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December 27, 2021, 04:03:48 PM
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Of course, that is whey we have weight classes here, because it aids us in analysing the fight. As Barrios is not used to this weight, while Thurman has been campaigning at welterweight since the beginning of his career. Unless Barrios are like the greats, Pacman and Canelo Alvarez who goes up in weight and defeated their opponents. There's nothing extraordinary with him, in fact we all know that Davis has knock him out already. And so fighting a bigger guy in Thurman might be a problem for Barrios.

As far as I know Mario Barrios changes his weight class on the advice of his coach. I don't think he wants to ruin his boxing career with this decision. And we don't see what's going on behind the scenes. It is quite possible that while he was out of the ring his training was more intense to feel good in the welterweight division.
This is a big challenge for Barrios and maybe he just really want to move forward and try a higher weight class and make his name on that level, that is possible as long as he hits the right weight, though it may not be easy but at least he has a chance to win especially Thurman is also came from a big loss and long lay off. This is a good math up, both are eager to win, we may not know what's happening behind the scene but at least we have the idea on their future match up.
Definitely, but he is biting more than he can chew here, I mean why he chooses a former champion to be his first fight in this division? Maybe he thinks that Thurman, being away and coming from a loss will be an advantage for him? But I doubt it though, Thurman has face a lot of great boxers in this division and so far only Pacquiao beat him.

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December 27, 2021, 06:04:09 PM
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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Each of us has our own views on this or that fight and boxers. This is quite normal. Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers. I probably won't bet on this fight myself, but I will definitely watch it. There is still enough time to change my mind though.

Well I'm been betting on boxing matches for years now, and one thing I've look in the boxers past fights and the weight his in. So obviously, Barrios here is coming from a lost (and so is Thurman), but in this fight, he might not be comfortable going up in weight in 147 lbs. So he is really at a disadvantage here and that's why I said the chances for him are slim to upset a fighter like Thurman in a division that he is more familiar with.

Some sports analysts believe that after such a long break it is hard to return to the ring in the same form as Keith Thurman had before the three-year break. That's why I think the odds are even. May the best man win, but I'd like to see Mario Barrios win. I like the fact that he took this fight so well and that deserves a lot of credit.

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December 27, 2021, 06:17:12 PM
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Definitely, but he is biting more than he can chew here, I mean why he chooses a former champion to be his first fight in this division? Maybe he thinks that Thurman, being away and coming from a loss will be an advantage for him? But I doubt it though, Thurman has face a lot of great boxers in this division and so far only Pacquiao beat him.

His first fight would be very intense, Thurman is not an easy opponent from this division knowing that he is also a champ back then is already a good challenged from Barrios camp, aside from being beaten by legendary Pacman and away from the ring he's still young and very capable of knocking Barrios down.

On the side of Barrios, if ever he crosses this new path with a win, it's a good green signal for him to proceed and aim for more big fight.

Both of them have a good reason for winning this fight. One is to regain name and the other one is to start making his name from this division.

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December 27, 2021, 09:36:25 PM
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Definitely, but he is biting more than he can chew here, I mean why he chooses a former champion to be his first fight in this division? Maybe he thinks that Thurman, being away and coming from a loss will be an advantage for him? But I doubt it though, Thurman has face a lot of great boxers in this division and so far only Pacquiao beat him.

His first fight would be very intense, Thurman is not an easy opponent from this division knowing that he is also a champ back then is already a good challenged from Barrios camp, aside from being beaten by legendary Pacman and away from the ring he's still young and very capable of knocking Barrios down.

On the side of Barrios, if ever he crosses this new path with a win, it's a good green signal for him to proceed and aim for more big fight.

Both of them have a good reason for winning this fight. One is to regain name and the other one is to start making his name from this division.

Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

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December 27, 2021, 10:01:41 PM
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Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

he have that kind of advantage Thurman is more likely familiar with this division even he's been away for a while, he already fought big names and champion from this weight, while Barrios still new and trying to make his run from this new weight, though with trainings and scouting the chance for Barrios still possible.

This sport already have many upset and we can't really conclude until the fight was declared and a name has been announces as winner.

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December 27, 2021, 10:26:22 PM
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Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

And the benefit of losing against Manny Pacquiao, these boxers now learn to become more serious and humble the next time they fight on the ring. Aside from that, there will be lots of strategies to be made now just in case there will be a time they will face again a boxer that is almost close to the strength of Manny.

