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November 12, 2026, 08:38:01 PM
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Infact we can go into investing in bitcoin without having emergency funds. You should know that we can’t forsake or delay our investment for any reason so long we have discretionary income with available.
This is wrong, and if any Bitcoin investors decides to act this way without putting down emergency funds in place that will protect his or her investment during times of emergency, selling or tempering with his Bitcoin holdings will be the only way out of that emergency crisis, so having it in place as a form of security to protect your investment is the only way your Bitcoin investment can survive for a very long time, because you are surely going to encounter an emergency situation sooner or later in your investment journey.
The only time an investor can invest in Bitcoin is when the investor is just getting started because he would need to start first before he will consider setting up emergency funds. If that is what Cyber-warrior is referring to, he is right but if the investor has already started setting up emergency funds is very necessary because that is the way of protecting the investment from being sold off when there is issue of emergency. Emergency funds are saved from discretionary income but that does not mean that having discretionary income is the same as having emergency funds. From the discretionary income, the emergency funds must be calculated and set aside in cash or really accessible form so that it can properly serve the purpose it was created for.

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November 12, 2026, 09:31:00 PM
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If an investor invests for the long term and starts investing with his discretionary income after fulfilling all his basic needs. Then it would be better for him to focus on creating an emergency fund right after starting the investment. Because emergencies can come at any time, so whether the investment is small or big, it is necessary to create an emergency plan to make his investment sustainable. The first thing an investor should do is start investing, then use discretionary income for investment and for emergency fund.

If someone wants to invest for the long term, then he must focus on emergency fund and also think about how to increase his cash flow and be more active in investment. The most effective way of investing is consistency, the more consistency he maintains in his investment, the better amount of BTC he can save in his investment.
Emergency funds are important, but, should be built alongside Bitcoin investment, and being .treated as something to worry about later.. and having discretionary income doesn't mean all of it should go be use to buy bitcoin An investor can divide that surplus between regular buying of bitcoin, building of an emergency fund  and  back up funds. The purpose of an emergency fund is to protect the investor from being forced to sell his bitcoin  holding whenever an unexpected situation arises. Consistency matters, but having financial security is also part of a sustainable long term investment plan.
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November 12, 2026, 10:19:08 PM
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I totally agree with you that DCA is one of the best ways to accumulate bitcoin because no one can predict what the market will do next. Rather than waiting for bitcoin price to drop before buying, it’s best to remain consistent and take advantage of different market conditions. Even if it’s a small amount you are investing, consistency is still very essential more than trying to time the market.

But we shouldn’t forget that there’s still life after bitcoin. Before you invest in bitcoin ensure your bills, emergency funds and your basic needs are being settled. It’s an unwise decision to put all your money in bitcoin and struggle to survive. Your purpose for investing in bitcoin is to build a good financial future for yourself not to put yourself under pressure.
The most basic necessities such as food, clothing, shelter and payment of other utilities must be sorted out before attempting to invest In bitcoin for long term purpose. But the emergency funds shouldn’t be considered as one of those basic needs which must be sorted out before starting to invest. It is advisable that once the basic needs are met, investors can use the left over discretionary income to start investing in bitcoin even if the emergency funds is not readily available. Along the line the investor can start saving some part of his discretionary income for building the emergency funds gradually while ongoingly accumulating bitcoin.

Lots of people fail to sort those things, that's why they struggle to determine the amount the can afford to put in their emergency funds and how much percentage left on their discretionary funds.

They downplay that type of planning and common reason, why people fails on their DCA execution.

If they pay close attention first on their basic needs, then settle out the other things that can bother them. Most likely they will not get stress on other financial activities they are participating and they might have smooth flow with their investment.

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November 12, 2026, 10:32:22 PM
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Emergency funds are important, but, should be built alongside Bitcoin investment,

This the balance most many of our newbies are missing, it not about to build emergency funds first or start Bitcoin first it the both together.

You are goging to miss many opportunities of buying if you are to wait until emergency fund is complete before you start Bitcoin, and motivation can be lost also.

