This is why I love this forum...and we should make it more powerful

[stomachgrowls]

maybe their rules have changed ,just try to deposit 0.1 ETC and follow their rules ,if you are right and follow the rules but they don't pay your winnings ,you can complain to community about them ETC.casino of scam ! get a bonus there should be rules that you have to do it as I have seen many times ,it is small chance that free money from the casino can always be withdraw without a deposit !

This would have been a wrong suggestion IMO because whether rules changed or not they should keep up with information to users who are patronising them so that it will be a choice to play or not and you know what you are going in for but not to keep mute on certain rules is looking like a trap.

Making out changes without letting know those players would really be not appealing on most peoples eyes which its true that it is somewhat like a trap.Good for those who do make out wins but for those

who experience losses would really changed up their impressions if  they do know those sudden changes but without having a word.Speaking of those free coins and able to make out withdrawal without

having to deposit then its odd or a bit surprising that there are casinos who do really make out such rule but i do still highly doubt on that.

[Ryker1]

maybe their rules have changed ,just try to deposit 0.1 ETC and follow their rules ,if you are right and follow the rules but they don't pay your winnings ,you can complain to community about them ETC.casino of scam ! get a bonus there should be rules that you have to do it as I have seen many times ,it is small chance that free money from the casino can always be withdraw without a deposit !

This would have been a wrong suggestion IMO because whether rules changed or not they should keep up with information to users who are patronising them so that it will be a choice to play or not and you know what you are going in for but not to keep mute on certain rules is looking like a trap.

Making out changes without letting know those players would really be not appealing on most peoples eyes which its true that it is somewhat like a trap.
^[snip]

Well, I think gambling casinos should have a forum discussion where to update announcements and promos. Changing rule is very crucial to the players and it could be a trap to them --this should be announced in public like if they had an announcement thread on this forum but if they don't have, that is intended just because of their own benefits. OP was right, a good thing we have a forum where we could patronize those gambling casinos regarding their updates and changing rules because when rules were implemented it should be a rule.

[ultrloa]

Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.

This forum is a big help if you have a good case against a casino, but if you are banned because of cheating and manipulation and you open an accusation, I doubt if this forum will help you the forum is fair and will not let anyone get scam and cheat its players, glad that you got your cash out it just proves that you have a case.

I think the case is close already and Op got his small winning amount. Although, it's still questionable if he did something wrong or the casino did something wrong because someone claimed that the rules are changed or perhaps the Op didn't read rules that's why there's a little misunderstanding.
But the way the casino asked some deposit first is like a scammers would do although the casino did pay Op at the end. So it means that the casino really care about their reputation over to a small amount.

[Oilacris]

Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.

This forum is a big help if you have a good case against a casino, but if you are banned because of cheating and manipulation and you open an accusation, I doubt if this forum will help you the forum is fair and will not let anyone get scam and cheat its players, glad that you got your cash out it just proves that you have a case.

I think the case is close already and Op got his small winning amount. Although, it's still questionable if he did something wrong or the casino did something wrong because someone claimed that the rules are changed or perhaps the Op didn't read rules that's why there's a little misunderstanding.
But the way the casino asked some deposit first is like a scammers would do although the casino did pay Op at the end. So it means that the casino really care about their reputation over to a small amount.

Thats what matter most is that the issue had got been resolved and not left on hanging when someone do really make out some complaints.The most important thing that it had been settled or fix.

Doesnt matter on which one is fault and its just worth that casino owner would really settle things up over on messing up their sites reputation.They arent that dumb on messing
up something on a small amount.

[Rengga Jati]

Glad to know that you finally can cash out your reward and get it for yours.
But in relation to the rewards or bonuses in certain gambling platforms, commonly, the platforms will ask us to make certain deposit in order to be able to cash out or do the withdrawal. Without any deposit, the step may be little bit difficult, moreover if there is in their Terms & Condition.

But if this is not exactly stated or explained in their sites, thread, channels, or other Terms & Condition, you should get your rights to cash out without depositing.

