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December 12, 2021, 07:44:17 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
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December 12, 2021, 08:36:47 PM
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I will not advise anyone to borrow to invest in cryptocurrency, next year is still unpredictable and anything can happen and the market can go in whichever direction. What if you borrow to invest in cryptocurrency and the price crashed below your buy price and you end up losing you become indebted. Use only the funds you can afford to lose to buy crypto.
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December 12, 2021, 08:39:54 PM
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One can never be sure what bitcoin price will do.
The main rule on bitcoin investments is to never invest money you don't afford to lose (or keep locked for very long time).
So no, in most cases borrowing money for investing into bitcoin is not advised. If one does that, may be tempted more easier to panic-sell at a loss.

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December 12, 2021, 08:49:59 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Please don't.

Don't loan money that you'll use for investing in bitcoin. Yeah, we say buy bitcoin and hold. But it's not ideal that the money you're going to invest for buying bitcoin came from a loan.

It's a very volatile asset that you don't know if after buying, you'll get to see the part of its pump. Worse is that you just bought it and then the plummet comes and stays for quite a long time. How will you pay your loan if the current situation for you is you're on the loss.

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December 12, 2021, 08:58:28 PM
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high risk of loan money for any investment if you don't work then you can't pay it ,if you work and get finances it's still possible but with a loan for investment I think it's bad because we don't know for sure what the future will be occur and is a bad thoughts like digging for gold in the depths of the sea !

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December 12, 2021, 10:06:09 PM
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I don't think it's a great idea to borrow money and invest in any crytocurrency project.There is so much risk associated with it you can either fail or make it so it's much better to use your own money for investment,also don't forget to risk any amount that you can afford loosing any time you are investing to avoid loosing much.
 

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December 12, 2021, 10:36:24 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Please don't.

Don't loan money that you'll use for investing in bitcoin. Yeah, we say buy bitcoin and hold. But it's not ideal that the money you're going to invest for buying bitcoin came from a loan.

It's a very volatile asset that you don't know if after buying, you'll get to see the part of its pump. Worse is that you just bought it and then the plummet comes and stays for quite a long time. How will you pay your loan if the current situation for you is you're on the loss.

Just don't.


Yes but right now i know atleast 3 guys who will going to take loans to buy btc.
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December 12, 2021, 10:38:04 PM
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One of the first and most important principle that guides any investment is

'Invest only what you can afford to loose'.

Mind you, borrowing or loaning money, with or without profit rate is no way to go about investing. It doesn't agree with the stated principle above becuase in every way, the money isn't yours and as such, you've got to pay back. That sadly, isn't what you could afford to lose.

Diversifying might seem like a brilliant idea but in the world of crypto as we have it now, only bitcoin comes with some degree of certainty and even at that, the timing it would take to play into investors plan us very much uncertain.

Other investments in the crypto space might offer some chilling risk that won't even wave a signal before sweeping it all off. Don't ever be so quick yo think that you can borrow to invest, profit and pay back. Its a plan that could all end in your thoughts. Invest only what you can afford to loose of your money.
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December 12, 2021, 11:35:52 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH  

That's just gambling.

What if Bitcoin goes down 80% for a long time and it's time to pay your loan?

You should be able to invest in Bitcoin for the long term, if you have a loan payable at a specific date, you're just gambling that the price of Bitcoin will do something at a specific date in the future. No one knows that.

Also, you'll have to sell to pay back the loan. At what time do you sell?, you're trying to guess that as well. Also you'll have to consider the taxes you'll have to pay in that transaction.

Seems like a super risky move to me.

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December 13, 2021, 02:13:43 AM
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Asking for a loan is a dumb idea in itself though? I mean, if you aren't on the verge of death and can still try to earn money by yourself without trying to put yourself in a difficult situation, loaning honestly wouldn't (or shouldn't) be an option. Yes, investing could possibly net you a lot of money, but that's a "possibility", and investing in a possibility isn't really wrong, but trying to invest what you can't afford IS wrong. You know what they say, invest what you can lose. Even if hodlers say that new ath next year or Bitcoin only has positive growth, the problem is actually before that, and it's loaning itself. Gotta agree with diversifying though, nothing wrong with that.

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December 13, 2021, 03:14:12 AM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Please don't.

Don't loan money that you'll use for investing in bitcoin. Yeah, we say buy bitcoin and hold. But it's not ideal that the money you're going to invest for buying bitcoin came from a loan.

It's a very volatile asset that you don't know if after buying, you'll get to see the part of its pump. Worse is that you just bought it and then the plummet comes and stays for quite a long time. How will you pay your loan if the current situation for you is you're on the loss.

Just don't.

He knows it's risky that a thug will visit him asking for the money and interest when the agreed date comes. The more BTC chart becomes bullish it's also tempting to make money out of the loaned money. 

If he is confident and someone will actually give a loan, why not. Just make sure you can work out to pay if it won't go your way. And also avoid altcoins because that's when it alas go wrong.


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December 13, 2021, 03:49:46 AM
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You forgot one thing, which person have a crystal ball to make sure Bitcoin will goes to $120K in the next year? What if the scenario Bitcoin dropped to $30K? Do you have any money to pay the loan while your investment still in lose?

Bitcoin = Risk
Altcoins = Risk2
Loan to buy Bitcoin and Altcoins = Risk3

Personally for me the risk are very high and it could lead me rekt, if you are so confident with your idea then I wouldn't stop you. Probably after that, you'll learn a good lesson from your big mistake/achievement.

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December 13, 2021, 04:15:57 AM
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Buy crypto?
Yes this is a good time because most coins are declining, its an opportunity to take advantage specially if your goal is to hold for long period.

Take loan to buy crypto?
Definitely not advisable. Dont buy using a borrowed money. You dont know whats going to happen with your investment, there's no guarantee you'll gain because it has risk. What if the outcome didnt go according to your plan? Its a double kill, you lose the money plus you still have to pay the loan.

So think before you invest. Fill your mind with information and use your own money (the money you can live without) as capital. Any amount will do because its better to start from scratch rather than beeing greedy to invest but not thinking of the worst case scenario when you take a loan then lost it.

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Do not ever borrow money to invest. Or trade on leverage. It’s a recipe for disaster. And who knows if those meta coins and Bitcoin will ever moon again. You want to get stuck with a bad investment that you are paying interest on?

This is the real reason why back in late 2017 credit card companies started to decline payments to Bitcoin exchanges. Because there was too many people buying Bitcoin on credit and they were worried they would default on the bills.

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Not really a good idea to borrow or loan money but yes it's a good time to buy crypto but loaning won't be a good thing because you're not going to enjoy the profits of your investment as you're going to pay your loans and if you're unlucky, dumb and desperate at the time of borrowing, you're going to pay exorbitant interest if any.



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December 13, 2021, 04:56:15 AM
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Of course, now I'm going to listen to someone who doesn't even know the difference between "borrow" and "loan". Great idea, OP, borrowing money to play roulette, which is what you're describing.

There are cases where it may be financially smart to use some leverage to invest, but it's certainly not how you're describing it.

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December 13, 2021, 05:07:48 AM
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Yes but right now i know atleast 3 guys who will going to take loans to buy btc.
Sure they can take loans.

But the point still remains same, in a market where there is speculation involved, taking loans is step that only increases the risk. While professional traders often do take loans, they have come far with their knowledge and experience to be able to bet on themselves that they will win. This is not applicable to every trader out there.

Traders should work on mitigating risk and the mistake that some traders do and get washed away is by increasing their risks.

Instead, use your own money to buy bitcoin. If you are low in that, then one needs to learn how to save and spend diligently.

Some people have the habit of taking loans, which is fueled by the easy availability and access to lending platforms. This practice should be shunned.

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I see calls on social media to buy bitcoin. And I also see complaints from people who are provoked by scammers to buy cryptocurrency, referring to the fact that there is still a chance. Naive people run for loans, hoping for future profits. But these are the people who have only heard about the growth of bitcoin, relying on the fact that it is constantly growing.
In any case, information literacy and vice versa, illiteracy plays an important role in people's lives. Those who are little educated in the field of cryptocurrencies make mistakes much more often. It is a pity that people first do, and only then think about what they have done.

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And remember life doesn't always go according to plan. there must always be thorough preparation for the worst. what's more about the loan if you can't pay the bills, there are many consequences that must be faced. from paying fines or even getting into court. think carefully.
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December 13, 2021, 06:16:39 AM
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it's a very bad idea of making an investment in crypto by taking a loan. The Crypto market is very volatile and you could lose all of your money overnight. So be careful before taking such an activity.

How do you know for sure BTC will go to 120k soon? The bull rally could be over and we could see the market moving sideways for 3 more years. Anything can happen in crypto. This market is very uncertain so do not be overconfident by seeing a podcast about the next rally of BTC. We should have positive sentiments about investment and at the same time, we should be prepared for the worst mentally.
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And remember life doesn't always go according to plan. there must always be thorough preparation for the worst. what's more about the loan if you can't pay the bills, there are many consequences that must be faced. from paying fines or even getting into court. think carefully.


You have a point.  The problem really is we always thinking of the profit and we cant imagine if it will be a loss. As an investors you should always think first your losses than profit since if you lose then you dont have a plan then youll end up 0 profit and also your money will be gone. Imagine taking a big loan to invest into crypto what is your plan if all of that money is gone ? How can you pay the loan? if you cant pay it if the money is gone then that is not the right choice. Crpyto is really risky.
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Borrowing money to invest in buying currency is risky. The price of currency in the crypto market is unpredictable, and there is no guarantee that it will always be profitable. When the price drops, it will suffer more economic losses.
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December 13, 2021, 10:00:49 AM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
Maybe, who knows.

And borrow money.
This doesn't sound a good idea.

Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
How do you know? How can you be so sure that the price will reach $120,000? And within what time period? I can speculate that it'll reach $120,000 within the next 5 years, but that's just my guess.

Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Lots of buzzwords if you want my opinion.

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December 13, 2021, 10:20:51 AM
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Please don't do that, invest with money that is 100% safe not from loans or liquidation of valuable assets. Investing is a risky act both financially and mental health, keep it safe by choosing investment money that is truly safe.

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It's not a good idea to lend money from bank or friends just to invest on crypto, even with the market conditions right now it is still risky to do that. Only invest what you have or any extra money will do, even small amount is still a good venture. Just invest what you can afford to lose buddy and don't lend money.

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December 13, 2021, 11:59:15 AM
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Don't loan money to invest at crypto it a bad decision because uncertain situations on crypto cannot ensure people will always get profit from it moreover seems we still facing bearish moments without know when it's over and a friend of mine already proof it that he was loan money from bank with his land and house certificate as a collateral and he cannot pay his debts because his crypto asset value was decrease more than 50% from his initial money
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it will be very risky for those who borrow money to invest in cryptocurrencies, they seem to impose their will and want to get a lot of money by investing in large amounts. the question is whether you have taken into account the risk, and whether you already have sufficient knowledge in the world of cryptocurrencies, don't end up declaring cryptocurrency a fraud

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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.



