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December 25, 2021, 10:13:06 AM
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https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/news/keith-thurman-mario-barrios-collide-feb-5-blockbuster

So we are now going to see the come backing Keith "One Time" Thurman against Danilo Barrios on Feb 5. Both of them coming from a lost, Thurman to Pacquiao and Barrios to Tank Davis.

I think this is a cherry pick fight for Thurman though, it's a long layoff and he could experience a ring rust. But Barrios is coming up in weight in the 147 lbs and it will not be an easy move up. I'm seeing Thurman maybe scoring a knock out win in the later rounds maybe 11 or less.

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December 25, 2021, 10:49:10 AM
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So after Barrios gets KO by Tank Davis, he decided to go up to the welterweight where in there's a lot of big puncher? The only reason I can think of is that he really is too big for 140 lbs and there's no way he can make that weight in his next fight.

For Thurman, it's been a long layoff away from boxing, but yes, probably this is a cherry pick fight for his comeback. Because admit it or not, Barrios can't take his punches so Thurman has all the advantages in this fight.

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December 25, 2021, 10:58:28 AM
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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

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December 25, 2021, 11:09:25 AM
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Thurman being a cocky boxer who always underestimating his opponents is a reason that he is very prone to losing all of the time no matter how much training he had for an upcoming fight, just like what happened to his fight with Manny Pacquiao. I would bet for Barrios because he is more calm and focus when he is fighting, no throwing any attitude while fighting, just pure sportsmanship.
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December 25, 2021, 11:10:15 AM
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~ I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.
If Crawford - Spence Jr. won't be set after the Ugas fight, then Thurman will be a good match up for him.

Thurman wasn't really that bad against Pacman when they fought and I guess that's something he could build on moving forward. Hopefully, he wins dominantly and convince promoters to give him a bigger fight.
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December 25, 2021, 11:18:31 AM
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~ I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.
If Crawford - Spence Jr. won't be set after the Ugas fight, then Thurman will be a good match up for him.

Thurman wasn't really that bad against Pacman when they fought and I guess that's something he could build on moving forward. Hopefully, he wins dominantly and convince promoters to give him a bigger fight.

I hoping that Thurman will win here by a KO. I think even if he has not been in the boxing ring, he still have that power in this division. And that is true also, he is doing good in the Pacman fight, until he was caught in the body and that really slows him down.

You can see Pacman's face after the fight, he was hit many times by Thurman and maybe Keith soften up Pacman and Ugas really did the final nail for Pacman's greatness.

But if Thurman wins, then he can either get Spence or Crawford next.
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https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/news/keith-thurman-mario-barrios-collide-feb-5-blockbuster

So we are now going to see the come backing Keith "One Time" Thurman against Danilo Barrios on Feb 5. Both of them coming from a lost, Thurman to Pacquiao and Barrios to Tank Davis.

I think this is a cherry pick fight for Thurman though, it's a long layoff and he could experience a ring rust. But Barrios is coming up in weight in the 147 lbs and it will not be an easy move up. I'm seeing Thurman maybe scoring a knock out win in the later rounds maybe 11 or less.
Thurman and Barrios both accepted defeat in their last fight, Barrios lost by TKO in the 11th round to Davis and Thurman lost to Manny Pacquiao.
Even though Thurman hasn't fought in a long time, it looks like he's going to be the favorite and it's going to be an interesting fight as both of them will do whatever it takes to win.
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December 25, 2021, 11:30:59 AM
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If I'm thurman I will not miss this oppurtunity to claim what he has before, train what he have to and focus on this only fight. He has power and a pro attitude that's why I like him, he's just becomes unfortunate after lossing to Pacman.

After winning this fight or two will probably give him opportunity to fight again on championships on the welterweight division.

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December 25, 2021, 11:57:33 AM
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If I'm thurman I will not miss this oppurtunity to claim what he has before, train what he have to and focus on this only fight. He has power and a pro attitude that's why I like him, he's just becomes unfortunate after lossing to Pacman.

After winning this fight or two will probably give him opportunity to fight again on championships on the welterweight division.

If he keeps active after this fight, and assuming he wins, then maybe he will fight for the belt again. But maybe if he wins here and then go into his other job of being a boxer analyst and commentator, then it might take time again for him to fight.

And only 2 names pop up here, Crawford and Spence jr that he needs to set his mind as his next fight.
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December 25, 2021, 12:04:44 PM
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Thurman carried himself quite well on his bout against Pacquiao, and if he learned anything from that match-up, he will definitely be able to use that against Barrios. Then again, he has been on the quiet side for quite some time, and he'd be having a hard time regaining his strength in the ring. Meanwhile Barrios is still a decent boxer with good jabs and spacing on the ring. He could nail this one if he got his timing right.

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December 25, 2021, 12:19:47 PM
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Still have a plenty of time to prepare so even if there's a long lay off with Thurman, I believe he can still catch up. Barrios also loss on his last fight, which makes him decide to take another step to move forward, maybe this is the right move for him but he must do everything to meet the weight target, or else this fight will not push through. Anyway, if is settled already, I'll go for Thurman on this one I'm sure he is so eager to bounce back.
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December 25, 2021, 02:47:54 PM
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If I'm thurman I will not miss this oppurtunity to claim what he has before, train what he have to and focus on this only fight. He has power and a pro attitude that's why I like him, he's just becomes unfortunate after lossing to Pacman.

After winning this fight or two will probably give him opportunity to fight again on championships on the welterweight division.
This can be a good match for Thurman to prove his worth again and of course, losing is very normal and what matters here is that, how you bounce back from that fall and become stronger that before. He must do everything on this match if he wants to get back on championships level again, Barrios is not an easy opponent, both of them have to meet the criteria first so we can have this match, better for them to start training now.

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Here's a quick recap of records for these boxers. As you can see, their records for their careers are extremely close, Kieth Thurman is only ahead of 3 wins, both of them got 1 loss.
But the height and reach, Mario Barrios got the advantage which for me this is the significant advantage for him even the record or experience is got by Kieth Thurman.

I'm looking forward for the fair odds for this fight, I'm betting for Mario Barrios this time.

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Thurman is a champion, it's just that he lose against Manny in a split decision, but he is coming back because he aims to be a champion again. In order to do that, he hs to fight the champions in his division and they are Spence, Ugas, and Crawford. I heard that they are cooking a big fight for Thurman, probably that would happen after this fight and it's expected that Thurman will win the fight.

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December 25, 2021, 03:37:25 PM
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So after Barrios gets KO by Tank Davis, he decided to go up to the welterweight where in there's a lot of big puncher? The only reason I can think of is that he really is too big for 140 lbs and there's no way he can make that weight in his next fight.

For Thurman, it's been a long layoff away from boxing, but yes, probably this is a cherry pick fight for his comeback. Because admit it or not, Barrios can't take his punches so Thurman has all the advantages in this fight.

it could be an easy fight for Thurman he is already confident in such weight class even the long beauty rest. maybe moving to welterweight can be a good opportunity for Barrios too, he is still younger than those top boxers in this division such as Ugas and Spence, maybe he can beat these guys too aiming for Crawford.

beating the guys who are not in thier prime is a good strategy. Spence is just 30 though.









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December 25, 2021, 09:06:06 PM
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Thurman is a champion, it's just that he lose against Manny in a split decision, but he is coming back because he aims to be a champion again. In order to do that, he hs to fight the champions in his division and they are Spence, Ugas, and Crawford. I heard that they are cooking a big fight for Thurman, probably that would happen after this fight and it's expected that Thurman will win the fight.

it is indeed great to see that Thurman is back. that's a long rest for him though. i understand, he will fight barrios first before aiming to fight champions like spence/ugas/crawford. he needs to test himself first before going big. but in this match, more then likely, thurman will be the favourite.
hopefully, this feb 5 date will not push thru to another date because of covid situations or if any one of them is infected. you know, these days, it's quite unpredictable.

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December 25, 2021, 09:14:43 PM
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Thurman is a champion, it's just that he lose against Manny in a split decision, but he is coming back because he aims to be a champion again. In order to do that, he hs to fight the champions in his division and they are Spence, Ugas, and Crawford. I heard that they are cooking a big fight for Thurman, probably that would happen after this fight and it's expected that Thurman will win the fight.
Yes, he was a champion but still he must earn it again and winning on this fight is a big thing. If there’s a rumor about having a big fight after this match then I can assume that they are confident that Thurman will win, that’s quiet suspicious to me. Well, Barrios is also eager to win and would not let his reputation to be ruined again easily, he will fight for this.
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December 25, 2021, 10:00:32 PM
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If I'm thurman I will not miss this oppurtunity to claim what he has before, train what he have to and focus on this only fight. He has power and a pro attitude that's why I like him, he's just becomes unfortunate after lossing to Pacman.

