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November 26, 2021, 11:24:42 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
The problem is something that has been around for years, and your intention to create the court seems important, but it's something that wouldn't work. The best tool we have is the forum itself, where users bring the problem and present their evidence, in the same way, sites have the same right and the community is the one who decides who is right or not. Anyone trying to steal will be penalized... in case a notable user will get a "flag", in case of a site it will be spotted forever in the biggest crypto forum (a very bad advertisement against it). What would a court be more efficient at than that?
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November 26, 2021, 11:36:24 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
Where does the funding come from? Who will be the enforcer? There are simply way too many legal and logistical overheads for this idea to work, imho. The best that we can do in this direction is really industry self-regulation, which is probably not necessarily the best thing.
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November 26, 2021, 11:43:21 PM |
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To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.
I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone. But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect.
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November 26, 2021, 11:50:50 PM |
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To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.
I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone. But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect. This is where that license first impressions do really happen but we know that this isn't on everything because anyone could really rigged up and scam out their players money which with due to this anonymous market then its really hard to trace it upon. It wont really be guaranteeing everything that's why we should really be careful on dealing with things. Stick into those reputable ones and you would really be saving up yourself into problems.
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November 26, 2021, 11:54:37 PM |
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To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.
I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone. But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect. For me there is still no online court that is only a community with what you mention, as far as I know in any case on the internet no one is tried by this online court it will be very difficult how to prove it. For me, if you believe in a forum that already has a good reputation, then it's better to follow the flow that other people are doing, including gambling, which has a lot of good reputation in this forum, do you not believe what the forum provides as a promotion?
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November 26, 2021, 11:57:11 PM |
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A blockchain recording backend data, could be formatted so that even site administrators could not alter the data.
Perhaps such is the future of the gambling industry. A provably fair system of backend DBMS which would allow disputes between casinos and players to be settled through dissemination of backend information, which no one can forge or alter.
To be reliable, such a system would probably need to be built using open source tools for the codebase to be open for independent code review. Closed proprietary systems would probably not be trustworthy for most.
There are other methods and formats which could be viable. Perhaps a 3rd party timestamped tool for players to record all of their pending bets.
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November 26, 2021, 11:58:42 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
Forget this mate. Why hope for that if, in the first place, crypto is anonymous. It's like saying, we should now adopt the centralized thing like what we are dealing with right now with most exchanges. That's part of the risk of doing gambling in crypto. We have to accept that.
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November 27, 2021, 01:42:14 AM |
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It would not be a gambling court, more a gambler's law firm mediator like game-protect. If there was such a court which would comply with global regulations, your claim might be denied if you are from a country where gambling is illegal. Gambling courts shouldn't just deal with casino company offenses. There are many casinos that have actually fallen victim to the exploitation of fraudulent players and lost hundreds of thousands of dollars unnoticed.
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November 27, 2021, 02:05:34 AM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
Forget this mate. Why hope for that if, in the first place, crypto is anonymous. It's like saying, we should now adopt the centralized thing like what we are dealing with right now with most exchanges. That's part of the risk of doing gambling in crypto. We have to accept that. Keep in mind that we are talking about casino here which is regulated by gambling regulatory board thru providing license to operate. Crypto is really anonymous as currency but it was use on a regulated service so it means that you are not anonymous anymore. But this can only happened if the casino that commit fraud has license to operate. For non-license Casino, Its up to the user on how they will handle the risk on still playing on it.
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November 27, 2021, 02:18:08 AM |
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There are only two reasons with it it's the part of the mistakes of the player because they didn't even read those permission, terms and rules of the platform mostly common is this they just come up to the platform because that saw it somewhere or someone offers them this by this the argument will not support. If the mistakes come from the gambling platform and there's no feedback or action will take it will now be the responsibility of the gambling platform that might remove their license. IMHO it's useless to scam other people than getting a good reputation for your players that might get your business up. And other one hrs crypto the obligation of the users must need to know if this is registered or not.
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
I'm pretty sure you could bring them up in the court itself, so there's no need to set up an online one though afaik it's limited to where the casino is located or the country it's registered at. That's why licensed casinos are preferred more since they ensure that the casino is actually registered somewhere and is legally doing business. Also OP I think you made a mistake, I think you meant censored? And the only reason really why it's left as such is because the user doesn't bring it up to court. He posts it instead in the sites forum and other sites that have gambling-related threads (like this one) and lets the people know, and it stops there. It isn't really censored per se, but it mostly has a limited impact.