Rising inflation is said to make loan fixed rate, loan payments more affordable.

If inflation isn't brought under control, and continues to rise. Taking out a loan to finance investment could be a good strategy.

For US markets, there are several different policies the federal reserve could employ. One policy they might adopt is shrinking the money supply. In theory, I suppose it could reduce inflation. It might also make credit and loans more unobtainable. There is a big question of which financial strategies are best for current market conditions. How can people protect their wealth and use inflation to their best advantage? Borrowing money to invest could definitely be worthwhile.
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December 13, 2021, 12:29:05 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.



Rising inflation is said to make loan fixed rate loan payments more affordable.

If inflation isn't brought under control, and instead continues to rise. Taking out a loan to invest could be a good strategy.

For US markets, there are several different policies the federal reserve could employ. One policy they might adopt is shrinking the money supply. In theory, I suppose it could reduce inflation. It might also make credit and loans more unobtainable. There is a big question of which financial strategies are best for current market conditions. Borrowing money to invest could definitely be worthwhile.


Finally some smart comment !!
Clearly i see you got some right economics and financial knowledge.
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December 13, 2021, 12:37:09 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.



Rising inflation is said to make loan fixed rate loan payments more affordable.

If inflation isn't brought under control, and instead continues to rise. Taking out a loan to invest could be a good strategy.

For US markets, there are several different policies the federal reserve could employ. One policy they might adopt is shrinking the money supply. In theory, I suppose it could reduce inflation. It might also make credit and loans more unobtainable. There is a big question of which financial strategies are best for current market conditions. Borrowing money to invest could definitely be worthwhile.


Finally some smart comment !!
Clearly i see you got some right economics and financial knowledge.

This is correct if you invest on the right crypto currency. But if your luck is bad and invest while the sell off occur, Imagine how much loss you can get on investing on crypto compared to the possible implications of inflation. You just want to find a positive comment to support your investment decision in crypto. As many said above, Crypto volatility is worst as you can see on its price history. Taking a loan just to invest on a volatile asset is a huge gambling. But still a high risk high reward since you can get big time once you successfully ride a crypto pump wave.

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December 13, 2021, 02:07:08 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Please don't.

Don't loan money that you'll use for investing in bitcoin. Yeah, we say buy bitcoin and hold. But it's not ideal that the money you're going to invest for buying bitcoin came from a loan.

It's a very volatile asset that you don't know if after buying, you'll get to see the part of its pump. Worse is that you just bought it and then the plummet comes and stays for quite a long time. How will you pay your loan if the current situation for you is you're on the loss.

Just don't.


Yes but right now i know atleast 3 guys who will going to take loans to buy btc.
Good luck to them.

You should give them the cons of loaning for bitcoin. I've seen people become successful on it but they're very few whilst on the other side, those that didn't have good experience and ended up with more loss.

That's what you have to tell them honestly if they're seriously going to take a loan for bitcoin. But if they're aware of the possible negative effect, wishing them the good result.



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December 13, 2021, 02:28:22 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

I would advise against loaning money to invest it in cryptos. First of all where would we get money and at which interest rate? A bank will probably not give away money for investing. This would leave us asking friends and family for money which is usually not a good idea. Don't get me wrong, I am pro bitcoins and I also believe we will see a BTC price above 100,000 USD. The only problem is that we don't know when this is going to happen. It could take 2 month or 2 years for BTC to rise so high. Until then we could be forced to sell before to repay the loan.
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December 13, 2021, 02:31:31 PM
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Please don't do that, invest with money that is 100% safe not from loans or liquidation of valuable assets. Investing is a risky act both financially and mental health, keep it safe by choosing investment money that is truly safe.
Yes let's do that.

It's not a good idea to lend money from bank or friends just to invest on crypto, even with the market conditions right now it is still risky to do that. Only invest what you have or any extra money will do, even small amount is still a good venture. Just invest what you can afford to lose buddy and don't lend money.
If you say so, but for me it's not bad idea at all.
as long as you can hold your breath long enough when there is a huge correction like down to 80% or so and some strong believe in crypto to hold it for a couple years.
not in the short term which could lead you into another problem paying that loaned money.

Don't loan money to invest at crypto it a bad decision because uncertain situations on crypto cannot ensure people will always get profit from it moreover seems we still facing bearish moments without know when it's over and a friend of mine already proof it that he was loan money from bank with his land and house certificate as a collateral and he cannot pay his debts because his crypto asset value was decrease more than 50% from his initial money
Just do the loan if you want a great great challenge living a life and have got a real big plan in crypto though  Grin

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To change our lives, of course, we must dare to take risks, even though investing in cryptocurrencies is high risk but I dare to borrow, if we are still in doubt about the market performance that continues to fall then the easiest way is to buy top coins and then we use them for staking, at Pancakeswap we can get APR up to 75% and staking is safer than daily trading or investing.


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December 13, 2021, 02:36:52 PM
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I will never suggest anyone invest in crypto or any other market using the money they get from loans because none can be sure about the profit or loss and there is the same situation for all markets, none can guarantee anything. But on the other hand usually, whenever the inflation rate is increasing and the money is becoming worthless this is profitable to take a loan today and pay back the money a few months or years later. That's like you take a 100K loan today and your money is worth 100K but two years later you will pay back the 100K but this is worths much less than the money you got, however, that's always recommended to use your money to invest not the money you get from the loans.

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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

Investing by taking loans from Bank is a bit risky because Bitcoin is still very volatile despite huge buying by Institutions and mass adoption in my countries. If you are highly skilled in using Charts and understand Money and Risk management  then your make use of this volatility to generate profit otherwise avoid loan based investment.









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December 13, 2021, 02:59:59 PM
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I am not recommending that kind of attack when it comes to investment. You should've saved the money while Bitcoin is still expensive rather than risking it with a loan then finding yourself in deep shit after it. We don't know what tomorrow will bring or the next month or year. But going too far as taking a loan and risking it will be a bad idea.
But, if there's someone you trust that could wait for a long time before being paid then so be it. Just don't go borrowing money in banks as I am sure they will be in your doorstep or your accounts once you cannot pay at the right time.
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December 13, 2021, 03:58:27 PM
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From straight-out-of-ass theories about Bitcoin and wall street to advice about borrowing to buy crypto, a bear market is surely the worst time to seek any kind of discussion anywhere.

Everyone is out of their depth waiting for the market as to where it will move, knowing that the big players will be long gone as and when something resembling a crash happens. This is unfortunately the reality of both Bitcoin as well as crypto because the market is still overly speculation, rather than product/ service based.

That does not changes anything about Bitcoin. It may lead to those notional losses when you no longer have the 100K in crypto portfolio on your tracker app. That is why, 1BTC is always 1BTC. If you are into crypto and pinning all hopes on fiat then you are doing it wrong. Those are the exact kind of people who will give you bad advice like the ones frequenting now.
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If inflation isn't brought under control, and continues to rise. Taking out a loan to finance investment could be a good strategy.


Makes some sense, but how to be sure it isn't brought under control throughout the whole venture?
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December 13, 2021, 04:29:32 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
If you are an expert trader with many years of experience under your belt and you have obtained profits during all of those years then you may have a point.

But if you are a newbie or someone with a small amount of experience then this is a move that could bury your future, this idea is nothing new, we saw people making the same comments at the end of 2017 and for what I could gather most people lost all of their money and indebted themselves to the point they will need to spend at least a decade to pay those loans, so do not fall into the same trap no matter how tempting it may look as you do not have what it is necessary to make something like this work.

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I don’t like the idea of taking loans to invest in cryptocurrency, because of the risks. Although I have seen stories of very few people who have been able to make profit from investing their loans in cryptocurrency and making huge money later on and paying back their loan and then starting up a better life. But at the same time, I have seen stories of many people that lost the money and one that even took his life because of that, there are many that lost the money than those that actually gained.

So, it’s quite a risk, and you should make some calculations first before taking such a risk. I don’t like this idea at all. It’s best to work hard and raise your own money and invest in crypto, loan is a very bad idea please. Don’t advise people to do such, thank you.

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I don’t like the idea of taking loans to invest in cryptocurrency, because of the risks. Although I have seen stories of very few people who have been able to make profit from investing their loans in cryptocurrency and making huge money later on and paying back their loan and then starting up a better life. But at the same time, I have seen stories of many people that lost the money and one that even took his life because of that, there are many that lost the money than those that actually gained.

So, it’s quite a risk, and you should make some calculations first before taking such a risk. I don’t like this idea at all. It’s best to work hard and raise your own money and invest in crypto, loan is a very bad idea please. Don’t advise people to do such, thank you.


And where is risk ? U keep the asset dont buy when green buy at least when red market.
And then dont sell at loss wait for better price and sell it u keep the asset so no loss really and also keeping
50% cash reserves in case asset price drops even lower u buying more.

And thats what every rich does it u do the same and results are best.

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Well it's not bad if you need to borrow money just for an investment because we don't know that by borrowing money there he grows and thrives, of course he can easily pay it off, if you have a job it's also easy for you to get and get finances  but with loan for investment I think sometimes others despise borrowing money and for me its up to you how do you make money to invest because not everyone takes out a loan for financial and we don't think the same way  sometimes the good will end up in the bad.
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Well it's not bad if you need to borrow money just for an investment because we don't know that by borrowing money there he grows and thrives, of course he can easily pay it off, if you have a job it's also easy for you to get and get finances  but with loan for investment I think sometimes others despise borrowing money and for me its up to you how do you make money to invest because not everyone takes out a loan for financial and we don't think the same way  sometimes the good will end up in the bad.

That is, if he has other resources that can cover if in case he is not lucky with his crypto investments. Because if not, and he is only relying to the possible rise of value, I don't think he can sleep peacefully here, knowing that he needs to return the loan as well as interest for a specified period of time. So if you have no other means to pay off the debt, I won't suggest to make a loan when it comes to crypto investments. This market is very unpredictable and you have no assurance that you will attain your targets at a certain time.
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December 13, 2021, 07:37:37 PM
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It may be a good time to buy some very good projects now that the market is down but getting a loan to do that is not advisable in my opinion, crypto investment is risky and it is not encouraging to take a loan to invest in it,
In fact, it is advisable to only invest what you can afford to lose, so I don't think taking a loan is a wise thing to do.
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December 13, 2021, 07:42:24 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
Yea, that's so easy to say. It's easier to said than done.
But, just imagine if things not going as planned? Your money is just gone + your loan so it leaves you with the debt and make things worse for you.