After winning this fight or two will probably give him opportunity to fight again on championships on the welterweight division.

Fight is decided on the momen.Every person had their own strategy over fight.Some may do the defence .At the end ,they play the offence game and win.The second type player will play full offence game.And with the offence game.So all the player game vary with the player.Only the winning person made their name on history.Other will not remember by future generation.



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December 25, 2021, 10:16:41 PM
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Thurman is a champion, it's just that he lose against Manny in a split decision, but he is coming back because he aims to be a champion again. In order to do that, he hs to fight the champions in his division and they are Spence, Ugas, and Crawford. I heard that they are cooking a big fight for Thurman, probably that would happen after this fight and it's expected that Thurman will win the fight.
Yes, he was a champion but still he must earn it again and winning on this fight is a big thing. If there’s a rumor about having a big fight after this match then I can assume that they are confident that Thurman will win, that’s quiet suspicious to me. Well, Barrios is also eager to win and would not let his reputation to be ruined again easily, he will fight for this.
It's also suspicious to me, because I don't see any reason to be so confident in Thurman since he hasn't played anymore since 2019 and also considering he is going to play against a strong adversary who is active in boxing scenario, helding the superlight title from 2019 to 2021.

Both of them are in similar situations, so I think there are no favorites on this fight. In this case it might worth to bet on the underdog if the odds look interesting.

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https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/news/keith-thurman-mario-barrios-collide-feb-5-blockbuster

So we are now going to see the come backing Keith "One Time" Thurman against Danilo Barrios on Feb 5. Both of them coming from a lost, Thurman to Pacquiao and Barrios to Tank Davis.

I think this is a cherry pick fight for Thurman though, it's a long layoff and he could experience a ring rust. But Barrios is coming up in weight in the 147 lbs and it will not be an easy move up. I'm seeing Thurman maybe scoring a knock out win in the later rounds maybe 11 or less.
Thurman could possibly beat Barrios but the long layoff will have an effect, two years layoff is such a long layoff, although I don't know his condition during the time that he is in a layoff period, while Barrios is still fresh from his last fight against Tank.
if Thurman can shake off that ring rust he can beat Barrios, yes I consider this a cherry-pick for Thurman he is the better pick for this fight, Barrios was exposed on his last fight and this is something that Thurman will exploit.


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December 25, 2021, 10:38:46 PM
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Thurman is a champion, it's just that he lose against Manny in a split decision, but he is coming back because he aims to be a champion again. In order to do that, he hs to fight the champions in his division and they are Spence, Ugas, and Crawford. I heard that they are cooking a big fight for Thurman, probably that would happen after this fight and it's expected that Thurman will win the fight.
Yes, he was a champion but still he must earn it again and winning on this fight is a big thing. If there’s a rumor about having a big fight after this match then I can assume that they are confident that Thurman will win, that’s quiet suspicious to me. Well, Barrios is also eager to win and would not let his reputation to be ruined again easily, he will fight for this.
It's also suspicious to me, because I don't see any reason to be so confident in Thurman since he hasn't played anymore since 2019 and also considering he is going to play against a strong adversary who is active in boxing scenario, helding the superlight title from 2019 to 2021.

Both of them are in similar situations, so I think there are no favorites on this fight. In this case it might worth to bet on the underdog if the odds look interesting.
Its impossible that there would be no favorites but this is actually a hard thing to find out which one would really be for you to put your bets on but i would really still stick with Thurman on here.

Even though its been a long time he hadnt a fight but doesnt mean that he had stopped on maintaining his shape? I dont think so and as a boxer you wouldnt
really let those things to happen.Although Barrios would really be a tough opponent but lets see on who would be ending up to be favorite and whose underdog.

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December 25, 2021, 10:45:49 PM
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Thurman is a champion, it's just that he lose against Manny in a split decision, but he is coming back because he aims to be a champion again. In order to do that, he hs to fight the champions in his division and they are Spence, Ugas, and Crawford. I heard that they are cooking a big fight for Thurman, probably that would happen after this fight and it's expected that Thurman will win the fight.
Yes, he was a champion but still he must earn it again and winning on this fight is a big thing. If there’s a rumor about having a big fight after this match then I can assume that they are confident that Thurman will win, that’s quiet suspicious to me. Well, Barrios is also eager to win and would not let his reputation to be ruined again easily, he will fight for this.
It's also suspicious to me, because I don't see any reason to be so confident in Thurman since he hasn't played anymore since 2019 and also considering he is going to play against a strong adversary who is active in boxing scenario, helding the superlight title from 2019 to 2021.

Both of them are in similar situations, so I think there are no favorites on this fight. In this case it might worth to bet on the underdog if the odds look interesting.
Its impossible that there would be no favorites but this is actually a hard thing to find out which one would really be for you to put your bets on but i would really still stick with Thurman on here.

Even though its been a long time he hadnt a fight but doesnt mean that he had stopped on maintaining his shape? I dont think so and as a boxer you wouldnt
really let those things to happen.Although Barrios would really be a tough opponent but lets see on who would be ending up to be favorite and whose underdog.

The odds for these two may be near with each other. Barrios may be the slight favorite of the bookies here as he's more active than Thurman. Though both lost their last fight. Anyway, we will know who's the favorite here once sportsbooks starts listing this fight. Can Thurman win this fight and re-start his boxing career again?
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December 25, 2021, 10:58:52 PM
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At last, Keith Thurman will now finally be back in action. There's a series of events after his loss to Pacquiao that make him not to be active in boxing. Personal reason or not, at least he now decided to get back on track. It's good to see another top-rank boxer in their division joining the party once again.

Although Keith Thurman is full of talks and sometimes arrogant, I think he got a good lesson after fighting Pacquiao. I'm with him to win the fight and challenge those other top boxers in his league.

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December 25, 2021, 11:53:48 PM
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Thurman is a champion, it's just that he lose against Manny in a split decision, but he is coming back because he aims to be a champion again. In order to do that, he hs to fight the champions in his division and they are Spence, Ugas, and Crawford. I heard that they are cooking a big fight for Thurman, probably that would happen after this fight and it's expected that Thurman will win the fight.
Yes, he was a champion but still he must earn it again and winning on this fight is a big thing. If there’s a rumor about having a big fight after this match then I can assume that they are confident that Thurman will win, that’s quiet suspicious to me. Well, Barrios is also eager to win and would not let his reputation to be ruined again easily, he will fight for this.
It's also suspicious to me, because I don't see any reason to be so confident in Thurman since he hasn't played anymore since 2019 and also considering he is going to play against a strong adversary who is active in boxing scenario, helding the superlight title from 2019 to 2021.

Both of them are in similar situations, so I think there are no favorites on this fight. In this case it might worth to bet on the underdog if the odds look interesting.
Its impossible that there would be no favorites but this is actually a hard thing to find out which one would really be for you to put your bets on but i would really still stick with Thurman on here.

Even though its been a long time he hadnt a fight but doesnt mean that he had stopped on maintaining his shape? I dont think so and as a boxer you wouldnt
really let those things to happen.Although Barrios would really be a tough opponent but lets see on who would be ending up to be favorite and whose underdog.

The odds for these two may be near with each other. Barrios may be the slight favorite of the bookies here as he's more active than Thurman. Though both lost their last fight. Anyway, we will know who's the favorite here once sportsbooks starts listing this fight. Can Thurman win this fight and re-start his boxing career again?
Both had lost their last fights but i do still favor on Thurman on here even though he's not that active but recovering or regaining his bodybuild or condition wont really be that hard as a boxer.

I do presume too that odds wont really be that far in gaps which makes more harder to make out selections between bets but i do have my support for Keith on here though.

Barrios isnt a bad choice either so it would vary on someone.

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December 26, 2021, 02:28:01 AM
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Very intriguing match, I mean Thurman is away from boxing for 2 years and finally decided to come back because there's a lot of fights around not involving him. So I guess it's enough for him to make a comeback and put his name into the discussions again. But what intrigues me is the fighter he chooses to make a comeback, he is a 140 lbs trying to get a feel of 147 lbs. So this is going to be an easy fight for Thurman.

