betflip.io does not pay me even my deposit amount

[altini63]

I wanted to try out these guys but sent by mistake a substantial deposit (10mbtc instead of 1 mbtc) . Waited for 3 weeks to expire the bonus which had ridiculous rollover requirements. Then I was asked to rollover my deposit amount 1 time with odds of 2 or more which I completed. After that I placed a withdrawal request on the same amount as the deposit. They keep rejecting it. On live chat I told them that I did not want any winnings (5 mbtc), just my deposit amount. First they tell me to place the withdrawal again but then reject it 5 minutes later... Please do not make my mistake to try them out...

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[bislom]

I made a deposit - also a small one - to test the site but I lost it already. After reading this, I will not test it anymore.

[brassnuts]

Betflip is a scam.

They seem to have either ripped the betcoin api, or betcoin allow them to use their software. Everything is identical between the two sites, except Betcoin pay, Betflip do not, ever.

Unfortunately your money is lost.

EDIT: Upon inspection, Betflip seem to have changed their software entirely and are no longer a Betcoin clone. Still, they are only there to receive deposits. I have never known anyone to receive a withdrawal from them.

[YOSHIE]

At first glance I see that there are at least two accusations against the betting site betflip.io, as below:

• Topic: BETFLIP.io SCAM ALERT
• Topic: BETFLIP BONUS SCAM

Many cases of fraud by gambling sites lately, but never resolved, the OP can't do much in your current case, exceptions: try to contact them, communicate well with them your complaint, hopefully they have a solution for you.

In the future avoid gambling sites that have a series of allegations of fraud, play on responsible gambling sites.

[FatFork]

OP, if you have enough evidence to believe this is a scam, you can open a proper scam accusation on this board. Betflip.io doesn't have an official representative here or a dedicated ANN topic, therefore I doubt you will get any response regarding your case, but at least this way you will be warning other forum members and new visitors not to make the same mistake as you.

[LEVSKI7]

Betflip is a scam.

They seem to have either ripped the betcoin api, or betcoin allow them to use their software. Everything is identical between the two sites, except Betcoin pay, Betflip do not, ever.

Unfortunately your money is lost.

EDIT: Upon inspection, Betflip seem to have changed their software entirely and are no longer a Betcoin clone. Still, they are only there to receive deposits. I have never known anyone to receive a withdrawal from them.

now did you understand that it is scam. on many forums there is information that this site is scam.4444 did they return your deposit

[Fesatmas]

OP what FatFork said is correct, you might be able to thread fraud accusations with valid proof. But the problem is that so far there is no official representative from them on this forum. Even if you make an allegation it's still very minimal to be resolved and there's nothing to bridge you to the casino except keep pushing the support, multiply in email or in the chat. And the existence of similar accusations has so far not found a way out.

[brassnuts]

4444 did they return your deposit

I received nothing at all from 4444. They never communicated with me once, and they have also closed both of their topics in this forum. They are, or were, just a pure scam site.

The biggest issue that remains is how many people, including long time posters, entered the 4444 thread defending them. Along with that the fact that the moderators allowed 4444 to close their older thread, filled with allegations, and let them open a new self moderated thread albeit a thread which lasted only a few hours before they jumped ship.

It is important that the moderators here put player safety first, and when a thread is filled with negative reviews, and literally not one single positive confirmation of a withdrawal, more needs to be done to stop these instances.

[wxa7115]

At first glance I see that there are at least two accusations against the betting site betflip.io, as below:

• Topic: BETFLIP.io SCAM ALERT
• Topic: BETFLIP BONUS SCAM

Many cases of fraud by gambling sites lately, but never resolved, the OP can't do much in your current case, exceptions: try to contact them, communicate well with them your complaint, hopefully they have a solution for you.

In the future avoid gambling sites that have a series of allegations of fraud, play on responsible gambling sites.