Thurman might be rusty for others but boxers as boxers. It's not that he take a break for 5 years therefore once he returns to ring, the strength is still there. He's surely doing this usual exercise routine even on hiatus and since he now has a scheduled fight, the training will be more intense from now.
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December 27, 2021, 10:29:53 PM
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Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

he have that kind of advantage Thurman is more likely familiar with this division even he's been away for a while, he already fought big names and champion from this weight, while Barrios still new and trying to make his run from this new weight, though with trainings and scouting the chance for Barrios still possible.

This sport already have many upset and we can't really conclude until the fight was declared and a name has been announces as winner.
As long the fight isnt still concluded then there would be still lots of things that could happen and yes there are lots of situations on where upsets do really happen and i could still see some glimpse or chance on where Barrios could possibly pull it off but it wouldnt really be simple as it sounds.Yes, its true that Thurman does have that experience yet fighting out big names like Pacquiao and others does prove out that even he's
away but doesnt mean that he would just simply forget those. Experience does count but everything could still happen until that final bell rings.

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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

It could be, but I'm thinking otherwise, sure Thurman might be out and did had a long break in boxing. But for sure he has kept himself in good shape despite not having a professional fight in 2 years. And so can still see that he is still fit despite that long layoffs. So maybe it will have an effect on him but it won't be a deterrent for win to win against Barrios. He is trying this weight for the first time and this is only might be a problem for him.

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December 28, 2021, 08:22:44 PM
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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

Maybe yes or maybe no, you gave your point and we do have our own opinion about this fight. There's no certain and there's no one who can
Dictate unless there is someone behind this fight who will manipulate, not saying it's possible what who knows? Just bet on who you believe will win and will bring you the money.

Good luck if you will place your bet on barrios. Enjoy the watching while waiting for the outcome. Tongue Roll Eyes

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December 28, 2021, 08:55:39 PM
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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

Probably that is going to be the set up. Thurman coming off from a long layoff will have this fight as a heater for him on getting laced up to the ring again. Now, Thurman might have all the advantage for this match, but Barrios is younger and hungry for more victories, so I guess it's not something to underestimate with.
Let's see what the odds will tell us on how huge the gap for this fight. I might agree that this could be a cherry picked for Thurman.

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December 28, 2021, 10:23:12 PM
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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

Probably that is going to be the set up. Thurman coming off from a long layoff will have this fight as a heater for him on getting laced up to the ring again. Now, Thurman might have all the advantage for this match, but Barrios is younger and hungry for more victories, so I guess it's not something to underestimate with.
Let's see what the odds will tell us on how huge the gap for this fight. I might agree that this could be a cherry picked for Thurman.
Heater you do say?

You are right on this one but Barrios shouldnt really be underestimated and as mentioned or said that this guy is hungry for victory or simply we could say that this one is on its peak as of this moment.
Even though experience might be inferior compared to Thurman but theres still some chance.

For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

This would be an interesting fight for Thurman. But high likely that the odds will favor on him here. If he wins this, he may go after with the other champions and test once more his strength and power. This is like a warm up for him for the succeeding fights that he will have. With the last fight of him from Pacquiao, I believe, he already learned something from that loss. If he will continue to be a humble boxer, he will gain more followers.
But if he will finally decide to hang his gloves, being a boxing commentator is a very good job for him.
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December 29, 2021, 12:47:44 AM
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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

I'm not really looking at age gaps difference as a factor in any fights, being advantage or disadvantage. Well, depends on who's the boxer involved.

At some point, Thurman might not literally end up not underdoing training for 2 years, maybe not just regular as before. And besides, with his 31 wins with an 80% KnockOut rate, his experience will surely automatically turn back his usual shape once he fights in the ring. He is now decided to come back and that will fuel his usual performance or even better.

“Get ready because I’m putting in the work to put on a show against Mario Barrios on February 5 on pay-per-view. It’s begun, and my time is now.”"

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December 29, 2021, 01:29:25 AM
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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

This would be an interesting fight for Thurman. But high likely that the odds will favor on him here. If he wins this, he may go after with the other champions and test once more his strength and power. This is like a warm up for him for the succeeding fights that he will have. With the last fight of him from Pacquiao, I believe, he already learned something from that loss. If he will continue to be a humble boxer, he will gain more followers.
But if he will finally decide to hang his gloves, being a boxing commentator is a very good job for him.

