betflip.io does not pay me even my deposit amount

[yayayo]

@OP, How do you find these scammy casino such as 4444 and bet flip out of many existing trusted casino out there that offering same welcome bonus reward. At first, I thought you are just missing there wagering requirements that's why you can't withdraw like on Fortunejack that requires a x2 wager on deposit before you withdraw but as I search deeper about betflip, I saw some serious allegations that's still unanswered.

Consider this issue as charge to experience and never trust again some copy cat casino that offering crazy bonus.

Indeed, OP have made some serious mistake and jumped onto the pit of risks, when he chose to dealt with a casino that has pending accusations that still weren’t solved or handled by the management. But let us give OP the benefit of the doubt, maybe his just really new to all of this. It is just unfortunate that he has to go through such to learn a lesson. At the end of the day, we get to chose what casino we are going to deal with, considering the issues, allegations and compliments, thus we can chose the risk we will take.

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[brassnuts]

Many people seem to be acting as if 100% of the population are experts in crypto betting sites and how to know which ones are reputable. They are not.

When big affiliates market betflip on their sites, which is absolutely the case, just go look, then many many people will trust the information given by the affiliates. It's very easy to understand why people put money on these sites.

[wxa7115]

I made a deposit - also a small one - to test the site but I lost it already. After reading this, I will not test it anymore.

Yes, you are right. My friend had also faced the same experience and is very much disappointed with this. betflip.io is a scam website on which you can face just loss and nothing else. I would suggest everyone not make any deposit on this site and report it in the scam accusation section. So it may help many other users to avoid this scam website.

Well I don't understand why there are some people who did not want to avoid a scam casino, once it has previous issues of scam I will never use that online casino. Just like the casino that you are promoting right now, a known gambling casino that scams their user and I don't want to let it happen to myself, I had better stay away from that casino rather pushing myself to use them whereas there are too many gambling casinos that can be used that has a good reputation. It is shame for them, just for a buck.

It also makes me wonder that people do not check who they send money to. I think the reason may be the adverts impulse and the promise of a big bonus. After the money is sent, they wake up, but it's too late. It may also be because it is hard to find a casino on the market today that doesn't have any accusations.

That is probably one of the reasons, after all a legitimate casino that is planning on giving a bonus needs to fulfill what they promise and as such there are limits to what they can offer to their clients, since they are a business and they need to remain profitable.

But a casino that is being operated by scammers can make all kind of promises about the kind of bonuses they will give to their clients, and it does not matter to them how big those bonuses are as they have no intention at all to give that money away anyway.

[mak013]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

[pieppiep]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

I doubt that they are newbies because, from their stories, we see many of them deposit more than $50-$100. If they are really newbies, they will not risk too big money for gambling, especially since gambling is something new for them. They need to figure out how to play gambling and learn how to control themselves. Maybe they are old crypto users who have much experience but they are curious about the gambling site so they deposit that big money but boom, they lose their money.

[Taskford]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

I doubt that they are newbies because, from their stories, we see many of them deposit more than $50-$100. If they are really newbies, they will not risk too big money for gambling, especially since gambling is something new for them. They need to figure out how to play gambling and learn how to control themselves. Maybe they are old crypto users who have much experience but they are curious about the gambling site so they deposit that big money but boom, they lose their money.

Theirs two sides here this is either those newbies are paid for destroying some new casino which start to rise up to eliminate their competition or they are not totally a forum member then just locate this forum via google search.  Ut anyways whatever it is unless newbies who created a thread have a valid proof regarding on their claims then that's good since it will give us a warning on that casino they are pointing on.

[mak013]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

I doubt that they are newbies because, from their stories, we see many of them deposit more than $50-$100. If they are really newbies, they will not risk too big money for gambling, especially since gambling is something new for them. They need to figure out how to play gambling and learn how to control themselves. Maybe they are old crypto users who have much experience but they are curious about the gambling site so they deposit that big money but boom, they lose their money.

But if they are not newbies, why they don`t do any research? And, if they know about this board - why most of them have newbie rating? Ok, may be they are just reading without registration, but why they don`t read other threads?
It is possible if this is a part of strategy - getting welcome and rating bonuses but even in such way - it is not a problem to see fast-made scam.

[jossiel]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

That's what they do most of the time.

They'll seek counsel to the forum members when something bad has already happened. And when they do, it's already too late for them to recover the amount because there's no way to get it anymore.

[keyscore44]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

That's what they do most of the time.

They'll seek counsel to the forum members when something bad has already happened. And when they do, it's already too late for them to recover the amount because there's no way to get it anymore.

