JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas

[JayJuanGee]

He should have know that when you’re selling your bitcoin all in the name of merely trading to have profits which I will suggest that it’s a desperation and negligence from the individual to keep being interested in the four years circle because I think that the four years circle doesn’t guarantee anything, and you can possibly buy and accumulate bitcoin for at least, 4 years which is one circle and it still doesn’t determine anything because they could still end up not having enough profits, we all know that bitcoin investments profit isn’t a guarantee, and it could only have a positive effect when you have been accumulating more with a high discretionary income.

For sure, even guys who are inclined towards investing can get lured into trading (or selling with an intention of buying back cheaper or even just cutting losses when there are assessments that the odds of downward BTC price moves has become high). .. So there may well be some needs for a certain amount of tolerance for guys who could get sucked into trading and even into shitcoins, even though my ongoing assertion has been that guys should try to limit their own exposure to those temptations, and surely it becomes even more problematic if they are either promoting trading/shitcoin ideas in this thread and trying to suggest they are investing, when it starts to become clear that they have greatly deviated from the thread's topic...and even guys who talk about general investing topics, and do not relate some of their ideas to my own investment ideas, they may well be deviating from the thread too.. .. since some guys will come into the thread with cookie-cutter views of investing including some of the diversification ideas that I find to be problematic for bitcoin newbies, and it can be off topic too, if going too much into talking about other investments, such as property and gold, even though I have had some tolerance to some discussions in this thread related to those comparisons of bitcoin to other assets matters.

Yes, it can actually be frustrating/ annoying to see people introduce the ideas that end up misleading newbies who are genuinely trying to learn the basic of the investment ideas, expecialy in a focused discussion thread like this. I must agree with you that  when the conversation divert to trading or promotion of other coins, it sometimes blurs the lines for newbies who may not yet understand the risks involved. However,  it's true that some folks get pulled into trading with the intention of buying back lower or even reacting emotionally by selling thier bitcoin during downturns and all these are expected since it's volatile in nature. That temptation is real and that's a total approach mistakes, especially for those without much experience.

Surely, there may be some presumptions that we might do in relation to who we expect to be investing into bitcoin and also supplementing their bitcoin investment by building their cashflow management along side of their bitcoin investment... so yeah, there may be some guys who are more distracted or lured into trading and/or shitcoins than others, and surely if they might be trying to mostly focus on bitcoin and their getting through their strengthening of their cashflow management, then they might realize that if they do get distracted by shitcoins and/or trading, then maybe at least they can limit their exposure to those activities..  Of course, another distraction these days might be bitcoin treasuries, like MSTR and related products and also the bitcoin spot ETFs, and so there can be a variety of challenges that may well include what seems to be new shitcoins.. and yeah, how much of their portfolio ends up getging lured into inferior products might be a question of self-discipline and maybe learning along the way if mistakes are made (hoping that none of the damages from the mistakes end up getting the newbies too far off track and that the newbies can at least make it through a whole cycle.. which seems that many of us might feel that we had ended up learning quite a bit about bitcoin  and bitcoin related matters if we can build our bitcoin holdings and survive through at least a whole cycle.

In my own opinion, it's far more beneficial for some folks to build thier confidence in a long-term strategy by focusing or investing on a valuable asset like bitcoin than chasing quick profits/gains, staying consistent and avoiding unnecessary distractions from any folks can make you, as bitcoin investor a big difference over time.

Both you and I might believe these things, and I tend to both proclaim it is a bad idea to get distracted into shitcoins, trading and/or bitcoin paper products, yet at the same time, if guys want to experiment, it can be hard to stop them and maybe better to suggest that they just limit their exposure to those inferior products/practices such as less than 10% the size of their bitcoin holdings.

He should understand that selling all your Bitcoin just to chase profits is often driven by impatience, not strategy. Relying blindly on the four-year cycle is also risky it’s a pattern, not a guarantee. Someone can accumulate for four years and still not achieve the expected returns, because Bitcoin doesn’t promise profits on any fixed timeline.

What truly matters is consistency and capacity. Bitcoin rewards those who keep accumulating over time, especially as their discretionary income improves. Focusing only on when to sell misses the bigger picture. A disciplined investor doesn’t depend on cycles or rush to exit completely. Instead, they accumulate steadily, increase their position as income grows, and allow time not speculation  to drive results.

You are all over the map @Grease5000.  I made a pretty extensive reply to you in an earlier post where you were talking about trading the cycle, and now you are trying to act like you know what investing is?

Maybe you should respond to my earlier response to you?