I wonder where altini63 found that casino, I mean it seems they do not have an ann thread here or anything, do they found it in social media or just surfing the web?

I say this because I have always thought that if you know of the existence of bitcointalk then whenever you want to try a new casino it is important to see if they have a thread here and what is their reputation among the community, and if they have several scam accusations against them then it is better to avoid them, this way you will not only save yourself some money but a lot of headache as well as you do not have to deal with scammers.  

[FatFork]

I received nothing at all from 4444. They never communicated with me once, and they have also closed both of their topics in this forum. They are, or were, just a pure scam site.

The biggest issue that remains is how many people, including long time posters, entered the 4444 thread defending them. Along with that the fact that the moderators allowed 4444 to close their older thread, filled with allegations, and let them open a new self moderated thread albeit a thread which lasted only a few hours before they jumped ship.

It is important that the moderators here put player safety first, and when a thread is filled with negative reviews, and literally not one single positive confirmation of a withdrawal, more needs to be done to stop these instances.

Actualy, scams are not moderated on this forum. What you should do, if you haven't already, is gather all the evidence and open a scam accusation against them. You can't fight them in their self-moderated thread, so you need to create your own, where you can express your point of view without fear of them deleting your post.

[keyscore44]

I received nothing at all from 4444. They never communicated with me once, and they have also closed both of their topics in this forum. They are, or were, just a pure scam site.

The biggest issue that remains is how many people, including long time posters, entered the 4444 thread defending them. Along with that the fact that the moderators allowed 4444 to close their older thread, filled with allegations, and let them open a new self moderated thread albeit a thread which lasted only a few hours before they jumped ship.

It is important that the moderators here put player safety first, and when a thread is filled with negative reviews, and literally not one single positive confirmation of a withdrawal, more needs to be done to stop these instances.

Actualy, scams are not moderated on this forum. What you should do, if you haven't already, is gather all the evidence and open a scam accusation against them. You can't fight them in their self-moderated thread, so you need to create your own, where you can express your point of view without fear of them deleting your post.

His case is still under investigation as he had a lot of bets.

This is the 4444sport owner's reply from yesterday:

@brassnuts
We already answered you in previous posts. You have placed nearly 300 bets, and it take some time to verify these bets and the validity of it.

Sorry for the off topic, but it looks like the only job of this account and similar on this forum is to troll and spam.

[DoublerHunter]

I wanted to try out these guys but sent by mistake a substantial deposit (10mbtc instead of 1 mbtc) . Waited for 3 weeks to expire the bonus which had ridiculous rollover requirements. Then I was asked to rollover my deposit amount 1 time with odds of 2 or more which I completed. After that I placed a withdrawal request on the same amount as the deposit. They keep rejecting it. On live chat I told them that I did not want any winnings (5 mbtc), just my deposit amount. First they tell me to place the withdrawal again but then reject it 5 minutes later... Please do not make my mistake to try them out...

^ Just straightforward on this case not on others.
In my case, rollover is really required in a gambling casino but I don't know if there is a minimum requirement and how much. You should read first the TOS before making such a decision, ridiculous rollover requirements will probably we can think that the casino abuse the rollover requirements ruler. If this is on their TOS, you have nothing to do, because once you used them it means you agreed with the TOS. Just try to rollover and achieve the requirements, who knows there are still left in your fund.

[coin-investor]

I wonder where altini63 found that casino, I mean it seems they do not have an ann thread here or anything, do they found it in social media or just surfing the web?

I say this because I have always thought that if you know of the existence of bitcointalk then whenever you want to try a new casino it is important to see if they have a thread here and what is their reputation among the community, and if they have several scam accusations against them then it is better to avoid them, this way you will not only save yourself some money but a lot of headache as well as you do not have to deal with scammers.  

Most probably in other platforms, casinos are advertising on platforms like a-ads, if they know the existence of Bitcontalk I don't think they are going to play on casinos with accusations here, casinos with bad reputations here are advertising heavily on Cryptocurrency related sites or casino review sites, if you're an online gambler and you are not doing research you're in trouble.

