Solar Panels, Home fuel cells, etc?

[mitsos2017]

I have an off grid house on a mountain.
Its about 25 Km from work, and I spend there 6-9 months of the year.
I have a small solar panel installation 420Wp (+ 1200VA inverter), which is enough for lights, fridge, TV, laptop, etc.
In the kitchen I use gas, and a solar water heater for bath.
In the cold days a fire place (woods from tree pruning around the house) is perfect.
The only bill I'm paying is for water. (in this area is once a year, last year I've payed about 50 Euros).

That's all.

You don't need 10KW solar panels, if you make a good plan for your needs.

[Johnzky]

My parents, er...room mates...just signed the contract for a 33 panel array for our house.  Some of that is due to me mining 24/7, hehe.  We did it the lease way, where you just pay a monthly bill to the solar company, instead of buying out of pocket up front.

So instead of paying the power company monthly, you're paying the people who installed it monthly? LOL I guess the only reason you would do that is if you wanted to be green.

Is it lease to own, as in will it eventually be paid off?

And it was the most practical way,not oaying the electricity provider and just the solar company in which after some years not like in electric bills that you will be paying the whole life

[Karamabit_209]

It is a really good idea. People are just narrow minded, they always think that it would cost them a large amount but do not think how much it would save them in a long run. Adding to the point, it is also like the life here in cryptocurrency where they are afraid to invest money that will actually make then earn it in a long run if they have just invested.

[Kamoteng Kahoy]

It is a really good idea. People are just narrow minded, they always think that it would cost them a large amount but do not think how much it would save them in a long run. Adding to the point, it is also like the life here in cryptocurrency where they are afraid to invest money that will actually make then earn it in a long run if they have just invested.

How about those countries where rain is often to them?  Is it still a logical and practical way l?

[Karamabit_209]

It is a really good idea. People are just narrow minded, they always think that it would cost them a large amount but do not think how much it would save them in a long run. Adding to the point, it is also like the life here in cryptocurrency where they are afraid to invest money that will actually make then earn it in a long run if they have just invested.

How about those countries where rain is often to them?  Is it still a logical and practical way l?

Obviously not. Common sense, I am talking about the countries which rain does not come often. Anyways, my point is that it really practical on those dry and hot countries. They just need to invest money like in trading and gambling here in this industry and let the money grow from itself!

[Becksinsky]

 Why is a return on investment a joke?
I think it's just the same seriousness

[Artemis3]

Why is a return on investment a joke?
I think it's just the same seriousness

By that account South Korea should have the most renewable generation, given its the most expensive electricity in the world. It would be especially great if they allowed you to sell your production...

Also whats wrong with some rain? Won't it clean the panels for free?

[markstivn98]

I realize that the return on the investment is a joke, but I'm more wondering if anyone who is living with others (cough home with parents) who have solar panels or Combined heat and power fuel cells see in terms of power bills.

I realize the economics:  10 KW of solar panels is going to run you many tens of thousands of dollars, even including tax incentives and NOT including maintenance and degredation.  This is not a question of whether or not its economical to build a farm with some methane powered fuel cells, parabolic stirling engine solar generators, and photovoltaics covering every square inch of the property.  I'm just curious

I'm sure there are some people out there with sizable enough solar panels to see a noticable drop in their bills.


Also I would be lying if I said I was not trying to get out of noob status 

Reliance on solar energy is much better
Provides plenty of energy
Invoices are less expensive
It's good.

[markstivn98]

I am sure we will be seeing new forms of energy combined with Bitcoin in the future.

You are sure there will be new forms of power
Mining relies heavily on solar energy
You are much better

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that solar panels are a great investment, because I see it from the electronic point of view, the consumption and the use of the energy that we naturally know from the sun.

If we know how to take advantage of our natural resources to create technology, we will be at a level 1 technology, since there are no environmental impacts.

 In my case, I would like to have my house with the use of solar panels, the only thing is that in my country imports are on the floor, and they turn out to be impossible at this moment, but I have researched about it and I would like to develop projects through which a solar panel in a disposable bottle of coca cola with water, is charged during the day and illuminated at night, can function as a fluorescent bulb, where the total illumination would be maintained during the dark of night and charged during the day.

[Avaemmaa]

I realize that the return on the investment is a joke, but I'm more wondering if anyone who is living with others (cough home with parents) who have solar panels or Combined heat and power fuel cells see in terms of power bills.

I realize the economics:  10 KW of solar panels is going to run you many tens of thousands of dollars, even including tax incentives and NOT including maintenance and degredation.  This is not a question of whether or not its economical to build a farm with some methane powered fuel cells, parabolic stirling engine solar generators, and photovoltaics covering every square inch of the property.  I'm just curious

I'm sure there are some people out there with sizable enough solar panels to see a noticable drop in their bills.