Why would they take partial profits? are they real investors or mere traders, buying at lower prices and waiting for bull season to take profits is trading your portfolio, only traders go for short-term profits. Investors keep holding and adding to their portfolio and are not distracted or attempt to change strategy when their investment starts getting profitable in bull season, it is a better practice to maintain your consistency in your accumulation journey and remain committed to long-term holding than targeting short-term profits.

People can take either partial or total profit after a price move without being a short-term trader or having a short-term focus. long-term investors will also take profits over time as a means of managing risk and preserving their capital. The market is unpredictable, so locking in a portion of your profits will provide you freedom to re-enter the market if you choose, and give you peace of mind as an investor. However, while taking profit along the way is good for your overall investment plan, it is still important to continue to invest in accordance with your long-term investment strategy and accumulate wealth over time.

Of course, you can do whatever you want @WIYO1, yet there is almost no way that you are talking about investing rather than trading, even if you want to proclaim that what you are doing is investing.

You may well need to provide some context for what the fuck you are talking about and how you are on topic, here since we are talking about investing and not trading - even though there could be some contexts in which I might agree with what you are saying, but I have my doubt... and instead I get the sense that you have a quite loose perception of investing, and you are wanting to ongoingly consider weaving trading into what you consider to be your investment into bitcoin, yet you are likely playing loosey goosey with the terms, including flaunting one of my own expectations that for the most part (absent some compelling kinds of circumstances) investors do not sell all or even large portions of their bitcoin with expectations to buy back cheaper, since that would cause them to be a trader rather than an investor.. even though guys can do whatever they like, including spontaneously (and/or accidentally) doing something like that.. which would probably be considered to be a mistake rather than something that any "real investor" would consider to be within good practices.

If a guy is in bitcoin for a few years and he is accumulating bitcoin quite aggressively, then there might be very rare occasions in which it would be justifiable for him to sell all of his bitcoin or even a large portion of his bitcoin.  There could be some justification to sell some portions of his bitcoin while still considering himself to be staying focused on investing rather than trading and to be considering himself to be "staying in his investment" rather than abandoning it.

Surely, guys have free choice to abandon their bitcoin investment at any time, whether they are brand new, a few years into their investment or even more than a cycle or two into it, yet the context varies in terms of whether we might still consider them an investor rather than a trader.

DCA is not done only during the bear season, it should not be stopped when bitcoin price starts appreciating or bull seasons comes by. As long as the investor is yet to reach his accumulation target, it is important they continue adding to their portfolio as long as they have discretionary income available. Bitcoin investment should be for the long-term and accumulation using DCA should be a consistent endeavor and not a seasonal activity like you mentioned.

Even if the market is now in a bullish phase, DCA does not end. Consistency of accumulation is far more important than timing the market - so keep adding positively at both down market and up market prices to balance out the impact of volatility over time. Continuing to use extra resources to stick with your plan adds security not only to your emotions but gives you a better long-term investment position compared to an approach that considers investing to be a seasonal venture.

You seem to be contradicting yourself here, @WIYO1 and now, in this part of your post, you seem to be suggesting both ongoing accumulation and not attempting to be "seasonal" in regards to bitcoin investing.

[Brizi5000]

Using the aggressive approach to buy bitcoin is solely dependent on their discretionary income however not everyone get the luxury to frontload their bitcoin or adopt the aggressive approach to their accumulation and it's fine to work with your financial capability. Bitcoin was designed for everybody and both the poor aren't left out, they can still work with their capacity and investing accordingly to their financial strength provided it's coming from their discretionary income they can invest and hold for long term like every investor, the only persons who would be putting their finance in problem when they invest is those without discritionary income.

There's nothing wrong with someone approaching Bitcoin with the goal of accumulating, which can be done aggressively. This indicates that anyone can do it in any way or amount. Clearly anyone who does this prioritizes having discretionary income. This means that no matter how much income they use they won't encounter any problems. Without discretionary income they still can't do it even with various methods. Accumulating Bitcoin is certainly possible for anyone but not everyone can do it aggressively as it depends on their financial resources. Therefore if you have a small income it's better not to do it aggressively but rather to do it in a way that's easy to understand. Forcing yourself to accumulate by force will ultimately lead to problems.

What are you even saying? I wonder what could possibly be your own definition of investing aggressively, look let me tell that even those that small income and are able to identify or figure their discretionary income they can do it aggressively as little or much as they can without forcing themselves to do more than they should have, anyone can be aggressive in their own kind of way and within their boundaries.

I agree with you to some point, because whether small income or not it doesn't stop an investor from being aggressive in their Bitcoin accumulation because sometimes what matters is financial management skill, the kind of expenses they are taking care of because when someone has a good manage skill and doesn't have a challenging expenses, they will have a good discretionary income to be aggressive when there is Dip and even if the expenses is challenging they can still be aggressive if they have saved up some reasonable amount of money from their discretionary.

