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November 27, 2021, 09:27:35 PM |
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It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?
I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.
That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court.
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November 27, 2021, 09:42:25 PM |
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It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?
I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.
That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court. There is no much work needed here because everyone needs transparency and clean services once a system is put in place to check mate gambling sites, its operators and clients then a regulatory body who would ensure all things are properly put in place for sure things would just work out as supposes the rate at which complaints are going around gambling sites is becoming too alarming
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November 27, 2021, 09:45:33 PM |
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It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?
I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.
That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court. And besides who will give the salary of those people that will form this organization? This idea is great but in reality, hard to implement. One casino alone is hard to handle, what more of these existing online casinos including the fly-by-night casinos. So in the end, you are responsible of where you play. At least make a quick search about the casino, and read the published reviews. If you are not convinced, then try playing small on the site. Nowadays, there are so many options now where to play online.
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November 27, 2021, 10:39:20 PM |
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I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise. Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
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November 27, 2021, 10:44:34 PM |
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I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise. Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
We truly understand OP's intention. It will serve a good purpose only if things are all easy. But the said proposal is like turning the crypto-gambling into government-owned operations since it's now handling a legal case. We need the cooperation of the government for that to become possible. Next time, OP needs to be careful when choosing a good platform to avoid those bad and worst experiences in the future. Choose from truly reputable sites as low chance that these sites will be turned into a scam in exchange for the reputation they build for several years. It's hard to attain trust from most users. It's not a thing they can throw away easily.
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November 27, 2021, 11:27:15 PM |
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It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?
I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.
That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court. Yeah its true on which there would be lots of adjustments would really be needed on this one knowing that setting off a court specially online wouldnt really be that simple which simply means that it would really need to be on systematic way and also we do already have cybercrime division which i do see for it to be enough yet its not really necessary nor much required because everything could be included on the scope of our current courts so i dont see for another division particularly on online cases.
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November 27, 2021, 11:37:08 PM |
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So in the end, you are responsible of where you play.
+1 to this. While being responsible for the safety of our funds, be responsible also to only spend them on trustworthy sites. As a crypto-gambler, we should already know that we are playing anonymous here and once the site f uc*ed us up, it's the end now and there's nothing we can do about it. But honestly, in some cases, the site is right where they tagged their users as violating their Terms of Service. Since we don't know every side of the story, we can't comment if that site is really honest or just creating an issue for that involved user. In that particular situation, a site representative shall explain all the details of why it ends up banning its users to make it clear at both parties.
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November 28, 2021, 04:05:31 AM |
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I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise.
No he will not put fire in His own House , because if there is someone who wanted their company to get burned it is not Him. that's why i see no reason for Him to ask this court because surely His company will be the first to suffer. Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out.
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November 28, 2021, 05:05:27 AM |
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Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out. If all people were honest and good, then there would be no need for the police and the courts. Unfortunately, in the case of online casinos, I do not see the possibility of an online court in the near future. I think that the solution will be done in a classic way, through legal regulations in the places where the casino is registered and eliminating those that will not comply.
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November 28, 2021, 08:30:11 AM |
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Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out. If all people were honest and good, then there would be no need for the police and the courts. Unfortunately, in the case of online casinos, I do not see the possibility of an online court in the near future. I think that the solution will be done in a classic way, through legal regulations in the places where the casino is registered and eliminating those that will not comply. Maybe they can implement the fiat online gambling with the help from the local regulations but I am not sure if they can do that for the online crypto gambling that does not require KYC, which all people are playing gambling anonymously. That will not be easy knowing who is behind on that account in the casino and the casino owner will not come out to the public. So online casino courts will not be easy to implement soon because that will cross the border between two country regulations.
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November 28, 2021, 09:02:11 AM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
I believe you are in the right community when it comes to concerns about fraud gambling websites. You wouldn't want to pay thousand of dollars to pay for an online court to investigate your case and that could potentially become one-sided. This forum has been very effective for resolving cases of scams or fraud. If the gambling website has a bad reputation in this community, most probably it won't come out as most recommended gambling site for everyone.
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November 28, 2021, 09:40:50 AM |
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You wouldn't want to pay thousand of dollars to pay for an online court to investigate your case and that could potentially become one-sided.
