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December 18, 2021, 03:09:08 PM
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Wherever I go, opinions seem to be divided about whether Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto or not. Out of curiosity, I decided to watch a few of the interviews and lectures CW has done over the years, and hear what he has to say. I have to admit some of the things he said struck me as shocking ( ie. BTC will never go to 100K, BTC is not a store of value, etc. ) but hey, I've got an open mind.
Without going into much detail, after watching several of the interviews on YouTube I have to admit he seems to be the real deal. Or in other words, he is almost everything you'd expect Satoshi Nakamoto to be... and more. I say almost because I expected Satoshi Nakamoto to be a little more nerdish and socially awkward, kind of like Vitalik Buterin and many other computer science geniuses in the space. But I guess genius comes in all forms and Craig Wright may be an example of this.
With a background in Mathematics, Computer Science, Economics and Law, it's hard to imagine a more qualified individual to fit the Satoshi Nakamoto profile. He also holds several Phds to his name and hundreds ( if not thousands ) of patents. So not only is this man highly creative, but also one of the most highly educated and intelligent people you'll ever come across. He is also already a billionaire from what I know, and extremely successful in various fields. So given these extraordinary credentials I don't think the man is looking for attention / fame, or trying to get rich via fraud, in fact he states he doesn't want any of this in one of his interviews. So right now I'm inclined to believe he is who he claims to be. The question now is ... will this be the kiss of death for BTC ? I say this because he claims BSV is the real Bitcoin and BTC is not. I understand his reasons but BSV has never been highly regarded by the crypto community and  in fact many shitcoins like Dogecoin and Shiba have a far greater following. Also I don't think his attempts to discredit BTC will go too far... BTC has already been adopted by many Institutions, Banks and people of influence. However, I do believe this casts a shroud of uncertainty over the future of BTC as Craig Wright is a hugely influential figure.
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December 18, 2021, 03:26:58 PM
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Wherever I go, opinions seem to be divided about whether Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto or not.
He should prove it, opinion will not be divided but accepted by the whole bitcoin community. If he is Satoshi, it is possible to let the bitcoin community to know about that.

Without going into much detail, after watching several of the interviews on YouTube I have to admit he seems to be the real deal. Or in other words, he is almost everything you'd expect Satoshi Nakamoto to be...
If you admit, then you did not know the details.

The question now is ... will this be the kiss of death for BTC ? I say this because he claims BSV is the real Bitcoin and BTC is not
BSV that was once ranked amount the first 10 coins now at 59th in marketcap. There are other fake bitcoins like BCH also. They want to mimic bitcoin but they dropped when some altcoin with good foresights were created. No other bitcoin but bitcoin that is in the first position ever since it was created, all others are altcoins.

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December 18, 2021, 03:56:17 PM
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Who cares who is the real satoshi nakamoto? Does it change bitcoin fundamentals? Does it change anything? Satoshi is gone for more than 10 years (most likely dead based on how he disappeared without good bye). So bitcoin was being developed in 2 years by satoshi and 10 years by community (hundreds of developers) in decentralized way. What satoshi have to say about bitcoin now... has zero value. Its just an opinion of random guy from internet that made something good 12 years ago.

So not only is this man highly creative, but also one of the most highly educated and intelligent people you'll ever come across. He is also already a billionaire from what I know, and extremely successful in various fields. So given these extraordinary credentials I don't think the man is looking for attention / fame, or trying to get rich via fraud, in fact he states he doesn't want any of this in one of his interviews.

1-There are many successful/rich people. Hundreds of thousands of them ... but there is only 1 bitcoin creator.
2-He aims to convince people that bitcoin is not the "real bitcoin" and the "real bitcoin" is BSV and being officially named as bitcoin creator will help a lot in this. If he succeeds (I doubt that) we are talking about billions if not trillions of $$ deal.
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December 18, 2021, 04:00:53 PM
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Wherever I go, opinions seem to be divided about whether Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto or not.

You have been going to the wrong places then.

I have never seen anyone who thinks Craig is Satoshi.




