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DeadwoodDan
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March 27, 2014, 04:15:23 AM |
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Looking for investment for established music festival of ~2500 BTC, return = ~150,000 BTC at current exchange rate in 5 years.
saw these numbers, didn't read further, could put "lol" here but frankly fail to see the point
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March 27, 2014, 05:40:35 AM |
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Earning Bitcoins in the future will likely to be hard, we have no idea what the exchange rate will be in five years.
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Radar
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Pm me if you're a casino developer!
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March 27, 2014, 07:37:24 AM |
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Sounds like the OP is trying to throw everyone a big party :p
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jimmothy
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March 28, 2014, 04:49:40 AM |
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The point is that whatever capital that is put in will have a 6000% gain over 5 years.
Bullshit. Anyone can make ridiculous claims like that and the fact that your claims are so far off from reality means nobody is going to invest.
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Drew Horne (OP)
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March 28, 2014, 01:10:53 PM Last edit: March 28, 2014, 01:28:44 PM by Drew Horne |
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Ok. So just move on to the next thread. Please don't flame mine. You haven't seen my business plan, you don't know my market. I have 40 pages of valid reasons why I made that statement. You have nothing but skepticism. Please keep it out of my thread and I will speak with the people who understand how to think outside of a box. As mentioned in the original thread, even if you are just curious at how I am able to toss such huge return numbers around, please don't hesitate to email me at lunarmassive2014@gmail.comI'll shoot you over an NDA and then I'll send you our business plan. I think it will clear up any doubt pretty readily.
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to the moon, etc.
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March 28, 2014, 08:04:43 PM |
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Money is not the only thing required to book the kind of talent you would need for the returns you're forecasting. Regardless of if you have a DEMF/Paxahau guy on your side, most of the major booking agencies (SPIN, WME, AM Only, etc) will not even return your phone calls if they don't have a pre-existing relationship with you. While a good idea in theory, your post contains a lot of fluff and speculation. It also does not really belong in the securities section.
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[16:41] <gecko_x2> stfu bitch [16:41] <gecko_x2> i know more about the us SEC and the illuminati than you could ever dream of
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Swordsoffreedom
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March 28, 2014, 08:16:12 PM |
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Looking for investment for established music festival of ~2500 BTC, return = ~150,000 BTC at current exchange rate in 5 years.
saw these numbers, didn't read further, could put "lol" here but frankly fail to see the point Something just topped a Havelock IPO (Sorry that was a bit mean) But really this number is insane
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March 28, 2014, 09:03:06 PM |
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Ok. So just move on to the next thread. Please don't flame mine. You haven't seen my business plan, you don't know my market. I have 40 pages of valid reasons why I made that statement. You have nothing but skepticism. Please keep it out of my thread and I will speak with the people who understand how to think outside of a box. As mentioned in the original thread, even if you are just curious at how I am able to toss such huge return numbers around, please don't hesitate to email me at lunarmassive2014@gmail.comI'll shoot you over an NDA and then I'll send you our business plan. I think it will clear up any doubt pretty readily. This isn't a spiritual communion forum, this is a securities forum. You want a business plan considered? You post it. You want to be taken seriously? You go through the basic steps of getting yourself established. No "I'm immune cause I have an anonymous "friend" who's been around longer than me". No "I can't show you my plan because it's super secret and revolutionary and I'd like you on my mailing list." No "I can be as irreverently stupid as I'd like and nobody can call me on it because I asked nicely." It doesn't matter how much you think you need, or how much you imagine you can return. It doesn't matter how pressed for time you feel, or how great you think your idea is. If you want to interact with the program, get with the program.
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Drew Horne (OP)
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March 28, 2014, 09:38:13 PM |
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Money is not the only thing required to book the kind of talent you would need for the returns you're forecasting. Regardless of if you have a DEMF/Paxahau guy on your side, most of the major booking agencies (SPIN, WME, AM Only, etc) will not even return your phone calls if they don't have a pre-existing relationship with you. While a good idea in theory, your post contains a lot of fluff and speculation. It also does not really belong in the securities section.
Very good point toastee. Our guy, however, has had relationships with all of the major agents at William Morris, AM Only, Circle, SPIN, Bullitt, Windish, etc for a very long time, some over 10 years. The show we have already thrown included New World Punx (Ferry Corsten and Markus Schulz collaboration) 2nd performance in America. Our guy booked this act as well as the majority of the other headliners, has a personal relationship with Joel Zimmerman (Deadmau5) and can book just about any artist on the planet. This isn't a spiritual communion forum, this is a securities forum. You want a business plan considered? You post it. You want to be taken seriously? You go through the basic steps of getting yourself established. No "I'm immune cause I have an anonymous "friend" who's been around longer than me". No "I can't show you my plan because it's super secret and revolutionary and I'd like you on my mailing list." No "I can be as irreverently stupid as I'd like and nobody can call me on it because I asked nicely." It doesn't matter how much you think you need, or how much you imagine you can return. It doesn't matter how pressed for time you feel, or how great you think your idea is. If you want to interact with the program, get with the program. I really don't understand how some people have TIME to be so pointlessly hostile on this forum. It is simple - If you aren't interested or you think this is foolish, don't respond. If someone has interest, they can send me a private message or an email at that email address and we can work from there. I am not publicly broadcasting my business plan due to its unique nature meant to take advantage of the market. If I were willing to publicly broadcast my business plan, that's when you should be skeptical because doing the same thing as everyone else right now is not how you are going to be successful enough to promise such a ludicrous return. So back to the point - If you are interested, please contact me and we can discuss more details. If you are simply here to flame, please move on. Admins - if this thread is in the wrong place please let me know and I am more than willing to move it to where it needs to be.