I don't recommend to make a loan for trading since how high the risk is to invest, even you can pay it afterwards, it's not the best action to make anyways.

Next year as we all know ATH 
There is too much possibilities we could get at next year, we don't know what happen next year.

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investing is one of the very good things that will indeed make this even better because at least with future interactions we will be more secure and there will be more grip compared to people who don't invest.
But it's not good for me when making investments but the results from borrowing.
indeed something like that would be okay but I feel like this is not a very good thing to do

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December 13, 2021, 08:40:09 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.

I don't see any problem with this investment method as long as you're capable of paying the loan without depending on the returns when Bitcoin pumps. Because, nobody knows when will Bitcoin reach $120,000(your target).
If you can't afford to be paying that huge amount of loan using your hard earned money form your day job or from your business, then I can say it's a good choice to make.
Always remember, invest what you can afford to lose.
Now, If you will be struggling to paying back the loan without depending on your investment's return, then I can say you cannot afford to invest that huge amount on Bitcoin.

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December 13, 2021, 09:16:31 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.

I don't see any problem with this investment method as long as you're capable of paying the loan without depending on the returns when Bitcoin pumps. Because, nobody knows when will Bitcoin reach $120,000(your target).
If you can't afford to be paying that huge amount of loan using your hard earned money form your day job or from your business, then I can say it's a good choice to make.
Always remember, invest what you can afford to lose.
Now, If you will be struggling to paying back the loan without depending on your investment's return, then I can say you cannot afford to invest that huge amount on Bitcoin.
This is true!

It isnt bad to make such step as long you do make yourself responsible on paying it back.There are really moments or times which
cant really be avoided on where we are short of money to invest on.

Specially if we do see some opportunity in our front but have nothing to spend or put on and this is where people
do really make out such decision.

Most of the time they do experience problems but there are ones who do make more profits out of those loan
because they had done the right thing.
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December 13, 2021, 09:35:46 PM
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You should give them the cons of loaning for bitcoin. I've seen people become successful on it but they're very few whilst on the other side, those that didn't have good experience and ended up with more loss.

That's what you have to tell them honestly if they're seriously going to take a loan for bitcoin. But if they're aware of the possible negative effect, wishing them the good result.
It is not even about just crypto, it is about getting a loan to make an investment and that is the biggest problem. I have to say there is a big problem at paying it back most of the time and that is the biggest reason why I am not getting any loans at all. It just doesn't worth it and I rather not do it at all. It is clear that we are talking about something that is dangerous to begin with, as long as you can't pay your loan back, you are going to lose even more and more and do not forget about the interest on top of that.

You can make a debt at a small level, like for example you are making a credit card debt that you have pay one by one each month? That seems fine. But, getting a whole loan out of this deal is not really a good one and you can't make a proper payment back when the price is too much. This is why I try to avoid it as much as I can, because big debts require big repayments.
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December 13, 2021, 09:36:46 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

Sounds very nice. But the reality will be different. At a rate of $ 60,000 per bitcoin, someone will buy. Then a bearish trade will begin, and a person in a panic, observing hourly how bitcoin is falling in price, will at first control himself, but when his eyes begin to twitch, like a squirrel from the "Ice Age", he will begin to drain bitcoin at $ 30,000. By the time Bitcoin costs $ 120,000, this person will have a hole in his pocket, a nervous breakdown, and a mental disorder Smiley The principle was voiced a long time ago, the main thing is to incorrectly determine that these moments have come - sell at the maximum, buy at the minimum.

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December 13, 2021, 09:43:33 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
There is no "good" time to invest in crypto currencies. Every moment is perfect opportunity to invest as long as you can afford to lose everything. And no, you shouldn't borrow money to invest in crypto currencies. The market is very volatile and unpredictable. You might end up losing everything and things will start getting even harder for you. The first rule of investing in crypto currencies is to make sure you can "afford" to lose your investment. Can you afford to lose borrowed money? Nope.

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December 13, 2021, 10:30:56 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea to loan money to invest in crytocurrency much better to invest with your own money because it involves a lot of risk you can either make money or lose money also don't forget to invest only what you can afford to loose for better protection of your funds.

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Borrowing money to invest is the wrong way to make a risky investment. You must invest or trade within the range of funds you can afford.
The crypto market is unstable and the price is unpredictable, and there is no guarantee that you will always profit from it. The downward trend in the price is easy to sell because of panic, which may bear double economic losses.
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bitcoins is the the digital gold and it will be valued more than anything put $10 or $100 on it. see what happens lol. Tongue
dont never ask to borrow money from a friend or family member to invest in crypto, you are going to get a huge problem.
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Borrowing money to invest is the wrong way to make a risky investment. You must invest or trade within the range of funds you can afford.
The crypto market is unstable and the price is unpredictable, and there is no guarantee that you will always profit from it. The downward trend in the price is easy to sell because of panic, which may bear double economic losses.

That is not recommended for people doing that without having a way how to pay the loan and will have a big riskier to them. Although our investment is not too big, if we can constantly invest periodically, I think our investment will be bigger someday and when we can make a profit, our profit will also be bigger. The crypto will be like this, whether we like or not, and if we can prepare for the worst thing, we will be okay and will have a way or solution from the worst thing.

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Borrowing money to invest is the wrong way to make a risky investment. You must invest or trade within the range of funds you can afford.
The crypto market is unstable and the price is unpredictable, and there is no guarantee that you will always profit from it. The downward trend in the price is easy to sell because of panic, which may bear double economic losses.

That is not recommended for people doing that without having a way how to pay the loan and will have a big riskier to them. Although our investment is not too big, if we can constantly invest periodically, I think our investment will be bigger someday and when we can make a profit, our profit will also be bigger. The crypto will be like this, whether we like or not, and if we can prepare for the worst thing, we will be okay and will have a way or solution from the worst thing.
The market is very unstable at the moment so we might expect that the price decline will still go on. And with this, crypto coins are definitely in bargain right now but this is not a good reason that we should take loans to invest so we can maximize buying coins. This is a very risky decision since we don't have assurance that the market will be good in the next few days or months. We can still invest with a little money we have that we can afford to lose. Once the profits will keep on adding, eventually we can afford to invest a bigger amount by then.

However, with taking loans, this will make the investor resort into panic selling and end up losing the borrowed capital once the the market does not recover.

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DWYOR.
In the crypto world, prices always go up and down quickly. crypto has high fluctuations, especially bitcoin.
however, the price movement of bitcoin so far is only speculation. yes, the development is very fast, and the price is likely to be high even up to $100k or more.
What you need to know before borrowing money is, the risk of this. maybe the price of bitcoin can reach $100k, but what if it's not in the near future, while the money you borrow needs to be returned, monthly, or when the time comes. and how do you deal with this when the bitcoin price has not pumped, or has even fallen deeper. well, all things need to be considered, however you will get a big profit if your strategy is successful. however, the risk is also very big for that. what's more, the current bitcoin price is quite expensive.

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I do agree that loaning money to invest solely on crypto is not a great idea. Loans need to be paid on the contract signed. When you invest in crypto, you won't have that assurance that you'll accumulate enough to repay the loan itself.
Crypto may be profitable but unless you take more risk to accumulate more, you would have to wait for the long run by just holding.
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I do agree that loaning money to invest solely on crypto is not a great idea. Loans need to be paid on the contract signed. When you invest in crypto, you won't have that assurance that you'll accumulate enough to repay the loan itself.
Crypto may be profitable but unless you take more risk to accumulate more, you would have to wait for the long run by just holding.
Right. I won't suggest to anyone to take loans for crypto investment as its a very bad decision that you will surely regret in the long run. Remember that the crypto market is very much volatile and even unpredictable so you can't guarantee yourself that you will be profitable after investing. Better invest with your own extra money that you are willing to lose than to borrow money to invest because once you cannot make profits in your target time, then that will make you miserable looking where to pay the loan amount. If that happens, you will be force to sell your coins in a low price and end up losing all your money, time and efforts.
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I do agree that loaning money to invest solely on crypto is not a great idea. Loans need to be paid on the contract signed. When you invest in crypto, you won't have that assurance that you'll accumulate enough to repay the loan itself.
Crypto may be profitable but unless you take more risk to accumulate more, you would have to wait for the long run by just holding.
That's right, it's not the right decision, other than that doing it will only add to the burden so I don't think borrowing money to invest in crypto is not the top choice,
remember that crypto is very risky so there will always be the possibility of us experiencing losses

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I think this was discussed many times in this forum. Why would I loan just to invest in crypto only to find out that it doesn't have astronomical guaranteed returns? And what if the market crashes down to Earth? It'll be hard for me to pay the loan back unless I have a decent collateral in exchange.

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Maybe now its a good time to invest
I thinks may be its a good time to invest as we are in deep now but still we don't know how dip it can go .There is no sign that market are recovering just falling so don't wanna suggest to enter right now and i think we will find our self right time to enter .
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Don't do a risky work work where you are not really sure that you will get a sure return .You may loose your everything .So think before doing this again.
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Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
How you become so sure that it can really go so far .I think it could take more time to reach the level still we are on deep now so its need more time to go this level .
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Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Its true that upcoming trend are meta verse and the good project always gain a huge profit .I think it can give you a good return and help you to give back the due loan if you badly do this .
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I really don't know it where you have found the news any source mate ?However i am still confused right now after watching a huge deep .I think it will recover soon and take a momentum to go through .

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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

This is not a piece of good financial advice. I know that we all want to buy the dip and eventually sell and make a profit when the ATH happens, but borrowing or loaning money just to invest is a no-no. The golden rule in crypto should always be remembered by everyone here which is to only invest what you can afford to lose. You should not invest money that is not even yours, most especially if you know it to yourself that you can't pay that amount back once shit happens. Let's all be reminded that crypto is volatile and it won't always be in ur favor. Let's not just follow the hype and instead study what we are getting ourselves into to avoid regret.

I have seen so many confessions about borrowing/loaning money and ending up being bankrupt and even buried deeper on their debts just because they decided to invest it without proper knowledge. What you stated is really possible to happen, however, one must know how the crypto market moves first. If they will loan money and invest it now that we're still in ATL and happened to invest it in the wrong coin/s, they will surely be dumbfounded.

It's really good to invest in crypto. I know many people that achieved their financial freedom through cryptocurrency. But always just invest your spare money. Not the money you are using on your daily expenses and most especially not that money that you intend to borrow as the risk is always high in crypto. We should only risk the money we can accept to let go.
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Now is a good opportunity to make a profit by borrowing or selling assets to buy cryptocurrencies, the market is very stable and continues to move positively, if the world's millionaires want to invest in cryptocurrencies then surely this is the most profitable type.

