TOKPIE Exchange - scam

[CryptorClub]

I do not have experience as user, anyway I do not recommend coin(token) owners to work with service of these team.
Their sites: tokpie.io tokpie.com
after telegram message additional: youengine.io

They convince me, that they list on CoinGecko, CoinMarketCap, etherscan and provide liquidity(trading volume) for a lifetime on their exchange.
For this I've paid (0.343ETH) on that moment is 750$

Non of this things wasn't done. Today I got message, that no even partial 50% refund.

Beware to work with them.

If this topic will be interested, I'll provide screenshots of letters.

Screenshots of letters.
Update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376009.msg58669335#msg58669335

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[CryptorClub]

This message I recently got in Telegram.



and here is topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376035.new#new

[holydarkness]

I do not have experience as user, anyway I do not recommend coin(token) owners to work with service of these team.
Their sites: tokpie.io tokpie.com
after telegram message additional: youengine.io

They convince me, that they list on CoinGecko, CoinMarketCap, etherscan and provide liquidity(trading volume) for a lifetime on their exchange.
For this I've paid 750$

Non of this things wasn't done. Today I got message, that no even partial 50% refund.

Beware to work with them.

If this topic will be interested, I'll provide screenshots of letters.

Better not waiting for people's interest before you release the screenshot of letters. If you'd like to propose a possible scam activity by someone, you should as well present all of the evidences you have against them.

On the other side, your username ringed a bell on my mind that I couldn't just place, it was until I looked at the accusation thread against you selling fake tokens that I remember we have an unfinished discussion on your ANN thread, about your claim of "clean reputation" and your project's progress for the past three years, which for whatever reason, you didn't reply.

[JeromeTash]

You are going to have to upload screenshots of your chat with TOKPIE plus proof of payment of the 750 USD using a transaction ID otherwise no one will take your scam accusation seriously.

I think you have noticed it by now that people seem less interested in it due to lack of the required details. Follow this scam report format - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

[CryptorClub]

I do not have experience as user, anyway I do not recommend coin(token) owners to work with service of these team.
Their sites: tokpie.io tokpie.com
after telegram message additional: youengine.io

They convince me, that they list on CoinGecko, CoinMarketCap, etherscan and provide liquidity(trading volume) for a lifetime on their exchange.
For this I've paid 750$

Non of this things wasn't done. Today I got message, that no even partial 50% refund.

Beware to work with them.

If this topic will be interested, I'll provide screenshots of letters.

Better not waiting for people's interest before you release the screenshot of letters. If you'd like to propose a possible scam activity by someone, you should as well present all of the evidences you have against them.

On the other side, your username ringed a bell on my mind that I couldn't just place, it was until I looked at the accusation thread against you selling fake tokens that I remember we have an unfinished discussion on your ANN thread, about your claim of "clean reputation" and your project's progress for the past three years, which for whatever reason, you didn't reply.

Just replied. See you in ANN

You are going to have to upload screenshots of your chat with TOKPIE plus proof of payment of the 750 USD using a transaction ID otherwise no one will take your scam accusation seriously.

I think you have noticed it by now that people seem less interested in it due to lack of the required details. Follow this scam report format - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

What happened:
Took eth and not complete, what promised, list on CoinGecko, CoinMarketCap, etherscan and provide liquidity(trading volume) for a lifetime on their exchange. Avoid to refund even part.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357369 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1887294

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050817
Amount Scammed: 0.343 ETH
Payment Method: ETH
Proof of Payment:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb4108c7205321de724ffe03640dc21152791e8298227c572d901f420d45510ca
PM/Chat Logs:






Update:


Additional Notes:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x89bc3de2e4669e68c0eb768e1f911c54ef1e13aee4b62d9394735b18917f15b7
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1c1a7d2d9ba0cd51b9b79e010d9126404dd5decda8ef8bf69d86694cfa5348b9

[JeromeTash]

Just to be clear, I have seen a couple of Green Token transactions (10,000 and 20,000). In the agreement, I see $750 in ETH and 10,000 Green tokens.
 Did you later on agree to just give them 30,000 Green tokens in total?

Since the accused are not responding to the accusation. I am tagging both accounts so that they come here and respond before I make final Judgement.