But again if you should put all your discretionary income into Bitcoin and you actually Ignore your emergency fund, a little problem is going to force you to sell your coin at lost.

The best way for you, is for you to split it. You can just split it from your discretionary income….. you make use of some part to buy Bitcoin, use part for your emergency fund little by little. It might be slow oh but it going to allow your investment to survive fora very long term.

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November 12, 2026, 11:11:25 PM
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This the balance most many of our newbies are missing, it not about to build emergency funds first or start Bitcoin first it the both together.
Don't get yourself confused. Well said but a little observation. It's not ideal to build your emergency fund first before starting investing, it should be done as you're investing but saying you can't start investing first is wrong. The next thing an investor should consider after discovering his/her discretionary income should be investing before anything else. There are instances where you can't do both at the same time because of insufficient discretionary income, in that case investment should come first and later you think of how to back up your investment. In case of sufficient discretionary income it's better to do both.

 
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Infact we can go into investing in bitcoin without having emergency funds. You should know that we can’t forsake or delay our investment for any reason so long we have discretionary income with available.
This is wrong, and if any Bitcoin investors decides to act this way without putting down emergency funds in place that will protect his or her investment during times of emergency, selling or tempering with his Bitcoin holdings will be the only way out of that emergency crisis, so having it in place as a form of security to protect your investment is the only way your Bitcoin investment can survive for a very long time, because you are surely going to encounter an emergency situation sooner or later in your investment journey.
The only time an investor can invest in Bitcoin is when the investor is just getting started because he would need to start first before he will consider setting up emergency funds. If that is what Cyber-warrior is referring to, he is right……………..
Because a road is free and you can cross at anytime doesn’t mean you should cross without looking. Now you can cross without looking left and right and nothing will happen or you cross and get hit by an incoming vehicle. Starting bitcoin without emergency funds or any form of backups is like crossing the road without looking , there’s nothing right about that.
We are encouraged to invest from our discretionary income because it provides the opportunity to invest, save or spend. For an investor getting started without emergency funds set up, surely he wouldn’t have invested all his discretionary so he’ll have some left over which can serve as emergency funds while he gradually sets it up as he builds his investment.

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Today at 12:02:13 AM
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You can't force anyone to get into Bitcoin investment, it is by will and personal choices, so anyone can do whatever they like with there income. Perhaps, some might also go into Gold or real estate or other investments, it is there choice.

Yeah, but why would we referring to gold, real estate and/or any other investments as if they were not inferior to bitcoin?

You think that it doesn't matter?

Sure guys can choose whatever they like, even dumb shit, but we are talking about bitcoin here and I doubt very many of us consider bitcoin as compared with other possible investment places to be "whatever.  Do whatever you want."  

It seems to me (and it is my thread) that we are talking about bitcoin here, and not "do whatever you like" - even though surely deep down each person can do what they like and they are responsible for doing whatever they like (including the consequences), yet at the same time, we are talking about bitcoin investment ideas here.. .which is not "do whatever you like."

However, Bitcoin still remains the best,

At least you remembered that part.
 
more especially, for the fact that it's a store of value unlike we other investments. Investing in Bitcoin for a long time period will will not only save us from our money losing value due to inflati, but also, when the market moves upwards, we will get to see our assets add value over time and make us more financially rich. Bitcoin still remains the best, but sure, anyone can still do whatever they like after all.

Sure.  We invest in bitcoin based on an expectation that it has good chances of going up relative to other places that we might choose to put our time, energy and value.

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Cash is useful and we shouldn't just discard it just because it looses value over time. As long as people generally uses it then it has usefulness.

Are you adding any value with this superficial statement?

Many of us recognize and appreciate that we likely earn in dollars (fiat) and we use fiat to pay our expenses, so we likely have to build up and keep a certain amount of it so we are able to use it in the utility sense that you suggest, to pay for goods and services, and especially our basic expenses.

