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December 20, 2021, 09:35:28 AM
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Try and find out if depositing before withdrawal is a requirement,  if it is then you have no choice than to do it . Get to know if other people have experience same thing thing. If its not a requirement to deposit before withdrawal , then you can follow up to get back your money.

I see you didn't read at all that the money was withdrawn!
It wasn't about the deposit, but the casino comes up with additional conditions just to discourage users from withdrawing their winnings.
This is very unethical behavior, but I am glad that Bitcointalk has the power to criticize and eliminate such behavior.

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December 20, 2021, 12:10:52 PM
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It's probably got nothing to do with your forum post..that solved the problem. The casinos are not too worried about people posting "complaints" like this on a public forum, because they know most of this is butthurt gamblers that lost money and then they are fabricating issues like this to lash out.

In most cases problems like this is resolved in a few days.. but people do not want to wait.. they think Support staff are just there to attend to their one problem. (The smaller casinos are worts, because they have less staff)  Roll Eyes

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December 20, 2021, 02:05:19 PM
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It's probably got nothing to do with your forum post..that solved the problem. The casinos are not too worried about people posting "complaints" like this on a public forum, because they know most of this is butthurt gamblers that lost money and then they are fabricating issues like this to lash out.

In most cases problems like this is resolved in a few days.. but people do not want to wait.. they think Support staff are just there to attend to their one problem. (The smaller casinos are worts, because they have less staff)  Roll Eyes

For a well-established casino, it's not but for a new casino it is a big deal, they do not want to be put in the spotlight in the early stage of their campaign here in Bitcointalk it will derail their roadmap and all their plans here so they will attend to it and try to solve it as soon as possible, for a well-established casino people will continue to play and will just consider it as normal sometimes miscommunication.


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December 20, 2021, 05:41:12 PM
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Seems to me that this kind of things come regularly but you cannot really call it deception or a scam if they mention that this is how they do it in their rules. It just looks like you did not bother reading up on that before you used their services. So really, this thread has nothing to do with them paying you, but rather this is a thread about you complaining about something because you did not read the rules.
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December 20, 2021, 06:10:51 PM
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I don't want to make an opinion whether it's based on this forum or not but what is certain is actually something like this can't be predicted that the casino pays or not if you look at the time in minutes, I feel they need time to make your withdrawal or transaction processed .
if it's only 1x24 hours you have to wonder if they pay or not.
However, there is nothing wrong with creating a complaint forum, but you must first see how long your transaction takes to process.
Btw congrats on your claim
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December 20, 2021, 07:46:10 PM
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The truth is sometimes as victims we need to speak out and seek help from other forum members as the site will get to resolve the issue on time because they will not want to tamper with their reputation or lose the interest of the members of this forum.

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December 20, 2021, 07:53:09 PM
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I don't want to make an opinion whether it's based on this forum or not but what is certain is actually something like this can't be predicted that the casino pays or not if you look at the time in minutes, I feel they need time to make your withdrawal or transaction processed .
if it's only 1x24 hours you have to wonder if they pay or not.
However, there is nothing wrong with creating a complaint forum, but you must first see how long your transaction takes to process.
Btw congrats on your claim
Most casino that just starting do tend to use manual transaction for withdrawal processes and that's a fact but if it takes longer than expected from what they said then you should really wonder. If you don't want these kind of hassles then better to use casinos that are already fast enough on this kind of transactions or services.
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December 20, 2021, 11:53:41 PM
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I don't want to make an opinion whether it's based on this forum or not but what is certain is actually something like this can't be predicted that the casino pays or not if you look at the time in minutes, I feel they need time to make your withdrawal or transaction processed .
if it's only 1x24 hours you have to wonder if they pay or not.
However, there is nothing wrong with creating a complaint forum, but you must first see how long your transaction takes to process.
Btw congrats on your claim
Most casino that just starting do tend to use manual transaction for withdrawal processes and that's a fact but if it takes longer than expected from what they said then you should really wonder. If you don't want these kind of hassles then better to use casinos that are already fast enough on this kind of transactions or services.
Why would really be stressing out yourself on dealing with no known or less popular sites? If you dont like headaches then better to mind off on sticking with those popular or known sites.
Issues and complaints would be always present and it is just on matter on how they would be resolving those problems and able to maintain their good reputation but if it turns out
that they arent really putting up attention on resolving issues then you should anticipate that you might be dealing with a bad or a scammy site

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December 21, 2021, 01:40:32 AM
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I claimed 0.1etc and got lucky on crash and won 1etc. When I tried to cash out, lol they asked me to deposit 0.1etc and roll over 3 times. This is nowhere mentioned in their original thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375243.0.

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Thank you for sharing this here mate, I checked the site and it looks like a not so trustworthy site.

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and because you created a Thread here in Bitcointalk that they respond quickly? (Because they knew how large  player they can lose if this comes long) but they are something to stay away , gamblers knows what is the behavior of legit and scam site.

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December 21, 2021, 09:15:11 AM
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The truth is sometimes as victims we need to speak out and seek help from other forum members as the site will get to resolve the issue on time because they will not want to tamper with their reputation or lose the interest of the members of this forum.
Yes. Sometimes the pressure that's being put on them makes them easy to move and solve it as soon as possible since there's the community that tackles about their issue.
But if there's no noise from those users that have been experiencing sort of confusing rules about their bonuses and promos. They won't take an action on it as if they've already decided and no one can change it.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 21, 2021, 09:30:00 AM
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Seems to me that this kind of things come regularly but you cannot really call it deception or a scam if they mention that this is how they do it in their rules. It just looks like you did not bother reading up on that before you used their services. So really, this thread has nothing to do with them paying you, but rather this is a thread about you complaining about something because you did not read the rules.
Know what happens regularly ? that is People like you who are not reading the whole Post and replying as If he knew everything  because the OP clearly mentioned that he already received His funds so what is he did not Read from the rules?


Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.


The site pays Him after creating this thread here in Bitcointalk , meaning the team acknowledge the importance of their reputation here in forum , because if OP really made a mistake surely the team will depend their side and will never give Him his funds.

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December 21, 2021, 09:39:00 AM
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I claimed 0.1etc and got lucky on crash and won 1etc. When I tried to cash out, lol they asked me to deposit 0.1etc and roll over 3 times. This is nowhere mentioned in their original thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375243.0.

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I am waiting for my cash out and I will soon open a scam accusation against them if I have to.
I suggest you to stay away from this casino who is not even willing to pay 37$, guess what can happen if you play and win big there.

Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.



From my experience with many crypto casinos, you have been very lucky to cash out a win from a free bonus claim. Whether it was due to the forum or not. Of course a post here generates some publicity which can be helpful, but many casinos also ignore this very often.
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You are right forum is a powerful community but sometimes a mistake can lead to a disaster just like what happened in Best Exchange project which is now a reputable project. Well in regards with that gambling site I think that's a bad move that they try first to not give you the payment and only pay after you posted it here. I think some users here would already have a bad impression to it which is not good

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December 21, 2021, 11:34:03 AM
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You are right forum is a powerful community but sometimes a mistake can lead to a disaster just like what happened in Best Exchange project which is now a reputable project. Well in regards with that gambling site I think that's a bad move that they try first to not give you the payment and only pay after you posted it here. I think some users here would already have a bad impression to it which is not good
Indeed. That will only make us not want to play on their site and search for the other casino that wants to care for their members. They do not care about their members until they make a thread and tell us how bad their services are. At least, it is our lesson to be more careful to deposit or use their bonuses, especially when we want to play on the new casino because we do not know if they have a good effort to grow their casino or they only want to scam people.

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December 21, 2021, 12:12:17 PM
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I just visited their official thread and it seemed like their reason was they "mistook" OP's withdrawal request for something else, OP might want to quote that at the end just to make sure that everyone is in context of what happened after they paid him. Still, as OP has said, who knows, his withdrawal may not have gone through without posting it here. Or maybe who knows, the mod may have just made a mistake after all, to err is human after all.

Although it is odd, I just visited their site and it seems like their help page is down or something though, it's not linked to anything.

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December 21, 2021, 12:12:37 PM
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I don't want to make an opinion whether it's based on this forum or not but what is certain is actually something like this can't be predicted that the casino pays or not if you look at the time in minutes, I feel they need time to make your withdrawal or transaction processed .
if it's only 1x24 hours you have to wonder if they pay or not.
However, there is nothing wrong with creating a complaint forum, but you must first see how long your transaction takes to process.
Btw congrats on your claim
Most casino that just starting do tend to use manual transaction for withdrawal processes and that's a fact but if it takes longer than expected from what they said then you should really wonder. If you don't want these kind of hassles then better to use casinos that are already fast enough on this kind of transactions or services.
it is a choice regardless of what you say it is the right thing but on the other hand actually things like this can be anticipated by choosing a casino that is really tested and not fake or not well known.
regardless of sending or not about the casino back to their reputation of course, they may not pay but they should rethink their reputation because it is impossible to sacrifice reputation in exchange for a small fee
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Good to hear that, some gambling site does not want to mess with the big community in the forum as one mistake, whether big or small, that would put their reputation at risk and when they have a bad reputation, that means goodbye to their business. If some gambling sites invest thousands of dollars advertising in the forum, that means they trust that the forum could help them grow their business.

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Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.



This forum is a big help if you have a good case against a casino, but if you are banned because of cheating and manipulation and you open an accusation, I doubt if this forum will help you the forum is fair and will not let anyone get scam and cheat its players, glad that you got your cash out it just proves that you have a case.

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December 21, 2021, 07:41:46 PM
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However in the forum even if there are some accounts that may try to shill for a casino a great deal of the reviews you can find here are real, and if a casino garners a bad reputation here then they are bound to lose potential customers so many casinos try to solve whatever issue that appears here in the forum against their service as soon as possible.
^ As the part the I bolded above was I agree with, it is better to trust a review that comes from the community because we know they are truly experienced their review that they gave than comparing to a review service platform which is a self-review by the author and which we don't know if all statement is true. In this forum, we know about the legitimacy background check per review and it is surely authentic.
However, if you have been scammed and the casino did not have to appear here, that is how hard to find who is responsible for the fraudulent activity, the only thing is the awareness to other gamblers to avoid that casino.
And the best part is that this not only applies to casinos, it applies to any service that deals with cryptocurrencies, after all the community that uses the forum comes from all the world and uses all kind of different services as each one of our needs is unique.

This means that there are bound to be a lot of reviews from the most popular services, and even if there are not you can always ask the community and see if someone has something to say about a particular service you wanted to use, by doing this you reduce significantly the chances you could be scammed as you will stay away from those service providers which are not up to the standards of the community.

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December 21, 2021, 07:47:14 PM
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maybe their rules have changed ,just try to deposit 0.1 ETC and follow their rules ,if you are right and follow the rules but they don't pay your winnings ,you can complain to community about them ETC.casino of scam ! get a bonus there should be rules that you have to do it as I have seen many times ,it is small chance that free money from the casino can always be withdraw without a deposit !

This would have been a wrong suggestion IMO because whether rules changed or not they should keep up with information to users who are patronising them so that it will be a choice to play or not and you know what you are going in for but not to keep mute on certain rules is looking like a trap.

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