It is possible that they think that maybe someone will hear their cries for help and the casino will change mind in their case.
Or maybe they just want to complain in public and in that way reduce their frustration a bit.
It is also possible that they really have the intent to warn others about the dishonesty of the casino.
Or they themselves are scammers and have been caught doing it and write accusations in anger.

[nigthcrowd]

I wanted to try out these guys but sent by mistake a substantial deposit (10mbtc instead of 1 mbtc) . Waited for 3 weeks to expire the bonus which had ridiculous rollover requirements. Then I was asked to rollover my deposit amount 1 time with odds of 2 or more which I completed. After that I placed a withdrawal request on the same amount as the deposit. They keep rejecting it. On live chat I told them that I did not want any winnings (5 mbtc), just my deposit amount. First they tell me to place the withdrawal again but then reject it 5 minutes later... Please do not make my mistake to try them out...

Never believe the betflip, which turns out to be a lot of complaints that they cheat easily their loyal customers. If you like to make deposits with crypto you can try on m88 and bk8, the site is guaranteed

[pieppiep]

Theirs two sides here this is either those newbies are paid for destroying some new casino which start to rise up to eliminate their competition or they are not totally a forum member then just locate this forum via google search.  Ut anyways whatever it is unless newbies who created a thread have a valid proof regarding on their claims then that's good since it will give us a warning on that casino they are pointing on.

We already see that destroying new casinos is something that always happens among the competitions and sometimes, they will use all the ways to take down the other casino reputations. I think we can say anything about what happened to them, but we do not know the real story and who is lies to us. Even though we do not know if they have valid proof regarding their story, we can only give suggestions to them.

But if they are not newbies, why they don`t do any research? And, if they know about this board - why most of them have newbie rating? Ok, may be they are just reading without registration, but why they don`t read other threads?
It is possible if this is a part of strategy - getting welcome and rating bonuses but even in such way - it is not a problem to see fast-made scam.

That is why I doubt they are newbies because we already warn them from this forum. Even if they are silent readers who do not reply or discuss many things here, they can still read many topics about cheating, scamming, or hacking on this forum. And from that topic, they should know why they must not use too big money for gambling, even in the casino with great reputations. No guarantee that the casino can process its withdrawal.

[nakamura12]

Funny how you think $50-$100 is really big money. Different areas of the world have different standards of living and income levels. While $50 might be big money for you, it might be merely pocket change for others. For example, you may not be aware that some people pay more than $5 for just a cup of coffee at Starbucks. 

That's because that amount of money converted to fiat is not a small amount in other country so that is why that person said $50 - $100 is a big amount. In my country, having that $100 could save my family to buy food, gasoline and other important things we need to survive since the government didn't provide a good relief yet especially at a time like this (not because of covid but of rai). In gambling, $100 is not a small amount but not also a big amount if you ask me if I were that person.

[naira]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

I doubt that they are newbies because, from their stories, we see many of them deposit more than $50-$100. If they are really newbies, they will not risk too big money for gambling, especially since gambling is something new for them. They need to figure out how to play gambling and learn how to control themselves. Maybe they are old crypto users who have much experience but they are curious about the gambling site so they deposit that big money but boom, they lose their money.

But if they are not newbies, why they don`t do any research? And, if they know about this board - why most of them have newbie rating? Ok, may be they are just reading without registration, but why they don`t read other threads?
It is possible if this is a part of strategy - getting welcome and rating bonuses but even in such way - it is not a problem to see fast-made scam.

Agree, it's likely not that they don't read, but rather to take advantage of the bonuses that have been provided and walk away with all those bonuses. Then come again as if not paying attention to the terms and conditions that apply. As a beginner, it might sound silly to shoot more than $50-$100 without thinking. Usually, most beginners will be more careful because they don't know how to start well.

[goaldigger]

Funny how you think $50-$100 is really big money. Different areas of the world have different standards of living and income levels. While $50 might be big money for you, it might be merely pocket change for others. For example, you may not be aware that some people pay more than $5 for just a cup of coffee at Starbucks.  

That's because that amount of money converted to fiat is not a small amount in other country so that is why that person said $50 - $100 is a big amount. In my country, having that $100 could save my family to buy food, gasoline and other important things we need to survive since the government didn't provide a good relief yet especially at a time like this (not because of covid but of rai). In gambling, $100 is not a small amount but not also a big amount if you ask me if I were that person.

The value is not the point here, the site scam many people so technically if you add it up that’s a huge money already and that’s alarming. I saw some scam accusation with this site better to avoid this at all cost and don’t try to deposit again. I hope they can solve this problem but don’t expect that much OP especially if they are a real scam site. Anyway, do you have proof for this accusation?

[FatFork]

Anyway, do you have proof for this accusation?