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Now is a good opportunity to make a profit by borrowing or selling assets to buy cryptocurrencies, the market is very stable and continues to move positively, if the world's millionaires want to invest in cryptocurrencies then surely this is the most profitable type.
If you think like that, just go ahead but I suggest you not do that because we do not know what will happen to crypto next year. Besides that, if you can pay the loan, you are free to do that but I hope you can think about the risk you should face later. Many people think shortly about borrowing from others or banks but do not remember that crypto is a high-risk investment and the price has high volatility. Some people can get rich from crypto, but others can be poor quickly.

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Borrowing or loaning funds just to invest in a crypto is a risky thing. There's no guarantee that you could pay your debt in time if you'll rely things in cryptocurrency. Keep in mind that cryptocurrency's volatility is too high and its movement isn't constant. You better save enough funds that you could allocate for your investment but don't borrow so you'll have something to invest because you might only regret it in the end.
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December 14, 2021, 04:26:15 PM
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I think this was discussed many times in this forum. Why would I loan just to invest in crypto only to find out that it doesn't have astronomical guaranteed returns? And what if the market crashes down to Earth? It'll be hard for me to pay the loan back unless I have a decent collateral in exchange.
Yes, we have many time's discussion like this in past and too many threads related to this subject because mostly good business mind peoples never advice about this it's never been good idea to have loan and invest into crypto market it's unpredictable, and its nature is volatile which can ruin your life with anytime. I already have too many examples about these type investments and mostly peoples end their lives because they were unable to pay back their loan, and they have no other choice, so please never do this mistake it never works.

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You should give them the cons of loaning for bitcoin. I've seen people become successful on it but they're very few whilst on the other side, those that didn't have good experience and ended up with more loss.

That's what you have to tell them honestly if they're seriously going to take a loan for bitcoin. But if they're aware of the possible negative effect, wishing them the good result.
It is not even about just crypto, it is about getting a loan to make an investment and that is the biggest problem. I have to say there is a big problem at paying it back most of the time and that is the biggest reason why I am not getting any loans at all. It just doesn't worth it and I rather not do it at all. It is clear that we are talking about something that is dangerous to begin with, as long as you can't pay your loan back, you are going to lose even more and more and do not forget about the interest on top of that.

You can make a debt at a small level, like for example you are making a credit card debt that you have pay one by one each month? That seems fine. But, getting a whole loan out of this deal is not really a good one and you can't make a proper payment back when the price is too much. This is why I try to avoid it as much as I can, because big debts require big repayments.
I don't also get loans but I've got a relative who's making good use of their loans because they have a business and it's very sustainable since they've got a growing business.

It's a different thing in this matter.

By holding bitcoin after purchase, that person who took a loan has to repay actively and if he's just passive holding it and don't have any other means of paying it, he might just ending up giving himself a burden.



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December 14, 2021, 06:18:06 PM
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I do agree that loaning money to invest solely on crypto is not a great idea. Loans need to be paid on the contract signed. When you invest in crypto, you won't have that assurance that you'll accumulate enough to repay the loan itself.
Crypto may be profitable but unless you take more risk to accumulate more, you would have to wait for the long run by just holding.
That's right, it's not the right decision, other than that doing it will only add to the burden so I don't think borrowing money to invest in crypto is not the top choice,
remember that crypto is very risky so there will always be the possibility of us experiencing losses
You just have to remember that growing your portfolio with the loan needs a recurring income. So lets assume that you took out a loan of 10k, and you need to pay 1k per month for one full year, I am sure 20% interest rates must be valid in some nations or some cases, I know normally it is less but just stick with the example. That means you need to make more than 1k per month with that 10k investment in order to pay it back. The main problem with crypto is that it could turn your 10k into 20k in a single week, it could drop it to 5k in a single day.

So, you may not always be in profit and you may not always be able to sell to cover that fee. It doesn't have a recurring fee that is higher than the interest rate. You could maybe check all those USDT stuff where they pay as much as 10% a year and if your loan rate is lower than you could pay that back, but even in that case you are taking money out to pay hence lowering your return and can't pay it back.
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I do agree that loaning money to invest solely on crypto is not a great idea. Loans need to be paid on the contract signed. When you invest in crypto, you won't have that assurance that you'll accumulate enough to repay the loan itself.
Crypto may be profitable but unless you take more risk to accumulate more, you would have to wait for the long run by just holding.
That's right, it's not the right decision, other than that doing it will only add to the burden so I don't think borrowing money to invest in crypto is not the top choice,
remember that crypto is very risky so there will always be the possibility of us experiencing losses
You just have to remember that growing your portfolio with the loan needs a recurring income. So lets assume that you took out a loan of 10k, and you need to pay 1k per month for one full year, I am sure 20% interest rates must be valid in some nations or some cases, I know normally it is less but just stick with the example. That means you need to make more than 1k per month with that 10k investment in order to pay it back. The main problem with crypto is that it could turn your 10k into 20k in a single week, it could drop it to 5k in a single day.

So, you may not always be in profit and you may not always be able to sell to cover that fee. It doesn't have a recurring fee that is higher than the interest rate. You could maybe check all those USDT stuff where they pay as much as 10% a year and if your loan rate is lower than you could pay that back, but even in that case you are taking money out to pay hence lowering your return and can't pay it back.
One of the most important or main considerations whenever you do decide to take a loan is that minding if you do able to pay monthly interest or dues?

If you would able to find yourself to be able to do it without problems then taking a loan wont really be that a bad idea since you know that you could

really expand yourself when it comes to your portfolio or simply could diversify off with other investment which you do know could potentially bring
more income.Its a matter of gamble on any angle if you do ask me.

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You know what am not  really the type that will encourage you to borrow money to invest in Cryptocurrency but even if you are thinking of taking a loan and you want to invest make sure you invest in only bitcoin because other altcoins can't be trusted. If you are investing your own money you can definitely invest in other altcoins but if you are taking a loan I will only advise you to invest in bitcoin, but just a suggestion.

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I do agree that loaning money to invest solely on crypto is not a great idea. Loans need to be paid on the contract signed. When you invest in crypto, you won't have that assurance that you'll accumulate enough to repay the loan itself.
Actually I don't blame your opinion, but what I think at this time is that borrowing to invest is not a very bad thing if managed properly.  Before we borrow, we also have to measure our ability to pay it like what, and can we if the loan is not successful in the sense of being unproductive?  For example, MSTR is a company that issues bonds to finance their investments in crypto.  I also dare to say that their investment is quite good in terms of the profit earned, so it is not a very bad choice if we have judged ourselves worthy or not in managing it.
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You have a point.  The problem really is we always thinking of the profit and we cant imagine if it will be a loss. As an investors you should always think first your losses than profit since if you lose then you dont have a plan then youll end up 0 profit and also your money will be gone. Imagine taking a big loan to invest into crypto what is your plan if all of that money is gone ? How can you pay the loan? if you cant pay it if the money is gone then that is not the right choice. Crpyto is really risky.
It is not even only about the losses, also we should think about the period the profit will be possible, if the profit is more than many months or years before it comes, I believe the profit over the loan would have increased too. It will be funny if the profit gained from the price of the coin that increase is not sufficient enough to pay back the loan and its profit. But the worst case is what you have said already, for the person to get a loan, invest and lose the money. It is better not to loan than a loan that can severely affect someone's life negatively.

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I don't think borrowing money to invest in anything is a good idea. Not saying it would always result in a bad outcome, but it's definitely much riskier than it should be. It can be a risk for seasoned investors, let alone relatively inexperienced investors. As one post on this forum is titled 'Invest only what you can afford to lose'. It's a hard pill to swallow, but that's the safest option.

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I don't think borrowing money to invest in anything is a good idea. Not saying it would always result in a bad outcome, but it's definitely much riskier than it should be. It can be a risk for seasoned investors, let alone relatively inexperienced investors. As one post on this forum is titled 'Invest only what you can afford to lose'. It's a hard pill to swallow, but that's the safest option.
If for me borrowing money for investment would be the last option and I will consider it too,
investing alone is not always profitable and the risks are also big especially this is about crypto,
more or less like that maybe what i will do

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If we have guarantees and knowledge about cryptocurrencies, I don't think it's a problem to get a loan to invest, because we understand the risks and rewards of investing in bitcoin. but if we are only controlled by lust and emotion to get a lot of money in a short time, then this will boomerang for us who still lack knowledge

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Investing in crypto or any other with borrowed capital is very risky and should be avoided because investing is something we don't know or are uncertain about whether it will result in profit or loss.
In my opinion, loans are only intended in times of emergency and really in urgent situations, for example because of illness or other, not to take risks that do not necessarily generate profits, especially if you do not have the knowledge to invest and that would be tantamount to suicide. Grin

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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Loan money to buy bitcoin is not a good idea to newbies in the areas of investment. Bitcoin is a decentralized currency which is different from centralized investment which you can loan money to start a business and within a year you can pay back your loan. Bitcoin is unpredictable which nobody know when it will pump and when it will dump, so never you use loan to buy bitcoin because there are a lot of things to face in the future if the price refuse to increase and there is time to pay back the loan you have collected.

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If we have guarantees and knowledge about cryptocurrencies, I don't think it's a problem to get a loan to invest, because we understand the risks and rewards of investing in bitcoin. but if we are only controlled by lust and emotion to get a lot of money in a short time, then this will boomerang for us who still lack knowledge
To be honest, there is no paper or test that can verify our knowledge or any specific documents to provide assurance to you and your crypto to be safe for you to engage in borrowing and investing, maybe even as you say, right before we get a loan, lust has filled the brain and produced tremendous confidence but it's all hollow and rotten. Borrowing money in the past can be solved by working hard to reduce the amount owed but right now, the skin of the economy is peeling a lot, it's easier to get a loan but interest and repayment opportunities start to become more strangled, loan is not an option that should be considered

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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
without daring to take risks, you will not be successful, Borrow money to invest in a crypto is indeed very risky but if you buy when the market dips and then wait until it's bullish then we will get more profit.  do it wisely..

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I received an offer from a friend of $5000 some time ago to invest with a profit-sharing agreement, but I turned it down simply because I don't want to risk other people's money even though I'm sure there are plenty of crypto that still have the potential to drive up the price.

I'm still very confident about bitcoin's ATH potential in the next 1 to 2 month, but lately I'm starting to have doubt about it given that FUD continues to grow. There is a risk involved when borrowed money is used to invest because basically the borrower just wants to make a profit without being responsible for losses due to market volatility. I won't be doing it anytime soon, but will consider it in the future and maybe before the next halving. There is no certainty in this investment, especially if we do not do it in the long term and the average borrower cant provide loans without real results within 5 to 1 year of loan time.