But since it looses value over time, we must then preserve our money. How then should we do that. Investing in entities that protect your wealth is very good. Those entities are usually volatile. But then cash has it's own purpose and it is liquidity. You can use it to achieve things within or outside your country. Clothes, shoes, bills etc. Those entities i was talking about, example of one of them Bitcoin. Gold is another one. We also have bonds, stocks, lands and each and everyone carries some certain degree of risk. So these entities are used to preserve your wealth for a very long time. More specifically, your purchasing power. Just that it can't be used to purchase needs that you need quickly. That is were currency steps in. Identify what to use as a quick purchase and what to use as a store of value is very important in todays world.

You have 4 posts, a forum registration from 2 days ago, and you want to lecture us about generic principles?  Have you read any posts in this thread or even the various starting posts?  What distinguishes you from a bot?  Do you have any specific personal experiences that can help to inform whatever vague seemingly AI generated superficial baloney you are spewing?

After searching, I found this topic on Bitcoin holding related in the Trading Discussion section. I spent some time reading many posts. Where most of them are advising to buy Bitcoin and hold it for a long time. I recently installed the exchanger and set it up. So yesterday I decided to buy some Bitcoin for the equivalent of $240. So today when I entered the exchange, I noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dropped further. If it continues to drop like this, it is not known when it will increase. In that case, I am a little uncertain whether it is better to buy Bitcoin now or wait a little longer and buy when the price starts increasing, then I can make more profit?

Also I have some questions, how do those who have been holding Bitcoin for a long time actually keep their mentality stable when the price drops? Where I am a little afraid before buying Bitcoin Cry .

And if I buy Bitcoin and hold the price is likely to increase. If I buy Bitcoin now, how long will it take for my fund to become 30% profitable?

Invest into bitcoin from your discretionary funds, and invest no more than you can afford to lose... so if you are afraid of investing $100 per week, then maybe reduce it, and if you are afraid to invest $10 per week, then maybe you should not be investing in bitcoin.

Investing in bitcoin is a 4-10 year or longer time horizon, and there is no guarantee of profits... and if you are coming straight into bitcoin thinking about when you can make 10% profits, then you probably need to go to some other thread, since we are talking about investing into bitcoin in this thread.. and maybe you should read the first few opening posts of the thread to get some better ideas about the topic of the thread.

I totally agree with you that DCA is one of the best ways to accumulate bitcoin because no one can predict what the market will do next. Rather than waiting for bitcoin price to drop before buying, it’s best to remain consistent and take advantage of different market conditions. Even if it’s a small amount you are investing, consistency is still very essential more than trying to time the market.

But we shouldn’t forget that there’s still life after bitcoin. Before you invest in bitcoin ensure your bills, emergency funds and your basic needs are being settled. It’s an unwise decision to put all your money in bitcoin and struggle to survive. Your purpose for investing in bitcoin is to build a good financial future for yourself not to put yourself under pressure.
The most basic necessities such as food, clothing, shelter and payment of other utilities must be sorted out before attempting to invest In bitcoin for long term purpose. But the emergency funds shouldn’t be considered as one of those basic needs which must be sorted out before starting to invest. It is advisable that once the basic needs are met, investors can use the left over discretionary income to start investing in bitcoin even if the emergency funds is not readily available. Along the line the investor can start saving some part of his discretionary income for building the emergency funds gradually while ongoingly accumulating bitcoin.

You are correct @Brizi5000.  Emergency funds are built from discretionary funds, so they are not at the same level of priority as basic expenses.

Once basic expenses have been accounted for, then the remaining is discretionary funds, and with discretionary funds there can be choices to use such discretionary funds to 1) invest (in bitcoin), 2) save (put into emergency funds and/or reserve funds) and/or 3) discretionarily consume.

Guys choose their priorities of how to use their discretionary funds within those three categories and within their own assessment of what they want to be more important and/or less important within the category of their wants.  Needs had already been taken care of prior to calculating how much discretionary funds are available.

Sure, there are some guys who have such high levels of income that they feel that they do not have to spend much or any time figuring out how much discretionary funds that they have available because they feel that they have plenty of discretionary funds.  Yet, if they choose to invest aggressively into bitcoin, they might find that it is helpful t them, and their calculations to verify that they are not investing and/or discretionarily consuming beyond their incoming flow of discretionary funds.