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November 27, 2021, 02:26:11 AM |
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There are only two reasons with it it's the part of the mistakes of the player because they didn't even read those permission, terms and rules of the platform
What OP pointing out is that, even a player didn't violate any, the site will counter that the player violated one of the terms. I understand OP on that part as that was unprofessional and users don't have any choice to do. It eventually leads to OP that there should be an authority that will handle it. However, since crypto gambling was mostly preferred by others because of anonymity, it's somehow irrelevant to hope for an authority that will handle the case in a decentralized world. We are talking about casino here which is regulated by gambling regulatory board thru providing license to operate. Crypto is really anonymous as currency but it was use on a regulated service so it means that you are not anonymous anymore.
For now, there are still lots of regulated crypto gambling site that's not forcing their users to provide KYC. The majority is still anonymous. Even with that setup, there's still a question on how that main authority to be built. Let's say all crypto-gambling sites are now KYC mandated, in the event that users wants to report them for any fraudulent activities, does any government body can pressure those regulated gambling sites?
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November 27, 2021, 03:30:29 AM |
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To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.
I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone. But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect. Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face.
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November 27, 2021, 05:28:15 AM |
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To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.
I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone. But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect. Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face. Agree with you both. The moment we enter and consider playing at crypto gambling sites, we already accept that if ever there's something wrong about the site, we can't file a case against them or there's something we can rely on to file a complaint. It's better that we do our part to stay safe just by choosing a good-running gambling site that's already operating for a long and has already built a good reputation, not just here in the forum, but to other community discussions as well.
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November 27, 2021, 08:06:22 AM |
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Online gambling court for every country or universal court for all the country residents?
This is a concept which is not practical to implement and every country has their own laws to protect their citizens from scams so if anyone wants to go to the court then it should be their respective country.
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November 27, 2021, 08:37:36 AM |
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This will be a good idea for a gambling cout to exist it will reduce misunderstanding between gamblers and gambling in their differences. There are s lot of accusations in the past that have not been settled which need to be looked into.
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November 27, 2021, 08:51:41 AM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
Where does the funding come from? Who will be the enforcer? There are simply way too many legal and logistical overheads for this idea to work, imho. The best that we can do in this direction is really industry self-regulation, which is probably not necessarily the best thing. What you've asked is already given in the second page and here i will quote for you , And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?
Those valid question is indeed the most important of this initiative , i truly support the Idea as i have some friends that becomes a victim in the past and there are many more happening now , they have nowhere to go in filing cases .
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November 27, 2021, 09:23:25 AM |
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This will be a good idea for a gambling cout to exist it will reduce misunderstanding between gamblers and gambling in their differences. There are s lot of accusations in the past that have not been settled which need to be looked into.
A good idea but hard to implement. Expect that some personal information will be needed for filing a case. It also needs to be well-funded and I doubt it can monitor all gambling sites. Crypto doesn't have any central authority and you have to understand that. Like anyone is saying here, stick with the well-reputable site for us to minimize being in a big issue dealing with them.
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passwordnow
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November 27, 2021, 09:30:20 AM |
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~snip~
This is where that license first impressions do really happen but we know that this isn't on everything because anyone could really rigged up and scam out their players money which with due to this anonymous market then its really hard to trace it upon. It wont really be guaranteeing everything that's why we should really be careful on dealing with things. Stick into those reputable ones and you would really be saving up yourself into problems. It's the only solution if you want to be at a safer place when you gamble. You can avoid the newer ones because many of them are high risk. I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone. But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect.
For me there is still no online court that is only a community with what you mention, as far as I know in any case on the internet no one is tried by this online court it will be very difficult how to prove it. For me, if you believe in a forum that already has a good reputation, then it's better to follow the flow that other people are doing, including gambling, which has a lot of good reputation in this forum, do you not believe what the forum provides as a promotion? It's not formal if there's going to have an online court and what I've said is just going to be a community that will give us tips on which casinos we should avoid. That's like what we're having right now because if there's a court then there's a higher govern that will decide which is going to be banned, but they can do that? I doubt it. ~snip~
Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face. Yeah, too many crypto casinos now that are reputable and you don't have to be problematic about experiencing a problem. If there is, then that's going to be just minor problems.
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November 27, 2021, 10:31:17 AM |
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This will be a good idea for a gambling cout to exist it will reduce misunderstanding between gamblers and gambling in their differences. There are s lot of accusations in the past that have not been settled which need to be looked into.
A good idea but hard to implement. Expect that some personal information will be needed for filing a case. It also needs to be well-funded and I doubt it can monitor all gambling sites. Crypto doesn't have any central authority and you have to understand that. Like anyone is saying here, stick with the well-reputable site for us to minimize being in a big issue dealing with them. Yeah and its hard to get the personal information especially mostly all of online personalities hides their true identity especially those scammers so its hard to sue them so maybe before they implement this maybe they need to regulate first all the online casino since maybe from that they can easily trace the owner if they will execute their scam schemes online. Yeah and its always been advise that we should stick on reputable site since they are tested already.
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