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December 29, 2021, 12:59:31 PM
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What about if Russell win over magsayo it will popular too, i think their is manipulation in boxing game the person you have hope that will win and in normal is suppose win the game will just lose it because bet and plenty people have betted on him as a winner and after manipulating it they share money with the winner, i know it will not happen like that in this boxing, let watch and see who will defeat each other by my credit goes to magsayo
Nope, if Russell win it doesn't change anything since he's only defending his belt... not snatch the new belt.

Well your assumption are too much about this fight, for me there's no manipulation if we talking about real/professional boxer when the boxer got cut, bloody, serious injury etc. It's different with exhibition fight when the boxer mostly hugging each other, running until the time out, not serious, and no one's injured. And exhibition fight usually offer a lot money rather than the professional fight (except the boxer is very popular).

Right, he is already popular in the US already, but the thing is that he seldom fight and so obviously his resume is not that good. And I believed that if he fights the other champion in the division as opposed to just hibernating and coming out to fight as he pleases, his could could be in the discussions for pound for pound and could really be earning a lot of money by now. However, since his lost to Loma, he seems to be slowing down and doesn't want to accept bigger names and big challenges in the division.

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December 29, 2021, 01:28:28 PM
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What about if Russell win over magsayo it will popular too, i think their is manipulation in boxing game the person you have hope that will win and in normal is suppose win the game will just lose it because bet and plenty people have betted on him as a winner and after manipulating it they share money with the winner, i know it will not happen like that in this boxing, let watch and see who will defeat each other by my credit goes to magsayo
Nope, if Russell win it doesn't change anything since he's only defending his belt... not snatch the new belt.

Well your assumption are too much about this fight, for me there's no manipulation if we talking about real/professional boxer when the boxer got cut, bloody, serious injury etc. It's different with exhibition fight when the boxer mostly hugging each other, running until the time out, not serious, and no one's injured. And exhibition fight usually offer a lot money rather than the professional fight (except the boxer is very popular).

Right, he is already popular in the US already, but the thing is that he seldom fight and so obviously his resume is not that good. And I believed that if he fights the other champion in the division as opposed to just hibernating and coming out to fight as he pleases, his could could be in the discussions for pound for pound and could really be earning a lot of money by now. However, since his lost to Loma, he seems to be slowing down and doesn't want to accept bigger names and big challenges in the division.

There's only one way to find out if he was able to maintain himself despite being inactive for a while, and we will see it as soon as he will fight Magsayo who is a pretty much active boxer and is hungry to become a champion, I know what most of us are rooting here so we have some few positive words for Rusell.

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December 29, 2021, 04:34:42 PM
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it is true that if Magsayo beat Russell this would be his best accomplishment above the ring so far, but I think there are good chances it could happen as I do not think Russell will be at his best.

I like your positivity towards Mark Magsayo even against all odds and on paper to the majority of analysts, he doesn't have any advantages to match with the Favorite Gary Russell. I'm thinking too that since the fight against Russell will be Magsayo's biggest fight so far, he will aggressively push to achieve the win.

Snatching the WBC Featherweight title from Russell will make his name hyped at the Featherweight Division. It will also open for a chance to get a much bigger fight contract in the future.
What I can say to you I am a positive person Wink, however when I say good chance I am not saying he is the favorite what I am saying is that he can win if the circumstances are right, after all there are opponents like Canelo that you simply know are not going to be beaten right now as they are on their prime, however even if Russell is without a doubt a good fighter he is not unbeatable, if the style of Magsayo is difficult to figure out for Russell then Magsayo can pull the win.



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December 29, 2021, 06:44:13 PM
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it is true that if Magsayo beat Russell this would be his best accomplishment above the ring so far, but I think there are good chances it could happen as I do not think Russell will be at his best.

I like your positivity towards Mark Magsayo even against all odds and on paper to the majority of analysts, he doesn't have any advantages to match with the Favorite Gary Russell. I'm thinking too that since the fight against Russell will be Magsayo's biggest fight so far, he will aggressively push to achieve the win.