[FatFork]

His case is still under investigation as he had a lot of bets.

This is the 4444sport owner's reply from yesterday:

@brassnuts
We already answered you in previous posts. You have placed nearly 300 bets, and it take some time to verify these bets and the validity of it.

Sorry for the off topic, but it looks like the only job of this account and similar on this forum is to troll and spam.

Censorship in a public forum is never a good idea, so it would probably be better if they answered his question instead of deleting his posts. Sounds a little shady to me but what do I know?

[24Kt]

OP, if you have enough evidence to believe this is a scam, you can open a proper scam accusation on this board. Betflip.io doesn't have an official representative here or a dedicated ANN topic, therefore I doubt you will get any response regarding your case, but at least this way you will be warning other forum members and new visitors not to make the same mistake as you.

That's the good thing to do here. If it is under scam accusations board, people will be alerted about this site. But checking the trustpilot feedback, it is also bad - https://www.trustpilot.com/review/betflip.io. So it already signifies something really not good for this site. Next time, before the OP play on a new casino, better check the reviews you can find online or better yet, just look for the casinos you can fin in this forum and more than likely, you will find a better and reputable one. Check their trust summary for existing allegations.

[ultrloa]

OP, if you have enough evidence to believe this is a scam, you can open a proper scam accusation on this board. Betflip.io doesn't have an official representative here or a dedicated ANN topic, therefore I doubt you will get any response regarding your case, but at least this way you will be warning other forum members and new visitors not to make the same mistake as you.

That's the good thing to do here. If it is under scam accusations board, people will be alerted about this site. But checking the trustpilot feedback, it is also bad - https://www.trustpilot.com/review/betflip.io. So it already signifies something really not good for this site. Next time, before the OP play on a new casino, better check the reviews you can find online or better yet, just look for the casinos you can fin in this forum and more than likely, you will find a better and reputable one. Check their trust summary for existing allegations.

Well this will be better thing to do since posting it on gambling board will only create little noise since this could be over shadowed by many casino ann threads so this accusation will not be notice easily and also its good for OP to share some proof so that this could add the case against them so that people will not trust to deposit any amount on that casino again..

@OP you should move this thread to scam accusation section.

[aioc]

@OP you should move this thread to scam accusation section.

He really should move this to the right board, of course, he needs to upload all his proofs to strengthen his cause, this is for those who want to check the reputation of betflip.io, I checked the site and they offer a very high 111% bonus, it's very tempting and a red flag for me, they don't have a thread here obviously to avoid getting tagged.

[rodskee]

I wanted to try out these guys but sent by mistake a substantial deposit (10mbtc instead of 1 mbtc) . Waited for 3 weeks to expire the bonus which had ridiculous rollover requirements. Then I was asked to rollover my deposit amount 1 time with odds of 2 or more which I completed. After that I placed a withdrawal request on the same amount as the deposit. They keep rejecting it. On live chat I told them that I did not want any winnings (5 mbtc), just my deposit amount. First they tell me to place the withdrawal again but then reject it 5 minutes later... Please do not make my mistake to try them out...

You have deposited and Played in one of the worst gambling site in crypto industry , this is the reason why you are having this issues now.

Like what yoshie's shared above, this site has multiple Scam case in this forum alone so what more in outside Bitcointalk?

Just Move on as you cannot claim back your Money and that means you have nothing now but losses .

[BitcoinAccepted]

Does the OP managed to get his initial withdrawals back? It's bad that they didn't even give back your deposit amount. I think you should open up a scam accusation and include all the evidence and proofs about this thing. Does anyone have a similar experience about the Betflip.io?

[brassnuts]

Honestly, if it makes you feel better you can open a scam thread, but you will get nothing off of Betflip, and that is a promise.