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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
I think this is too risky for such an investment because we all know that crypto is a volatile market and we don't know when we're gonna get our profit from investing our our money. We may have the chance to get profit but the chance of losing the money we borrow is too hard to get back. Investment is only for people who has extra money who are willing to lose it in an instant.



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December 15, 2021, 08:31:59 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

If only things are easy to predict, we won't have any problems.

What you said will be underlying in the situation of "what if". It's a good plan but only if things will go directly the way you want. I won't contradict or stop if someone wants to make a loan to take advantage of the price dip. People themselves know their financial capability and ability to pay those loans compare to us. If you think you can handle the risks and you are well-prepared to deal with any future problems, it's your decision.

It's your money after all.

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December 15, 2021, 08:44:33 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back the loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Yes sure try it once and the market will teach you the Lesson to take this excessive leverage. Never ever try to gamble in this market, it's a very risky market that really has the potential to dismantle your whole life if you don't play it intelligently. You are saying that it might reach an all-time high but there are good chances that the market might move south altogether and you might face huge loss and eventually, you are stuck in a debt trap when the market becomes bearish even metaverse or web 3.0 tokens aren't really able to do anything they will go from $10 to $2 and then to $6 claiming a 3x return but eventually you still are 40% down.
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December 15, 2021, 08:57:18 PM
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Taking out loans, selling your apartments in order to invest in cryptocurrency is a bad idea.  I think it is worth investing in coins only the money that you do not mind throwing out the window at the moment.  This will help you maintain your mental health in case of failure.  I know a lot of sad stories of people in 2018, when they took out loans secured by an apartment.  Everyone knows how it ended.  It is not worth investing more than you can afford.  If you are unlucky enough to get rich, you will still have to pay back your debts. 
This is my subjective opinion)
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December 15, 2021, 09:03:47 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH  

If only things are easy to predict, we won't have any problems.

What you said will be underlying in the situation of "what if". It's a good plan but only if things will go directly the way you want. I won't contradict or stop if someone wants to make a loan to take advantage of the price dip. People themselves know their financial capability and ability to pay those loans compare to us. If you think you can handle the risks and you are well-prepared to deal with any future problems, it's your decision.

It's your money after all.
Well, the last decision will still be in your own hands. But knowing that this market is very much unpredictable, taking loans to invest is never a good idea as it will only make your life miserable paying your debt because there is not fixed month or year when you will make profits. I know this is a great time to invest in crypto but invest on your extra money that you can afford to lose. In times like this where the market is constantly dumping, the scenario just looks the same with gambling as you really don't know when to make profits, and better prepare for losses once you start panic selling.

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December 15, 2021, 09:10:46 PM
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Taking out loans, selling your apartments in order to invest in cryptocurrency is a bad idea.  I think it is worth investing in coins only the money that you do not mind throwing out the window at the moment.  This will help you maintain your mental health in case of failure.  I know a lot of sad stories of people in 2018, when they took out loans secured by an apartment.  Everyone knows how it ended.  It is not worth investing more than you can afford.  If you are unlucky enough to get rich, you will still have to pay back your debts. 
This is my subjective opinion)
I do even see my neighbor on selling their livestocks like carabaos,cows and other farm animals for them to invest on crypto? I have seen it on early 2018
until the price gets crashing and did really result into that extreme stress and anxiety because they hadn't expected that they would really be experiencing
such loss.

They do even panic sell with those coins without tending to hold it for at least on some recovery but actually did the opposite.

Now they do hated up on investing or dealing or even touching with crypto leaving out behind those bad impressions which is sad.

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December 15, 2021, 09:23:55 PM
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If for me borrowing money for investment would be the last option and I will consider it too,
investing alone is not always profitable and the risks are also big especially this is about crypto,
more or less like that maybe what i will do
It would be the same for me. If I was a business owner and I was getting a loan just to expand my business with the hopes of a bigger return then I would definitely do it. Loans are a natural part of a business owners life cycle and you need to keep being in debt to keep growing your company constantly, if you are not taking any loans then you are not growing at good enough pace.

Every single major company in the world has debt, or at least almost all of them, why? Because it is wiser to be debt now and grow your company, then wait to collect enough cash to grow. In the end when you take out a  3-5 year loan, by the time you finish paying, it will be small change for you if you used it smartly. However, if you do it on investment, you need to keep paying that debt from the investment sell offs and that will never be a great one unless you got super lucky.
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December 16, 2021, 02:00:03 AM
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Cryptocurrency fluctuates greatly, and its price is unpredictable. Borrowing money for investment is not recommended because it has higher risks.
So invest within the scope of your own funds, otherwise it will increase a certain burden.
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December 16, 2021, 09:14:19 AM
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Cryptocurrency fluctuates greatly, and its price is unpredictable. Borrowing money for investment is not recommended because it has higher risks.
So invest within the scope of your own funds, otherwise it will increase a certain burden.
Exactly. Borrowing money is not always a good option because it will only give us burden in the latter part knowing there is no fixed income in crypto and there's no even fixed dates when to make profits. So never invest if you just take loans, only invest on the amount you can afford to lose. The market is definitely a good time to invest but since its always unpredictable, so there will be no guarantees that we will make profits right after we invest. Of course we will make profits in crypto but it takes time before we can enjoy the profits.

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Cryptocurrency fluctuates greatly, and its price is unpredictable. Borrowing money for investment is not recommended because it has higher risks.
So invest within the scope of your own funds, otherwise it will increase a certain burden.
It's true borrowing money to invest in crypto is certainly not the right choice,
The big risk of crypto I think is a strong consideration for everyone not to do that,
but sometimes to make a profit you need to take a risk

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bad decision if you loan to invest in something. i am not aaying that the price cant go higher, but you need to think realistically. about pay interest every month, if you are work, you need to set aside much portion, think about how crazy it is. if you can borrow, this time, right now, than in one or second day after you get max profit, you can do it.
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December 16, 2021, 03:09:18 PM
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Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.


How do you determine ATH? This has been an issue with many hodlers. They hodl and wait for top or ATH but soon they know the price starts to drop faster and faster until they get discouraged to sell and again they wait for another circle of ATH.So you have means you know the ATH?

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December 16, 2021, 04:13:26 PM
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what is the basis of your analysis saying that $120,000 will be achieved by BTC. I do not condone borrowing money to invest in Crypto, as this is very risky to the finances we save for other emergency needs. the future of crypto cannot be predicted with certainty, sometimes in the next year there will be a dump or pump for a long period of time. You see, after borrowing and investing, the market collapsed. this will make us sell everything to pay off debts, even what we have will be sold out.

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Crypto is too risky to invest with borrowed asset. The market is never stable which means you might borrow and the trend reverses against you which still means you have to wait for a pullback before you can withdraw to payback. It's best to invest with your own funds so whatever comes out of the market you wouldn't be in complete loss
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I have since repented from borrowing money to invest in crypto. I borrowed money in 2018 to invest in crypto, I almost got into depression because of bad debt. I had to cry to heaven for help, well God did helped me. I paid off the debt and have enough till date. I will never again, I have since learnt to be levearging on what I have it.
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Cryptocurrency fluctuates greatly, and its price is unpredictable. Borrowing money for investment is not recommended because it has higher risks.
So invest within the scope of your own funds, otherwise it will increase a certain burden.
It's true borrowing money to invest in crypto is certainly not the right choice,
The big risk of crypto I think is a strong consideration for everyone not to do that,
but sometimes to make a profit you need to take a risk
I would say that there are risks and there are silly moves and you should not compare the two. If you are taking out a loan and you think you can pay it back without a problem by simply investing, then you need to remember that you are going to end up with a huge loss if the price falls. You need some sort of assurance that you will not lose a lot of money, and crypto can't give that to you.

If you really want to, you could take out some loan and put it on staking or something like that and hope that it will pay you back, but most people forget that the returns of that is not equal to your debt so you will pay more monthly in that way and end up with a loss unless whatever you are staking increases as well. It is a very difficult position to be in and I highly doubt that people would be able to find anything that would make it more profitable that way.
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December 16, 2021, 10:06:27 PM
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Cryptocurrency fluctuates greatly, and its price is unpredictable. Borrowing money for investment is not recommended because it has higher risks.
So invest within the scope of your own funds, otherwise it will increase a certain burden.
It's true borrowing money to invest in crypto is certainly not the right choice,
The big risk of crypto I think is a strong consideration for everyone not to do that,
but sometimes to make a profit you need to take a risk
I would say that there are risks and there are silly moves and you should not compare the two. If you are taking out a loan and you think you can pay it back without a problem by simply investing, then you need to remember that you are going to end up with a huge loss if the price falls. You need some sort of assurance that you will not lose a lot of money, and crypto can't give that to you.

If you really want to, you could take out some loan and put it on staking or something like that and hope that it will pay you back, but most people forget that the returns of that is not equal to your debt so you will pay more monthly in that way and end up with a loss unless whatever you are staking increases as well. It is a very difficult position to be in and I highly doubt that people would be able to find anything that would make it more profitable that way.
how many months does the borrower wait for ATH while the loan will continue to swell with the interest rate set every month, I think trading digital assets that are already at risk should not be overlapped with other risks so that they do not overlap even though we must dare to take risks
invest smartly if you have to go into debt, it's better to be in debt with our ability to pay monthly / sell other assets that are rarely used such as jewelry so that our crypto assets are safe in the long term

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Cryptocurrency fluctuates greatly, and its price is unpredictable. Borrowing money for investment is not recommended because it has higher risks.
So invest within the scope of your own funds, otherwise it will increase a certain burden.
It's true borrowing money to invest in crypto is certainly not the right choice,
The big risk of crypto I think is a strong consideration for everyone not to do that,
but sometimes to make a profit you need to take a risk
I would say that there are risks and there are silly moves and you should not compare the two. If you are taking out a loan and you think you can pay it back without a problem by simply investing, then you need to remember that you are going to end up with a huge loss if the price falls. You need some sort of assurance that you will not lose a lot of money, and crypto can't give that to you.

If you really want to, you could take out some loan and put it on staking or something like that and hope that it will pay you back, but most people forget that the returns of that is not equal to your debt so you will pay more monthly in that way and end up with a loss unless whatever you are staking increases as well. It is a very difficult position to be in and I highly doubt that people would be able to find anything that would make it more profitable that way.
how many months does the borrower wait for ATH while the loan will continue to swell with the interest rate set every month, I think trading digital assets that are already at risk should not be overlapped with other risks so that they do not overlap even though we must dare to take risks
invest smartly if you have to go into debt, it's better to be in debt with our ability to pay monthly / sell other assets that are rarely used such as jewelry so that our crypto assets are safe in the long term
When you taken up some loan and made out some investments and tending to wait up for some bull run in price before you do harvest out profits then it would really be a bad idea and as mentioned on where monthly interest of your taken loan would swell up and if you dont have various sources for it to be paid then that would really be a big problem thats why there would really be lots of reconsideration first before making step specially in talking about loans and this is something
a crucial thing to be done if you do have doubts on repaying those in the right time then better not to do it.