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December 26, 2021, 02:31:24 AM
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Very intriguing match, I mean Thurman is away from boxing for 2 years and finally decided to come back because there's a lot of fights around not involving him. So I guess it's enough for him to make a comeback and put his name into the discussions again. But what intrigues me is the fighter he chooses to make a comeback, he is a 140 lbs trying to get a feel of 147 lbs. So this is going to be an easy fight for Thurman.

I wouldn't say that this is an easy fight for Thurman, as you have said, 2 years away from boxing so it might take some time for him to get back into his groove. Barrios is big for 140 lbs so it make sense for him to move up in weight for 147 lbs. He may also thinking the same that it's going to be an easy fight for him since Thurman might suffer from ring rust in the early rounds of their fight. And he can score knockdown or on points on judges score card. And if he survived this fight then there is a good chance than the can win base on scores.

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December 26, 2021, 03:29:43 AM
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At last, Keith Thurman will now finally be back in action. There's a series of events after his loss to Pacquiao that make him not to be active in boxing. Personal reason or not, at least he now decided to get back on track. It's good to see another top-rank boxer in their division joining the party once again.

Although Keith Thurman is full of talks and sometimes arrogant, I think he got a good lesson after fighting Pacquiao. I'm with him to win the fight and challenge those other top boxers in his league.

Yeah I totally agree mate, I think it's more of a mental battle for Thurman to get to the ring again after that devastating lost to Manny Pacquiao. But by the looks of it, he has since recovered already and can get back his body in the gym to train and forget about that fight and get back into the contention again.

And maybe if he wins this fight, Spence, Crawford and even Ugas could be a good fight for him in the future. And in this fight, I'm favouring him to win by ko or by a lopsided decision.

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December 26, 2021, 03:58:30 AM
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Very intriguing match, I mean Thurman is away from boxing for 2 years and finally decided to come back because there's a lot of fights around not involving him. So I guess it's enough for him to make a comeback and put his name into the discussions again. But what intrigues me is the fighter he chooses to make a comeback, he is a 140 lbs trying to get a feel of 147 lbs. So this is going to be an easy fight for Thurman.

It could the money worth $2.5 million from the Pacquiao fight had dried up already now it is time to come back since this pandemic is just not helping.
Everyone's goal is to get a shot for the belt it would a climb for Thurman, he wasted 2 years unless he did something significant within that time. Meanwhile, Barrios is also stepping into a new liar making this a fair fight. Who could be the underdog in this fight?

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December 26, 2021, 04:03:42 AM
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Let's just appreciate Thurman since this is his first fight after losing the first time. he's back again and he thinks he can beat this guy with no problem since the preparations are not too long. I hope he regains his speed and power this time because it's such a waste for him to rest just like that after beating everyone except Manny Pacquiao. This time, he can showcase again his skill and if any chance he won by Knockout, automatically he will be up against some strong opponent again or another chance to take on a welterweight champion.

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December 26, 2021, 05:10:16 AM
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Let's just appreciate Thurman since this is his first fight after losing the first time. he's back again and he thinks he can beat this guy with no problem since the preparations are not too long.
He can easily beat Barrios he has a weak chin and body, this is a good comeback fight for Thurman and he picks the right opponent in Barrios who is a former champion, Thurman should make a big statement on his comeback, there's a lot of big fights lining up for him if he knocks out Barrios but if he losses this fight it will have a big effect on his motivation and the boxing community might think it's time for him to retire.

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December 26, 2021, 05:16:31 AM
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Let's just appreciate Thurman since this is his first fight after losing the first time. he's back again and he thinks he can beat this guy with no problem since the preparations are not too long.
He can easily beat Barrios he has a weak chin and body, this is a good comeback fight for Thurman and he picks the right opponent in Barrios who is a former champion, Thurman should make a big statement on his comeback, there's a lot of big fights lining up for him if he knocks out Barrios but if he losses this fight it will have a big effect on his motivation and the boxing community might think it's time for him to retire.
He was inactive after he lost against Manny Pacquiao, now that Manny is out, he will come back and prove to everyone that he can still be a champion. Not too late for him, I believe he would fairly have a chance to win in the division of Spence and Crawford, and I'm sure he is a tough challenger for any champion in the division.

Thurman just to earn a good win, and I will not doubt he can make it next year.

I was looking for the betting odds but seems like it's still not up this early.

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December 26, 2021, 05:59:58 AM
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I was looking for the betting odds but seems like it's still not up this early.
By next month probably the odds will be available, and I expect that Thurman will be the heavy favorite to win. He is inactive for more than 2 years but I still believe he still have the skills to win, as long as he consider his upcoming a serious fight and he will train hard, for sure he will get a convincing win.

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December 26, 2021, 08:25:09 AM
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Thurman being a cocky boxer who always underestimating his opponents is a reason that he is very prone to losing all of the time no matter how much training he had for an upcoming fight, just like what happened to his fight with Manny Pacquiao. I would bet for Barrios because he is more calm and focus when he is fighting, no throwing any attitude while fighting, just pure sportsmanship.

Boxers who underestimate their opponents usually lose in the end. Most of the time, the quiet and humble boxers are more prepared and have stronger stamina. I'm sure that Thurman will get surprised by Barios' determination. I would also bet on Barios because I could see a huge potential in him.
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December 26, 2021, 08:52:07 AM
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Thurman being a cocky boxer who always underestimating his opponents is a reason that he is very prone to losing all of the time no matter how much training he had for an upcoming fight, just like what happened to his fight with Manny Pacquiao. I would bet for Barrios because he is more calm and focus when he is fighting, no throwing any attitude while fighting, just pure sportsmanship.

Boxers who underestimate their opponents usually lose in the end. Most of the time, the quiet and humble boxers are more prepared and have stronger stamina. I'm sure that Thurman will get surprised by Barios' determination. I would also bet on Barios because I could see a huge potential in him.

I can fully agree with that assessment. Throughout the years its really been the cocky professional boxxers who lost big time whenever they let up due to how they the misunderestimated their opponent. I would not be too keen on betting on Thurman just for that reason. Boxxing has a lot to do with mental strength of will and ego really pushes that will down, ending up in an embarressing loss.

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December 26, 2021, 08:58:54 AM
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This gonna be the time for Thurman to show his fans that he is still a champion despite losing his belt to Manny. He deserves this fight and I believe he still has the power to make it possible but his opponent is young and hunger for winning as well and that he could never think that it will be just an easy fight nor an easy winning.

And I think, he doesn't need to be a cocky boxer anymore as karma might come once again. Ohh, if he wanted to win, then he must have to take this seriously, otherwise, he ends up losing his reputation.
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This gonna be the time for Thurman to show his fans that he is still a champion despite losing his belt to Manny. He deserves this fight and I believe he still has the power to make it possible but his opponent is young and hunger for winning as well and that he could never think that it will be just an easy fight nor an easy winning.

And I think, he doesn't need to be a cocky boxer anymore as karma might come once again. Ohh, if he wanted to win, then he must have to take this seriously, otherwise, he ends up losing his reputation.

Both fighters are coming from a loss so this is a very important fight for both fighters, the winner will go on and the loser will be on the brink of retirement, I'm sure both fighters will prepare hard for this fight, Barrios will be prepared for this fight because he just fought a few months ago.
Thurman is my favorite to win this fight if only he can come out from ring rust that hounded every boxer that is on a long vacation.
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This gonna be the time for Thurman to show his fans that he is still a champion despite losing his belt to Manny. He deserves this fight and I believe he still has the power to make it possible but his opponent is young and hunger for winning as well and that he could never think that it will be just an easy fight nor an easy winning.

And I think, he doesn't need to be a cocky boxer anymore as karma might come once again. Ohh, if he wanted to win, then he must have to take this seriously, otherwise, he ends up losing his reputation.

Or he still has it, to be one of the champions in this division because it is pretty much stack up, with Spence, Crawford and Ugas.

And for sure his fans are waiting for him to make a comeback fight and he chooses a fighter that he can show his power.

But as far as his cockiness, I don't think he will change his style. He also lost his reputation when a 40 year old boxer handed his ass on a silver plate. Lol. But it's over now, Pacquiao has retired so Thurman must go on with his career.
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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

losing against Davis i think is understandable since that beast is really good, he knows he can't beat those boys. some say he is following Floyd's steps. but Barrios going up to welterweight is his best option because the guys in the welterweight have already aged including Crawford. it's his time to shine in that division. he only loses once and that's with Davis, he can box, and combined with the right time in moving up, glory days will be restored.