Snatching the WBC Featherweight title from Russell will make his name hyped at the Featherweight Division. It will also open for a chance to get a much bigger fight contract in the future.
What I can say to you I am a positive person Wink, however when I say good chance I am not saying he is the favorite what I am saying is that he can win if the circumstances are right, after all there are opponents like Canelo that you simply know are not going to be beaten right now as they are on their prime, however even if Russell is without a doubt a good fighter he is not unbeatable, if the style of Magsayo is difficult to figure out for Russell then Magsayo can pull the win.
Actually, these two boxers all have weaknesses and strengths for Russell himself is a great boxer with strength, speed and good IQ ring, but on the other hand he is always focused on attack to the point of forgetting defense which sometimes only makes the enemy get points with his punches.
on the other hand magsayo is a young boxer who is predicted to be the successor of pacquiau. Her performance is quite stable but she still can't control her emotions well.
overall maybe this will benefit russel but it is possible that magsayo will make a surprise

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December 29, 2021, 08:20:12 PM
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it is true that if Magsayo beat Russell this would be his best accomplishment above the ring so far, but I think there are good chances it could happen as I do not think Russell will be at his best.

I like your positivity towards Mark Magsayo even against all odds and on paper to the majority of analysts, he doesn't have any advantages to match with the Favorite Gary Russell. I'm thinking too that since the fight against Russell will be Magsayo's biggest fight so far, he will aggressively push to achieve the win.

Snatching the WBC Featherweight title from Russell will make his name hyped at the Featherweight Division. It will also open for a chance to get a much bigger fight contract in the future.
What I can say to you I am a positive person Wink, however when I say good chance I am not saying he is the favorite what I am saying is that he can win if the circumstances are right, after all there are opponents like Canelo that you simply know are not going to be beaten right now as they are on their prime, however even if Russell is without a doubt a good fighter he is not unbeatable, if the style of Magsayo is difficult to figure out for Russell then Magsayo can pull the win.

I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

The lower weight class is so unpredictable that a single punch can change the outcome of the fight and that's where Magsayo is so dangerous to be an opponent because he has those characteristics (as we saw in his last fight against Ceja) and also Filipino boxers tend to shine when odds are against them.

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December 29, 2021, 10:07:24 PM
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it is true that if Magsayo beat Russell this would be his best accomplishment above the ring so far, but I think there are good chances it could happen as I do not think Russell will be at his best.

I like your positivity towards Mark Magsayo even against all odds and on paper to the majority of analysts, he doesn't have any advantages to match with the Favorite Gary Russell. I'm thinking too that since the fight against Russell will be Magsayo's biggest fight so far, he will aggressively push to achieve the win.

Snatching the WBC Featherweight title from Russell will make his name hyped at the Featherweight Division. It will also open for a chance to get a much bigger fight contract in the future.
What I can say to you I am a positive person Wink, however when I say good chance I am not saying he is the favorite what I am saying is that he can win if the circumstances are right, after all there are opponents like Canelo that you simply know are not going to be beaten right now as they are on their prime, however even if Russell is without a doubt a good fighter he is not unbeatable, if the style of Magsayo is difficult to figure out for Russell then Magsayo can pull the win.

I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

The lower weight class is so unpredictable that a single punch can change the outcome of the fight and that's where Magsayo is so dangerous to be an opponent because he has those characteristics (as we saw in his last fight against Ceja) and also Filipino boxers tend to shine when odds are against them.

Magsayo has that kind of power so he really has a good chance here. I haven't seen Russell fought yet, he is popular because he is a champion but of course, our support is for Magsayo and we will stay biased regarding it. Once the betting odds are available, I'm sure many will take Magsayo especially if he is an underdog as that is so enticing.