A long term investor doesn’t have to wait until its dip before he can buy bitcoin aggressively as he can buy aggressively at any Market price depending on his financial capacity. Buying bitcoin aggressively isn’t only when there’s dip but at any market price depending on the investor’s financial power to buy aggressively with his discretionary income. But they must understand that aggressive buying doesn’t mean they must save up money and wait until its dip it before they can buy aggressively because if they decide to save money and wait to buy aggressively when it’s dip then it’s is no longer a DCA buying but buying the dip which is a traders mindset to save up money to accumulate bitcoin when it’s dip. When buying aggressively you should try not to be over aggressive by using income meant to settle their basic expenses.

[gracreavix]

He should understand that selling all your Bitcoin just to chase profits is often driven by impatience, not strategy. Relying blindly on the four-year cycle is also risky it’s a pattern, not a guarantee. Someone can accumulate for four years and still not achieve the expected returns, because Bitcoin doesn’t promise profits on any fixed timeline.

What truly matters is consistency and capacity. Bitcoin rewards those who keep accumulating over time, especially as their discretionary income improves. Focusing only on when to sell misses the bigger picture. A disciplined investor doesn’t depend on cycles or rush to exit completely. Instead, they accumulate steadily, increase their position as income grows, and allow time not speculation  to drive results.

You are all over the map @Grease5000.  I made a pretty extensive reply to you in an earlier post where you were talking about trading the cycle, and now you are trying to act like you know what investing is?

it’s obvious, he isn’t even paying attention to the informations here and the corrections your gave to him. I don’t see the reason why someone would be acting pretentious about understanding investment, why he obviously doesn’t. It’s not something anyone should be ashamed of, because that’s the reason why we’re here in the first place, to LEARN.
So you sounding like a trader in the first place, then with the same breath coming to teach about investing like you’re so grounded on that, looks somehow.
My advise to you @Grease5000 is, you should take your time and read through the replies that was given to you by JJG, and also read through this thread, because there’s a lot of information out here that would make you understand the whole concept of investing in bitcoin properly.

[Showlove01]

People can take either partial or total profit after a price move without being a short-term trader or having a short-term focus.

So you would suggest a guy take profit from his stash without yet reaching accumulation target first ?. If your goal is long term holding then you have no business scraping for profit because by doing that, you are actually sabotaging your long term position and slowing down your stacking progress which makes it hard for you to hit your accumulation target faster.
Scraping for profit is the mindset of a trader and that’s not what this thread is about. If you haven’t reached accumulation target yet, then your focus should be on stacking rather than selling because that’s what differentiates a trader from an investor.

Reaching accumulation target doesn't still mean an investor should take or temper there Investment because once you temper with your investment on getting to your target, you will fall from that target so the only acceptable time to temper our investment is when have gotten to what is called overaccumulation stage because on this stage you can't fall even if you tamper your investment because you are already beyond that target and before you will fall back below your target you must have increase a bit that is why we should not also relent even in overaccumulation stage.

[CageMabok]

I agree with you to some point, because whether small income or not it doesn't stop an investor from being aggressive in their Bitcoin accumulation because sometimes what matters is financial management skill, the kind of expenses they are taking care of because when someone has a good manage skill and doesn't have a challenging expenses, they will have a good discretionary income to be aggressive when there is Dip and even if the expenses is challenging they can still be aggressive if they have saved up some reasonable amount of money from their discretionary.

Actually, being aggressive at certain times is simply a way to capitalize on price drops, as they don't always happen in the market. Therefore, any investor who frequently bought Bitcoin in the past will prefer to take advantage of these moments to acquire more Bitcoin at that moment. So, such an attitude is temporary, whereas a wise attitude of regularly accumulating Bitcoin is the primary attitude of investors who are accumulating more Bitcoin to save for their future assets. And the good thing for Bitcoin is that if many investors adopt this approach, it will remain strong in the market without being affected by any issues.

[Humblevirus]

People can take either partial or total profit after a price move without being a short-term trader or having a short-term focus.

So you would suggest a guy take profit from his stash without yet reaching accumulation target first ?. If your goal is long term holding then you have no business scraping for profit because by doing that, you are actually sabotaging your long term position and slowing down your stacking progress which makes it hard for you to hit your accumulation target faster.
Scraping for profit is the mindset of a trader and that’s not what this thread is about. If you haven’t reached accumulation target yet, then your focus should be on stacking rather than selling because that’s what differentiates a trader from an investor.