[LinksMe.ga]

Just to be clear, I have seen a couple of Green Token transactions (10,000 and 20,000). In the agreement, I see $750 in ETH and 10,000 Green tokens.
 Did you later on agree to just give them 30,000 Green tokens in total?

Since the accused are not responding to the accusation. I am tagging both accounts so that they come here and respond before I make final Judgement.

10 000 Green Tokens for each pair ETH, BTC, USDT = 30000 Green Tokens in total
20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.

Thank you for pay attention!

[JeromeTash]

10 000 Green Tokens for each pair ETH, BTC, USDT = 30000 Green Tokens in total
20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.

Thank you for pay attention!

Alright, makes sense now

BTCITA187 was online today but didn't bother responding to the scam accusation. In the next few days, I will mark them as scammers if they don't do anything to resolve the scam accusation.

I would also advise you to create type 1 and type 2 flags ob their profiles if they don't work on the issue in the coming days.

[LinksMe.ga]

10 000 Green Tokens for each pair ETH, BTC, USDT = 30000 Green Tokens in total
20000 was needed for additional (BTC and USDT) pairs setup, because they start from one pair (ETH) and ask only 10000.
Should be clear.

Thank you for pay attention!

Alright, makes sense now

BTCITA187 was online today but didn't bother responding to the scam accusation. In the next few days, I will mark them as scammers if they don't do anything to resolve the scam accusation.

I would also advise you to create type 1 and type 2 flags ob their profiles if they don't work on the issue in the coming days.

Thank you for help!

Don't used before type 1 and type 2 flags. Will mark in few days.

[holydarkness]

I searched YOUC thread --which also managed by BTCITA187-- and learned that both project had formed a partnership. A cursory glance at the last page gave me an impression that YOUC, however, seems to start abandoning their project.

pls google this issue. There were mutual blog posts between them about cooperation 7-9 months ago.

Although all indication up to this point pointed to the direction that the accused are indeed doing a misconduct, I think we need to be sure we cover every side of the story, this email --I quote below-- is the entire length of the email body? What I wanted to know is whether there is a statement anywhere and at any point during your negotiation with TOKPIE/YOUC that there are certain terms and condition that has to be met for the lifetime volume assistance?

If there is a clear evidence that there were not any information about terms and condition for lifetime support, thus TOKPIE/YOUC is breaching the contract, I'll gladly support the flag.

[JeromeTash]

-snip-

The deal did not work as they changed their terms and conditions. The next thing they were supposed to do was to pay back what OP sent to them and everyone leaves happy, but they refused

I don't know how legitimate OP's project is, but one thing I now know is that he paid them so ETH for a service they have never provided.

[holydarkness]

-snip-

The deal did not work as they changed their terms and conditions. The next thing they were supposed to do was to pay back what OP sent to them and everyone leaves happy, but they refused

I don't know how legitimate OP's project is, but one thing I now know is that he paid them so ETH for a service they have never provided.

As I previously stated, all indications up to this point are in favor of CryptorClub, that Tokpie/YOUC are doing misconduct by breaching their contract. However, I would really love if we could cover every ground --and every side of the story-- before the flag raised. What concerned me, other than some emails are not shown in full, which leads to a possibility to a biased judgement from the third parties who read this thread, is the date between the emails.

CryptorClub were exchanging emails with Tokpie team on April, which emails can be summed as that Tokpie promised a promotion, free lifetime volume assistance, and listing on CG, CMC, etc. within 24-72 hours after the payment, which set us roughly around the end of April 2021 at the latest to see all of the deals to be completed. So why do they waited until December, more than 7 months, to report the failed deal? I'm curious if there are other exchanges of emails between April and December.

Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this



Now, I'm not sure if my hunch is correct, that judging from the post history, LinksMe.ga is CryptorClub's alt, and if I'm correct, whether this should be considered as a ban-evasion, but I'll leave that matters --just like I'm temporarily dropping the discussion in GGREEN's Ann-- in pursue of solving this case. Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.

[...]
I'm not full-time part of team, but write here covering interests of Green team direction and CryptorClub account was muted on 30 day because of "incentive posts" on Bounty topic (it wasn't, because those topic collect addresses for airdrop). Anyway that was recognized as incentive and answer from CryptorClub, seems we got in New Year.
Maybe needed best, experienced Bounty manager, to manage that thread.