The most basic necessities such as food, clothing, shelter and payment of other utilities must be sorted out before attempting to invest In bitcoin for long term purpose. But the emergency funds shouldn’t be considered as one of those basic needs which must be sorted out before starting to invest. It is advisable that once the basic needs are met, investors can use the left over discretionary income to start investing in bitcoin even if the emergency funds is not readily available. Along the line the investor can start saving some part of his discretionary income for building the emergency funds gradually while ongoingly accumulating bitcoin.
If an investor invests for the long term and starts investing with his discretionary income after fulfilling all his basic needs. Then it would be better for him to focus on creating an emergency fund right after starting the investment. Because emergencies can come at any time, so whether the investment is small or big, it is necessary to create an emergency plan to make his investment sustainable. The first thing an investor should do is start investing, then use discretionary income for investment and for emergency fund.

If someone wants to invest for the long term, then he must focus on emergency fund and also think about how to increase his cash flow and be more active in investment. The most effective way of investing is consistency, the more consistency he maintains in his investment, the better amount of BTC he can save in his investment.

There is no reason that a beginner investor should not and/or could not build back up funds (or emergency funds) at the same time that he is building his bitcoin stack, especially since it is not a good idea to not have any back up funds.

In regards to discretionary funds, they are meant for investing, savings and/or discretionary consumption, so they should not ONLY be used for investing and savings, there is a need to account for discretionary consumption, which should not be zero, even if a person is claiming to be a monk (or living like a monk).

If an investor invests for the long term and starts investing with his discretionary income after fulfilling all his basic needs. Then it would be better for him to focus on creating an emergency fund right after starting the investment. Because emergencies can come at any time, so whether the investment is small or big, it is necessary to create an emergency plan to make his investment sustainable. The first thing an investor should do is start investing, then use discretionary income for investment and for emergency fund.

If someone wants to invest for the long term, then he must focus on emergency fund and also think about how to increase his cash flow and be more active in investment. The most effective way of investing is consistency, the more consistency he maintains in his investment, the better amount of BTC he can save in his investment.
Emergency funds are important, but, should be built alongside Bitcoin investment, and being .treated as something to worry about later.. and having discretionary income doesn't mean all of it should go be use to buy bitcoin An investor can divide that surplus between regular buying of bitcoin, building of an emergency fund  and  back up funds. The purpose of an emergency fund is to protect the investor from being forced to sell his bitcoin  holding whenever an unexpected situation arises. Consistency matters, but having financial security is also part of a sustainable long term investment plan.

What about discretionary consumption?  Do you even know what that is?

You mention emergency funds and back up funds (and that is pretty much the same thing).

You keep repeating the same and you keep leaving out discretionary consumption, which causes me to believe that you do not even know what discretionary consumption is.

Do you realize that there is a difference between needs and wants?  

Generally, needs would be included in basic expenses, and wants would be included in discretionary consumption.  Do you know how to calculate the difference between needs and wants? or the ramifications of such calculations in terms of each of us figuring out our discretionary budget?

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Today at 01:23:01 AM
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What do you mean you can have emergency funds and not invest, the main reason we have discretionary income is because we have investment, without investment there would never be an emergency fund. Infact we can go into investing in bitcoin without having emergency funds. You should know that we can’t forsake or delay our investment for any reason so long we have discretionary income with available.

So Please instead of posting without having knowledge about what you are saying, I would suggest you do more of reading so you can know what the thread is is actually talking about.

You can personalize this statement of yours, maybe you don’t keep emergency funds except you have an investment ongoing, your theory doesn’t apply to others, it’ll amaze you to know that there are 9-5 workers or business men who are not Bitcoin investors, that save up emergency funds for the future, one really don’t have to be a Bitcoin investor before having an emergency fund available.

Then again, I’ll agree with you on this part, in as much as emergency funds is important, for a newbie wanting to invest but doesn’t have emergency fund available but there is discretionary fund available, you should not delay yourself from investing because you’ve not save enough emergency fund. You can start investing in Bitcoin and save up for emergency simultaneously.
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Today at 05:44:58 AM
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What do you mean you can have emergency funds and not invest, the main reason we have discretionary income is because we have investment, without investment there would never be an emergency fund. Infact we can go into investing in bitcoin without having emergency funds. You should know that we can’t forsake or delay our investment for any reason so long we have discretionary income with available.