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March 29, 2014, 01:43:20 AM |
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I really don't understand how some people have TIME to be so pointlessly hostile on this forum.
I don't see how someone donating their time to warn people away from idiots and or scammers is pointless. Here's a starter list: -who are you? -the south park episode I'm reminded of is the $90 trillion blender -your proprietary plan/idea fails to account for deflation (unless stealing the value appreciation of your investors Bitcoins is your goal ala Havelock) - ^ tells me you have very little idea of how bitcoin works -you sound like a con artist and name drop like a d list promoter I am not publicly broadcasting my business plan due to its unique nature meant to take advantage of the market. If I were willing to publicly broadcast my business plan, that's when you should be skeptical because doing the same thing as everyone else right now is not how you are going to be successful enough to promise such a ludicrous return.
Admins - if this thread is in the wrong place please let me know and I am more than willing to move it to where it needs to be.
You're a scammer.. in the Securities section.. of bitcointalk.org..... You're in the right place.
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March 29, 2014, 01:58:08 PM |
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I think there is a lot of future in that industry (I have a friend making big bucks in fact) but if you want people to trust you you will have to work a lot harder. The Bitcoin community has already been fleeced so many times that very few people are still willing to throw their money into ventures with so little information. If you do decide to provide more information about your plan and yourself and others who will take part in the venture I'm sure some of us might consider investing something.
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March 29, 2014, 06:41:58 PM |
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March 29, 2014, 08:26:24 PM |
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-Newbie -Makes wild propositions with no data to back it up -Offers huge interest. -Offers no collateral.
Best most legit offer ever. Everyone , invest all your BTC now !
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No longer active on bitcointalk, however, you can still reach me via PMs if needed.
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MPOE-PR
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March 29, 2014, 09:28:58 PM |
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Stupidity is a dizzying array of the same flavor. -Newbie -Makes wild propositions with no data to back it up -Offers huge interest. -Offers no collateral.
Best most legit offer ever. Everyone , invest all your BTC now !
Someone should make snarkoin. You mine it by posting on TardsTalk.
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March 29, 2014, 10:09:18 PM |
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Will this project make twice as much us dollars if the price of bitcoin doubles? Because that's what you'll need to do if the statement in your title is correct.
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April 08, 2014, 09:25:06 PM |
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I have been in touch with Drew the last days and he has sent me his business plan. After having looked at it I can say it is very professionally presented, thorough and ambitious but feasible nevertheless. If I compare this to the projects some people have been throwing tons of cash into lately which hardly had any business plan at all or they lacked basic financials (like NEO-BEE recently), I think it's one of the most serious offerings here on Bitcointalk. The guys have experience organizing music festivals (have a look at the Lunar Massive videos on Youtube or their Facebook page) and I agree with Drew in that there is potential in this market.
This said, of course it's not for everyone (in fact I told Drew that Bitcointalk is probably not the best place to come at this moment looking for funding given the recent events). The organizers have their reasons to not want to do an IPO as such but rather limit the offering to a reduced number of investors which of course sets a higher share price. So if you're in a position to invest a larger chunk of money I would say: drop a line to Drew, sign the NDA and have a look at his plan, then do your research and then make your own decision.
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April 08, 2014, 09:28:19 PM |
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Will this project make twice as much us dollars if the price of bitcoin doubles? Because that's what you'll need to do if the statement in your title is correct.
With this kind of ventures you have to forget about Bitcoin valuation as it is just an investment vehicle. It is a business thought for the fiat world and returns will be in fiat (maybe converted to BTC at the time of payment). You have to decide if you would rather hold the BTC expecting a higher return than the investment in the proposed timeframe.
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April 09, 2014, 10:48:23 PM |
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Will this project make twice as much us dollars if the price of bitcoin doubles? Because that's what you'll need to do if the statement in your title is correct.
With this kind of ventures you have to forget about Bitcoin valuation as it is just an investment vehicle. It is a business thought for the fiat world and returns will be in fiat (maybe converted to BTC at the time of payment). You have to decide if you would rather hold the BTC expecting a higher return than the investment in the proposed timeframe. All other things equal of course and you expect the estimates to be accurate but in this case would call that into question
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April 11, 2014, 09:20:38 PM |
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I have been in touch with Drew the last days and he has sent me his business plan. After having looked at it I can say it is very professionally presented, thorough and ambitious but feasible nevertheless. If I compare this to the projects some people have been throwing tons of cash into lately which hardly had any business plan at all or they lacked basic financials (like NEO-BEE recently), I think it's one of the most serious offerings here on Bitcointalk. The guys have experience organizing music festivals (have a look at the Lunar Massive videos on Youtube or their Facebook page) and I agree with Drew in that there is potential in this market.
This said, of course it's not for everyone (in fact I told Drew that Bitcointalk is probably not the best place to come at this moment looking for funding given the recent events). The organizers have their reasons to not want to do an IPO as such but rather limit the offering to a reduced number of investors which of course sets a higher share price. So if you're in a position to invest a larger chunk of money I would say: drop a line to Drew, sign the NDA and have a look at his plan, then do your research and then make your own decision.
Thanks for the vouch thehun Anyone else interested in these levels of returns please do not hesitate to contact me through private message
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