[...]

On the other hand, BTCITA187's silence is rather concerning. If by some reason they're not aware of this thread --which I doubt they didn't-- I am somewhat sure they noticed that bright orange negative trust that sat on their profile. Just in case, I'll wrote on TOKPIE's telegram as well as sending a PM to them. I'll add the screenshot of the invitation via edit. If they remains to be silent after the invitation... well, let's hope not.

Edit: a screenshot of notifying BTCITA187 via PM and a post in YOUC thread --which managed by them.

[BTCITA187]

Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:

1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.

2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!

Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.

Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.

Besides, look at many positive feedback about Tokpie listing service:
MYC: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6804871552434360320?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A6804871552434360320%2C6873198370144571392%29
TREKS: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6866725839640375296?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A6866725839640375296%2C6866823186894331904%29
KLTR: https://twitter.com/thedartcoart/status/1457433106173071374
ZITI: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6796937558434676736
SCCN: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tokpie_discover-the-succession-project-sccn-token-activity-6826862025122168833-sS9U/
PXBSC:  https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tokpie_meet-the-paradox-nft-bsc-pxbsc-token-activity-6834476088618565633-axBa
PEECH: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6797181290329313280
Coinstox's CEO: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6776126388576624640/.
DIRTY:  https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6795703391017426944 (https://t.me/BillyWizz)

[holydarkness]

Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:

1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.

2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!

Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.

Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.

[...]

Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.

BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.

As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.

Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised a volume assistance that's free for forever, which should at least trasnlates for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.

I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?

Edit: adding and changing some words to better match the terms raised by TOKPIE on the email and the situation happened.

[BTCITA187]

ok

Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:

1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.

2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!

Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.

Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.

[...]

Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.

BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.

As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.

Sure, kindly check these screenshots proving that the service was provided (+ many trackers passed), max efforts applied, but due to his low project quality (refused to provide team section) he could not pass CG
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/d7LS2qP
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/QDCYS0v
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/sySrtWM

Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised volume assistance that's free for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.

The logic is simple. The Green exchange listed its ERC20 GREEN token on Tokpie (on April 25) and Tokpie made what was offered (screenshots above). Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9
Proving link on their telegram: https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417. But, Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. CryptorClub decided to use it as an occasion to get money back despite a lot of work made for him. Shame man.
Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.

I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?

Agree with you! but our Btt thread is not abandoned and part of the positive feedbacks provided above are fresh

[LinksMe.ga]

ok

Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:

1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.

2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!

Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.

Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.

[...]

Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.

BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.

As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.

Sure, kindly check these screenshots proving that the service was provided (+ many trackers passed), max efforts applied, but due to his low project quality (refused to provide team section) he could not pass CG
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/d7LS2qP
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/QDCYS0v
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/sySrtWM

Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised volume assistance that's free for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.

The logic is simple. The Green exchange listed its ERC20 GREEN token on Tokpie (on April 25) and Tokpie made what was offered (screenshots above). Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9
Proving link on their telegram: https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417. But, Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. CryptorClub decided to use it as an occasion to get money back despite a lot of work made for him. Shame man.
Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.

I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?

Agree with you! but our Btt thread is not abandoned and part of the positive feedbacks provided above are fresh

The Matic Network and GrandpaGreen (absolutely different token) is not related at all to this thread!

Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore.

Lie, that could NOT be provided technically. They provide trading until this topic was created. GREEN token always has erc-20 standard on Ethereum and nothing was changed!
WE NEVER ASK to provide trading volume on Matic network. GREEN is not old - is live token in Ethereum network, that can be deposited/withdrawed from/to Matic Network as any other ERC-20 standard token.
We ask to add Matic contract address on CG, and they say no problem. Letter below
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
So Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network is also lie, because they agree to add it on the stage of negotiation.

his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore

means, that from moment of Bitcointalk topic creation? Right? All worked good(for ETH pair) until letters in December? Because was no letters regarding problems with Matic before. By the way, you agree to work with it on stage of negotiations.
So if service can't be provided, why still no refund?

Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9

Lie.
GREEN Token was never changed. We don't have to inform about any other tokens we launched on other networks and GrandpaGreen (GGREEN - is absolutely other token with other unique name and ticker) and its not related to this topic!

Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9

Other thing, that any user with his any ERC-20 token launched on Ethereum can deposit/withdraw it to Matic network, and there it has another contract address. So this is official GREEN token address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81

(NOT TELLING to Tokpie) ... running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9

Lie.
We talk our token can be deposited to Matic from the start.
Here they agree to add Matic address to CoinGecko
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
And they personally provide screenshot, where was mentioned Matic.

Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8

The both ways emails here
https://i.ibb.co/SfKGw9j/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-00-46-13-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Here is request about exactly this Matic address
https://i.ibb.co/MDPhHM4/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-47-25-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Here is response, that no problem, they can add it
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
After that they made post on their blog, mentioning Matic and original contract address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81
https://i.ibb.co/F4XLTjv/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-59-35-Tokpie-Green-Exchange-is-SCAM-and-Grandpa-Green-Token-is-SCAM.png
Link on post: https://tokpie.io/blog/trade-green-exchange-token/

Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.

Lie.
About notification response in previous block (At it was not change but possibility of any token). And its not related to this topic.
ERC20 (Green Token) GREEN was launched on ethereum and Its contract address:
0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544
Its name and network was never changed
Because its technically impossible nor to change name nor to change network.
This token still alive and can be: Deposited, Withdrawed, Transferred

Anyway Nor GREEN (as token, that has Matic possibility) Nor GrandpaGreen (that is absolutely other token) not related to this topic at all.

Your team NOT make listing of ethereum erc-20 GREEN token with address (0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544) on:
CoinGecko
Etherscan
CoinMarketCap
Forever free volume rejected (ETH/WBTC/USDT - Ethereum mainnet)

Please focus on that.

1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25)

We got listing service on Tokpie (what has no priority) with forever free volume, but not on (CG,CMC, Etherscan - that has priority)
In May we first time ask about 50% refund

2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first.

Lie.
First we ask them twice to get 50% refund to close this question. In May and in December
Only then CryptorClub post topic on Bitcointalk.
Then they wrote in Telegram, screenshot in starter post, that they delist token from everywhere - and already delist it from Tokpie!
100% refund asked now After they reject 50% refund proposal twice, in May and in December, when rejected volume assistance and on actual time delisted from Tokpie.
And because spent a lot of time right now including this topic work.

- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?

Lie.
We also already asked about 50% refund first time in May.
https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Also was letters in July and Aug with volume problems. Late Aug letter you ignored.
The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko.
The second reason - is trial to trust to Tokpie

(refused to provide team section) he could not pass CG

About team publishing they not ask on the start and took money to list in 72 Hours.
Also they propose to publish fake team and brilliantly edit their email screenshot.
Original one:
https://i.ibb.co/2Pq1hKY/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-42-54-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Their fake/edited screenshot

Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8

CryptorClub were exchanging emails with Tokpie team on April, which emails can be summed as that Tokpie promised a promotion, free lifetime volume assistance, and listing on CG, CMC, etc. within 24-72 hours after the payment, which set us roughly around the end of April 2021 at the latest to see all of the deals to be completed. So why do they waited until December, more than 7 months, to report the failed deal? I'm curious if there are other exchanges of emails between April and December.

Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this

https://i.ibb.co/48Ww2FL/1.png

Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.

There was letters between these gap, with such topics (not so important for our opinion):
50% refund in May
They tried to boost volume, and convinced that fail with CG would be compensating with free volume, to have more chance to be listed in future
https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Than we not control process and find in July, that stopped volume assistance.
They renew it after request, on that moment on three pairs
In early Aug was few letters about BNB pair possibility
They request with additional payments for this
In late Aug we ask about check their volume trading assistance, wasn't stable
They ignored it
Than we not control the volume assistance
and checkup it in Dec - two pairs from three was not active
and Coingecko isn't possible during their last emails at all they changed/add new rules and ask about new money depositing for volume boosting seems ask about new 950$ for CG form update.
Here is the full letter, because on previous screenshot only part visible
https://i.ibb.co/p4dJ2TC/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-04-44-18-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
You may see, that additional services payments for updates needed (you may see its not purple, added specially) CMC(950$) + CG(950$)
and only after at least CG(950$) they will update etherscan.