So Please instead of posting without having knowledge about what you are saying, I would suggest you do more of reading so you can know what the thread is is actually talking about.

You can personalize this statement of yours, maybe you don’t keep emergency funds except you have an investment ongoing, your theory doesn’t apply to others, it’ll amaze you to know that there are 9-5 workers or business men who are not Bitcoin investors, that save up emergency funds for the future, one really don’t have to be a Bitcoin investor before having an emergency fund available.

Then again, I’ll agree with you on this part, in as much as emergency funds is important, for a newbie wanting to invest but doesn’t have emergency fund available but there is discretionary fund available, you should not delay yourself from investing because you’ve not save enough emergency fund. You can start investing in Bitcoin and save up for emergency simultaneously.
This is a Bitcoin investment discussion thread, so do well to know that. The focus on this thread is how to start your bitcoin journey and hold for a long period of time. Emergency funds is very important but all we saying is not to delay  kick stating of your investment because of it.

Yes we can start without having an emergency funds but it not like it right, so even when we get started we need to start making moves and provisions on how to start saving up for emergency funds as soon as possible.

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Today at 05:59:23 AM
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Once basic expenses have been accounted for, then the remaining is discretionary funds, and with discretionary funds there can be choices to use such discretionary funds to 1) invest (in bitcoin), 2) save (put into emergency funds and/or reserve funds) and/or 3) discretionarily consume.

Guys choose their priorities of how to use their discretionary funds within those three categories and within their own assessment of what they want to be more important and/or less important within the category of their wants.  Needs had already been taken care of prior to calculating how much discretionary funds are available.

Sure, there are some guys who have such high levels of income that they feel that they do not have to spend much or any time figuring out how much discretionary funds that they have available because they feel that they have plenty of discretionary funds.  Yet, if they choose to invest aggressively into bitcoin, they might find that it is helpful t them, and their calculations to verify that they are not investing and/or discretionarily consuming beyond their incoming flow of discretionary funds.


I can tell you for free that some individuals are still getting this  wrong, because they always see emergency funds like an extra bills and it's not supposed to be so.
 For instance now, you can't build a  house without foundation, before building a house you must lay a foundation, so that foundations are your emergency funds for basic expenses, so if your foundation is not strong enough, believe you me everything will fall, them your discretionary income is money that's left to use and be building the rooms after laying foundation. So it's just simple and straightforward, as you can make your own decisions by investing in Bitcoin with only discretionary income, then set some money aside for other purposes, the more you are building your bitcoin position determine how far the future would be, that's why some newbies have to use thier common sense and make a good decisions towards thier investment. I can attest with you that, some folks are actually earning higher and they think they have everything by investing aggressively,  using money lavishly without strengthen thier emergency funds, and one strange market movements humble them. The newbies should know that, to become a successful investor is not the one that buys the most/much, but the one that knows what they are risking,have the consistency and patience of holding it for long-term period.

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Today at 06:34:26 AM
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What do you mean you can have emergency funds and not invest, the main reason we have discretionary income is because we have investment, without investment there would never be an emergency fund. Infact we can go into investing in bitcoin without having emergency funds. You should know that we can’t forsake or delay our investment for any reason so long we have discretionary income with available.

So Please instead of posting without having knowledge about what you are saying, I would suggest you do more of reading so you can know what the thread is is actually talking about.
You can personalize this statement of yours, maybe you don’t keep emergency funds except you have an investment ongoing, your theory doesn’t apply to others, it’ll amaze you to know that there are 9-5 workers or business men who are not Bitcoin investors, that save up emergency funds for the future, one really don’t have to be a Bitcoin investor before having an emergency fund available.