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December 26, 2021, 01:28:08 PM
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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Each of us has our own views on this or that fight and boxers. This is quite normal. Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers. I probably won't bet on this fight myself, but I will definitely watch it. There is still enough time to change my mind though.

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December 26, 2021, 02:16:15 PM
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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Each of us has our own views on this or that fight and boxers. This is quite normal. Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers. I probably won't bet on this fight myself, but I will definitely watch it. There is still enough time to change my mind though.

That's right, betting has to be taken seriously because we are risking money, there are fights that we choose to watch only but would not put our bet because we are not confident with our prediction or we just don't see the value for us to win. For me, this is a big fight and I will never miss watching this and I'm surely gonna put my bet. As I am impressed with Thurman's performance against pacquioa although he lose, so I would put my bet on him to win this fight.

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That's right, betting has to be taken seriously because we are risking money, there are fights that we choose to watch only but would not put our bet because we are not confident with our prediction or we just don't see the value for us to win. For me, this is a big fight and I will never miss watching this and I'm surely gonna put my bet. As I am impressed with Thurman's performance against pacquioa although he lose, so I would put my bet on him to win this fight.

And as a bettor, it is our responsibility to carefully assess the fighter that we will be going to put our bets on because we are totally taking the risk of putting our money in the hand of a fighter if he wins then you will also gonna win. With regards to the upcoming fight of Thurman vs. Barrios, referring to their fight record and base on their fight experiences I believe that both are capable to put each other into a knock-out win. Both are also has a single loss, this will be a challenging fight for the two fighters but at this time I will going to favor on Thurman's side.
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Absolutely agree with you both boxers have good track records but Keith Thurman has almost 3 years down. Many bettors do not take that into account and no one can be completely sure that he will have the same form as three years ago. So it's hard to predict the winner of this fight.

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December 26, 2021, 04:10:26 PM
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So after Barrios gets KO by Tank Davis, he decided to go up to the welterweight where in there's a lot of big puncher? The only reason I can think of is that he really is too big for 140 lbs and there's no way he can make that weight in his next fight.

For Thurman, it's been a long layoff away from boxing, but yes, probably this is a cherry pick fight for his comeback. Because admit it or not, Barrios can't take his punches so Thurman has all the advantages in this fight.

After the fight between Pacquiao and Thurman, I gained nothing but respect to the latter. He definitely handled the loss professionally- and his comments about the entire fight were really respectable on his part. After checking now the past records of Barrios, you are definitely right on your analysis.

As much as that I really prefer betting on the underdog on boxing, my bet would definitely lean towards Thurman due to his destructive power and hunger for a comeback. I really doubt that Barrios would be able to snatch the victory here but who knows!

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December 26, 2021, 09:48:19 PM
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So after Barrios gets KO by Tank Davis, he decided to go up to the welterweight where in there's a lot of big puncher? The only reason I can think of is that he really is too big for 140 lbs and there's no way he can make that weight in his next fight.

For Thurman, it's been a long layoff away from boxing, but yes, probably this is a cherry pick fight for his comeback. Because admit it or not, Barrios can't take his punches so Thurman has all the advantages in this fight.

After the fight between Pacquiao and Thurman, I gained nothing but respect to the latter. He definitely handled the loss professionally- and his comments about the entire fight were really respectable on his part. After checking now the past records of Barrios, you are definitely right on your analysis.

As much as that I really prefer betting on the underdog on boxing, my bet would definitely lean towards Thurman due to his destructive power and hunger for a comeback. I really doubt that Barrios would be able to snatch the victory here but who knows!

we can understand if this is a cherry pick fight for Thurman. with the relatively long rest in the boxing ring, he maybe wants to assure himself how he will perform again inside the ring. we will see if he has still the power just like before.
and yes, i do agree with thurman's attitude after his loss from pacquiao. he handled it well and he didn't throw any trash talks. i even saw a YT clip before Pacquiao's supposedly fight with Spence Jr, Thurman asked Pacquiao if he owned a dog named Thurman - YT link , this is nice to watch though. you can see the respect in both boxers.

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December 26, 2021, 09:49:15 PM
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So after Barrios gets KO by Tank Davis, he decided to go up to the welterweight where in there's a lot of big puncher? The only reason I can think of is that he really is too big for 140 lbs and there's no way he can make that weight in his next fight.

For Thurman, it's been a long layoff away from boxing, but yes, probably this is a cherry pick fight for his comeback. Because admit it or not, Barrios can't take his punches so Thurman has all the advantages in this fight.

After the fight between Pacquiao and Thurman, I gained nothing but respect to the latter. He definitely handled the loss professionally- and his comments about the entire fight were really respectable on his part. After checking now the past records of Barrios, you are definitely right on your analysis.

As much as that I really prefer betting on the underdog on boxing, my bet would definitely lean towards Thurman due to his destructive power and hunger for a comeback. I really doubt that Barrios would be able to snatch the victory here but who knows!

That's the right decision, I still consider Thurman as a great fighter because Manny did not really dominate him in the fight, it was a split decision and Thurman came out strong in the 2nd half of the fight but the judges give Pacquiao the win. He loses against a legend but I don't think he will lose against Barrios who is nowhere near Manny in terms of skills and achievement.

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So after Barrios gets KO by Tank Davis, he decided to go up to the welterweight where in there's a lot of big puncher? The only reason I can think of is that he really is too big for 140 lbs and there's no way he can make that weight in his next fight.

For Thurman, it's been a long layoff away from boxing, but yes, probably this is a cherry pick fight for his comeback. Because admit it or not, Barrios can't take his punches so Thurman has all the advantages in this fight.

After the fight between Pacquiao and Thurman, I gained nothing but respect to the latter. He definitely handled the loss professionally- and his comments about the entire fight were really respectable on his part. After checking now the past records of Barrios, you are definitely right on your analysis.

As much as that I really prefer betting on the underdog on boxing, my bet would definitely lean towards Thurman due to his destructive power and hunger for a comeback. I really doubt that Barrios would be able to snatch the victory here but who knows!

That's the right decision, I still consider Thurman as a great fighter because Manny did not really dominate him in the fight, it was a split decision and Thurman came out strong in the 2nd half of the fight but the judges give Pacquiao the win. He loses against a legend but I don't think he will lose against Barrios who is nowhere near Manny in terms of skills and achievement.
When it comes to performance then I could say that Thurman is much better when it comes to technicality and in stamina and its true that he almost beat up Manny Pacquiao if he had able to

to make more points then he might able to beat it up but we know that anything in the past or trying out to compared Pacquiao vs Barrios in case then making out those comparisons
basing up on personal assumptions wouldn't be a solid thing for you to rely in terms of your betting choices.

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December 26, 2021, 10:27:17 PM
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But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers.

I disagree with you. That weight capability should be one of the factors we need to include in our analysis of a certain match. There are already lots of events before that a boxer got a problem in an actual fight because they are not used on that catchweight limit.

Not an assurance that the mentioned factor is helpful but it can give us a preview of how the fight will look like.
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But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers.

I disagree with you. That weight capability should be one of the factors we need to include in our analysis of a certain match. There are already lots of events before that a boxer got a problem in an actual fight because they are not used on that catchweight limit.

Not an assurance that the mentioned factor is helpful but it can give us a preview of how the fight will look like.

Of course, that is whey we have weight classes here, because it aids us in analysing the fight. As Barrios is not used to this weight, while Thurman has been campaigning at welterweight since the beginning of his career. Unless Barrios are like the greats, Pacman and Canelo Alvarez who goes up in weight and defeated their opponents. There's nothing extraordinary with him, in fact we all know that Davis has knock him out already. And so fighting a bigger guy in Thurman might be a problem for Barrios.
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December 27, 2021, 10:43:16 AM
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Thurman looks like an experienced fighter and barrios seem young . Thurman maybe be tough to Barrios due to age different and experience in fighting. I feel thurman may defeat barrios, let see how it goes.
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December 27, 2021, 11:08:10 AM
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Thurman looks like an experienced fighter and barrios seem young . Thurman maybe be tough to Barrios due to age different and experience in fighting. I feel thurman may defeat barrios, let see how it goes.
Yep the things why Thurman is experienced boxer because he was fought with several good boxer (e.g. Pacquiao, Garcia, Porter, etc) unlike Barrios he only fought with one good boxer (e.g. Davis).  The ages difference only 7 years, I don't think it's will have a big impact for the fight... the weight is more important because different weight will have different strength.

Barrios was KOed by Davis in previous fight, it's a high chance he will lose with same conditions too.