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December 31, 2021, 04:27:28 PM
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Magsayo has that kind of power so he really has a good chance here. I haven't seen Russell fought yet, he is popular because he is a champion but of course, our support is for Magsayo and we will stay biased regarding it. Once the betting odds are available, I'm sure many will take Magsayo especially if he is an underdog as that is so enticing.

That power would be useless if he can't hit his opponent with a clean shot. Magsayo has to really improve, real talk man, he can't win against a champion if he does the same in his last fight, he is lucky he hit his opponent with a good shot and knock him down, against a champion, he certainly has to work harder as he needs more than that, most especially his stamina should be good.
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December 31, 2021, 04:59:25 PM
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

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December 31, 2021, 09:17:15 PM
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

His last fight was in February 2020, so that's almost 2 years already that he has not fought. Some boxers fought 2 to 3 times a year that's why some think that Russell is inactive due to his low fights average per year. And no doubt, everyone's rooting for the Filipino challenger to win and we are taking the underdog here.
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December 31, 2021, 09:51:46 PM
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

IMO, two years of not fighting is a long time, he may be active in the gym but it is different when you are in a real fight that is why I consider Russell inactive but it doesn't mean that he is at the disadvantage here, ring rust might bring some trouble.

Magsayo vs Ceja was the Knockout of the Year for 2021, this gives some confidence to the Filipino fighter.

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January 01, 2022, 12:27:29 PM
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

His last fight was in February 2020, so that's almost 2 years already that he has not fought. Some boxers fought 2 to 3 times a year that's why some think that Russell is inactive due to his low fights average per year. And no doubt, everyone's rooting for the Filipino challenger to win and we are taking the underdog here.

That's really some inactivity, 2 years is a long layoff and yes, it could affect Russell negatively. Just look at how active Canelo is, fighting twice or even thrice if his schedule will permit. So for me this is a disadvantage for Russell. He may be quick but if you are inactive then maybe that speed will not be there, just saying so Magsayo has a good chance to beat Russell specially if he can land early on Russell and proved to him that he has a serious power and not just an easy comeback opponent for him.

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January 01, 2022, 12:38:03 PM
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

His last fight was in February 2020, so that's almost 2 years already that he has not fought. Some boxers fought 2 to 3 times a year that's why some think that Russell is inactive due to his low fights average per year. And no doubt, everyone's rooting for the Filipino challenger to win and we are taking the underdog here.

That's really some inactivity, 2 years is a long layoff and yes, it could affect Russell negatively. Just look at how active Canelo is, fighting twice or even thrice if his schedule will permit. So for me this is a disadvantage for Russell. He may be quick but if you are inactive then maybe that speed will not be there, just saying so Magsayo has a good chance to beat Russell specially if he can land early on Russell and proved to him that he has a serious power and not just an easy comeback opponent for him.

That's a disadvantage to him but he is still the champion and we can't underestimate him. I don't like to be so hype with Magsayo, but his opponent here is a real champion and could beat him if he does not improve his skills in boxing. We all saw what happen during his last fight, we were disappointed in the early rounds but he finish it with a nice KO win.

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January 01, 2022, 12:42:13 PM
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

His last fight was in February 2020, so that's almost 2 years already that he has not fought. Some boxers fought 2 to 3 times a year that's why some think that Russell is inactive due to his low fights average per year. And no doubt, everyone's rooting for the Filipino challenger to win and we are taking the underdog here.

That's really some inactivity, 2 years is a long layoff and yes, it could affect Russell negatively. Just look at how active Canelo is, fighting twice or even thrice if his schedule will permit. So for me this is a disadvantage for Russell. He may be quick but if you are inactive then maybe that speed will not be there, just saying so Magsayo has a good chance to beat Russell specially if he can land early on Russell and proved to him that he has a serious power and not just an easy comeback opponent for him.

That's a disadvantage to him but he is still the champion and we can't underestimate him. I don't like to be so hype with Magsayo, but his opponent here is a real champion and could beat him if he does not improve his skills in boxing. We all saw what happen during his last fight, we were disappointed in the early rounds but he finish it with a nice KO win.