Then again, I’ll agree with you on this part, in as much as emergency funds is important, for a newbie wanting to invest but doesn’t have emergency fund available but there is discretionary fund available, you should not delay yourself from investing because you’ve not save enough emergency fund. You can start investing in Bitcoin and save up for emergency simultaneously.
This is a Bitcoin investment discussion thread, so do well to know that. The focus on this thread is how to start your bitcoin journey and hold for a long period of time. Emergency funds is very important but all we saying is not to delay  kick stating of your investment because of it.

Yes we can start without having an emergency funds but it not like it right, so even when we get started we need to start making moves and provisions on how to start saving up for emergency funds as soon as possible.

How come I keep repeating that we cannot start out buying bitcoin without any back up funds (in this case back up funds is the same as emergency funds).

If we have absolutely no back up funds and we are buying bitcoin, then how the fuck are we going to know that we have enough money to survive until our next paycheck.

This is the JJG bitcoin investment ideas thread, so why are participants continue to say the opposite of what I am saying and not addressing what I have already said multiple times.

Sure, you can disagree with me, but you better give some reason why - other wise maybe I should just delete those kinds of posts that just keep making more work for me.

Are there guys who do not understand that if there is absolutely no back up funds, then there is no way to know that you are buying bitcoin with discretionary funds because you used all your money to buy bitcoin. 

In other words some back up funds are needed - otherwise gambling is taking place, and are guys recommending to gamble with their bitcoin?  That would seem off topic. 

I am starting to consider that maybe we (meaning me) might need to have some standard that guys should not be investing in bitcoin if they do not have at least a week of their expenses saved up or maybe at least a few days of their expenses, since the level of back up funds cannot be zero and still be investing rather than gambling.

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Today at 07:51:34 AM
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Infact we can go into investing in bitcoin without having emergency funds. You should know that we can’t forsake or delay our investment for any reason so long we have discretionary income with available.
This is wrong, and if any Bitcoin investors decides to act this way without putting down emergency funds in place that will protect his or her investment during times of emergency, selling or tempering with his Bitcoin holdings will be the only way out of that emergency crisis, so having it in place as a form of security to protect your investment is the only way your Bitcoin investment can survive for a very long time, because you are surely going to encounter an emergency situation sooner or later in your investment journey.
The only time an investor can invest in Bitcoin is when the investor is just getting started because he would need to start first before he will consider setting up emergency funds. If that is what Cyber-warrior is referring to, he is right……………..
Because a road is free and you can cross at anytime doesn’t mean you should cross without looking. Now you can cross without looking left and right and nothing will happen or you cross and get hit by an incoming vehicle. Starting bitcoin without emergency funds or any form of backups is like crossing the road without looking , there’s nothing right about that.
We are encouraged to invest from our discretionary income because it provides the opportunity to invest, save or spend. For an investor getting started without emergency funds set up, surely he wouldn’t have invested all his discretionary so he’ll have some left over which can serve as emergency funds while he gradually sets it up as he builds his investment.
The example of your road crossing shows one thing financial responsibility plays a key role. Investments made without an emergency fund are risky and leave people in a tricky situation in case of unexpected expenditures. Bitcoin is a very unstable asset and no one can be sure that the market conditions will be favorable in case of urgent need for money. In my opinion, financial security should be ensured before the investor grows his wealth. The best variant would be if everyone had an emergency fund for 3-6 months before the start of investments. But if it is impossible to gather such fund at once, it is possible to make investments starting from the smallest and save money for the emergency fund from the rest. One more aspect is the separation of money on the emergency fund and on investments. Otherwise, poor market situation along with unexpected expenditure may lead to selling of Bitcoin at loss.
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Today at 07:57:28 AM
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But it is not a safe investment to have held Bitcoin for years. It is possible for someone to be in a bear market for an extended period, or they may have a sudden need for cash and end up selling at a loss.
This is very strange for this to be coming up from someone I believe might have spent more than a year in the forum. What message are you trying to convey to those that has plan of holding bitcoin for some couple of years. Or are you for real? Please instead of voicing out what you don't know or understand is better you stay mute instead of sharing false and harmful information to newbies that didn't know much.