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That's right, betting has to be taken seriously because we are risking money, there are fights that we choose to watch only but would not put our bet because we are not confident with our prediction or we just don't see the value for us to win. For me, this is a big fight and I will never miss watching this and I'm surely gonna put my bet. As I am impressed with Thurman's performance against pacquioa although he lose, so I would put my bet on him to win this fight.

And as a bettor, it is our responsibility to carefully assess the fighter that we will be going to put our bets on because we are totally taking the risk of putting our money in the hand of a fighter if he wins then you will also gonna win. With regards to the upcoming fight of Thurman vs. Barrios, referring to their fight record and base on their fight experiences I believe that both are capable to put each other into a knock-out win. Both are also has a single loss, this will be a challenging fight for the two fighters but at this time I will going to favor on Thurman's side.


I guess the majority of us here would go for Thurman to win this fight. For me, if Thurman was not inactive after his fight with Pacquiao, he would definitely not gonna go down hard in ranking, so this is his chance to come back and be a good challenger to the champions. So without a doubt, no changing of mind, I'm with Thurman 100% to win.

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That's right, betting has to be taken seriously because we are risking money, there are fights that we choose to watch only but would not put our bet because we are not confident with our prediction or we just don't see the value for us to win. For me, this is a big fight and I will never miss watching this and I'm surely gonna put my bet. As I am impressed with Thurman's performance against pacquioa although he lose, so I would put my bet on him to win this fight.

And as a bettor, it is our responsibility to carefully assess the fighter that we will be going to put our bets on because we are totally taking the risk of putting our money in the hand of a fighter if he wins then you will also gonna win. With regards to the upcoming fight of Thurman vs. Barrios, referring to their fight record and base on their fight experiences I believe that both are capable to put each other into a knock-out win. Both are also has a single loss, this will be a challenging fight for the two fighters but at this time I will going to favor on Thurman's side.


I guess the majority of us here would go for Thurman to win this fight. For me, if Thurman was not inactive after his fight with Pacquiao, he would definitely not gonna go down hard in ranking, so this is his chance to come back and be a good challenger to the champions. So without a doubt, no changing of mind, I'm with Thurman 100% to win.

Yes mate, as I have said in the beginning of the thread, Thurman even if inactive for more than two years, still is being rank very high even in the top 3 or top 4 in the rankings.

And so when he decided to fight again, he will be the heavy favoured against an inexperience Barrios at this weight category. So yes, based on the comments, no doubt that Thurman is most likely to win the fight with a knock out.

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December 27, 2021, 12:15:47 PM
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That's right, betting has to be taken seriously because we are risking money, there are fights that we choose to watch only but would not put our bet because we are not confident with our prediction or we just don't see the value for us to win. For me, this is a big fight and I will never miss watching this and I'm surely gonna put my bet. As I am impressed with Thurman's performance against pacquioa although he lose, so I would put my bet on him to win this fight.

And as a bettor, it is our responsibility to carefully assess the fighter that we will be going to put our bets on because we are totally taking the risk of putting our money in the hand of a fighter if he wins then you will also gonna win. With regards to the upcoming fight of Thurman vs. Barrios, referring to their fight record and base on their fight experiences I believe that both are capable to put each other into a knock-out win. Both are also has a single loss, this will be a challenging fight for the two fighters but at this time I will going to favor on Thurman's side.


I guess the majority of us here would go for Thurman to win this fight. For me, if Thurman was not inactive after his fight with Pacquiao, he would definitely not gonna go down hard in ranking, so this is his chance to come back and be a good challenger to the champions. So without a doubt, no changing of mind, I'm with Thurman 100% to win.

Yes mate, as I have said in the beginning of the thread, Thurman even if inactive for more than two years, still is being rank very high even in the top 3 or top 4 in the rankings.

And so when he decided to fight again, he will be the heavy favoured against an inexperience Barrios at this weight category. So yes, based on the comments, no doubt that Thurman is most likely to win the fight with a knock out.

I am also leaning on Thurman to win by KO here, Pacquiao himself admitted during the post-fight interview that Thurman is a heavy puncher, and he was really hurt during the fight, so most likely, if Barrios is not as fast as Pacquiao, he might easily get caught by the power punches of Thurman and this fight will not last longer.

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Barrios was exposed against his fight against Tank and Thurman just run out of gas in his fight against Pacquiao, so between the two Thurman is the better fighter, Thurman is still dangerous and still at the height of his career, he fought some of the best welterweights before he loses to Pacquiao, Thurman will be the heavy favorite in this fight, but Barrios can deliver an upset he has a good record, whoever wins here will be in track for another title crack.

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Of course, that is whey we have weight classes here, because it aids us in analysing the fight. As Barrios is not used to this weight, while Thurman has been campaigning at welterweight since the beginning of his career. Unless Barrios are like the greats, Pacman and Canelo Alvarez who goes up in weight and defeated their opponents. There's nothing extraordinary with him, in fact we all know that Davis has knock him out already. And so fighting a bigger guy in Thurman might be a problem for Barrios.

As far as I know Mario Barrios changes his weight class on the advice of his coach. I don't think he wants to ruin his boxing career with this decision. And we don't see what's going on behind the scenes. It is quite possible that while he was out of the ring his training was more intense to feel good in the welterweight division.

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Of course, that is whey we have weight classes here, because it aids us in analysing the fight. As Barrios is not used to this weight, while Thurman has been campaigning at welterweight since the beginning of his career. Unless Barrios are like the greats, Pacman and Canelo Alvarez who goes up in weight and defeated their opponents. There's nothing extraordinary with him, in fact we all know that Davis has knock him out already. And so fighting a bigger guy in Thurman might be a problem for Barrios.

As far as I know Mario Barrios changes his weight class on the advice of his coach. I don't think he wants to ruin his boxing career with this decision. And we don't see what's going on behind the scenes. It is quite possible that while he was out of the ring his training was more intense to feel good in the welterweight division.

Both fighters want to win the fight, so may the best man wins in the fight night. As for me and some of the boxing fans, we choose to side with Thurman because he is the more popular boxer and he was also a champion before Pacman strip his belt. Now, he is coming back and trying to prove something which I think the right decision to make by a previous boxing champion.

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December 27, 2021, 02:51:18 PM
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Of course, that is whey we have weight classes here, because it aids us in analysing the fight. As Barrios is not used to this weight, while Thurman has been campaigning at welterweight since the beginning of his career. Unless Barrios are like the greats, Pacman and Canelo Alvarez who goes up in weight and defeated their opponents. There's nothing extraordinary with him, in fact we all know that Davis has knock him out already. And so fighting a bigger guy in Thurman might be a problem for Barrios.

As far as I know Mario Barrios changes his weight class on the advice of his coach. I don't think he wants to ruin his boxing career with this decision. And we don't see what's going on behind the scenes. It is quite possible that while he was out of the ring his training was more intense to feel good in the welterweight division.
This is a big challenge for Barrios and maybe he just really want to move forward and try a higher weight class and make his name on that level, that is possible as long as he hits the right weight, though it may not be easy but at least he has a chance to win especially Thurman is also came from a big loss and long lay off. This is a good math up, both are eager to win, we may not know what's happening behind the scene but at least we have the idea on their future match up.
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December 27, 2021, 03:18:37 PM
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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Each of us has our own views on this or that fight and boxers. This is quite normal. Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers. I probably won't bet on this fight myself, but I will definitely watch it. There is still enough time to change my mind though.

Well I'm been betting on boxing matches for years now, and one thing I've look in the boxers past fights and the weight his in. So obviously, Barrios here is coming from a lost (and so is Thurman), but in this fight, he might not be comfortable going up in weight in 147 lbs. So he is really at a disadvantage here and that's why I said the chances for him are slim to upset a fighter like Thurman in a division that he is more familiar with.

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Of course, that is whey we have weight classes here, because it aids us in analysing the fight. As Barrios is not used to this weight, while Thurman has been campaigning at welterweight since the beginning of his career. Unless Barrios are like the greats, Pacman and Canelo Alvarez who goes up in weight and defeated their opponents. There's nothing extraordinary with him, in fact we all know that Davis has knock him out already. And so fighting a bigger guy in Thurman might be a problem for Barrios.