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December 16, 2021, 10:55:37 PM
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I wish you may think about it first before taking the loan. I suppose not to hold you if you were using it right but since it was for investment, I'm afraid that this might be a reason to struggle to pay in debts the whole life. Maybe if it was just borrowed money with ZERO interest, that seems to find but if you need to pay in terms plus interest, that gonna be a problem in the future especially when you mismanage your funds.

Honestly, I don't encourage you to do that. If you only have $500 in your pocket, then that is the only amount to spend. Don't ever force yourselves to provide beyond what you can provide, it was a suicide.

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December 16, 2021, 11:18:39 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

That is not advisable because investing in crypto is very risky. If you don't know how to manage your investment it could turn into losses. If you are going to loan how can you pay back if you didn't gain profit but losses? Much better to just invest small amount of money but it came from your own pocket that you can afford to lose. Just think wisely because making any move and decision regarding making loan for your investment. Always think the possible output of it both positive and negative.

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December 17, 2021, 04:39:22 PM
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Cryptocurrency fluctuates greatly, and its price is unpredictable. Borrowing money for investment is not recommended because it has higher risks.
So invest within the scope of your own funds, otherwise it will increase a certain burden.
It's true borrowing money to invest in crypto is certainly not the right choice,
The big risk of crypto I think is a strong consideration for everyone not to do that,
but sometimes to make a profit you need to take a risk
I would say that there are risks and there are silly moves and you should not compare the two. If you are taking out a loan and you think you can pay it back without a problem by simply investing, then you need to remember that you are going to end up with a huge loss if the price falls. You need some sort of assurance that you will not lose a lot of money, and crypto can't give that to you.

If you really want to, you could take out some loan and put it on staking or something like that and hope that it will pay you back, but most people forget that the returns of that is not equal to your debt so you will pay more monthly in that way and end up with a loss unless whatever you are staking increases as well. It is a very difficult position to be in and I highly doubt that people would be able to find anything that would make it more profitable that way.
how many months does the borrower wait for ATH while the loan will continue to swell with the interest rate set every month, I think trading digital assets that are already at risk should not be overlapped with other risks so that they do not overlap even though we must dare to take risks
invest smartly if you have to go into debt, it's better to be in debt with our ability to pay monthly / sell other assets that are rarely used such as jewelry so that our crypto assets are safe in the long term
In terms of worth it or not, of course we will all say that something like this is not worth it.
ATH achieved and profits taken there will be used up with more and more interest.
on the other hand I agree with what you said because overlapping like this will only make the burden bigger and our focus will be split

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Never borrow and invest in crypto. It might be loans or borrowing money from friends or through any means, never do it. As market is volatile, we are not sure of constant return to repay the loan. At times, the return might in months or many times in a month. When there is no return, you will be put in pressure to close off your loan. Hence never borrow money from any means and invest on crypto currencies. We will be in loss and then in depression.

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December 17, 2021, 05:28:40 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

I somehow agree that this may be a good opportunity for loans as the value of crypto is relatively low in the market. I do suspect, however, that its price may recover by the first quarter of 2022. That is why, any investment opportunity done at the current price of BTC (~$48,000) can be profitable long-term.

Though the problem of loans stems from its very nature that you are lending someone your money. There are many instances where even trusted members of this forum took advantage of their reputation and got away with it.

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December 17, 2021, 06:04:46 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
It is very risky to invest in cryptocurrency that are borrowed. I would not advise anyone to do this. Price movements in the cryptocurrency market are very unpredictable. You indicated that the price of bitcoin will rise to $ 120,000. Are you sure that by the time the loan can be repaid, the price of bitcoin will rise to such values? Nobody can give such confidence. But you will have to pay more interest every month for using the loan.
Many were confident that by the end of this year, the price of bitcoin will be at least one hundred thousand dollars. If someone took out a loan with such confidence, then he suffered big losses.

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December 17, 2021, 06:18:13 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
It is very risky to invest in cryptocurrency that are borrowed. I would not advise anyone to do this. Price movements in the cryptocurrency market are very unpredictable. You indicated that the price of bitcoin will rise to $ 120,000. Are you sure that by the time the loan can be repaid, the price of bitcoin will rise to such values? Nobody can give such confidence. But you will have to pay more interest every month for using the loan.
Many were confident that by the end of this year, the price of bitcoin will be at least one hundred thousand dollars. If someone took out a loan with such confidence, then he suffered big losses.
Being optimistic isnt bad but you should really think on how you gonna  repay those interest on month to month basis or depending on the contract or terms because if you dont have any source and just relying on this one then this kind of decision would be suicide.

You are really putting yourself in so much trouble because loan money and investing it on cryptocurrency market is something wont give out assurance.

Come to think even with traditional physical business wont really give out guarantees to be profitable.How much more into this speculative market?
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December 17, 2021, 07:58:39 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
It is very risky to invest in cryptocurrency that are borrowed. I would not advise anyone to do this. Price movements in the cryptocurrency market are very unpredictable. You indicated that the price of bitcoin will rise to $ 120,000. Are you sure that by the time the loan can be repaid, the price of bitcoin will rise to such values? Nobody can give such confidence. But you will have to pay more interest every month for using the loan.
Many were confident that by the end of this year, the price of bitcoin will be at least one hundred thousand dollars. If someone took out a loan with such confidence, then he suffered big losses.
Being optimistic isnt bad but you should really think on how you gonna  repay those interest on month to month basis or depending on the contract or terms because if you dont have any source and just relying on this one then this kind of decision would be suicide.

You are really putting yourself in so much trouble because loan money and investing it on cryptocurrency market is something wont give out assurance.

Come to think even with traditional physical business wont really give out guarantees to be profitable.How much more into this speculative market?
I believe investing at this moment is definitely a perfect timing but not with a borrowed money. It will only put yourself into trouble in the coming days. Although its a given fact that you will reap your profits in the future once you have reached your goal price but the question is when will it happen? Investing in crypto is a very risky decision because there is no guarantees that you won't lose in the process. So if you want to enter into crypto, invest in your own personal money that will not be used to pay your bills, otherwise you'll still be in trouble after that.

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December 18, 2021, 01:22:02 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
You must really be kidding me right? How exactly did you get to know that bitcoin is going to be reaching $120,000? Because you made that look specific like you’re very sure that the market would be getting to $120,000, how can you be so sure about that? Nobody can really say exactly where the market is heading to, and also you can already see that your prediction is not accurate, since the market has been moving the opposite direction of what you predicted, checking from the time you made this prediction.

The month can still run out and you wouldn’t see any increase to that level, but that doesn’t mean that bitcoin won’t get to a such level, it might, but you can’t tell when exactly, which is why the idea of taking loan is quite bad.
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December 18, 2021, 02:37:26 PM
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Never borrow and invest in crypto. It might be loans or borrowing money from friends or through any means, never do it. As market is volatile, we are not sure of constant return to repay the loan. At times, the return might in months or many times in a month. When there is no return, you will be put in pressure to close off your loan. Hence never borrow money from any means and invest on crypto currencies. We will be in loss and then in depression.
I agree with this. it's better to be in the safe zone, and collect it little by little than to take the risk due to speculation that still has no basis as it is today.
You can borrow to buy bitcoins, but you need to consider the risks involved. Currently, the price of bitcoin is very high, and if you are aiming to borrow money to buy more than 1 bitcoin, then you should reconsider. because the risk is too great.

people always give tips and advice like, use the money you are willing to lose. however, it seems the money from the loan is not that type of money. If you lose, then you get stress.

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December 18, 2021, 03:11:55 PM
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Never borrow and invest in crypto. It might be loans or borrowing money from friends or through any means, never do it. As market is volatile, we are not sure of constant return to repay the loan. At times, the return might in months or many times in a month. When there is no return, you will be put in pressure to close off your loan. Hence never borrow money from any means and invest on crypto currencies. We will be in loss and then in depression.
I agree with this. it's better to be in the safe zone, and collect it little by little than to take the risk due to speculation that still has no basis as it is today.
You can borrow to buy bitcoins, but you need to consider the risks involved. Currently, the price of bitcoin is very high, and if you are aiming to borrow money to buy more than 1 bitcoin, then you should reconsider. because the risk is too great.

people always give tips and advice like, use the money you are willing to lose. however, it seems the money from the loan is not that type of money. If you lose, then you get stress.
life is not for betting, by borrowing then we must be good at managing stress, so we keep thinking clearly. Isn't the business built in stages, not just wanting to get rich quick. therefore it is safest to invest with our own strength and use free money, so that we will be able to hold it for years and finally we have a target to open our investments to enjoy

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Just do it for yourself and don't fool other people especially the newbie investors with what you are saying.
Getting a loan just to invest is very risky. Maybe it is good if you risked and took a loan after the big crash in March 2020 at the start of the pandemic but right now? I don't think it will give you profits if you loan to invest into crypto. It will only give you headache.

As for me and for most here, I think its not advisable to get a loan just to invest in crypto knowing that it is a volatile market and your initial capital might loss in just a couple of weeks. On the other hand though, there is no rules saying that you should not do it. Its just that its very risky.

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Taking loan and then to invest in cryptocurrency is not a good idea because if you are not a good trader and facing great losses then you may be in a great trouble.
You might be having no idea how to return the amount of loan you brought.
Invest what you have of your own. Don't risk with anyone's assets.

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Just do it for yourself and don't fool other people especially the newbie investors with what you are saying.
Getting a loan just to invest is very risky. Maybe it is good if you risked and took a loan after the big crash in March 2020 at the start of the pandemic but right now? I don't think it will give you profits if you loan to invest into crypto. It will only give you headache.

As for me and for most here, I think its not advisable to get a loan just to invest in crypto knowing that it is a volatile market and your initial capital might loss in just a couple of weeks. On the other hand though, there is no rules saying that you should not do it. Its just that its very risky.
I agreed with what you said and even if we're not dealing with a volatile market it's never advisable to get a loan just to invest in crypto this is the habit some people called greedily. However, the market is currently in the middle of to direction right now, it could take the bull momentum or repeat the previous scenario that happened in the year 2018.

I hope the newbies won't see what she said as a piece of investment advice.

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Just do it for yourself and don't fool other people especially the newbie investors with what you are saying.
Getting a loan just to invest is very risky. Maybe it is good if you risked and took a loan after the big crash in March 2020 at the start of the pandemic but right now? I don't think it will give you profits if you loan to invest into crypto. It will only give you headache.