Also I would be lying if I said I was not trying to get out of noob status 

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[Witchlist]

I put solar panels on my house.  Set me back about 11K out of pocket.  I have not paid one dime in electricity costs since the installation.  Even if the cost of electricity does not go up the pannels will all be paid off in 7 years.  Then it is all gravy from then on.  With all the rebates I got from the state and the federal goverments it seemed to be a good deal so I did it.  I am very happy with the installation and the fact I no longer pay an electricity bill.

BTW if you are interested you can see all my electricity production and consumption here:  http://egauge327.d.egauge.net

There has been snow on the system for the past few days so very little production.  May have to get up there and sweep them off.  Usually I don't - just wait for it to melt off.

Good luck getting out of the noob purgatory!

Do you have inverters incase the weather is not good for days?

[Mauser]

My parents got their solar panels 10 years ago. It was just a few small planes on the roof. We paid around 8,000 EUR and saved around 25% of the energy cost. The problem we had was that after 5 years more than half of the panels were defect and had to be removed. In the end my parents didn't decide to get new ones. So economic wise this was a really bad investment. Today's solar panels seem to be much more reliable and have higher efficency. It might be much more attractive now.

[Chato1977]

I put solar panels on my house.  Set me back about 11K out of pocket.  I have not paid one dime in electricity costs since the installation.  Even if the cost of electricity does not go up the pannels will all be paid off in 7 years.  Then it is all gravy from then on.  With all the rebates I got from the state and the federal goverments it seemed to be a good deal so I did it.  I am very happy with the installation and the fact I no longer pay an electricity bill.

BTW if you are interested you can see all my electricity production and consumption here:  http://egauge327.d.egauge.net

There has been snow on the system for the past few days so very little production.  May have to get up there and sweep them off.  Usually I don't - just wait for it to melt off.

Good luck getting out of the noob purgatory!

Do you have inverters incase the weather is not good for days?

inverter is part of the package when you buy now and my set up has complete package .

i had been using my solar panels for years now and even when there is bad weather i can preserve energy and now i am planning to extend my panels to full usage .

[BurningChrome]

I put solar panels on my house.  Set me back about 11K out of pocket.  I have not paid one dime in electricity costs since the installation.  Even if the cost of electricity does not go up the pannels will all be paid off in 7 years.  Then it is all gravy from then on.  With all the rebates I got from the state and the federal goverments it seemed to be a good deal so I did it.  I am very happy with the installation and the fact I no longer pay an electricity bill.

BTW if you are interested you can see all my electricity production and consumption here:  http://egauge327.d.egauge.net

There has been snow on the system for the past few days so very little production.  May have to get up there and sweep them off.  Usually I don't - just wait for it to melt off.

Good luck getting out of the noob purgatory!

Do you have inverters incase the weather is not good for days?

For each solar power system to work independently of the public grid, batteries and inverters are absolutely essential. Do you really think the panels can work overnight without an inverter?

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[bitterguy28]

I put solar panels on my house.  Set me back about 11K out of pocket.  I have not paid one dime in electricity costs since the installation.  Even if the cost of electricity does not go up the pannels will all be paid off in 7 years.  Then it is all gravy from then on.  With all the rebates I got from the state and the federal goverments it seemed to be a good deal so I did it.  I am very happy with the installation and the fact I no longer pay an electricity bill.

BTW if you are interested you can see all my electricity production and consumption here:  http://egauge327.d.egauge.net

There has been snow on the system for the past few days so very little production.  May have to get up there and sweep them off.  Usually I don't - just wait for it to melt off.

Good luck getting out of the noob purgatory!

Do you have inverters incase the weather is not good for days?

For each solar power system to work independently of the public grid, batteries and inverters are absolutely essential. Do you really think the panels can work overnight without an inverter?

Lol He might not Know what he is saying or he does not know what or How solar panelsystem works 

Don't be so harsh mate ..

[BurningChrome]

Lol He might not Know what he is saying or he does not know what or How solar panelsystem works 

Don't be so harsh mate ..

I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm just being realistic. LOL!

The solar panels are useless if there is no sun. That is somewhat logical, isn't it? 

[decodx]

Yes, inverters are an integral part of a residential solar energy system. They convert the electricity your solar panels create into a form that can be used by appliances and other electronic devices in your household. On-grid systems, however, do not require batteries to operate and they are the most widely solar product used by homeowners. In an on-grid system, solar panels are connected to the public power grid by solar inverters. Any surplus solar power you generate during the day is sold to the power grid. At night, such a system draws electricity from the public power grid like everyone else.

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