It could either go that way if you have a good knock out punch. As we can see in his previous fight, it was ugly but in the end, he manages to escape with a win with those big knock out. If he doesn't have that power, maybe he could have lost easily.

But against Russell, it's hard to just rely on one single punch to change the fight in his favour. He needs to train very hard and his team could have a good strategy as well.

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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

His last fight was in February 2020, so that's almost 2 years already that he has not fought. Some boxers fought 2 to 3 times a year that's why some think that Russell is inactive due to his low fights average per year. And no doubt, everyone's rooting for the Filipino challenger to win and we are taking the underdog here.

That's really some inactivity, 2 years is a long layoff and yes, it could affect Russell negatively. Just look at how active Canelo is, fighting twice or even thrice if his schedule will permit. So for me this is a disadvantage for Russell. He may be quick but if you are inactive then maybe that speed will not be there, just saying so Magsayo has a good chance to beat Russell specially if he can land early on Russell and proved to him that he has a serious power and not just an easy comeback opponent for him.

That's a disadvantage to him but he is still the champion and we can't underestimate him. I don't like to be so hype with Magsayo, but his opponent here is a real champion and could beat him if he does not improve his skills in boxing. We all saw what happen during his last fight, we were disappointed in the early rounds but he finish it with a nice KO win.

It could either go that way if you have a good knock out punch. As we can see in his previous fight, it was ugly but in the end, he manages to escape with a win with those big knock out. If he doesn't have that power, maybe he could have lost easily.

But against Russell, it's hard to just rely on one single punch to change the fight in his favour. He needs to train very hard and his team could have a good strategy as well.

As most fans said that this is the biggest fight of Magsayo, so we cannot compare it with his previous fight where he won, this is different because he is the underdog or the challenger for the title. Russell may not ring a bell for some because he was inactive, but we cannot change the fact that he is still a champion and he beat his past opponents to get to where he is now.
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.


1 fight per year for Russel seems a bit weak. If anything that sounds like a portrayal of laziness. A professional boxxer should be more motivated to fight more, gain more and train more. Thats why Russel is not really a great contender, at least not in my book.

Being hungry is great, but hunger alone does not beat experience or skill. Again, not really things I myself would bet on. But lets see how it goes. We might be surprised.

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January 01, 2022, 02:06:25 PM
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.


1 fight per year for Russel seems a bit weak. If anything that sounds like a portrayal of laziness. A professional boxxer should be more motivated to fight more, gain more and train more. Thats why Russel is not really a great contender, at least not in my book.

Being hungry is great, but hunger alone does not beat experience or skill. Again, not really things I myself would bet on. But lets see how it goes. We might be surprised.

I guess that depends on the promoter handling Rusell, if they are not active in marketing him then he can't do anything but wait until a good fight is given to him, and this time, he gets a good opponent that came from a very impressive victory. The fact that Rusell is a champion, I don't want to question him anymore as I expect he is a great fighter and that is a great challenge for Magsayo.

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I guess that depends on the promoter handling Rusell, if they are not active in marketing him then he can't do anything but wait until a good fight is given to him, and this time, he gets a good opponent that came from a very impressive victory. The fact that Rusell is a champion, I don't want to question him anymore as I expect he is a great fighter and that is a great challenge for Magsayo.

Handlers affect each fighter, no question about that.

The boxer will fight when handlers already sign a deal for him, not sure what kind of promoter Russell have
but yes, he is a champion good enough to say that he is also a tough contender.

Magsayo will be tested with this fight and both of them will receive a good hype whoever wins this fight.
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I do agree plus the fact that Russell is not so active inside the ring could bring him trouble against a hungry challenger in Magsayo.

Russell averages 1 fight per year it's only on this year, he doesn't have a fight. I don't think we can call Russell inactive for that. He doesn't rest for over 2 years that's why I don't take that inactivity this year as his disadvantage.