As for me and for most here, I think its not advisable to get a loan just to invest in crypto knowing that it is a volatile market and your initial capital might loss in just a couple of weeks. On the other hand though, there is no rules saying that you should not do it. Its just that its very risky.
I agreed with what you said and even if we're not dealing with a volatile market it's never advisable to get a loan just to invest in crypto this is the habit some people called greedily. However, the market is currently in the middle of to direction right now, it could take the bull momentum or repeat the previous scenario that happened in the year 2018.

I hope the newbies won't see what she said as a piece of investment advice.
Overall aspect then taking a loan is never been recommended! We should really make ourselves get freed with this kind of shackles on where you do have pending loans or debts which you would need to pay up and its better to have a debt-free live so that you wont really  get stressed out.

If you do see some opportunity but you do lack of funds then having this kind of option isnt really that bad as long you do know and be responsible
on paying it back in due time.

Invest and take some loan on your own risk but be prepared on something about this kind of responsibility.

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Just don't. Again, a number of posts that show zero understanding of the concept of risk. You started with clear inability to grasp what is thrid party risk with you post about stable coins, continued with not understanding the risk of fraud on a post about ICOs and the poor and now you show no hint about the risk of leveraging on a highly volatile asset. Seriously, you need to consider just reading some decent books instead of watching 30 seconds youtube videos of some stupid teenager "influencer".

Please, stop creating problems for the gullible.

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December 18, 2021, 11:26:32 PM
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Taking loan and then to invest in cryptocurrency is not a good idea because if you are not a good trader and facing great losses then you may be in a great trouble.
A very terrible idea. If those people that have done this mistake in the past could show up, they'll warn the others to not do it and would please them not to follow their paths.

You might be having no idea how to return the amount of loan you brought.
Invest what you have of your own. Don't risk with anyone's assets.
Interest would increase while the market tanks. And if the borrower would get to see the variance of it, he would just stop and won't pursue this idea. Only if he really don't want to have a lot of debt while waiting for the boom of his investment.

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Do you want to commit yourself to what you can't come out from easily? You can borrow money to invest in bitcoin but have you thought about it after diversifying your investments, it didn't work out as you planned it "bitcoin skyrocketing to $120k". What do you intend to do by then? Don't forget you borrowed the money and you intend to pay it back soon.
It's better not to invest than borrow.

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December 19, 2021, 12:13:28 PM
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have we taken into account the risk when buying now, by borrowing money... indeed, currently there is a decline in the price of almost all coins experiencing it, but do we know the price will go up soon, or even go back down again, if that's the case, have we prepared a good strategy, as well as whether our mentality is good enough to take the risk, don't let us stress after that

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This is a good plan but does not seem to be the best strategy or idea.
I personally do not like the idea of borrowing money to start up a business worst of, borrowing for an investment with which you cannot predict it's future talk more of knowing how it's next year would turn to be.

Yes, it may be a good time to buy coins but that'll be best if the income where yours and you'll not be indebted in anywhere.

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December 19, 2021, 06:28:19 PM
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As an Economist I will not advice anyone who may want invest to go and borrow money for Bitcoin investment let alone Altcoins investment this is because crypto currency market is too volatile for such high risk, except if the person is a gambler and will want to gamble his or her money.
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Well to contribute into the matter, I would also suggest that it’s bad idea to take loan and invest the money if you are not sure in what you are investing. The crypto is not that strong asset to invest considering it’s volatility which is always at the high point. Just imagine the volatility which you looking after to double your investment can also go south side and make your investment half of original putting you in dangerous situation of heavy loss. At this point you will have to cover the half loss as well as also cover the interest rate that has been decided on the loaned amount.

I am pretty sure like me others have the same view about this strategy. If you are investing your loaned amount into something like government bonds which has fixed returns then you could be some what safe.
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December 19, 2021, 11:01:15 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

What is your basis of crypto being on ATH next year? It is pure speculation, there is no proof that we can grab, even the data are not accurate in giving information. No one can really know ehat would happen to BTC next year
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Going for a loan to invest into bitcoin is good. For this user should always have plan A and plan B. Here we aren't assured of the profit, because the market volatility can give good profit as well as cause big loss. To stay high in the market and keeping the portfolio strong isn't an easy thing.

When you go for a loan it is always good to focus on cryptocurrency that give short term profiting, because higher the loan tenure higher will be the interest being paid. If the plan A didn't work, immediate execution of plan B should be done. Only then it is possible to limit the loss, else the loan along with the loss will make us suffer.

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What is your basis of crypto being on ATH next year? It is pure speculation, there is no proof that we can grab, even the data are not accurate in giving information. No one can really know ehat would happen to BTC next year

I am less optimistic. We are at the end of the 4-year cycle and for the next 1-2 years I expect the prices to go down. Most of those who profited from the 20x bull run during the last two years would be looking forward to booking profit (at least partially). And this trend will accelerate once the exchange rates stay below 50K for an extended duration. Don't forget the fact that we had close to 80%-85% correction after the rallies of 2013 and 2017. I don't expect the same in 2022-23, but looks like there will be a correction.

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My personal slogan to those I mentor is invested with spare money, even your personal money doesn't use your whole life savings to invest in bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. So investing with the loan is extremely risky.

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December 20, 2021, 01:20:49 PM
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It may be a good time to buy some very good projects now that the market is down but getting a loan to do that is not advisable in my opinion, crypto investment is risky and it is not encouraging to take a loan to invest in it,
In fact, it is advisable to only invest what you can afford to lose, so I don't think taking a loan is a wise thing to do.
Using borrowed money to invest in crypto is highly discouraged because there is no guarantee that the money will add up in the near future. I myself have never used the money I got from real world work to invest in crypto because I only used bounty and airdrop results for long term investments in crypto. by using this method I feel much calmer even though the market conditions are bearish.

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December 20, 2021, 03:27:19 PM
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What is your basis of crypto being on ATH next year? It is pure speculation, there is no proof that we can grab, even the data are not accurate in giving information. No one can really know ehat would happen to BTC next year

I am less optimistic. We are at the end of the 4-year cycle and for the next 1-2 years I expect the prices to go down. Most of those who profited from the 20x bull run during the last two years would be looking forward to booking profit (at least partially). And this trend will accelerate once the exchange rates stay below 50K for an extended duration. Don't forget the fact that we had close to 80%-85% correction after the rallies of 2013 and 2017. I don't expect the same in 2022-23, but looks like there will be a correction.
No one pray for Bitcoin downward trend but just says the fact of may happen come 2022. I do have that believe and history in this market used to repeat itself but people who invested at the wrong time will not want hear this truth because is either many of them are new to crypto currency market.
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December 20, 2021, 04:28:11 PM
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What is your basis of crypto being on ATH next year? It is pure speculation, there is no proof that we can grab, even the data are not accurate in giving information. No one can really know ehat would happen to BTC next year

I am less optimistic. We are at the end of the 4-year cycle and for the next 1-2 years I expect the prices to go down. Most of those who profited from the 20x bull run during the last two years would be looking forward to booking profit (at least partially). And this trend will accelerate once the exchange rates stay below 50K for an extended duration. Don't forget the fact that we had close to 80%-85% correction after the rallies of 2013 and 2017. I don't expect the same in 2022-23, but looks like there will be a correction.

Investing without correction is a scam, so that regardless of the current market conditions, as long as we buy it at a dip price, the 45k USD resistance value is not so scary that it creates a pessimistic feeling.  Keep it up, this is the era of BTC, stocks or bonds are just old-fashioned economic products.
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December 20, 2021, 06:28:40 PM
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How can you be sure with analysis that next year will hit ATH?. I also don't mean to say that bitcoin is incapable of hitting ATH. Since you said that now is the right time to invest and make loans to invest, this is bad advice to me. The prediction is not wrong, but sacrificing everything for the sake of a prediction by making a loan to invest is not recommended.



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December 20, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Currently, there are many financial mentors who teach about how rich people make money from debt, if the debt is put to good use, bought with crypto assets such as bitcoin or other potential tokens, then when the market is bullish the borrower gets doubled profits. Debt will be a good thing for a person when that person uses it for a promising investment.

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December 20, 2021, 08:29:41 PM
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It may be a good time to buy some very good projects now that the market is down but getting a loan to do that is not advisable in my opinion, crypto investment is risky and it is not encouraging to take a loan to invest in it,
In fact, it is advisable to only invest what you can afford to lose, so I don't think taking a loan is a wise thing to do.
Using borrowed money to invest in crypto is highly discouraged because there is no guarantee that the money will add up in the near future. I myself have never used the money I got from real world work to invest in crypto because I only used bounty and airdrop results for long term investments in crypto. by using this method I feel much calmer even though the market conditions are bearish.
I would say it is not bad to put money you earn in fiat into crypto, that is still a good idea as long as you do not take out a loan for it. Plus very rich people keep getting bigger and bigger loans and then go into bigger and bigger debts because they have assets that can cover those debts.

So, if you are truly wealthy then you could end up getting some big loans and put them into bitcoin as well, since you have assets that generate passive income then you could pay that loan back without a problem, so if you believe that you could take out a loan and pay that back without any crypto returns then that is fine as well. However, if you are a regular person like me, saving some of your earnings aside from your salary and then putting that into bitcoin is enough, if you are taking out a loan with a repayment depending on how well bitcoin does, then you are going to be screwed.

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December 20, 2021, 09:49:13 PM
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It may be a good time to buy some very good projects now that the market is down but getting a loan to do that is not advisable in my opinion, crypto investment is risky and it is not encouraging to take a loan to invest in it,
In fact, it is advisable to only invest what you can afford to lose, so I don't think taking a loan is a wise thing to do.
Using borrowed money to invest in crypto is highly discouraged because there is no guarantee that the money will add up in the near future. I myself have never used the money I got from real world work to invest in crypto because I only used bounty and airdrop results for long term investments in crypto. by using this method I feel much calmer even though the market conditions are bearish.
I would say it is not bad to put money you earn in fiat into crypto, that is still a good idea as long as you do not take out a loan for it. Plus very rich people keep getting bigger and bigger loans and then go into bigger and bigger debts because they have assets that can cover those debts.

So, if you are truly wealthy then you could end up getting some big loans and put them into bitcoin as well, since you have assets that generate passive income then you could pay that loan back without a problem, so if you believe that you could take out a loan and pay that back without any crypto returns then that is fine as well. However, if you are a regular person like me, saving some of your earnings aside from your salary and then putting that into bitcoin is enough, if you are taking out a loan with a repayment depending on how well bitcoin does, then you are going to be screwed.
Never ever consider your crypto gains to be the ones who would really be paying up your bills and those loan interest because this market wont really be giving out guarantees that you could really make out money.