And after all of this, they delisted GREEN from Tokpie and post, that they something technically can't here on Bitcointalk.

his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore.

Shame on me

The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko. Shame on me
The second reason - is tried to trust to Tokpie, that with volume, that can do something. Shame on me

[BTCITA187]

ok

Hello guys, we completely don't agree with the blaming man!
CryptorClub cheated Tokpie and its users in two ways:

1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25): https://tokpie.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019702238-The-Green-Token-GREEN-Listed-on-Tokpie
and had not made any blames until now. Why is he blamed now? Because he changed the token network from Ethereum to the Matik that has never been supported by Tokpie.

2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first. When we refused to satisfy such a ridiculous request, he wrote this post and requested a 50% refund.
This man is a blackmailer!

Regarding listing on trackers, we made everything from our side, but this man simply could not satisfy trackers' requirements in terms of his project quality.

Bottom line.
- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?
- Ask yourself why Tokpie has already listed over 120 projects for the last 12 months and only this man is blaming us?
- We kindly ask bitcointalk's admins to close this fake blaming post and red flag CryptorClub user.

[...]

Now that both party is here, discussion and investigation should be easier.

BTCITA187, I'd like to give you a mind-blowing information: email screenshot works both ways. Just like how CryptorClub could provide history of email exchanges between them and TOKPIE, you can too.

As you claimed that they have been silent since 25 April, and only now started to complain in order to blackmail a refund, can you provide a screenshot of email history indicating that it is indeed true that your last email with them is as how they provide in the evidence, and there were not any other emails in between April and December, whether from their side complaining about the broken agreement, or from you asking anything --thus, proving and favoring your side that you've delivered the product as promised and there were no issue up to earlier this month.

Sure, kindly check these screenshots proving that the service was provided (+ many trackers passed), max efforts applied, but due to his low project quality (refused to provide team section) he could not pass CG
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/d7LS2qP
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/QDCYS0v
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/sySrtWM

Second, is there a logical, acceptable, or whatever reason you can provide that explains why you stopped the lifetime volume assistance support? No matter who blackmailed who --I'd like to point out that YOUC, your partner, is also blackmailing CryptorClub, threatening that they'll have a very bad review that'll appear on google's top result-- a deal is a deal, you promised volume assistance that's free for as long as the project live. Not only that, as per their claim, you also failed to deliver the promise where they'll be listed on CoinGecko, CMC, etc.

The logic is simple. The Green exchange listed its ERC20 GREEN token on Tokpie (on April 25) and Tokpie made what was offered (screenshots above). Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9
Proving link on their telegram: https://t.me/greencoinexchange/417. But, Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore. CryptorClub decided to use it as an occasion to get money back despite a lot of work made for him. Shame man.
Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.

I couldn't care less about what other project said about you in the past. There are a lot of projects that started good and left the stage in the years that follow. Like YOUC, for example, and how their thread is now abandoned. So, what is your version for these two accusation points I state above?

Agree with you! but our Btt thread is not abandoned and part of the positive feedbacks provided above are fresh

The Matic Network and GrandpaGreen (absolutely different token) is not related at all to this thread!

Green Exchange (GrandpaGreen) Lie:
It does relate to the issue. You stopped to support Green token ERC20 (0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544). No mention of it on your web (screenshots below): https://greencoin.online/ So how do you think we can support a token if the project itself DOESN't SUPPORT it, and you DON’t RELATE TO it anymore.
Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW
Screenshot 2: https://ibb.co/R4VRyyy
Screenshot 3: https://ibb.co/JxgrD7d
Screenshot 4: https://ibb.co/XY8HnXV
Screenshot 5: https://ibb.co/WsJspqw
Screenshot 6: https://ibb.co/whnBJzZ

Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network (and CryptorClub knows that), so vol service and even trading his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore.

Lie, that could NOT be provided technically. They provide trading until this topic was created. GREEN token always has erc-20 standard on Ethereum and nothing was changed!
WE NEVER ASK to provide trading volume on Matic network. GREEN is not old - is live token in Ethereum network, that can be deposited/withdrawed from/to Matic Network as any other ERC-20 standard token.
We ask to add Matic contract address on CG, and they say no problem. Letter below
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
So Tokpie had never been supporting the Matic network is also lie, because they agree to add it on the stage of negotiation.