Reaching accumulation target doesn't still mean an investor should take or temper there Investment because once you temper with your investment on getting to your target, you will fall from that target so the only acceptable time to temper our investment is when have gotten to what is called overaccumulation stage because on this stage you can't fall even if you tamper your investment because you are already beyond that target and before you will fall back below your target you must have increase a bit that is why we should not also relent even in overaccumulation stage.

Once an investor reaches the accumulation stage target and has already made some profits, they can start taking profits and use them for whatever they want. It doesn’t necessarily mean that someone has to keep accumulating before they can start making adjustments to their Bitcoin investment.The important thing after reaching the target point is whether the investor is in profit. If the investor has made some profit, it is wise to start taking profits by selling part of their Bitcoin. If the person does not have an immediate use for the money, they can sell a portion of their Bitcoin investment, keep the money, and wait for a dip.I think it is a good idea to start setting targets once someone has reached their accumulation goal.

[whiteblue]

If a guy is in bitcoin for a few years and he is accumulating bitcoin quite aggressively, then there might be very rare occasions in which it would be justifiable for him to sell all of his bitcoin or even a large portion of his bitcoin.  There could be some justification to sell some portions of his bitcoin while still considering himself to be staying focused on investing rather than trading and to be considering himself to be "staying in his investment" rather than abandoning it.

It seems that way. If they invested in Bitcoin for approximately 10 years, it's likely some are selling their BTC in small amounts.
The reason might be to enjoy it, and they're also holding Bitcoin for retirement.

It's a success for those who have held Bitcoin for a long time because they weathered many bitter cycles, Fake news, and severe crashes, but they persevered and continued buying.

On the other hand, the advancement of the era with soaring demand for Bitcoin is encouraging early holders to Hold Bitcoin until they grow old. I plan to strengthen my confidence to hold on for longer, just as early investors did in years past.

[Joy- maker]

Once an investor reaches the accumulation stage target and has already made some profits, they can start taking profits and use them for whatever they want. It doesn’t necessarily mean that someone has to keep accumulating before they can start making adjustments to their Bitcoin investment.The important thing after reaching the target point is whether the investor is in profit. If the investor has made some profit, it is wise to start taking profits by selling part of their Bitcoin. If the person does not have an immediate use for the money, they can sell a portion of their Bitcoin investment, keep the money, and wait for a dip.I think it is a good idea to start setting targets once someone has reached their accumulation goal.

I won't disagree nor agree with you, but Let me say it differently. If an investor reaches their accumulating target I wouldn't advise they start selling immediately to take profit. Instead I would advice them to hold on to their Bitcoin for more years, Why rush to take profit if they won't be needing the money anytime soon?

It may seem wise to start taking profit immediately they reach their accumulating target, but that is not necessarily the best approach if you ask . As an investor with a long term mindset, you shouldn't rush to take profit when you don't need the money. instead consider buying dips and adding to your existing Bitcoin portfolio. However, everybody is free to do what they feel is best with their Bitcoin investment.

[Charcol]

Once an investor reaches the accumulation stage target and has already made some profits, they can start taking profits and use them for whatever they want. It doesn’t necessarily mean that someone has to keep accumulating before they can start making adjustments to their Bitcoin investment.The important thing after reaching the target point is whether the investor is in profit. If the investor has made some profit, it is wise to start taking profits by selling part of their Bitcoin. If the person does not have an immediate use for the money, they can sell a portion of their Bitcoin investment, keep the money, and wait for a dip.I think it is a good idea to start setting targets once someone has reached their accumulation goal.

I won't disagree nor disagree with you, but Let me say it differently. If an investor reaches their accumulating target I wouldn't advise they start selling immediately to take profit. Instead I would advice them to hold on to their Bitcoin for more years, Why rush to take profit if they won't be needing the money anytime soon?

It may seem wise to start taking profit immediately they reach their accumulating target, but that is not necessarily the best approach if you ask . As an investor with a long term mindset, you shouldn't rush to take profit when you don't need the money. instead consider buying dips and adding to your existing Bitcoin portfolio. However, everybody is free to do what they feel is best with their Bitcoin investment.

And the biggest thing is, after reaching the savings goal, will he have to sell it? If he decides to sell it, what will he do with that money?

If he keeps the money in fiat, he will face inflation. Again, if he keeps it in bonds, the real income will naturally decrease. If he wants to keep it in real estate, liquidity decreases at present and maintenance costs increase. And if I suppose he keeps it in stocks, then I would say that there is a risk of currency depreciation.

So I would say that without a reasonable answer to these questions, there is no point in selling capital.