And about the help from this forum, yeah, I personally also acknowledge how powerful this forum is and the fear felt by some platforms or developers if they are accused of being scammed on this forum. of course they will do various things to keep their reputation good. And I also appreciate those platforms ETC.casino who has dared to complete their responsibilities.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't want to make an opinion whether it's based on this forum or not but what is certain is actually something like this can't be predicted that the casino pays or not if you look at the time in minutes, I feel they need time to make your withdrawal or transaction processed .
if it's only 1x24 hours you have to wonder if they pay or not.
However, there is nothing wrong with creating a complaint forum, but you must first see how long your transaction takes to process.
Btw congrats on your claim

Most casino that just starting do tend to use manual transaction for withdrawal processes and that's a fact but if it takes longer than expected from what they said then you should really wonder. If you don't want these kind of hassles then better to use casinos that are already fast enough on this kind of transactions or services.

You are right, and that is the reason why a withdrawal can be totally delayed, however, being from the forum it is natural that sites feel the pressure not to look bad, because a bad comment or thread on the site can be disastrous for the platform, if we take into account reputation, in the forum it represents everything, I think he was very lucky indeed, but for this it is always better to read the terms and conditions well, I was a person who did not read that and I clicked accept at once.

[michellee]

I don't want to make an opinion whether it's based on this forum or not but what is certain is actually something like this can't be predicted that the casino pays or not if you look at the time in minutes, I feel they need time to make your withdrawal or transaction processed .
if it's only 1x24 hours you have to wonder if they pay or not.
However, there is nothing wrong with creating a complaint forum, but you must first see how long your transaction takes to process.
Btw congrats on your claim

Most casino that just starting do tend to use manual transaction for withdrawal processes and that's a fact but if it takes longer than expected from what they said then you should really wonder. If you don't want these kind of hassles then better to use casinos that are already fast enough on this kind of transactions or services.

You are right, and that is the reason why a withdrawal can be totally delayed, however, being from the forum it is natural that sites feel the pressure not to look bad, because a bad comment or thread on the site can be disastrous for the platform, if we take into account reputation, in the forum it represents everything, I think he was very lucky indeed, but for this it is always better to read the terms and conditions well, I was a person who did not read that and I clicked accept at once.

If that casino is new, it will be good if they show a good response to us because they need to gain trust from us and one of those ways is by processing the withdrawal and will not take too long. Maybe it is okay if the process will take 1 hour to finish but if the confirming needs too long because the network has high traffic, the casino can not do anything. But if the process needs 1x24 hours, we can ask them why it takes so long, especially if we only want to withdraw less than $100.

[qory]

You are right forum is a powerful community but sometimes a mistake can lead to a disaster just like what happened in Best Exchange project which is now a reputable project. Well in regards with that gambling site I think that's a bad move that they try first to not give you the payment and only pay after you posted it here. I think some users here would already have a bad impression to it which is not good

Indeed. That will only make us not want to play on their site and search for the other casino that wants to care for their members. They do not care about their members until they make a thread and tell us how bad their services are. At least, it is our lesson to be more careful to deposit or use their bonuses, especially when we want to play on the new casino because we do not know if they have a good effort to grow their casino or they only want to scam people.

Yes but still some people will going to test and try their site but they won't get the full trust of the people and players because of what they have done before. The people never forgets that's why it is important that the site is transparent and honest since the start of their launch if they are really serious about building up a reputation in gambling industry.

[peter0425]

You are right forum is a powerful community but sometimes a mistake can lead to a disaster just like what happened in Best Exchange project which is now a reputable project. Well in regards with that gambling site I think that's a bad move that they try first to not give you the payment and only pay after you posted it here. I think some users here would already have a bad impression to it which is not good

Indeed. That will only make us not want to play on their site and search for the other casino that wants to care for their members. They do not care about their members until they make a thread and tell us how bad their services are. At least, it is our lesson to be more careful to deposit or use their bonuses, especially when we want to play on the new casino because we do not know if they have a good effort to grow their casino or they only want to scam people.

Yes but still some people will going to test and try their site but they won't get the full trust of the people and players because of what they have done before. The people never forgets that's why it is important that the site is transparent and honest since the start of their launch if they are really serious about building up a reputation in gambling industry.

This is why we are spreading the News mate because we wanted all the people inside this forum and even those people that we know to prevent from using such site.