Green Exchnage (GrandpaGreen) Lie:
Look at the screenshot carefully https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png: we showed you how other projects add other token addresses to their CG page. It doesn’t mean that we could or can list Matic tokens on Tokpie.

his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore

means, that from moment of Bitcointalk topic creation? Right? All worked good(for ETH pair) until letters in December? Because was no letters regarding problems with Matic before. By the way, you agree to work with it on stage of negotiations.
So if service can't be provided, why still no refund?


Show screenshot where we agreed or promised to list your MATIK token on exchange!!!
This stage of negotiations shows an example that an additional token address can be added to CG, but it doesn’t prove that we promised you to list Matic tokens on Tokpie. We never did it!

Then, Green exchange changed (NOT TELLING to Tokpie) its token to the new one GrandpaGreen (GGREEN) running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9

Lie.
GREEN Token was never changed. We don't have to inform about any other tokens we launched on other networks and GrandpaGreen (GGREEN - is absolutely other token with other unique name and ticker) and its not related to this topic!

Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9

Other thing, that any user with his any ERC-20 token launched on Ethereum can deposit/withdraw it to Matic network, and there it has another contract address. So this is official GREEN token address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81

Perfect! You confirm that your official token is a Matic token (absolutely different from the one that you listed on Tokpie). So, once again how can we continue to list your old (not supported) token? Moreover, how dare you ask a REFUND for the services that were provided for your ERC20 token and infiltrate us now with that thread.

(NOT TELLING to Tokpie) ... running on Matic network. Proving screenshot: https://ibb.co/ZBhnyk9

Lie.
We talk our token can be deposited to Matic from the start.
Here they agree to add Matic address to CoinGecko
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
And they personally provide screenshot, where was mentioned Matic.

Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8

[/quote]

Look at the screenshot again: https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png we show you how Matic address can be added on CG. It doesn’t mean that we can list Matic token!


The both ways emails here
https://i.ibb.co/SfKGw9j/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-00-46-13-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Here is request about exactly this Matic address
https://i.ibb.co/MDPhHM4/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-47-25-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Here is response, that no problem, they can add it
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
After that they made post on their blog, mentioning Matic and original contract address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81
https://i.ibb.co/F4XLTjv/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-59-35-Tokpie-Green-Exchange-is-SCAM-and-Grandpa-Green-Token-is-SCAM.png
Link on post: https://tokpie.io/blog/trade-green-exchange-token/
[/quote]



Mentioning your Matic token in decryption is NOT the same as listing it! We never said to you that we can list MATIC token!

Moreover, the fact that he did not notify us about such a vital network change means that he cheated us.

Lie.
About notification response in previous block (At it was not change but possibility of any token). And its not related to this topic.
ERC20 (Green Token) GREEN was launched on ethereum and Its contract address:
0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544
Its name and network was never changed
Because its technically impossible nor to change name nor to change network.
This token still alive and can be: Deposited, Withdrawed, Transferred

Anyway Nor GREEN (as token, that has Matic possibility) Nor GrandpaGreen (that is absolutely other token) not related to this topic at all.

Your team NOT make listing of ethereum erc-20 GREEN token with address (0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544) on:
CoinGecko
Etherscan
CoinMarketCap
Forever free volume rejected (ETH/WBTC/USDT - Ethereum mainnet)

Please focus on that.


Look at this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376009.msg58705196#msg58705196 We made all steps to provide your ERC20 token with all promised services. But because of your inability to improve your web, some trackers refused to accept you. Who Compensate us all these efforts? You can migrate to any token that you want or even close your fake project, but it does not mean that we must pay you any refund.

1. He got the listing service a long time ago (April 25)

We got listing service on Tokpie (what has no priority) with forever free volume, but not on (CG,CMC, Etherscan - that has priority)
In May we first time ask about 50% refund

2. So, he decided to blackmail us by requiring a refund of 100% first.

Lie.
First we ask them twice to get 50% refund to close this question. In May and in December
Only then CryptorClub post topic on Bitcointalk.
Then they wrote in Telegram, screenshot in starter post, that they delist token from everywhere - and already delist it from Tokpie!
100% refund asked now After they reject 50% refund proposal twice, in May and in December, when rejected volume assistance and on actual time delisted from Tokpie.
And because spent a lot of time right now including this topic work.