[Patrol69]

Using the aggressive approach to buy bitcoin is solely dependent on their discretionary income however not everyone get the luxury to frontload their bitcoin or adopt the aggressive approach to their accumulation and it's fine to work with your financial capability. Bitcoin was designed for everybody and both the poor aren't left out, they can still work with their capacity and investing accordingly to their financial strength provided it's coming from their discretionary income they can invest and hold for long term like every investor, the only persons who would be putting their finance in problem when they invest is those without discritionary income.

There's nothing wrong with someone approaching Bitcoin with the goal of accumulating, which can be done aggressively. This indicates that anyone can do it in any way or amount. Clearly anyone who does this prioritizes having discretionary income. This means that no matter how much income they use they won't encounter any problems. Without discretionary income they still can't do it even with various methods. Accumulating Bitcoin is certainly possible for anyone but not everyone can do it aggressively as it depends on their financial resources. Therefore if you have a small income it's better not to do it aggressively but rather to do it in a way that's easy to understand. Forcing yourself to accumulate by force will ultimately lead to problems.

What are you even saying? I wonder what could possibly be your own definition of investing aggressively, look let me tell that even those that small income and are able to identify or figure their discretionary income they can do it aggressively as little or much as they can without forcing themselves to do more than they should have, anyone can be aggressive in their own kind of way and within their boundaries.

Not only in Bitcoin investment but in any work, you should not be aggressive, because no work is good if you rush. Rather, the work you do aggressively will be wrong in some way or the other, in terms of investment, you are investing in Bitcoin for the long term, so there is no need to rush in this case. Rather, if you invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly, and patiently maintain it for a long time, then of course your Bitcoin investment will be profitable.

But whenever you invest in Bitcoin aggressively, and in the greed of earning more money, you borrow money and invest in Bitcoin. Then you will face more pressure, as a result, you may face problems with Bitcoin investment. That is why you should never rush in Bitcoin investment, with your optional income, you continue to invest in Bitcoin patiently and keep the investment for a long time.

So what advice would you give to a new investor? For those who are new to investing, would you say that it is not right to rush but to invest with time. It is important to start investing quickly because it is the right decision for an investor to start at that price level. Those who wait and think that they will buy at the right price time, but they delay their investment too much and in many cases they are not able to invest.

Now coming to the main discussion, your point is that one should never rush into investing and should always follow the weekly DCA, you are right on your part but for those whose Discretionary Income is relatively high and who are able to maintain a consistent purchase of large amounts of Bitcoin aggressively, there is actually nothing wrong with rushing into investing or investing aggressively. An investor needs to understand how his income is going and how his expenses are going. 
If the discretionary income is good enough, then an investor can invest a relatively large amount of money consistently and also build a strong backup fund with that money. In other words, the main thing is whether the investor will invest aggressively or gradually, it will depend entirely on the investor.

[Itz-prisigold]

Not only in Bitcoin investment but in any work, you should not be aggressive, because no work is good if you rush. Rather, the work you do aggressively will be wrong in some way or the other, in terms of investment, you are investing in Bitcoin for the long term, so there is no need to rush in this case. Rather, if you invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly, and patiently maintain it for a long time, then of course your Bitcoin investment will be profitable.

But whenever you invest in Bitcoin aggressively, and in the greed of earning more money, you borrow money and invest in Bitcoin. Then you will face more pressure, as a result, you may face problems with Bitcoin investment. That is why you should never rush in Bitcoin investment, with your optional income, you continue to invest in Bitcoin patiently and keep the investment for a long time.

I think the biggest problem in this scenario is the manner in which you are defining aggressive. You are actually taking aggressive investing as the act of rushing or the individual is making a move due to greed or even borrowing money to forced large positions. But that is not what it is all about, that is merely bad decision making.

Being aggressive here just simply means when someone is making use of their available funds that he or she can afford to accumulate Bitcoin without putting yourself under pressure, and not about how fast a person move or how much risk you force on yourself. You can remain patient, do DCA, and invest long term, and at the same time be aggressive within your means.

It is not, therefore, a case of aggressive vs patient. You can be both. The actual difference is that someone is working within a proper structure or if they are just acting impulsively. See once a person have structure in place, aggressiveness can be controlled and not acting reckless.

[alankasman]

I think the biggest problem in this scenario is the manner in which you are defining aggressive. You are actually taking aggressive investing as the act of rushing or the individual is making a move due to greed or even borrowing money to forced large positions. But that is not what it is all about, that is merely bad decision making.