Online court or physical court, only if that casino in question is operational and licensed in your country then you can drag them to legal procedure. When they are not legally binding to your country then your laws may not restrict or punish them in any means. Similarly, in this community also, if a casino decided not to maintain their reputation here then we cannot do anything about their past scams and for future we can suggest this community to avoid them completely. This forum has been very effective for resolving cases of scams or fraud. If the gambling website has a bad reputation in this community, most probably it won't come out as most recommended gambling site for everyone.
I agree this forum must be one of the effective community to provide justice for scam accusation but for a fiat based casino, this forum got nothing to do except marking that casino as a scammy one.
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November 28, 2021, 11:02:28 AM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
A court is a legal mechanism set up that can enforce laws within a certain jurisdiction. As there are over 250 countries around the world with different laws, what you are suggesting is almost impossible to govern and agreement will never be reached in the way that you want. It might be illegal to play the lottery in one country, but is completely acceptable in many others, if a player from a country where it was illegal felt someone was wrong with the lottery then how would they dispute it? They weren't even meant to be playing in the first place. There are so many legal mismatches and complications that it is completely unrealistic, besides that it would in most cases be a complete waste of money - the figures in dispute are often at such a low amount it would not be worth the resources to pursue a case. Any people who are disputing large amounts are able to do it between countries, it just costs them a lot of money to do so and is also probably not worth it.
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November 28, 2021, 12:35:39 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
I believe you are in the right community when it comes to concerns about fraud gambling websites. You wouldn't want to pay thousand of dollars to pay for an online court to investigate your case and that could potentially become one-sided. This forum has been very effective for resolving cases of scams or fraud. If the gambling website has a bad reputation in this community, most probably it won't come out as most recommended gambling site for everyone. In most of the cases it is the user that raises the accusation against the gambling site and most of the times it is the user who is at fault. I have seen cases where the gambling site was proven guilty but it just gets added to the scam list of sites. While it does help in preventing more users getting scammed but that particular user doesn't recover from his losses. I haven't seen any user getting their funds back in such cases where the forum has concluded scam accusation cases.
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November 28, 2021, 01:48:12 PM |
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C. I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
I believe you are in the right community when it comes to concerns about fraud gambling websites. You wouldn't want to pay thousand of dollars to pay for an online court to investigate your case and that could potentially become one-sided. This forum has been very effective for resolving cases of scams or fraud. If the gambling website has a bad reputation in this community, most probably it won't come out as most recommended gambling site for everyone. In most of the cases it is the user that raises the accusation against the gambling site and most of the times it is the user who is at fault. I have seen cases where the gambling site was proven guilty but it just gets added to the scam list of sites. While it does help in preventing more users getting scammed but that particular user doesn't recover from his losses. I haven't seen any user getting their funds back in such cases where the forum has concluded scam accusation cases. I just wish most times that a closer look at some accusations made by the complaints be looked into closely before tagging a site a scam gambling sites because as @pawanjain stated gamblers sometimes are at fault and want to pour out their frustration on the gambling site. But the fear now is most of this sites operate without license and gamblers find their side of the story unrealistic
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November 28, 2021, 03:47:45 PM |
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It may be that simple to think but it requires a lot of works and people to totally make it work especially in the internet. A cybercrime may contribute to what should the court would do but this will need a lot of work. Online gambling is everywhere and who's gonna handle each complaints?
I'm sure there are thousands of complaints for a certain online gambling sites but I think it's no different from creating a ticket to ask the support of a certain casino. I highly doubt someone would just make it happen or just let it go and slide since it's a very complicated situation.
That' is what I am thinking too it won't be easy for something like this to take place. I think no need for a gambling court, some other things can be think of to do than court. Having an designated international court to handle all online gambling complaints is tremendously difficult due to the compliance of these countries to such regulation. For example, the International Court of Justice (ICJ, in short) was established to handle complaints in countries who are affected of increasingly high crime rates. Unfortunately, even with the existence of this court, there are still countries who do not recognize their judgement as binding to their countries. Another example would be the United Nations. Even if some countries do an act which is prohibited by the UN according to its charter, the only regulation that the latter can do is the limiting of their trades (which is what happened in North Korea). But other than that, they cannot totally compel a country to follow their laws.