I don't know who you are addressing here. The OP has not responded to this topic since it was created. Furthermore, if you are addressing him, you should quote his post or at least mention him in your post.

[keyscore44]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

I doubt that they are newbies because, from their stories, we see many of them deposit more than $50-$100. If they are really newbies, they will not risk too big money for gambling, especially since gambling is something new for them. They need to figure out how to play gambling and learn how to control themselves. Maybe they are old crypto users who have much experience but they are curious about the gambling site so they deposit that big money but boom, they lose their money.

But if they are not newbies, why they don`t do any research? And, if they know about this board - why most of them have newbie rating? Ok, may be they are just reading without registration, but why they don`t read other threads?
It is possible if this is a part of strategy - getting welcome and rating bonuses but even in such way - it is not a problem to see fast-made scam.

Agree, it's likely not that they don't read, but rather to take advantage of the bonuses that have been provided and walk away with all those bonuses. Then come again as if not paying attention to the terms and conditions that apply. As a beginner, it might sound silly to shoot more than $50-$100 without thinking. Usually, most beginners will be more careful because they don't know how to start well.

Casinos say that gambling should be just fun and a way to have a good time. The truth is, most of the gambling is based on a desire to make money easily and quickly, and oscourse greed. It is clear to me that many people, even if they are aware of the risks, will still play in casinos with a bad reputation just because they have big bonuses.

[traderethereum]

Casinos say that gambling should be just fun and a way to have a good time. The truth is, most of the gambling is based on a desire to make money easily and quickly, and oscourse greed. It is clear to me that many people, even if they are aware of the risks, will still play in casinos with a bad reputation just because they have big bonuses.

Suppose they realize the risk but still play in the casino, whether it is a bad reputation casino or a good reputation casino. In that case, they should prepare for losing money because the lost money will always be there.
The risk will become bigger if they have any intention to make money easily and quickly because that can lead them to use more money after they lose all of the money.
Once they forget what reason they are gambling, they will not take too long to see they will lose the next money they deposit.
It is our responsibility to manage the money we use to gamble and hopefully, we can remember that gambling is part of the fun.

[mak013]

But if they are not newbies, why they don`t do any research? And, if they know about this board - why most of them have newbie rating? Ok, may be they are just reading without registration, but why they don`t read other threads?
It is possible if this is a part of strategy - getting welcome and rating bonuses but even in such way - it is not a problem to see fast-made scam.

That is why I doubt they are newbies because we already warn them from this forum. Even if they are silent readers who do not reply or discuss many things here, they can still read many topics about cheating, scamming, or hacking on this forum. And from that topic, they should know why they must not use too big money for gambling, even in the casino with great reputations. No guarantee that the casino can process its withdrawal.

That`s what i`m talking about. Newbies don`t read comments in the threads? Ok, it is possible, but we decided that aren`t newbies. And if they aren`t newbies, so why they are cheated so much times? If they are so lazy to make any research, why they spend time telling how they lost their money? This is really not a problem to understand fast-made scam website, even without reading this forum. It is impossible to be so silly over and over again.

[Kakmakr]

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

That's what they do most of the time.

They'll seek counsel to the forum members when something bad has already happened. And when they do, it's already too late for them to recover the amount because there's no way to get it anymore.

Do you want 1000s of newbies to flood the forum with questions about every casino that are out there? Let them come to the forum with their complaints, because the more complaints and scam accusations they post.... the better for the next newbie that wants to try out these scam casinos. 

Just make sure when you post under the scam accusation section that you put something like this in the title ==> Betflip.io <insert casino name> is a scam. (So when newbies Google the name + scam .... they might hit that thread) 

[Fortify]

I wanted to try out these guys but sent by mistake a substantial deposit (10mbtc instead of 1 mbtc) . Waited for 3 weeks to expire the bonus which had ridiculous rollover requirements. Then I was asked to rollover my deposit amount 1 time with odds of 2 or more which I completed. After that I placed a withdrawal request on the same amount as the deposit. They keep rejecting it. On live chat I told them that I did not want any winnings (5 mbtc), just my deposit amount. First they tell me to place the withdrawal again but then reject it 5 minutes later... Please do not make my mistake to try them out...

There are so many resources out there that can be used to find out if sites are a scam, that there's little excuse except greed for falling for them these days and you might just have to take this as a lesson for the future. I am wondering whether it really was an accident, or whether you were trying to take maximum advantage of any special bonus offer that they use to entice new victims. Sorry to hear about your loss, but you really need to be more careful and exact with the amount you are depositing, especially when such large sums of money are involved - it's just sad that these fake casinos can lure so many people in for such a long time, it'd be nice if the domain registrar seized their domain for fraud but it might require a court order.