Of course, we delist your token because you stopped mentioning your ERC20 token on your web.
No mention: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW
No mention: https://ibb.co/R4VRyyy
No mention: https://ibb.co/JxgrD7d
No mention: https://ibb.co/XY8HnXV
No mention: https://ibb.co/WsJspqw
No mention: https://ibb.co/whnBJzZ

- Ask yourself why CryptorClub has been silent since April 25?

Lie.
We also already asked about 50% refund first time in May.
https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Also was letters in July and Aug with volume problems. Late Aug letter you ignored.
The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko.
The second reason - is trial to trust to Tokpie

(refused to provide team section) he could not pass CG

About team publishing they not ask on the start and took money to list in 72 Hours.
Also they propose to publish fake team and brilliantly edit their email screenshot.
Original one:
https://i.ibb.co/2Pq1hKY/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-42-54-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Their fake/edited screenshot

Screenshot 1: https://ibb.co/X3g9YS8

What's are you talking about. Nothing edited! Look again https://i.ibb.co/2Pq1hKY/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-42-54-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png to see that all ways were offered to you to solve the problem.

CryptorClub were exchanging emails with Tokpie team on April, which emails can be summed as that Tokpie promised a promotion, free lifetime volume assistance, and listing on CG, CMC, etc. within 24-72 hours after the payment, which set us roughly around the end of April 2021 at the latest to see all of the deals to be completed. So why do they waited until December, more than 7 months, to report the failed deal? I'm curious if there are other exchanges of emails between April and December.

Further, TOKPIE's reply on this part of email gave an impression to me that CryptorClub missed a step or two, I'd really appreciate if either side can give an information about this



Given CryptorClub is currently temporarily banned from the forum for incentivizing post, I understood that his reply will be delayed for at least until January 2022 and LinksMe.ga is jumping in to fill the position, I'll appreciate if LinksMe.ga can answer and shed some light into the matters I asked.

There was letters between these gap, with such topics (not so important for our opinion):
50% refund in May
They tried to boost volume, and convinced that fail with CG would be compensating with free volume, to have more chance to be listed in future
https://i.ibb.co/LgrTwQh/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-22-35-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Than we not control process and find in July, that stopped volume assistance.
They renew it after request, on that moment on three pairs
In early Aug was few letters about BNB pair possibility
They request with additional payments for this
In late Aug we ask about check their volume trading assistance, wasn't stable
They ignored it
Than we not control the volume assistance
and checkup it in Dec - two pairs from three was not active
and Coingecko isn't possible during their last emails at all they changed/add new rules and ask about new money depositing for volume boosting seems ask about new 950$ for CG form update.
Here is the full letter, because on previous screenshot only part visible
https://i.ibb.co/p4dJ2TC/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-04-44-18-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
You may see, that additional services payments for updates needed (you may see its not purple, added specially) CMC(950$) + CG(950$)
and only after at least CG(950$) they will update etherscan.

And after all of this, they delisted GREEN from Tokpie and post, that they something technically can't here on Bitcointalk.

his old GREEN token could NOT be provided technically anymore.

Shame on me

The first reason, why we wait, that this volume assistance can be positive in long term for possibility to be listed on CoinGecko. Shame on me
The second reason - is tried to trust to Tokpie, that with volume, that can do something. Shame on me

So, you confirm that service was ok. But then, you decided that is better to blackmail money from us and abandon your ERC20 token.

[LinksMe.ga]

Perfect! You confirm that your official token is a Matic token (absolutely different from the one that you listed on Tokpie). So, once again how can we continue to list your old (not supported) token? Moreover, how dare you ask a REFUND for the services that were provided for your ERC20 token and infiltrate us now with that thread.

Lie.
You are not provided service! And know about Matic (and its absolutely different address) from the start, and mentioned on your blog - is not an argument.
Fact - you not provided CG, CMC, Etherscan.