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November 28, 2021, 03:54:36 PM |
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Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out. If all people were honest and good, then there would be no need for the police and the courts. Unfortunately, in the case of online casinos, I do not see the possibility of an online court in the near future. I think that the solution will be done in a classic way, through legal regulations in the places where the casino is registered and eliminating those that will not comply. Maybe they can implement the fiat online gambling with the help from the local regulations but I am not sure if they can do that for the online crypto gambling that does not require KYC, which all people are playing gambling anonymously. That will not be easy knowing who is behind on that account in the casino and the casino owner will not come out to the public. So online casino courts will not be easy to implement soon because that will cross the border between two country regulations. At the moment it is possible to play in crypto casinos anonymously as cryptocurrencies have not yet been recognized as money. When this happens, they will all have to be regulated, and then they will automatically fall under the laws of the country where they are registered. In my opinion, this is what will happen (sooner or later).
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November 28, 2021, 05:59:53 PM |
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Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
If all casino are having Honest service because if does then this kind of thread need nothing to pop out. If all people were honest and good, then there would be no need for the police and the courts. Unfortunately, in the case of online casinos, I do not see the possibility of an online court in the near future. I think that the solution will be done in a classic way, through legal regulations in the places where the casino is registered and eliminating those that will not comply. Maybe they can implement the fiat online gambling with the help from the local regulations but I am not sure if they can do that for the online crypto gambling that does not require KYC, which all people are playing gambling anonymously. That will not be easy knowing who is behind on that account in the casino and the casino owner will not come out to the public. So online casino courts will not be easy to implement soon because that will cross the border between two country regulations. At the moment it is possible to play in crypto casinos anonymously as cryptocurrencies have not yet been recognized as money. When this happens, they will all have to be regulated, and then they will automatically fall under the laws of the country where they are registered. In my opinion, this is what will happen (sooner or later). Regulation will somewhat happen into those particular platforms but having as a whole then i dont see for it to be that to be applied in upcoming future. This anonymous market would really be having that hard thing on tracing up everything which wouldnt really be that relevant into this manner. But having considerations for each platform to be regulated and known before they could make out some service then its good but it cant be avoided that there would be some out of the radar.
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November 28, 2021, 06:37:28 PM |
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I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise.
No he will not put fire in His own House , because if there is someone who wanted their company to get burned it is not Him. that's why i see no reason for Him to ask this court because surely His company will be the first to suffer. I know he won't dare to put fire on his own house but I was talking about him trying to find solutions to the casino accusation. I don't know if it's just me but I have a reason to believe you create this thread because of some accusation raised about the casino you advertise. Meanwhile, I don't think there's a need for an online gambling court if casinos offer honest services, and the last time I checked Askgambler did something like this but I think for the casino that's listed on their platform.
We truly understand OP's intention. It will serve a good purpose only if things are all easy. But the said proposal is like turning the crypto-gambling into government-owned operations since it's now handling a legal case. We need the cooperation of the government for that to become possible. Next time, OP needs to be careful when choosing a good platform to avoid those bad and worst experiences in the future. Choose from truly reputable sites as low chance that these sites will be turned into a scam in exchange for the reputation they build for several years. It's hard to attain trust from most users. It's not a thing they can throw away easily. Yes, the OP intention was for a good purpose but when the decentralization of cryptocurrency comes to play it's not acceptable to turn crypto gambling into a government owned operation that will serve as an online gambling court. The gambler should do sufficient research about a gambling site before using it.
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November 28, 2021, 08:09:04 PM |
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the OP intention was for a good purpose but when the decentralization of cryptocurrency comes to play it's not acceptable to turn crypto gambling into a government owned operation that will serve as an online gambling court. The gambler should do sufficient research about a gambling site before using it.
I do not think what you are using for your gambling is a concern here. If a casino is licensed and binding to a law of governments then they are answerable regardless of your payment method: it could be fiat or crypto or anything; still casino must clear their stand by proving their no involvement of any malfunctioning or any of breaching of mutually agreed terms and conditions. I agree that we must go for only reputed gambling sites to play to avoid all kind of fraudulent activities. But, if you notice only gamblers are trying to scam online casinos compared to cases of scammy houses (I may be wrong but usually online casinos are more prone to be misused by its gamblers itself).
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