As far as I know Mario Barrios changes his weight class on the advice of his coach. I don't think he wants to ruin his boxing career with this decision. And we don't see what's going on behind the scenes. It is quite possible that while he was out of the ring his training was more intense to feel good in the welterweight division.
This is a big challenge for Barrios and maybe he just really want to move forward and try a higher weight class and make his name on that level, that is possible as long as he hits the right weight, though it may not be easy but at least he has a chance to win especially Thurman is also came from a big loss and long lay off. This is a good math up, both are eager to win, we may not know what's happening behind the scene but at least we have the idea on their future match up.
Definitely, but he is biting more than he can chew here, I mean why he chooses a former champion to be his first fight in this division? Maybe he thinks that Thurman, being away and coming from a loss will be an advantage for him? But I doubt it though, Thurman has face a lot of great boxers in this division and so far only Pacquiao beat him.

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December 27, 2021, 06:04:09 PM
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I believe that Mario Barrios has a good chance to win this fight since Keith Thurman has not been in the ring for over two and a half years. That time might have taken its toll on his physical condition. Mario Barrios also has a height and arm length advantage, which might help him. It will be interesting to see this fight.

But the thing is that Barrios is the one going up in weight and we don't know if he can handle a full 147 lbs boxers. He was knockout by a midget (Tank Davis) at 140 lbs. What more of a legitimate welterweight with powers in both hands? So I doubt that he can pull an upset just because Thurman has not been in the ring for two years.

Each of us has our own views on this or that fight and boxers. This is quite normal. Also, this is my assumption and I do not advise to use this information when making decisions when betting on one of the boxers. I probably won't bet on this fight myself, but I will definitely watch it. There is still enough time to change my mind though.

Well I'm been betting on boxing matches for years now, and one thing I've look in the boxers past fights and the weight his in. So obviously, Barrios here is coming from a lost (and so is Thurman), but in this fight, he might not be comfortable going up in weight in 147 lbs. So he is really at a disadvantage here and that's why I said the chances for him are slim to upset a fighter like Thurman in a division that he is more familiar with.

Some sports analysts believe that after such a long break it is hard to return to the ring in the same form as Keith Thurman had before the three-year break. That's why I think the odds are even. May the best man win, but I'd like to see Mario Barrios win. I like the fact that he took this fight so well and that deserves a lot of credit.

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Definitely, but he is biting more than he can chew here, I mean why he chooses a former champion to be his first fight in this division? Maybe he thinks that Thurman, being away and coming from a loss will be an advantage for him? But I doubt it though, Thurman has face a lot of great boxers in this division and so far only Pacquiao beat him.

His first fight would be very intense, Thurman is not an easy opponent from this division knowing that he is also a champ back then is already a good challenged from Barrios camp, aside from being beaten by legendary Pacman and away from the ring he's still young and very capable of knocking Barrios down.

On the side of Barrios, if ever he crosses this new path with a win, it's a good green signal for him to proceed and aim for more big fight.

Both of them have a good reason for winning this fight. One is to regain name and the other one is to start making his name from this division.

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December 27, 2021, 09:36:25 PM
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Definitely, but he is biting more than he can chew here, I mean why he chooses a former champion to be his first fight in this division? Maybe he thinks that Thurman, being away and coming from a loss will be an advantage for him? But I doubt it though, Thurman has face a lot of great boxers in this division and so far only Pacquiao beat him.

His first fight would be very intense, Thurman is not an easy opponent from this division knowing that he is also a champ back then is already a good challenged from Barrios camp, aside from being beaten by legendary Pacman and away from the ring he's still young and very capable of knocking Barrios down.

On the side of Barrios, if ever he crosses this new path with a win, it's a good green signal for him to proceed and aim for more big fight.

Both of them have a good reason for winning this fight. One is to regain name and the other one is to start making his name from this division.

Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

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December 27, 2021, 10:01:41 PM
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Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

he have that kind of advantage Thurman is more likely familiar with this division even he's been away for a while, he already fought big names and champion from this weight, while Barrios still new and trying to make his run from this new weight, though with trainings and scouting the chance for Barrios still possible.

This sport already have many upset and we can't really conclude until the fight was declared and a name has been announces as winner.

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December 27, 2021, 10:26:22 PM
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Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

And the benefit of losing against Manny Pacquiao, these boxers now learn to become more serious and humble the next time they fight on the ring. Aside from that, there will be lots of strategies to be made now just in case there will be a time they will face again a boxer that is almost close to the strength of Manny.

Thurman might be rusty for others but boxers as boxers. It's not that he take a break for 5 years therefore once he returns to ring, the strength is still there. He's surely doing this usual exercise routine even on hiatus and since he now has a scheduled fight, the training will be more intense from now.
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Exactly, but I'm trusting Thurman here, he know the drill as he is in his division for a while, losing to Pacman does not make him a bad fighter, in fact, he got a lot of recognition for being a sport as he accepted his defeat and it was a very close fight. Thurman now is a stronger fighter as he is not anymore an undefeated fighter, he does not have to protect his record but all he can do is to win and aim for a chance to fight against Spence or Crawford, or Ugas.

he have that kind of advantage Thurman is more likely familiar with this division even he's been away for a while, he already fought big names and champion from this weight, while Barrios still new and trying to make his run from this new weight, though with trainings and scouting the chance for Barrios still possible.

This sport already have many upset and we can't really conclude until the fight was declared and a name has been announces as winner.
As long the fight isnt still concluded then there would be still lots of things that could happen and yes there are lots of situations on where upsets do really happen and i could still see some glimpse or chance on where Barrios could possibly pull it off but it wouldnt really be simple as it sounds.Yes, its true that Thurman does have that experience yet fighting out big names like Pacquiao and others does prove out that even he's
away but doesnt mean that he would just simply forget those. Experience does count but everything could still happen until that final bell rings.

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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

It could be, but I'm thinking otherwise, sure Thurman might be out and did had a long break in boxing. But for sure he has kept himself in good shape despite not having a professional fight in 2 years. And so can still see that he is still fit despite that long layoffs. So maybe it will have an effect on him but it won't be a deterrent for win to win against Barrios. He is trying this weight for the first time and this is only might be a problem for him.

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December 28, 2021, 08:22:44 PM
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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

Maybe yes or maybe no, you gave your point and we do have our own opinion about this fight. There's no certain and there's no one who can
Dictate unless there is someone behind this fight who will manipulate, not saying it's possible what who knows? Just bet on who you believe will win and will bring you the money.

Good luck if you will place your bet on barrios. Enjoy the watching while waiting for the outcome. Tongue Roll Eyes

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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

Probably that is going to be the set up. Thurman coming off from a long layoff will have this fight as a heater for him on getting laced up to the ring again. Now, Thurman might have all the advantage for this match, but Barrios is younger and hungry for more victories, so I guess it's not something to underestimate with.
Let's see what the odds will tell us on how huge the gap for this fight. I might agree that this could be a cherry picked for Thurman.

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December 28, 2021, 10:23:12 PM
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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

Probably that is going to be the set up. Thurman coming off from a long layoff will have this fight as a heater for him on getting laced up to the ring again. Now, Thurman might have all the advantage for this match, but Barrios is younger and hungry for more victories, so I guess it's not something to underestimate with.
Let's see what the odds will tell us on how huge the gap for this fight. I might agree that this could be a cherry picked for Thurman.
Heater you do say?

You are right on this one but Barrios shouldnt really be underestimated and as mentioned or said that this guy is hungry for victory or simply we could say that this one is on its peak as of this moment.
Even though experience might be inferior compared to Thurman but theres still some chance.

For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

This would be an interesting fight for Thurman. But high likely that the odds will favor on him here. If he wins this, he may go after with the other champions and test once more his strength and power. This is like a warm up for him for the succeeding fights that he will have. With the last fight of him from Pacquiao, I believe, he already learned something from that loss. If he will continue to be a humble boxer, he will gain more followers.
But if he will finally decide to hang his gloves, being a boxing commentator is a very good job for him.
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December 29, 2021, 12:47:44 AM
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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

I'm not really looking at age gaps difference as a factor in any fights, being advantage or disadvantage. Well, depends on who's the boxer involved.

At some point, Thurman might not literally end up not underdoing training for 2 years, maybe not just regular as before. And besides, with his 31 wins with an 80% KnockOut rate, his experience will surely automatically turn back his usual shape once he fights in the ring. He is now decided to come back and that will fuel his usual performance or even better.

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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

This would be an interesting fight for Thurman. But high likely that the odds will favor on him here. If he wins this, he may go after with the other champions and test once more his strength and power. This is like a warm up for him for the succeeding fights that he will have. With the last fight of him from Pacquiao, I believe, he already learned something from that loss. If he will continue to be a humble boxer, he will gain more followers.
But if he will finally decide to hang his gloves, being a boxing commentator is a very good job for him.