But as fellow PH, I'm looking forward to Magsayo winning. I hope him being hungry, will be the new champion on that big night.

His last fight was in February 2020, so that's almost 2 years already that he has not fought. Some boxers fought 2 to 3 times a year that's why some think that Russell is inactive due to his low fights average per year. And no doubt, everyone's rooting for the Filipino challenger to win and we are taking the underdog here.

That's really some inactivity, 2 years is a long layoff and yes, it could affect Russell negatively. Just look at how active Canelo is, fighting twice or even thrice if his schedule will permit. So for me this is a disadvantage for Russell. He may be quick but if you are inactive then maybe that speed will not be there, just saying so Magsayo has a good chance to beat Russell specially if he can land early on Russell and proved to him that he has a serious power and not just an easy comeback opponent for him.

That's a disadvantage to him but he is still the champion and we can't underestimate him. I don't like to be so hype with Magsayo, but his opponent here is a real champion and could beat him if he does not improve his skills in boxing. We all saw what happen during his last fight, we were disappointed in the early rounds but he finish it with a nice KO win.

Yes, and if Magsayo is a smart boxer (which I truly believed he is and his people behind), they won't underestimate Russell just because of his long layoff and inactivity. We don't know, maybe behind he is doing other sports too to keep his body and mind very active. Let's forgot Magsayo's performance last fight, he is fighting a different boxer here, maybe he will go and improved from that Ceja 'almost disaster' fight if not for that huge knock out late in the fight for him. Now, he should focus on Russell as this is going to be a different and difficult fight for him. Much difficult than Ceja.

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I guess that depends on the promoter handling Rusell, if they are not active in marketing him then he can't do anything but wait until a good fight is given to him, and this time, he gets a good opponent that came from a very impressive victory. The fact that Rusell is a champion, I don't want to question him anymore as I expect he is a great fighter and that is a great challenge for Magsayo.

Handlers affect each fighter, no question about that.

The boxer will fight when handlers already sign a deal for him, not sure what kind of promoter Russell have
but yes, he is a champion good enough to say that he is also a tough contender.

Magsayo will be tested with this fight and both of them will receive a good hype whoever wins this fight.

Not sure if Russell is under any promotional management though, and that is the main reason why he only gets one fight a year because no one is looking for him as he chooses to be some sort of freelance. Nevertheless this is a good fight that he and Magsayo secure. And I will consider this maybe an early fight of the year candidate if it really goes out as what we are all expecting, a volume and speed puncher against a power boxer in Magsayo. In will be a clash and who ever landed the big punch first will likely win the contest.

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I guess that depends on the promoter handling Rusell, if they are not active in marketing him then he can't do anything but wait until a good fight is given to him, and this time, he gets a good opponent that came from a very impressive victory. The fact that Rusell is a champion, I don't want to question him anymore as I expect he is a great fighter and that is a great challenge for Magsayo.

Handlers affect each fighter, no question about that.

The boxer will fight when handlers already sign a deal for him, not sure what kind of promoter Russell have
but yes, he is a champion good enough to say that he is also a tough contender.

Magsayo will be tested with this fight and both of them will receive a good hype whoever wins this fight.

Not sure if Russell is under any promotional management though, and that is the main reason why he only gets one fight a year because no one is looking for him as he chooses to be some sort of freelance. Nevertheless this is a good fight that he and Magsayo secure. And I will consider this maybe an early fight of the year candidate if it really goes out as what we are all expecting, a volume and speed puncher against a power boxer in Magsayo. In will be a clash and who ever landed the big punch first will likely win the contest.

Is it possible that a boxer is not under a promotional business? I mean, how can he get a fight if no one is promoting him, I think everyone works with a promotional management but not all of them are popular I guess. That actually it needs for the sake of having a known opponent, it is something like we need to market ourselves and get a buyer.
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