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November 27, 2021, 10:44:19 AM |
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This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends
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November 27, 2021, 11:20:51 AM |
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A regulated body like this online gambling court should be governed from someone and as long as it is governed from someone it is prone to bribery.If this online gambling court is really implemented (which I highly doubt it will ever will) most likely it will do more bad rather than good to online gambling because of that being prone to bribery.Most likely online casinos even if they were scam they would pay the persons or some person running this gambling court and most probably the players would never get back what righteously is their property,i.e Bitcoin or cryptos and would most of the time lose their battle against the casino.
Let me make you an example from our world that we live in,tell me one son or daughter of a leader of a country that have been caught cheating and punished like they should.In some isolated cases they have just been put away from politics like the 200 mln EUROS case in Austria with a politician I don't remember the name now but he just quit from the party and no jail for him.The same happens with this online gambling court,probably one very good idea but impossible to implement as good as the intentions are.
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November 27, 2021, 12:46:04 PM |
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This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends
We only need a regulatory body that would promote fair judgment for both gambling sites and their users because, to be honest, there are also lots of accusations without proof. For now, we only need a trusted list of gambling sites so we'll know what to avoid and what to trust. A site with different reviews about different sites because most of us usually check a casino site's reputation.
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November 27, 2021, 12:50:47 PM |
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This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends
We only need a regulatory body that would promote fair judgment for both gambling sites and their users because, to be honest, there are also lots of accusations without proof. For now, we only need a trusted list of gambling sites so we'll know what to avoid and what to trust. A site with different reviews about different sites because most of us usually check a casino site's reputation. Don't trust review site that much better to ask the gamblers about their experience on a specific site and do your own research. A regulatory body that has the power to to regulate crypto gambling site, and every participant country should have a representative just like on many international cases, we have representatives. If there's no proof on accusation then of course it can't go to the international court, but I don't think small amount of money is worth it, better to file a case if its enough to compensate the regulatory body.
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November 27, 2021, 01:02:12 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
I remember there are forums to take care of such fraud in forex industry. Here in this forum as well people will try to provide you a resolution if a casino's representative is available here. In my opinion, open discussion based resolution will be appropriate as it will not be misused and there will be no cost to anyone. But, the catch here is, we need to play only on the crypto casinos which are concerning about their reputation on this forum. This is like playing on a licensed casino hence not a hard rule for following. Simply, choosing a reputed crypto casino that is having their official active topic here will address your concern as if you face any problem then you can open a topic with all details in scam accusation section where this community will investigate based on all the proof you provide to a resolution.
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November 27, 2021, 01:11:19 PM |
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I remember there are forums to take care of such fraud in forex industry. Here in this forum as well people will try to provide you a resolution if a casino's representative is available here. In my opinion, open discussion based resolution will be appropriate as it will not be misused and there will be no cost to anyone. But, the catch here is, we need to play only on the crypto casinos which are concerning about their reputation on this forum. This is like playing on a licensed casino hence not a hard rule for following.
Simply, choosing a reputed crypto casino that is having their official active topic here will address your concern as if you face any problem then you can open a topic with all details in scam accusation section where this community will investigate based on all the proof you provide to a resolution.
That's severely limited to casinos here though, and most of them are even crypto casinos, online casinos that use fiat aren't included on the list no? Plus it has no legality included. The idea is really nice tbh, but an online court is not something we'd exactly need since it needs a centralized organization around it. It pretty much says that ALL types of casinos should be licensed and registered to that organization so that they can keep track,, and when issues arise, they can then do the court stuff about it. Highly doubt it would be allowed, different countries have different laws about gambling after all.
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November 27, 2021, 01:13:38 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
although this is a good idea but it will be very difficult to form because gambling problems are related to the authorities in each country. but if we want an online gambling court that form, it must be truly fair, and regardless of which country the complainant is from.
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November 27, 2021, 02:02:58 PM |
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Online court?? How would that even operate, who are the people who will be in charge, lawyers? What would will be okay is to have a panel that controls and regulate gambling company that can be in charge of scam accusation. If any scam accusation by any gambling company is reported by this panel with a prove. Then this panel will have the right to give charge.
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November 27, 2021, 02:21:57 PM |
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Don't trust review site that much better to ask the gamblers about their experience on a specific site and do your own research. A regulatory body that has the power to to regulate crypto gambling site, and every participant country should have a representative just like on many international cases, we have representatives. If there's no proof on accusation then of course it can't go to the international court, but I don't think small amount of money is worth it, better to file a case if its enough to compensate the regulatory body.
It will be better if there is a organization who will have this in each country, as online gambling widened many scammers became interested to track it. Newbies and those who are not aware in crypto get easily victimized. If there will be a organization tha will focus on it the development and process of it can be much better for users and newbies. It’s normal now that gamblers use online transactions and crypto so it can be a time now to have one.
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November 27, 2021, 02:41:20 PM |
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If we build that one, it will probably take a long time before the court can settle the case, you don't know much about court proceedings don't you? Most court stuff don't finish really quick like in the movies, it takes a lot of paperwork to process one case now if it's an issue with online gambling then with a lot of complainants, we will definitely see things are going to be easily settled unlike what we currently have now in regards to resolving the issue.
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November 27, 2021, 03:17:42 PM |
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Great idea... with loads of flaws!
1. What law has jurisdiction over all casinos? 2. Who will pay the judges that would preside over these court cases? 3. How will these courts get access to casino data? (bet history / proof of fairness etc?) 4. Some casino operators are anonymous. (Example : Wetsuit - Freebitco.in) 5. What will they be charged with and which countries laws are they breaking?