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It is therefore as important to have an emergency fund and to not invest.
You're unbelievable. Are you sure you understand what you're saying or you're just trying to fulfill your post count or what. Please, for your own interest I will advice you post more on where you have little or more knowledge on so that you would mislead newbies.
What do you mean you can have emergency funds and not invest, the main reason we have discretionary income is because we have investment, without investment there would never be an emergency fund. Infact we can go into investing in bitcoin without having emergency funds. You should know that we can’t forsake or delay our investment for any reason so long we have discretionary income with available.

So Please instead of posting without having knowledge about what you are saying, I would suggest you do more of reading so you can know what the thread is is actually talking about.
I'm just seeing this your quote now and I feel it will be proper I address it at once. Thus, this simply means most of us don't pay more attention before responding to a post. Because if you read everything correctly, you will realize that I was actually attacking the guy that wrote something that isn't making any sense, and that his post could be very misleading to newbies. Moreover, there is no way I'll support something like that when I no how misleading those inform could be for people that have the intension of holding bitcoin.

You're the one that really needs to do more of reading than writing if you ask me.


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Today at 09:13:43 AM
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The example of your road crossing shows one thing financial responsibility plays a key role. Investments made without an emergency fund are risky and leave people in a tricky situation in case of unexpected expenditures. Bitcoin is a very unstable asset and no one can be sure that the market conditions will be favorable in case of urgent need for money. In my opinion, financial security should be ensured before the investor grows his wealth. The best variant would be if everyone had an emergency fund for 3-6 months before the start of investments. But if it is impossible to gather such fund at once, it is possible to make investments starting from the smallest and save money for the emergency fund from the rest. One more aspect is the separation of money on the emergency fund and on investments. Otherwise, poor market situation along with unexpected expenditure may lead to selling of Bitcoin at loss.

Waiting for an emergency fund to be fully built before starting to invest is a foolish decision and a waste of time. Because a person needs discretionary income to start investing. If a person is able to find a source of discretionary income, they can build an investment and an emergency fund at the same time. When we are willing to build a complete emergency fund at the beginning, we will miss many buying opportunities, fall far behind the goal of building a portfolio, etc. We will face many problems. The best decision is to move the emergency fund and investment forward in parallel.

I think that building an emergency fund equal to 3 months of our income or 3 months of expenses is enough for us. Because 3 months is enough time to find a job if we lose our job. But yes, it is a good decision to create other additional funds for our protection

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Today at 12:43:10 PM
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. The best variant would be if everyone had an emergency fund for 3-6 months before the start of investments. But if it is impossible to gather such fund at once,

At least you realize that it's impossible to get that in place from the start, because if you focus more on having your emergency funds in place before starting your bitcoin accumulation, you may not even start, because you are going to successful waste all your valuable accumulation time by trying to put that in place before starting, so it's more better to start your Bitcoin accumulation right away, as long as your discretionary income is available, then once you start buying, you can start stacking up your emergency funds alongside your Bitcoin accumulation, so that your investment will be safe if emergency comes up in that starting point of your accumulation, but the idea of first putting down your emergency before starting your bitcoin accumulation us wrong, since it's going to delay you from starting your investment journey, when you should have.

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Today at 01:41:31 PM
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The best variant would be if everyone had an emergency fund for 3-6 months before the start of investments. But if it is impossible to gather such fund at once.
It's not possible to get an emergency funds of three months of your expenses at once because it takes a low coiner a year or more to build and emergency funds of three months of their monthly expenses and that's another reason why three months of your monthly expenses is enough to be your emergency funds and not six months. There's no need piling up too much cash when you just started your bitcoin investment.

However, if an investor already have a lump sum funds of three months of his monthly expenses before he consider investing into bitcoin. He can split that funds into three equal parts. The first part for his weekly DCA by spreading it across in various weeks, the second part for his emergency funds and the last part for his discretionary consumption while he continues like this with his further discretionary income.

In the beginning, a brand new investor without any form of backup funds should build his bitcoin investment simultaneously with his emergency funds and shouldn't waste any time to delay his bitcoin investment just because he doesn't have any backup funds.