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So right now I'm inclined to believe he is who he claims to be. The question now is ... will this be the kiss of death for BTC ? I say this because he claims BSV is the real Bitcoin and BTC is not. I understand his reasons but BSV has never been highly regarded by the crypto community and  in fact many shitcoins like Dogecoin and Shiba have a far greater following. Also I don't think his attempts to discredit BTC will go too far... BTC has already been adopted by many Institutions, Banks and people of influence. However, I do believe this casts a shroud of uncertainty over the future of BTC as Craig Wright is a hugely influential figure.

Bitcoin is worth about $ 47000 and BSV about $ 120.
This certainly answers your questions and doubts about what is the real bitcoin for most people.

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December 18, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
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satoshi can not shut down Bitcoin network. Satoshi can not freeze any Bitcoin in any address or wallet. Satoshi can not solely code and upgrade codes for Bitcoin now.

All things only can be done by community, via community consensus. It is magic of decentralization which is initiated by satoshi. It takes years to be built and impossible to be broken by any single person. Because Bitcoin network, communities now are huge and really decentralized.

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December 18, 2021, 04:05:55 PM
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How crazy would it be if BSV now started going parabolic all the way to 100K because of Craig Wright ?  Grin
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December 18, 2021, 04:07:38 PM
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Seem to be the opposite of what you are saying. If he really is Satoshi, he should have stayed dead!

Real Satoshi wouldn't even take credit for what he had done compared to that Craig. He could have said something smart to make people believe but he hasn't even one but just a claim. I bet he didn't even code a single line to make the BSV different from the original.

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With a background in Mathematics, Computer Science, Economics and Law, it's hard to imagine a more qualified individual

noob account going pro-craig.. makes me laugh

though claiming to be Dr. Craig for decades he only completed his first doctorate in 2017, yes 4 years ago
yep he has been faking his education for decades

maybe try do do some research and realise:
he has been running scams for years. many many scams
he didnt even get involved in bitcoin until 2013
then tried faking he started in 2011 for tax purposes. and then when caught. tried faking he invented it in 2008 to evade penalties. in both cases the tax office didnt take his word for it

he has no good coding skills and instead hires others to code for him. aswell as hires others to write his patents and education material

he loves to talk about the theory of bitcoin but cannot even remember basic coding parts of what makes bitcoin, bitcoin.

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maybe its best to report this topic to be thrown in the trash along with the other silly noob accounts that try to pretend craig is important.. because, he is not important, nor satoshi






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Wherever I go, opinions seem to be divided about whether Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto or not.

You have been going to the wrong places then.

I have never seen anyone who thinks Craig is Satoshi.


Exactly!

Simply listen to reputable members here on the forum, especially Greg Maxwell
and anyone would be set straight about the Wrights claims.

The reputable members of the forum, members who have been in the space for
a number of years who have seen it all regarding Bitcoin dont know Satoshi but
sure as hell know who isnt Satoshi.

So there is no better place to get your CSW info than here on the forum!

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December 18, 2021, 04:53:49 PM
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So not only is this man highly creative, but also one of the most highly educated and intelligent people you'll ever come across. He is also already a billionaire from what I know, and extremely successful in various fields.


I don't know about satoshi's background, neither about CW I don't really care. But you think so, I don't see it that way in reality. If he was rich and a genius, he should be making something more out of bitcoins instead of pursuing recognition rights that don't belong to him. Did he lose inspiration, or simply has none??

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However, I do believe this casts a shroud of uncertainty over the future of BTC as Craig Wright is a hugely influential figure.
The great thing about bitcoin is that it doesn't matter if Santa, the NSA, Genghis Khan, or whoever is its founder.
It was open sourced, open licenced, and decentralised.
Even Satoshi couldn't change that at this point.
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2-He aims to convince people that bitcoin is not the "real bitcoin" and the "real bitcoin" is BSV and being officially named as bitcoin creator will help a lot in this. If he succeeds (I doubt that) we are talking about billions if not trillions of $$ deal.


The irony is that Craig Wright has claimed so many things but failed to prove any single of his claim. He is not satoshi but faketoshi. IMO its us who made such people popular by giving them so much importance. If he is real satoshi he can prove it by moving bitcoin sitting in satoshis wallet for decade.