This is more likely due to those who sometimes misunderstand what aggressive means making it easier to attribute someone's aggressive approach to the mistake of accumulating the amount they plan to invest in Bitcoin. In fact they've discussed their plan long before doing so. If it weren't for that they wouldn't have done it aggressively. This indicates that they're misinterpreting what someone is doing being too greedy not understanding the ins and outs and discussing the plan before they do it. Those who engage in aggressive Bitcoin accumulation have already discussed their plan.

Being aggressive here just simply means when someone is making use of their available funds that he or she can afford to accumulate Bitcoin without putting yourself under pressure, and not about how fast a person move or how much risk you force on yourself. You can remain patient, do DCA, and invest long term, and at the same time be aggressive within your means.

This is a very appropriate answer to be understood by all parties because every person or party who wants to start investing with a healthy mindset will certainly invest without having to trouble themselves meaning that today the income they have, for example is 50%, of course the person will do it with 30% to accumulate Bitcoin while the remaining 20% ​​is only for needs that must be spent meaning that every time they accumulate the person must see how much income they have during the week and likewise sometimes they have more sources of income than what we mentioned earlier they must also do it in a way that does not make it difficult for someone to live their life which is clear every time they accumulate Bitcoin of course adjustments will be made to the results or sources obtained so that for sufficient needs and for investing also run smoothly because these two things are very necessary to do but it is all based on the income we have without bothering ourselves in doing it so that when we have implemented it whatever way we do it it is all up to us whether in the long term or short term.

[ZeroVinsonN]

Using the aggressive approach to buy bitcoin is solely dependent on their discretionary income however not everyone get the luxury to frontload their bitcoin or adopt the aggressive approach to their accumulation and it's fine to work with your financial capability. Bitcoin was designed for everybody and both the poor aren't left out, they can still work with their capacity and investing accordingly to their financial strength provided it's coming from their discretionary income they can invest and hold for long term like every investor, the only persons who would be putting their finance in problem when they invest is those without discritionary income.

There's nothing wrong with someone approaching Bitcoin with the goal of accumulating, which can be done aggressively. This indicates that anyone can do it in any way or amount. Clearly anyone who does this prioritizes having discretionary income. This means that no matter how much income they use they won't encounter any problems. Without discretionary income they still can't do it even with various methods. Accumulating Bitcoin is certainly possible for anyone but not everyone can do it aggressively as it depends on their financial resources. Therefore if you have a small income it's better not to do it aggressively but rather to do it in a way that's easy to understand. Forcing yourself to accumulate by force will ultimately lead to problems.

What are you even saying? I wonder what could possibly be your own definition of investing aggressively, look let me tell that even those that small income and are able to identify or figure their discretionary income they can do it aggressively as little or much as they can without forcing themselves to do more than they should have, anyone can be aggressive in their own kind of way and within their boundaries.

Not only in Bitcoin investment but in any work, you should not be aggressive, because no work is good if you rush. Rather, the work you do aggressively will be wrong in some way or the other, in terms of investment, you are investing in Bitcoin for the long term, so there is no need to rush in this case. Rather, if you invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly, and patiently maintain it for a long time, then of course your Bitcoin investment will be profitable.

But whenever you invest in Bitcoin aggressively, and in the greed of earning more money, you borrow money and invest in Bitcoin. Then you will face more pressure, as a result, you may face problems with Bitcoin investment. That is why you should never rush in Bitcoin investment, with your optional income, you continue to invest in Bitcoin patiently and keep the investment for a long time.

You should hurry to start Bitcoin. Some new investors decide to start late to gain experience about Bitcoin, but they should start with any size of fund. Rushing to accumulate Bitcoin is not always a good idea, but it is a good idea for some investors. If you have the cash available, buy Bitcoin quickly before its price increases.
You should not rush if you are not disciplined in investing in Bitcoin for the long term. Consider a Bitcoin accumulation period of 4-10 years and be consistent. You should accumulate Bitcoin regularly using DCA method through discretionary income.

Choosing to accumulate bitcoin instead of wasting time claiming to be trying to understand how bitcoin works first isn't rushing, the idea that a nocoiner prioritizing investment over excessive knowledge gathering is rushing doesn't really make sense, you don't have to push all of your discretionary income into accumulating bitcoin as someone who is just starting out, it can be a very small percentage of your discretionary income at first but by starting you are already pushing away the idea of procrastination from yourself.
The simple truth is that what a person needs to start accumulating bitcoin isn't the extensive knowledge alot of people claim, what they need is their discretionary income, as long as you have this you can start investing in bitcoin.

[cyberninja2]

I think the biggest problem in this scenario is the manner in which you are defining aggressive. You are actually taking aggressive investing as the act of rushing or the individual is making a move due to greed or even borrowing money to forced large positions. But that is not what it is all about, that is merely bad decision making.