Yes they may show interest but upon hearing from Us? they will run away and never play or deposit in this kind of sites.

Actually OP is Indeed good in sharing this because surely if he did not put threat in His message and did not put thread here? maybe he will not getting any amount from the site.

[TheEconomists]

I don't think you were paid because you made the publication here if you must tell us the truth. Have you done what they asked you to do before you were able to cash out? If you were able to cash out just because you made it public here then what will happen to those who are  not aware of this forum.

[AicecreaME]

I claimed 0.1etc and got lucky on crash and won 1etc. When I tried to cash out, lol they asked me to deposit 0.1etc and roll over 3 times. This is nowhere mentioned in their original thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375243.0.

Below are the proofs:





I am waiting for my cash out and I will soon open a scam accusation against them if I have to.
I suggest you to stay away from this casino who is not even willing to pay 37$, guess what can happen if you play and win big there.

Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.

Have you read their terms and conditions? If it is indicated in their TOS that you have to wager and deposit to claim your winning prize from the free spins, then you have to comply to be able to get your winnings. Otherwise, you will not be able to get any of it because it is in their policy. You have to follow their requirements. If it isn't originally stated in their TOS, maybe they have updated it without prior notice and that's completely legal. You should have read the whole policies to avoid confusion because it was possible that they include a disclaimer that they can change without updating their clients. I know some companies which have the same policy, but most of the time the companies really update their clients that they have changed and updated their agreement and proceed to ask the permission once again.

As a player, we should do our part to read everything that is stated in the contract, agreement, policy, or terms of service, whatever you may call it. So that in the future, we will have something to hold on to because we just didn't click the "I accept and agree" button, but also read and understood everything of its content. I know most of the time people just carelessly click that button because they are too lazy to read everything. But trust me, reading that, despite the long content will benefit you in the future most especially if that something is related to money or finances in general. Make reading a habit, like they say to avoid ignorance and future troubles.

[michellee]

You are right forum is a powerful community but sometimes a mistake can lead to a disaster just like what happened in Best Exchange project which is now a reputable project. Well in regards with that gambling site I think that's a bad move that they try first to not give you the payment and only pay after you posted it here. I think some users here would already have a bad impression to it which is not good

Indeed. That will only make us not want to play on their site and search for the other casino that wants to care for their members. They do not care about their members until they make a thread and tell us how bad their services are. At least, it is our lesson to be more careful to deposit or use their bonuses, especially when we want to play on the new casino because we do not know if they have a good effort to grow their casino or they only want to scam people.

Yes but still some people will going to test and try their site but they won't get the full trust of the people and players because of what they have done before. The people never forgets that's why it is important that the site is transparent and honest since the start of their launch if they are really serious about building up a reputation in gambling industry.

As long as they can be transparent and honest from the beginning, I am sure people will not have a problem because they can solve every problem that gamblers have. People will only see how they can solve the problem, no matter if they are new or old casinos because they will trust them so when the casino can resolve with good, I think people can trust them. Gaining trust from people is important and not many casinos can do that, even the first time they launched their site.

[nakamura12]

I don't think you were paid because you made the publication here if you must tell us the truth. Have you done what they asked you to do before you were able to cash out? If you were able to cash out just because you made it public here then what will happen to those who are  not aware of this forum.

The one who processed withdrawal is not the owner and the owner did explained that the site's staff confused the code that op used. It is stated by the casino owner that those who created an account on their site and used the promo code "bitcointalk" and luckily won big time or decent amount will be able to withdraw the funds without having to deposit a fixed amount. You can see the image provided by op that you must deposit 0.1 ETC and wager it three times. In the "Bitcointalk" promo code, that deposit and wager requirements is not applied or exemption from the requirements.

[Alisha-k]

Have you gone through their rules, terms and condition to be sure that it isn't indicated or is indicated there??

If it is then you have to abide by it to be able to get your winnings..
It's a good thing anyway that you got your cash regardless, just ensure to read through websites next time so you don't get into confusion.

[crzy]

Have you gone through their rules, terms and condition to be sure that it isn't indicated or is indicated there??

If it is then you have to abide by it to be able to get your winnings..
It's a good thing anyway that you got your cash regardless, just ensure to read through websites next time so you don't get into confusion.