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Today at 02:09:50 PM
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In my opinion, financial security should be ensured before the investor grows his wealth. The best variant would be if everyone had an emergency fund for 3-6 months before the start of investments.
Your opinion is wrong here, you don't need to stack up cash unnecessarily as emergency fund before starting your bitcoin investment, your investment deserves good priority and it is best you get started first and keep building your emergency fund alongside buying bitcoin. In good cashflow management practice, you can allocate funds from your discretionary income to both your portfolio and building emergency fund without any waiting for the other, you can divide your discretionary income into 3 parts, use one part for investing, the second part for emergency fund and the third part for discretionary consumption.
Investors can maintain consistency in building their portfolio and emergency fund side by side and still build their emergency fund up to 3 months of expenses. It could take some time to build your emergency funds and delaying your bitcoin investment because of it is not ideal, you'll be missing good opportunities to get ahead in your investment journey.

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Unexpected expenditure should be handled by your emergency fund, that is its essence. Market situation should not make you sell your bitcoin since you're only buying and holding and not trading it.

 
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Today at 02:50:41 PM
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How come I keep repeating that we cannot start out buying bitcoin without any back up funds (in this case back up funds is the same as emergency funds).

If we have absolutely no back up funds and we are buying bitcoin, then how the fuck are we going to know that we have enough money to survive until our next paycheck.

This is the JJG bitcoin investment ideas thread, so why are participants continue to say the opposite of what I am saying and not addressing what I have already said multiple times.

Sure, you can disagree with me, but you better give some reason why - other wise maybe I should just delete those kinds of posts that just keep making more work for me.

Are there guys who do not understand that if there is absolutely no back up funds, then there is no way to know that you are buying bitcoin with discretionary funds because you used all your money to buy bitcoin. 

In other words some back up funds are needed - otherwise gambling is taking place, and are guys recommending to gamble with their bitcoin?  That would seem off topic. 

I am starting to consider that maybe we (meaning me) might need to have some standard that guys should not be investing in bitcoin if they do not have at least a week of their expenses saved up or maybe at least a few days of their expenses, since the level of back up funds cannot be zero and still be investing rather than gambling.
I think this people who are thinking that someone who is investing in bitcoin doesn’t need a backup funds are actually fucked in some kind of way, because they should have know things that are actually obtainable here before starting investment in bitcoin, and there is a likelihood that they’re traders who are only interested in making quick profit which is why they don’t care anything about a backup funds or emergency funds, there are also people who claim they’re buying bitcoin and holding for a long term which in a better understanding they’re just mere traders, an investor in bitcoin would definitely know that bitcoin investment requires a backup funds, and without a backup funds our bitcoin investment is walking on a knife edge, to hodl requires a backup fund else your bitcoin investment becomes worthless.

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Today at 03:06:09 PM
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Emergency funds are important, but, should be built alongside Bitcoin investment,
This the balance most many of our newbies are missing, it not about to build emergency funds first or start Bitcoin first it the both together.
The problem with most of us is that we try to reinventing the wheel for reasons that does not even make sense. It has been sufficiently explained that emergency fund is money needed to protect the investment from sudden sell off, more like a protection for the investment.  If that be the case, there ought to be investment before the need for the protection will arise, meaning that the investor has to get started first then start planning on how to set up emergency funds to protect what he has started. If we continue going back and forth in this, mamy people will even forget the right thing and possibly wonder away.

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Today at 03:23:08 PM
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The problem with most of us is that we try to reinventing the wheel for reasons that does not even make sense. It has been sufficiently explained that emergency fund is money needed to protect the investment from sudden sell off, more like a protection for the investment.  If that be the case, there ought to be investment before the need for the protection will arise, meaning that the investor has to get started first then start planning on how to set up emergency funds to protect what he has started. If we continue going back and forth in this, mamy people will even forget the right thing and possibly wonder away.

Instead of wondering which would be started first, how about building both together? What stops a beginner from building both together?Maybe many of you don't know that both can be built together which is why you wonder whether to start the investment before building the emergency funds along the line.
 To be honest i used to be among those who get confused on which to start first untill i learnt that the both cab go together so far the funds for them is available.

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