Whenever you do try to compare yourself into those rich and wealthy people then better not yet you would just pity up yourself in regarding into your condition in terms of finances.

Just let them be because they had something to spare up whenever their investment do fail.They would still able to repay those loans if they wanted to.

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December 20, 2021, 09:55:54 PM
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Of course bear season has always been the best time to bag more coins but I would never advise anyone to take up loan because you never can tell when the invested coins would generate profits for you. However, it might even dip the more till your pay back time complete.

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December 20, 2021, 10:45:48 PM
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yes btc can go as high as $120k, but no one knows when that will happen. if you learn bitcoin investing properly and know how the bitcoin price moves you will not use the money from a loan to invest in bitcoin. many predicted that before the end of the year bitcoin price would reach $100k, but in reality the prediction was wrong because bitcoin only reached its highest point in the $69k range. meaning that your predictions about the price of bitcoin are also potentially wrong like most people's predictions.
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December 21, 2021, 03:10:20 AM
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yes btc can go as high as $120k, but no one knows when that will happen. if you learn bitcoin investing properly and know how the bitcoin price moves you will not use the money from a loan to invest in bitcoin. many predicted that before the end of the year bitcoin price would reach $100k, but in reality the prediction was wrong because bitcoin only reached its highest point in the $69k range. meaning that your predictions about the price of bitcoin are also potentially wrong like most people's predictions.

Then why do you take the risk of taking a loan then if you don't know if bitcoin can go to $100k or $10k in the future? You are putting yourself in jeopardy and this is not a good financial advise in my opinion.

Yes, the prediction is already wrong, no 6 digits in sight and this is another lessons to learn in crypto.
So for me, it's better not to listen to this so called influencers or from those who predicted the price as they will be obviously just like you and me, making a wild and educated guess.

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Then why do you take the risk of taking a loan then if you don't know if bitcoin can go to $100k or $10k in the future? You are putting yourself in jeopardy and this is not a good financial advise in my opinion.

Yes, the prediction is already wrong, no 6 digits in sight and this is another lessons to learn in crypto.
So for me, it's better not to listen to this so called influencers or from those who predicted the price as they will be obviously just like you and me, making a wild and educated guess.
That will be the most foolish thing I can ever think about and that I can never do. The only thing I can do is to take a loan using my bitcoin as a collateral which is still better than just taking a loan. So if I do not pay on time, my bitcoin will be liquidated. This is a good strategy that rich people can use to avoid paying excessive taxes. But for someone to just decide to borrow money for bitcoin investment, it is absolutely foolishness if not well planned. In the next bull cycle, I believe some people having high amount of bitcoin holding that doe not want to sell will just have to loan another coins or currencies while holding their bitcoin as collateral.

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December 26, 2021, 09:40:10 AM
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Investments and, what is more, risky investments must be done only using money that you have saved on your own. It is a terrible mistake to take loans and invest borrowed money in crypto. It is impossible to predict for sure the movement of the market in the short term, so it is better to invest in the long term and use your own money.

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December 26, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
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Investments and, what is more, risky investments must be done only using money that you have saved on your own. It is a terrible mistake to take loans and invest borrowed money in crypto. It is impossible to predict for sure the movement of the market in the short term, so it is better to invest in the long term and use your own money.
It's too risky to use borrowed money and use it to invest in crypto,
however it is not the right decision and need to consider strongly if making that decision,
It's clear that everyone is responsible for their own decisions

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December 26, 2021, 10:49:04 AM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
You are claiming that Bitcoin will be priced at $ 120,000. What guarantees can there be that such a price tag will be in the near future? Yes, no, it's the same with the metaverse. The wrong investment will lead to huge problems for the investor who took out the loan. Moreover, this loan must be repaid on a monthly basis, I doubt that the portfolio will grow monthly.
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December 26, 2021, 04:42:36 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 

Should you choose to use loans as a means of buying bitcoin, you will quickly make a new friend called interest payments; and you will see how much of your gains get wiped out just from holding that cash you never owned.

Purchase with cash, nothing else.

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December 26, 2021, 08:41:33 PM
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Investments and, what is more, risky investments must be done only using money that you have saved on your own. It is a terrible mistake to take loans and invest borrowed money in crypto. It is impossible to predict for sure the movement of the market in the short term, so it is better to invest in the long term and use your own money.
Truly a mistake if someone does this. Investing the money of others in the form of loan and putting a lot of risk to himself because there's the loan and adding the market volatility.
It's not a good strategy and start if you're investing in the crypto market. Using your own money is very much advisable because if you lose, you can lightly accept it.

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December 26, 2021, 09:24:38 PM
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Investments and, what is more, risky investments must be done only using money that you have saved on your own. It is a terrible mistake to take loans and invest borrowed money in crypto. It is impossible to predict for sure the movement of the market in the short term, so it is better to invest in the long term and use your own money.
Truly a mistake if someone does this. Investing the money of others in the form of loan and putting a lot of risk to himself because there's the loan and adding the market volatility.
It's not a good strategy and start if you're investing in the crypto market. Using your own money is very much advisable because if you lose, you can lightly accept it.
Mistakes in general sense but there are exemptions if you do know on how to repay those debts or loans responsibly because it all matters if someone do able to do so or would fail to do so.
It is just having two possible scenarios could happen along the way thats why we do make out some conclusions directly just because we arent taking loans but for those people
who are in short in finances then i wont really be surprised on having this kind of option which supposed to be placed on last resort.Honestly i have done this stuff
but im just responsible on paying those back whether you do make profits or not.

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December 26, 2021, 10:40:26 PM
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Investments and, what is more, risky investments must be done only using money that you have saved on your own. It is a terrible mistake to take loans and invest borrowed money in crypto. It is impossible to predict for sure the movement of the market in the short term, so it is better to invest in the long term and use your own money.
Truly a mistake if someone does this. Investing the money of others in the form of loan and putting a lot of risk to himself because there's the loan and adding the market volatility.
It's not a good strategy and start if you're investing in the crypto market. Using your own money is very much advisable because if you lose, you can lightly accept it.
Mistakes in general sense but there are exemptions if you do know on how to repay those debts or loans responsibly because it all matters if someone do able to do so or would fail to do so.
It is just having two possible scenarios could happen along the way thats why we do make out some conclusions directly just because we arent taking loans but for those people
who are in short in finances then i wont really be surprised on having this kind of option which supposed to be placed on last resort.Honestly i have done this stuff
but im just responsible on paying those back whether you do make profits or not.
If you're responsible enough on paying on time your debt and if you think that you can make it always without any default, you do what's the best in your capability.
But it's common that they did the loan just for investing in the crypto of their choice and don't have any other way of making another source of income which leads them to a bigger debt.

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December 27, 2021, 10:06:46 AM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
That's just a mere speculation and quite impossible to assume that bitcoin would really reach $120k for the year 2022. The market just had reached $68k all time high last month, so that prediction is really too much to expect. And personally, I'm not really going to advice anyone to borrow some money just to invest in bitcoin when especially the market's volatility is really unpredictable so instead of making proifts, chances are you're going to be the reason for someone's loss and buried in tragic debts.
Folks, let's not forget to only invest what we can afford to lose because cryptocurrencies doesn't assure you to make profits.

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December 27, 2021, 06:01:51 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Well said but not really advisable, because no body can tell what cryptocurrency market price can do. It's good to buy at a very low price and sell after pump, but taking loan or borrowing money to invest in cryptocurrency is entirely not advisable because of the higher risk involved. Moreover it's advisable not to invest what you can't afford to loose, and loan money cannot be lost because it's not my personal belonging.

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December 27, 2021, 07:53:52 PM
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Maybe now its a good time to invest
And borrow money.
Btc goes 120,000$  if you buy now you make like over 60,000$ profit.
But dont buy just btc divide ur portfolio ...
Buy few metaverse few top coins maybe web3 and u wait ATH and you sell it.
Pay i ng back loan and u are in profit.
Next year as we all know ATH 
Good advise but it's not the best currently because the market can just decides to go completely bearish and never comes up to the particular level, maybe after many months which may make one or the borrower to incur more dept before the market comes to normal. This is not a good idea for me currently. The market is scary right now.

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December 29, 2021, 04:05:57 AM
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Investments and, what is more, risky investments must be done only using money that you have saved on your own. It is a terrible mistake to take loans and invest borrowed money in crypto. It is impossible to predict for sure the movement of the market in the short term, so it is better to invest in the long term and use your own money.
It's too risky to use borrowed money and use it to invest in crypto,
however it is not the right decision and need to consider strongly if making that decision,
It's clear that everyone is responsible for their own decisions
I have known bitcoin since early 2017 and until now I do not dare to use borrowed money to invest in crypto because I understand very well that investing in crypto is an investment that has a very high risk. Market conditions are completely unpredictable and there is no guarantee that the targets you set will be achieved as expected. the best way is to use your own money or you can participate in airdrops or bounties and use the money generated to invest in the crypto of your choice.
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December 29, 2021, 05:29:00 AM
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I think borrowing money to invest in crypto is not the right decision, in the crypto world the risk for loss is quite large. it is better to invest in the world of dead money crypto.
before investing into the crypto world, analyze what coin you choose, learn how the coin will be profitable or lose in the future.

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December 29, 2021, 05:49:15 AM
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I think borrowing money to invest in crypto is not the right decision, in the crypto world the risk for loss is quite large.
You are right, the risk is quite large but it depends on how you handle the risk, otherwise, no one would invest their money here because they only see the risk not the opportunity. If one can borrow money to start a business, I think it's not bad to borrow money to invest in crypto.

it is better to invest in the world of dead money crypto.
before investing into the crypto world, analyze what coin you choose, learn how the coin will be profitable or lose in the future.

Can you explain this words " world of dead money crypto"?
Sorry, I don't get what you are trying t convey.

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December 29, 2021, 06:49:37 AM
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This is a bad advice Grin, I've lost so many profits this year simply because I believe that bitcoin is going to 100k and I don't take the profits later it never happened and I walk away with what I could, the truth is BTC have already did so well since last year 2020 asking for more is just suicidal

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December 29, 2021, 12:37:55 PM
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I think borrowing money to invest in crypto is not the right decision, in the crypto world the risk for loss is quite large. it is better to invest in the world of dead money crypto.
before investing into the crypto world, analyze what coin you choose, learn how the coin will be profitable or lose in the future.

It is definitely not the right decision and not advisable at the same time. I've been trading crypto for a quite long time and not even once did I consider making a loan or borrowing money not in a bank or even in my friend just to invest in cryptocurrency because I know the risk of putting money in crypto. At the same time, we always have reminded here in the forum to only put your money in investment or trading that you are willing or afford to lose, so if that money that you use will come at loan then this is a clear indication that you can't afford to lose it.
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