So, answer me these questions and then we can start talking about the other options that might be more effective. (Review sites/Scam accusation threads on this forum/Consumer protection sites)
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November 27, 2021, 03:39:06 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
The concept is good but the problem will be the implementation, will all online casinos agree to be under this so-called accredited court, who are paying these judges of this online court, and what's the guaranty that this online accredited court will not be corrupted, what I mean is how are we going to audit the auditor and what kind of law will they apply, there are so many questions and every answer will be met by doubts. When it comes to playing online we have to do due diligence on the reputation of the online casino that we're playing and be quick to share if the casino is doing something wrong and let the community judge or render a decision if the casino is still worth playing.
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November 27, 2021, 04:08:10 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
If gambling is legal in your country and the gambling site that you are using is already registered then you have to understand for a fact that you can apply for a case online since most of the times the governmental bodies have online FIR and then you can also publish them and find your solutions if other people had the similar probelms as well. Now a days social media has also become a very powerful platform as well. Most of the companies are able to show their services through how well they support their customers through. I always prefer: Playing on already known site with good reputation Trying out new sites without negative trust who are involved in campaigns This generally helps and you can also go to their personal thread and see if there are any problems as well.
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November 27, 2021, 04:12:11 PM |
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This is more like calling for a regulated body who over see most of this online gambling platforms and its users because it's becoming alarming the rate at which complaints keep rolling up and most users who intentionally decide to tarnish the reputation of some gambling sites due to their own selfish reason. An online court will do a lot of amends
We only need a regulatory body that would promote fair judgment for both gambling sites and their users because, to be honest, there are also lots of accusations without proof. For now, we only need a trusted list of gambling sites so we'll know what to avoid and what to trust. A site with different reviews about different sites because most of us usually check a casino site's reputation. Things like this seem to be a little inconvenient because indeed every gambler will have different opinions about the sites being discussed because there are indeed some gamblers who will indeed be favored in several sites on the other hand there will be a loss. So, we will not be able to expect much about it. maybe the better side is that we do things ourselves and don't go directly to gambling but research it first
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November 27, 2021, 06:35:08 PM |
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In my country we've got Mobile courts. Similar to caravan, vehicles were arranged same as court. These mobile courts won't be dealing with major cases. Mostly this court is used to give punishment on driving violation and other penalties for simple mistakes like violation of signal and so on. Other than this we've got cybercrime section, whatever the case we give will never receive any further updates. So, the technology is flawed by man to ease his work and make the people suffer. Same as this, if gambling court is begun for operation, surely it'll go out of usage within specific time frame.
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November 27, 2021, 07:04:36 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
It is a bad idea, if the amount of money is big enough then the case could be judged in a court of law which is the right place to settle those kind of disputes between two sides that both believe they are right, however if the case is small then it is OK for each person to take a look at the case and make their own conclusions about what happened. This is what happens in this forum, with the difference that we have a set of individuals that have been selected among the community and which their judgment holds more weight, but at the end of the day each person can look at the evidence and agree or disagree with them.
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November 27, 2021, 08:01:14 PM |
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To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.
I agree the online gambling court is likely just going to be an online community that gives and shares decisions on which platform to be avoided by everyone. But if you're the gambler that wants to avoid every possible problem with the casino that you want to play. That's going to make you sure that you're on the right casino that has a reputation to protect. Somehow, I agree that playing in the crypto gambling site with reputations and always avoid playing in the unknown crypto gambling site or a new website because we do not know how well they handle their members. The good news is that we have many crypto gambling sites that have good reputations for minimizing the risks of getting a scam by them. We do not have to worry if somehow, we have a problem in that site because they have a good support system that always helps their members solve the case. The online gambling court is hard to implement on the internet as both sides are not meet face to face. Agree with you both. The moment we enter and consider playing at crypto gambling sites, we already accept that if ever there's something wrong about the site, we can't file a case against them or there's something we can rely on to file a complaint. It's better that we do our part to stay safe just by choosing a good-running gambling site that's already operating for a long and has already built a good reputation, not just here in the forum, but to other community discussions as well. The best to do is to always play at legit casinos, as you stated. However, to file a lawsuit against a gambling platform isn't impossible, especially if you have gathered enough proof against them. The only problem are the costs of filling this lawsuit from the beginning to the end of the case. I believe if there were a friendly lawyer who coincidentally lived in the country where the casino is located, it would make total sense to go ahead on this action. In the end the suitor could just share the indemnity paid by the casino with his lawyer, as previously agreed.
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November 27, 2021, 08:17:37 PM |
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It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?
I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.
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November 27, 2021, 08:21:57 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
That would be helpful but license providers should have a standard rule to follow so there will be a standard implementation of rules. An online court would be beneficial but it's not easy to realize since crypto itself is not yet fully regulated. For now, since we choose to gamble in crypto gambling sites, we have to deal with the risk, if we lose money because we get scammed, we should be ready to move on as recovering it is almost impossible especially if the site is gone.
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I have to say "Nice point Rengga Jati"! At the same time, I will have to quote one of my dear friends Efi" The Crypto gambling scene is a wild west! -snip Yeah, we cannot deny this fact, some bad reviews will warn us to review again the gambling platform, moreover if there are many similar bad reviews with strong evidence. I am sure that we will think several times to use that kind of gambling platform. Wouldn't it be better to avoid it than fall into it, right? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) And yes, gambling is wild enough. Once we cannot manage ourselves, we will fall into bad sides of gambling.' Once the platform cannot keep the users' trust, reputations, and solve the problems, they will fall into bigger problems with that kind of accusations. Building and developing a reputation is very difficult, destroying it is very easy.
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