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Wow. Some of the comments here! It seems some of the nay sayers are mostly basing their views on gossip and internet rumors. I'm open minded, but show me some real evidence ! And are you even aware that Craig Wright just won a civil lawsuit against him regarding the creation of Bitcoin ? ( they wanted to take away a big chunk of the early mined Bitcoins, which only Satoshi Nakamoto would have had access to ) Also, moving coins is not the only way to prove you have access to the private keys, there are other ways, and CW has already done this privately in front of a few selected individuals. You need to find the Kitco report on it ( keywords "Kitco News Satoshi Nakamoto")I would share the direct link here but last time I did that my post got removed by moderators.
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The real Satoshi haven seen the success of his works will never attempt to be draging issues and seeking attention without a proper technical proof. I understand Craig Wright has a lot of disciples who are now rekt for buying BSV instead of investing in BTC. Today, I don't expect his disciples to still be following him after heavily misleding them.  A patriot will never seek to destroy the good way.
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There's another guy... Roger Ver "the Bitcoin Jesus", who claims that Bitcoin Cash is the real deal because it can actually be used for payments. So it seems both Bitcoin SV and Bitcoin Cash are more efficient for electronic payments than BTC. Then there is Litecoin, Digibyte, Nano, and a dozen other cryptos that can be used as forms of payment, yet BTC remains at the top.
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December 18, 2021, 07:32:44 PM
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It's rare seeing someone openly support the clown called 'Craig Wright' and it's even rarer to see someone think that he is 'Satoshi Nakamoto'. Anyone with a half-decent brain knows that he is just lying for the sake of attention.

Shroud of uncertainty over BTC because of this attention seeking fool? This seriously cracked me up.

If you actually buy his crap, you need to get your head checked asap. Also, history has already proven that BTC is way ahead of all other cryptocurrencies and this won't change in the future either.

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December 18, 2021, 07:38:06 PM
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Who cares who is the real satoshi nakamoto? Does it change bitcoin fundamentals? Does it change anything? ... What satoshi have to say about bitcoin now... has zero value.
If someone proved that he/she/they is/are Satoshi, he/she/they could patent the blockchain technology and how we use it.
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December 18, 2021, 07:51:55 PM
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Anonymity remains the property of satoshi I think, regardless of what you say with the evidence presented as long as it has not been proven true forever will only be speculation because it cannot be proven for real and it is only an analysis of people's judgments.
actually i don't understand why people want to know who satoshi really is. So when they find out what they want to do? will it affect bitcoin again? actually it is enough for him to be anonymized, that is enough for him and we only need to know his name and his extraordinary creation, not to the real person

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December 18, 2021, 09:37:21 PM
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Wow. Some of the comments here! It seems some of the nay sayers are mostly basing their views on gossip and internet rumors.

sorry but YOU are basing it on internet rumours.
everyone else has read court documents, contacted the universities, his ex employers. and looked at the paper source facts. not the media attention clickbait CSW and his friends self created

seems you are now stuck in your own bubble of trying to find confirmation bias. where you only want to hear things that confirm your (false) opinion you have found yourself having.

if you were truly open minded. read the actual court documents not the media spin wrote by craigs friends.
contact craigs university and realise he didnt earn his Dr title at/pre-the millennium, but after 2016 by paying a scholar to ghost write his coursework for him.

if you truly had a open mind you will take the hints we are giving you and you would follow them up, if you remain with confirmation bias you will find yourself stuck amongst the liars and scammy people

There's another guy... Roger Ver "the Bitcoin Jesus", who claims that Bitcoin Cash is the real deal because it can actually be used for payments. So it seems both Bitcoin SV and Bitcoin Cash

well atleast you recognise they are talking about altcoins. where by craig has BSV.
so kudos for you for atleast admitting that craigs coin is an altcoin and not bitcoin...
.. now dont try and back track. you admitted it, so stick with that admission and accept that deep down you know craig is an altcoiner trying to play main coiner

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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December 18, 2021, 10:12:48 PM
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If someone proved that he/she/they is/are Satoshi, he/she/they could patent the blockchain technology and how we use it.

10 year after his disappearance? Nah man. Its not how it works. You can't patent open source code that was always open source and is being under development for last 10 years without  "he/she/they". There is nothing "he/she/they" can do after showing up. No one can. Thats what makes BTC strong.

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