If you listen from his interviews after his fight he seems to learn his mistakes from the Pacquiao fight. And for sure it has put a dent on him because he step out of the game for so long. And maybe now he is over with it that's why he is making a comeback and seems to be rejuvenated already. Yes, he will be the odds favourite, no way that Barrios losing to Davis will make him the favourite. Thurman might go for a knock out too if presented.

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It's Mario Barrios, not Danilo Barrios. You must have confused the boxer Mario Barrios with the local actor and dancer Danilo. LOL. Grin

Anyway, although it is possible that Thurman could score a knockout in this fight, Mario shouldn't be fazed with Thurman. Mario had just experienced his first loss, and a TKO at that, but he shouldn't allow it to get the better of him, emotionally and psychologically especially. It will only make him lose. Thurman is probably not going to be the Thurman before. He hadn't had a fight for almost 3 years.

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It's Mario Barrios, not Danilo Barrios. You must have confused the boxer Mario Barrios with the local actor and dancer Danilo. LOL. Grin
Haha, who said that mate.

He is Danilo Barriors for those who doesn't know.

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Anyway, although it is possible that Thurman could score a knockout in this fight, Mario shouldn't be fazed with Thurman. Mario had just experienced his first loss, and a TKO at that, but he shouldn't allow it to get the better of him, emotionally and psychologically especially. It will only make him lose. Thurman is probably not going to be the Thurman before. He hadn't had a fight for almost 3 years.
Thurman is wiser now, I'm pretty sure he learned a lot from his fight against Pacman, and though he was inactive, I still think that he is a dangerous fighter and able to maintain his routine in boxing.

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December 29, 2021, 04:34:45 PM
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It's Mario Barrios, not Danilo Barrios. You must have confused the boxer Mario Barrios with the local actor and dancer Danilo. LOL. Grin
Haha, who said that mate.

That's what's written in the OP. I was a little confused at first who Danilo Barrios is. The name sounds familiar but he must be a different person, surely not the boxer who is scheduled to face Thurman. And then I suddenly remembered there was somebody who was named Danilo Barrios in the local entertainment industry. LOL!

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Anyway, although it is possible that Thurman could score a knockout in this fight, Mario shouldn't be fazed with Thurman. Mario had just experienced his first loss, and a TKO at that, but he shouldn't allow it to get the better of him, emotionally and psychologically especially. It will only make him lose. Thurman is probably not going to be the Thurman before. He hadn't had a fight for almost 3 years.
Thurman is wiser now, I'm pretty sure he learned a lot from his fight against Pacman, and though he was inactive, I still think that he is a dangerous fighter and able to maintain his routine in boxing.

Every boxer is a tad wiser after every fight. But that losing fight with Manny Pacquiao won't make Thurman win in his next fights.

It's one thing to remain physically active and in shape and another to be conditioning in an upcoming match. The last time Thurman fought was in mid-2019. After that, he never had any proper conditioning for a boxing match. Whether he stayed fit in between his last fight and the preparations in his 2022 fight, we do not know. What we're sure of is that he never underwent tedious trainings in those months.

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Keith Thurman is 33 years old.  For a professional boxer, this is the prime of life.  At 33, a person has powerful muscles.  He is as mobile and strong as possible.  

Mario Barris is 26 years old.  He is also strong and agile, but lacks professional experience.  

At the same time, Thurman had a long break in boxing (since 2019).  This is very bad.  After two years, you can lose your qualifications.  Now he needs to train hard.  And then there is a psychological attitude.  It is very difficult to prepare for a serious fight without regular battles.  

I think Mario Barris will win.  I wish him victory!

I'm not really looking at age gaps difference as a factor in any fights, being advantage or disadvantage. Well, depends on who's the boxer involved.

At some point, Thurman might not literally end up not underdoing training for 2 years, maybe not just regular as before. And besides, with his 31 wins with an 80% KnockOut rate, his experience will surely automatically turn back his usual shape once he fights in the ring. He is now decided to come back and that will fuel his usual performance or even better.

“Get ready because I’m putting in the work to put on a show against Mario Barrios on February 5 on pay-per-view. It’s begun, and my time is now.”"

of Thurman's 30 month long break playing boxing. this will be a matter of self-improvement in boxing fights, I imagine thurman will try hard in his action later against Mario Barrios, thurman will appear full in his next match against Mario Barrios even though not necessarily win. Both Thurman and Barrios wanted their boxing careers to last in their hobby. of all, the careers of the two of them dimmed in boxing matches after some time..?

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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

This would be an interesting fight for Thurman. But high likely that the odds will favor on him here. If he wins this, he may go after with the other champions and test once more his strength and power. This is like a warm up for him for the succeeding fights that he will have. With the last fight of him from Pacquiao, I believe, he already learned something from that loss. If he will continue to be a humble boxer, he will gain more followers.
But if he will finally decide to hang his gloves, being a boxing commentator is a very good job for him.

If you listen from his interviews after his fight he seems to learn his mistakes from the Pacquiao fight. And for sure it has put a dent on him because he step out of the game for so long. And maybe now he is over with it that's why he is making a comeback and seems to be rejuvenated already. Yes, he will be the odds favourite, no way that Barrios losing to Davis will make him the favourite. Thurman might go for a knock out too if presented.
Everyone do really learnt up from mistakes and i had remember on how trashtalker Thurman been beaten up by Pacquiao and ends up on that way on which he shouldnt really be having that kind of behavior.

You  wouldnt know that your opponent is much more better than you.Even this guy is been a while  havent some fights but getting back into shape wont really be that hard.
They could easily make their body go back as it used to be but this upcoming fight against Barrios wont be an easy one.

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Everyone do really learnt up from mistakes and i had remember on how trashtalker Thurman been beaten up by Pacquiao and ends up on that way on which he shouldnt really be having that kind of behavior.

You  wouldnt know that your opponent is much more better than you.Even this guy is been a while  havent some fights but getting back into shape wont really be that hard.
They could easily make their body go back as it used to be but this upcoming fight against Barrios wont be an easy one.

Trainings will help them to condition their body. It's not hard anymore. Their body already has it and just need of warm it up.
trash talks are normal, either it's a strategy from the both camps or it's a promotional strategy to attract viewers' attentions, but
from it all, everything will be settled inside the ring.

Thurman is coming back. If he wants to hype his name, he needed to showcase his skills again and try to KO Barrios.

Same with Barrios. If he can push knocking, Thurman is the best thing to create big noise for his name inside this new division.

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December 29, 2021, 09:37:27 PM
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https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/news/keith-thurman-mario-barrios-collide-feb-5-blockbuster

So we are now going to see the come backing Keith "One Time" Thurman against Danilo Barrios on Feb 5. Both of them coming from a lost, Thurman to Pacquiao and Barrios to Tank Davis.

I think this is a cherry pick fight for Thurman though, it's a long layoff and he could experience a ring rust. But Barrios is coming up in weight in the 147 lbs and it will not be an easy move up. I'm seeing Thurman maybe scoring a knock out win in the later rounds maybe 11 or less.

Like all the majority here I'm picking Thurman to win the fight he is the more powerful and he has fought a lot of great fighters in the past, compared to Barrios who folded when he faced an elite fighter like Barrios, this is a very important fight for both fighters they cannot afford to lose two in a row, but it's good that Thurman is back in the ring after a long lay off when there's so much action in the category he's in, I won't rule out an upset here because Barrios is also capable of pulling one

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https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/news/keith-thurman-mario-barrios-collide-feb-5-blockbuster

So we are now going to see the come backing Keith "One Time" Thurman against Danilo Barrios on Feb 5. Both of them coming from a lost, Thurman to Pacquiao and Barrios to Tank Davis.

I think this is a cherry pick fight for Thurman though, it's a long layoff and he could experience a ring rust. But Barrios is coming up in weight in the 147 lbs and it will not be an easy move up. I'm seeing Thurman maybe scoring a knock out win in the later rounds maybe 11 or less.

Like all the majority here I'm picking Thurman to win the fight he is the more powerful and he has fought a lot of great fighters in the past, compared to Barrios who folded when he faced an elite fighter like Barrios, this is a very important fight for both fighters they cannot afford to lose two in a row, but it's good that Thurman is back in the ring after a long lay off when there's so much action in the category he's in, I won't rule out an upset here because Barrios is also capable of pulling one

Exactly, Thurman fought great boxers and beat them, except for Pacman, but he almost beat Pacman because the fight ended in a split decision where if he had worked harder in the early rounds, he might have won the fight. But that's over, it's already part of the history and his one loss is not something to be ashamed of since it's against the legend and he did gave a great fight.