Everything many people do is always hampered or wrong even though everything they do whether aggressive or not is ultimately a result of the individual's own decisions. When risks arise the individual will experience them and others will be free from the risks they face. It's natural for someone to do anything as long as they're confident enough to repay their loans even if they sometimes rush into investing. Despite the risks the loan money they've invested in will certainly be a concern but repayment will remain their priority. This is all about interpreting each decision individually the good and bad and the consequences for each individual.

[abaeze]

This is a very appropriate answer to be understood by all parties because every person or party who wants to start investing with a healthy mindset will certainly invest without having to trouble themselves meaning that today the income they have, for example is 50%, of course the person will do it with 30% to accumulate Bitcoin while the remaining 20% ​​is only for needs that must be spent meaning that every time they accumulate the person must see how much income they have during the week and likewise sometimes they have more sources of income than what we mentioned earlier they must also do it in a way that does not make it difficult for someone to live their life which is clear every time they accumulate Bitcoin of course adjustments will be made to the results or sources obtained so that for sufficient needs and for investing also run smoothly because these two things are very necessary to do but it is all based on the income we have without bothering ourselves in doing it so that when we have implemented it whatever way we do it it is all up to us whether in the long term or short term.

Not all incomes are stable, so this model can break down if you have freelance or irregular income. So, in reality investing 50% of your income becomes very aggressive for most people. And in case of emergency, medical treatment, job loss, etc. the problem will be more complicated if you do not have a separate emergency fund.

Here, everyone's financial situation is not the same, so the meaning of the word 'aggressive investment' should also be different according to the investor's ability. In that case, investing regularly without skipping during any difficult situation and increasing the investment amount as income grows and continuing without fear when the market falls then this can also be considered a form of aggressive investment strategy for some individuals.

[yudi09]

Not all incomes are stable, so this model can break down if you have freelance or irregular income. So, in reality investing 50% of your income becomes very aggressive for most people. And in case of emergency, medical treatment, job loss, etc. the problem will be more complicated if you do not have a separate emergency fund.
Here, everyone's financial situation is not the same, so the meaning of the word 'aggressive investment' should also be different according to the investor's ability. In that case, investing regularly without skipping during any difficult situation and increasing the investment amount as income grows and continuing without fear when the market falls then this can also be considered a form of aggressive investment strategy for some individuals.

This idea is more aimed at those with higher or more regular income. Even with higher or more regular income we believe they will still consider what they should prioritize rather than immediately acting without considering things that may not be beneficial to them personally. Sometimes they prioritize their income to anticipate things like you mentioned such as healthcare costs. They still invest but they won't be too aggressive because there are still many other things to consider as unexpected things will always come without our knowledge. This is the goal of those with a regular income but still not investing aggressively as it is more about remembering what they will need in the future especially if an unexpected event occurs.

This is certainly a certain thing especially the problem with the income that everyone or party has is definitely different so I really agree with what was said that everyone has their own goals and also has their own desires meaning we cannot try to convince others to believe in the abilities we have so that others must follow what we do because everyone has their own abilities and each person also has their own way of achieving or getting regular income and for other people also have different income patterns whether it is the amount or time and date it must also be different so if someone has a goal to do it aggressively just let it be why sometimes they realize that doing it that way is because they have more income and enough for their needs so they do it as aggressively as possible there will be no problems that they will face, so the point is that everyone still has their own advantages.

[Futurexxx]

invest without having to trouble themselves meaning that today the income they have, for example is 50%, of course the person will do it with 30% to accumulate Bitcoin while the remaining 20% ​​is only for needs that must be spent meaning that every time they accumulate the person must see how much income they have during the week and likewise sometimes they have more sources of income than what we mentioned earlier they must also do it in a way that does not make it difficult for someone to live their life

I think that it's absolutely wrong to be investing in Bitcoin like that because you are definitely going to run into trouble doing it that way. You have to take proper care of your basic needs first, then any money that is left, which is your discretionary income is what you should be investing with, not investing first before taking care of your basic needs with what is left. It's wrong and you will fall into trouble in no distance time,  which will compel you to sell off your holdings just to address some of your basic needs that was not addressed before investing, so it's more important to sort of your basic needs first, before thinking of investing with the discretionary income left.

[Taricoins]

I agree with you to some point, because whether small income or not it doesn't stop an investor from being aggressive in their Bitcoin accumulation because sometimes what matters is financial management skill, the kind of expenses they are taking care of because when someone has a good manage skill and doesn't have a challenging expenses, they will have a good discretionary income to be aggressive when there is Dip and even if the expenses is challenging they can still be aggressive if they have saved up some reasonable amount of money from their discretionary.