Of course, we delist your token because you stopped mentioning your ERC20 token on your web.
No mention: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW

You delist token from Tokpie - True - Please make refund

Lie.
Its token ALIVE, man, and you can find places, where it mentioned.
No mention: https://ibb.co/WtPJnXW - On the first screenshot, you provided you may see huge green button that follows to page, that entire related to token.
The reason why its not traded on eth, because of crazy commissions for gas in Ethereum. You trying abandon any ERC-20 token on Ethereum.
Its tradable and alive! And its not old!
You have captured different part of site, where token not mentioned, its not an argument to stop service.
You complete delist token - refund, please!

What's are you talking about. Nothing edited!

Lie.
I provide both screenshots to see your deleted lines.

So, you confirm that service was ok. But then, you decided that is better to blackmail money from us and abandon your ERC20 token.

Lie.
It's not ok! It's you abandon our token.
Sir, sorry that I'm again trying to focus you on whole post. There is absolutely no arguments on each lie that we post and again generated new lie.

[BTCITA187]

Perfect! You confirm that your official token is a Matic token (absolutely different from the one that you listed on Tokpie). So, once again how can we continue to list your old (not supported) token? Moreover, how dare you ask a REFUND for the services that were provided for your ERC20 token and infiltrate us now with that thread.

Lie.
You are not provided service! And know about Matic (and its absolutely different address) from the start, and mentioned on your blog - is not an argument.
Fact - you not provided CG, CMC, Etherscan.

Of course, we delist your token because you stopped mentioning your ERC20 token on your web.

You delist token from Tokpie - True - Please make refund

Lie.
Its token ALIVE, man, and you can find places, where it mentioned. The reason why its not traded on eth, because of crazy commissions for gas in Ethereum. You trying abandon any ERC-20 token on Ethereum.
Its tradable and alive! And its not old!
You have captured different part of site, where token not mentioned, its not an argument to stop service.
You complete delist token - refund, please!

What's are you talking about. Nothing edited!

Lie.
I provide both screenshots to see your deleted lines.

So, you confirm that service was ok. But then, you decided that is better to blackmail money from us and abandon your ERC20 token.

Lie.
It's not ok!
Sir, sorry that I'm again trying to focus you on whole post. There is absolutely no arguments on each lie that we post and again generated new lie.

1. Where is the screenshot proving that we promised you to list your MATIC TOKEN on our exchange? The deal was about only your ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544.
2. Where are any references on your website to the ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 that we listed as was agreed with you?

Clearly state on your website https://greencoin.online/ that your official token is ERC20 token: 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 and we restore your token trading.
Of course, if your goal is just to blackmail us and threaten us, you can continue making your fake accusation.  

[LinksMe.ga]

1. Where is the screenshot proving that we promised you to list your MATIC TOKEN on our exchange? The deal was about only your ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544.

Here is request about exactly this Matic address
https://i.ibb.co/MDPhHM4/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-47-25-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
Response
https://i.ibb.co/BV60PCM/Screenshot-2021-12-14-at-05-24-45-GREEN-price-market-cap-on-Etherscan-CMC-Coin-Gecko-Trading-View-an.png
After that on your blog, mentioning Matic and original contract address on Matic 0x8a4001fd666be272605c56bb956d11a46200db81
https://i.ibb.co/F4XLTjv/Screenshot-2021-12-13-at-22-59-35-Tokpie-Green-Exchange-is-SCAM-and-Grandpa-Green-Token-is-SCAM.png
Link on post: https://tokpie.io/blog/trade-green-exchange-token/

2. Whare are any references on your website to the ERC20 token 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 that we listed as was agreed with you?

https://greencoin.online/token_status/
you may see that address there.

Clearly state on your website https://greencoin.online/ that your official token is ERC20 token: 0x5e68801a5dda8671051006eb2920ffe9cd553544 and we restore your token trading.
Of course, if your goal is just to blackmail us and threaten us, you can continue making your fake accusation.  

Its our official token address on ethereum mainnet! Mainpage edited

Don't try to use name "blackmail" and "fake accusation" of our ask to make 50% refund of your fail with:
CoinGecko, CoinMarketCap, Etherscan
reject trading volume
and delisting token after that