If you listen from his interviews after his fight he seems to learn his mistakes from the Pacquiao fight. And for sure it has put a dent on him because he step out of the game for so long. And maybe now he is over with it that's why he is making a comeback and seems to be rejuvenated already. Yes, he will be the odds favourite, no way that Barrios losing to Davis will make him the favourite. Thurman might go for a knock out too if presented.

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December 29, 2021, 02:23:16 AM
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It's Mario Barrios, not Danilo Barrios. You must have confused the boxer Mario Barrios with the local actor and dancer Danilo. LOL. Grin

Anyway, although it is possible that Thurman could score a knockout in this fight, Mario shouldn't be fazed with Thurman. Mario had just experienced his first loss, and a TKO at that, but he shouldn't allow it to get the better of him, emotionally and psychologically especially. It will only make him lose. Thurman is probably not going to be the Thurman before. He hadn't had a fight for almost 3 years.
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December 29, 2021, 12:42:20 PM
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It's Mario Barrios, not Danilo Barrios. You must have confused the boxer Mario Barrios with the local actor and dancer Danilo. LOL. Grin
Haha, who said that mate.

He is Danilo Barriors for those who doesn't know.

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Anyway, although it is possible that Thurman could score a knockout in this fight, Mario shouldn't be fazed with Thurman. Mario had just experienced his first loss, and a TKO at that, but he shouldn't allow it to get the better of him, emotionally and psychologically especially. It will only make him lose. Thurman is probably not going to be the Thurman before. He hadn't had a fight for almost 3 years.
Thurman is wiser now, I'm pretty sure he learned a lot from his fight against Pacman, and though he was inactive, I still think that he is a dangerous fighter and able to maintain his routine in boxing.

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December 29, 2021, 04:34:45 PM
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It's Mario Barrios, not Danilo Barrios. You must have confused the boxer Mario Barrios with the local actor and dancer Danilo. LOL. Grin
Haha, who said that mate.

That's what's written in the OP. I was a little confused at first who Danilo Barrios is. The name sounds familiar but he must be a different person, surely not the boxer who is scheduled to face Thurman. And then I suddenly remembered there was somebody who was named Danilo Barrios in the local entertainment industry. LOL!

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Anyway, although it is possible that Thurman could score a knockout in this fight, Mario shouldn't be fazed with Thurman. Mario had just experienced his first loss, and a TKO at that, but he shouldn't allow it to get the better of him, emotionally and psychologically especially. It will only make him lose. Thurman is probably not going to be the Thurman before. He hadn't had a fight for almost 3 years.
Thurman is wiser now, I'm pretty sure he learned a lot from his fight against Pacman, and though he was inactive, I still think that he is a dangerous fighter and able to maintain his routine in boxing.

Every boxer is a tad wiser after every fight. But that losing fight with Manny Pacquiao won't make Thurman win in his next fights.

It's one thing to remain physically active and in shape and another to be conditioning in an upcoming match. The last time Thurman fought was in mid-2019. After that, he never had any proper conditioning for a boxing match. Whether he stayed fit in between his last fight and the preparations in his 2022 fight, we do not know. What we're sure of is that he never underwent tedious trainings in those months.
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December 29, 2021, 05:01:53 PM
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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

I'm not really looking at age gaps difference as a factor in any fights, being advantage or disadvantage. Well, depends on who's the boxer involved.

At some point, Thurman might not literally end up not underdoing training for 2 years, maybe not just regular as before. And besides, with his 31 wins with an 80% KnockOut rate, his experience will surely automatically turn back his usual shape once he fights in the ring. He is now decided to come back and that will fuel his usual performance or even better.

“Get ready because I’m putting in the work to put on a show against Mario Barrios on February 5 on pay-per-view. It’s begun, and my time is now.”"

of Thurman's 30 month long break playing boxing. this will be a matter of self-improvement in boxing fights, I imagine thurman will try hard in his action later against Mario Barrios, thurman will appear full in his next match against Mario Barrios even though not necessarily win. Both Thurman and Barrios wanted their boxing careers to last in their hobby. of all, the careers of the two of them dimmed in boxing matches after some time..?

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