Actually, being aggressive at certain times is simply a way to capitalize on price drops, as they don't always happen in the market. Therefore, any investor who frequently bought Bitcoin in the past will prefer to take advantage of these moments to acquire more Bitcoin at that moment. So, such an attitude is temporary, whereas a wise attitude of regularly accumulating Bitcoin is the primary attitude of investors who are accumulating more Bitcoin to save for their future assets. And the good thing for Bitcoin is that if many investors adopt this approach, it will remain strong in the market without being affected by any issues.

You need to understand that buying aggressively is not something that you should take as a priority and also we need to know that when buying aggressively we don't need to be over aggressive so that we won't go and use money meant for other things and use it for the investment just because we saw an opening or an opportunity to get Bitcoin at such rate. Being aggressive is good no doubt but it doesn't have to be something that you save up for or wait until the market dips , the investor should be able to buy aggressively whenever he feels he is financially sustainable to acquire with that buying power which is solely dependant on his discretionary income at that moment because you can't be having a manageable discretionary income and then decide to buy aggressively and also you don't get to save up and wait for the market to dip and then buy aggressive, there is no guarantee on how the market is gonna move and you waiting for it to dip is simply buying like a trader which is not good because there will be so much opportunity that you would miss to buy your Bitcoin but rather just consistently buy through your DCA method and hold for it long term and in the course of your journey you have the available discretionary income to buy aggressively then you buy without hesitation since it won't affect you in any way whatsoever.

[Bright0515]

This is a very appropriate answer to be understood by all parties because every person or party who wants to start investing with a healthy mindset will certainly invest without having to trouble themselves meaning that today the income they have, for example is 50%, of course the person will do it with 30% to accumulate Bitcoin while the remaining 20% ​​is only for needs that must be spent meaning that every time they accumulate the person must see how much income they have during the week

Based on my point of view, I guess the bold part of your statement isn't right because you seems to neglect the importance of having an emergency funds. In as much as Bitcoin investment is concern, even though you are very wealthy you must also have emergency funds which you can run to whenever there's an emergency situation (it's obvious that wealth people have much bigger problems), even those who are not wealthy also need to save up for emergency during investments or before investment.

One reason why most investors Bitcoin portfolio end up being premature is because they don't understand the importance of having an emergency funds because if they do they won't be forced to sell their Bitcoin anytime there's an emergency situation, so if any investor don't want to end up having a premature portfolio, they should save up at least 3 months for emergency, they can also do it during their investment, it's not a must to build up emergency funds before the start because the goal is to start buying immediately and holding some money separately for emergency situation.

Most times investors might not get a steady income but if they have emergency funds, they won't feel too much of financial pressure mostly when salary is delayed or when there other side hustle didn't pay them as they expected. I have actually realized that one of the reasons why most investors depend on their Bitcoin is because they don't have an emergency funds, meanwhile there's no guarantee to make profits from Bitcoin investment despite the fact that it has a potential to become more valuable in the future, so what I'm trying to say here is that when a investor have an emergency funds they won't have to depend on their Bitcoin. Lact of emergency funds can also make I investor take loan during an emergency situation, and it's obvious that taking loan while investing into Bitcoin will literally slow you down from achieving a suitable figure on your Bitcoin portfolio.

[Big Dirams]

invest without having to trouble themselves meaning that today the income they have, for example is 50%, of course the person will do it with 30% to accumulate Bitcoin while the remaining 20% ​​is only for needs that must be spent meaning that every time they accumulate the person must see how much income they have during the week and likewise sometimes they have more sources of income than what we mentioned earlier they must also do it in a way that does not make it difficult for someone to live their life

I think that it's absolutely wrong to be investing in Bitcoin like that because you are definitely going to run into trouble doing it that way. You have to take proper care of your basic needs first, then any money that is left, which is your discretionary income is what you should be investing with, not investing first before taking care of your basic needs with what is left. It's wrong and you will fall into trouble in no distance time,  which will compel you to sell off your holdings just to address some of your basic needs that was not addressed before investing, so it's more important to sort of your basic needs first, before thinking of investing with the discretionary income left.

Walking into investment without taking proper care of our basic needs and most important things then that investment journey will be so ruined because no matter the circumstances definitely the investor would surely ran back to their investment anytime they face little issues or any important things come up because they fail to handle them before investing.
 That why it always advisable to settle our needs before thinking of investing so we won’t ran to our investment anytime we face an emergency. Let settle our needs and set up a discretionary income to begin our journey of bitcoin investment for safe and sustainable investments.