Most probably he's right here and that's why the site processed his withdrawal, though its not that big but at least they make it right and hopefully not just because of this forum but also because they are really a legit. Though usually the site really ask first for you to wage some amount before you withdraw money, maybe this is just part of the rules but its good that OP was able to get that free money. Waiting for more experiences about this site and some reviews, I might try as well.

[onecall123]

Have you gone through their rules, terms and condition to be sure that it isn't indicated or is indicated there??

If it is then you have to abide by it to be able to get your winnings..
It's a good thing anyway that you got your cash regardless, just ensure to read through websites next time so you don't get into confusion.

Most probably he's right here and that's why the site processed his withdrawal, though its not that big but at least they make it right and hopefully not just because of this forum but also because they are really a legit. Though usually the site really ask first for you to wage some amount before you withdraw money, maybe this is just part of the rules but its good that OP was able to get that free money. Waiting for more experiences about this site and some reviews, I might try as well.

Almost all gambling sites are required to have wager requirements, but some casinos like ETC.casino read their users' inner feelings and implement them through their promotional programs. For belonging to this forum, there is no wager or additional requirements to withdraw our winnings. I really appreciate that.

ETC.casino dev confirms as well.

Hey
As far as I can see, your payment has already been processed. Technical support confused your promo code with another "Hashcity" promo code from our partner, for "Bitcointalk" we do not have a wager and additional requirements

Congratulations on your win!

The same thing happened to me. Through this post, I expressed my gratitude: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375243.msg58772186#msg58772186

[Sirait]

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congratulations to you for getting your winning money without having to deposit as they require. this forum has become the biggest supporter for those who are in the crypto ecosystem, you are using a nice trick by mentioning this forum in your conversation with the admin of etc.casino

[Vaskiy]

Our forum serves as a platform where more cryptocurrency related promotion takes place. When something goes wrong automatically this will destruct the reputation of the respective business. Thats the major reason why these gambling sites give the best support to its users when something is brought to the forum for discussion through scam accusation.

Forum is very powerful, and small mistakes from the gambling platform will affect the long term growth. The investors doesn't want this to happen, because the loss is being faced by them.

[wxa7115]

Our forum serves as a platform where more cryptocurrency related promotion takes place. When something goes wrong automatically this will destruct the reputation of the respective business. Thats the major reason why these gambling sites give the best support to its users when something is brought to the forum for discussion through scam accusation.

Forum is very powerful, and small mistakes from the gambling platform will affect the long term growth. The investors doesn't want this to happen, because the loss is being faced by them.

This is one of the things that makes this forum so powerful, when it comes to other platforms it is impossible to get any kind of long lasting effect on a service that scammed you because your voice very quickly is drown by many others that praise the casino, and in may instances those people are being paid by the casino to be promoted on social media.

But here in the forum it does not matter if you are a newbie, if you can present a solid case against a casino the rest of the community will back you up and the casino will have no option but to solve the issue or see their reputation forever ruined in the forum due to that issue.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't think you were paid because you made the publication here if you must tell us the truth. Have you done what they asked you to do before you were able to cash out? If you were able to cash out just because you made it public here then what will happen to those who are  not aware of this forum.

The one who processed withdrawal is not the owner and the owner did explained that the site's staff confused the code that op used. It is stated by the casino owner that those who created an account on their site and used the promo code "bitcointalk" and luckily won big time or decent amount will be able to withdraw the funds without having to deposit a fixed amount. You can see the image provided by op that you must deposit 0.1 ETC and wager it three times. In the "Bitcointalk" promo code, that deposit and wager requirements is not applied or exemption from the requirements.

This is a great clarification, because normally it works as a type of wagering in order to have a successful withdrawal, but since they are not demanding any wagering requirement it is likely that those who have benefited have that advantage, now not all casinos offer this ease of winning for bitcointalk members, we all know that there are great players here and people who bet big casinos, and this is a great stepping stone for any sports betting and gaming platform. In some casinos I have seen promotions that are won but you must have prerequisites for withdrawal, here the freedom is unique, also the owners chose LTC which is a great option for the fee for any withdrawal, since they are very cheap.