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December 30, 2021, 03:31:52 AM
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Everyone do really learnt up from mistakes and i had remember on how trashtalker Thurman been beaten up by Pacquiao and ends up on that way on which he shouldnt really be having that kind of behavior.

You  wouldnt know that your opponent is much more better than you.Even this guy is been a while  havent some fights but getting back into shape wont really be that hard.
They could easily make their body go back as it used to be but this upcoming fight against Barrios wont be an easy one.

Trainings will help them to condition their body. It's not hard anymore. Their body already has it and just need of warm it up.
trash talks are normal, either it's a strategy from the both camps or it's a promotional strategy to attract viewers' attentions, but
from it all, everything will be settled inside the ring.

Thurman is coming back. If he wants to hype his name, he needed to showcase his skills again and try to KO Barrios.

Same with Barrios. If he can push knocking, Thurman is the best thing to create big noise for his name inside this new division.

He will definitely go for a knock out here for sure, this is a comeback fight for him and wanted to impressed everyone and interviews of him saying he wanted to go after the big names like Crawford, Spence and Ugas after this fight.

So definitely, Thurman is thinking that this is a step up fight for him to proclaim that he is really back in the welterweight division and will reclaim his old glory to be one of the champions again.

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For sure Odds wont really be in huge gap for sure and lets see on how this one be tallied up.

I hope so, I like it that way so I can take Thurman with some good odds. I'm not underestimating the young boxer but I just believe that Thurman is more experience, smarter and even if he is not active but I'm pretty sure he does things to maintain his body to be ready anytime in a fight like this.

This would be an interesting fight for Thurman. But high likely that the odds will favor on him here. If he wins this, he may go after with the other champions and test once more his strength and power. This is like a warm up for him for the succeeding fights that he will have. With the last fight of him from Pacquiao, I believe, he already learned something from that loss. If he will continue to be a humble boxer, he will gain more followers.
But if he will finally decide to hang his gloves, being a boxing commentator is a very good job for him.

If you listen from his interviews after his fight he seems to learn his mistakes from the Pacquiao fight. And for sure it has put a dent on him because he step out of the game for so long. And maybe now he is over with it that's why he is making a comeback and seems to be rejuvenated already. Yes, he will be the odds favourite, no way that Barrios losing to Davis will make him the favourite. Thurman might go for a knock out too if presented.
Everyone do really learnt up from mistakes and i had remember on how trashtalker Thurman been beaten up by Pacquiao and ends up on that way on which he shouldnt really be having that kind of behavior.

You  wouldnt know that your opponent is much more better than you.Even this guy is been a while  havent some fights but getting back into shape wont really be that hard.
They could easily make their body go back as it used to be but this upcoming fight against Barrios wont be an easy one.

I think the keyword for Thurman on that Manny fight is too much confidence on his side.

But later he found it out the hard way, indeed Manny has the power on that left hand and the angles that he throws will make you off balance and go down. So that's a hard lesson for Thurman and maybe in those two years that he is not fighting, he has been thinking about it and not make the same mistakes about Barrios and train as hard as he can and bring his body to shape again.

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December 30, 2021, 10:46:18 PM
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Everyone do really learnt up from mistakes and i had remember on how trashtalker Thurman been beaten up by Pacquiao and ends up on that way on which he shouldnt really be having that kind of behavior.

You  wouldnt know that your opponent is much more better than you.Even this guy is been a while  havent some fights but getting back into shape wont really be that hard.
They could easily make their body go back as it used to be but this upcoming fight against Barrios wont be an easy one.

Trainings will help them to condition their body. It's not hard anymore. Their body already has it and just need of warm it up.
trash talks are normal, either it's a strategy from the both camps or it's a promotional strategy to attract viewers' attentions, but
from it all, everything will be settled inside the ring.

Thurman is coming back. If he wants to hype his name, he needed to showcase his skills again and try to KO Barrios.

Same with Barrios. If he can push knocking, Thurman is the best thing to create big noise for his name inside this new division.
You are on point on this one which both fighters do have their intent on showcasing up a win for such benefit. One is showing off that he's back on the track and one could prove out and make his name a little bit more popular or a new step up into his career.

Everything would be settled inside the ring which is always been the deal and lets see if Thurman is really prepared and would be good if starting up the year with a win.

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Everything would be settled inside the ring which is always been the deal and lets see if Thurman is really prepared and would be good if starting up the year with a win.

Exactly, but I expect Thurman to win here because if he will not, I'm afraid his career will be similar to Broner which is slowly going down now. I remember also when Thurman got surgery, he was also inactive for a while but when he comes back, he still win, so his situation now is quite better and I have no doubt he will win if he trains hard.

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December 31, 2021, 10:18:06 AM
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Everything would be settled inside the ring which is always been the deal and lets see if Thurman is really prepared and would be good if starting up the year with a win.

Exactly, but I expect Thurman to win here because if he will not, I'm afraid his career will be similar to Broner which is slowly going down now. I remember also when Thurman got surgery, he was also inactive for a while but when he comes back, he still win, so his situation now is quite better and I have no doubt he will win if he trains hard.

Thurman is well rested, and it seems he is already willing to go back and bounce from the Pacman defeat. Broner is different case though, I mean he is really very arrogant and boastful to the next level and that's why when he lost to Maidana, all the hype is gone.

Thurman can still go back win this fight and then fight the winner of Ugas vs Spence or even go directly to Crawford if he can get him to fight him after this.

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December 31, 2021, 10:23:26 AM
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Everything would be settled inside the ring which is always been the deal and lets see if Thurman is really prepared and would be good if starting up the year with a win.

Exactly, but I expect Thurman to win here because if he will not, I'm afraid his career will be similar to Broner which is slowly going down now. I remember also when Thurman got surgery, he was also inactive for a while but when he comes back, he still win, so his situation now is quite better and I have no doubt he will win if he trains hard.

Thurman is well rested, and it seems he is already willing to go back and bounce from the Pacman defeat. Broner is different case though, I mean he is really very arrogant and boastful to the next level and that's why when he lost to Maidana, all the hype is gone.

Thurman can still go back win this fight and then fight the winner of Ugas vs Spence or even go directly to Crawford if he can get him to fight him after this.

Thurman only lose to Pacman, no one beats him aside from Pacman in the division he is campaigning, so I think despite the fact that he rested for years, he still got the skills and his power punch to punish his opponent, and his opponent now is a lower quality compared to the boxers he beat in the past.

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December 31, 2021, 02:03:01 PM
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Everything would be settled inside the ring which is always been the deal and lets see if Thurman is really prepared and would be good if starting up the year with a win.

Exactly, but I expect Thurman to win here because if he will not, I'm afraid his career will be similar to Broner which is slowly going down now. I remember also when Thurman got surgery, he was also inactive for a while but when he comes back, he still win, so his situation now is quite better and I have no doubt he will win if he trains hard.

Thurman is well rested, and it seems he is already willing to go back and bounce from the Pacman defeat. Broner is different case though, I mean he is really very arrogant and boastful to the next level and that's why when he lost to Maidana, all the hype is gone.

Thurman can still go back win this fight and then fight the winner of Ugas vs Spence or even go directly to Crawford if he can get him to fight him after this.

Thurman only lose to Pacman, no one beats him aside from Pacman in the division he is campaigning, so I think despite the fact that he rested for years, he still got the skills and his power punch to punish his opponent, and his opponent now is a lower quality compared to the boxers he beat in the past.

Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed, but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.

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December 31, 2021, 04:20:13 PM
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Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed, but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.

Well we are not sure that Thurman could dominate because even Pacquaio is already retired there are still a lot good boxing fighter that could probably will going to make a hard and difficult fight for him. However, in this scheduled game between Thurman and Barrios I do also expect Thurman will going to dominate the game and could possibly win either via knock out or unanimous decision. I don't think if betting odds were already out.
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December 31, 2021, 04:34:18 PM
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Everything would be settled inside the ring which is always been the deal and lets see if Thurman is really prepared and would be good if starting up the year with a win.

Exactly, but I expect Thurman to win here because if he will not, I'm afraid his career will be similar to Broner which is slowly going down now. I remember also when Thurman got surgery, he was also inactive for a while but when he comes back, he still win, so his situation now is quite better and I have no doubt he will win if he trains hard.

Thurman is well rested, and it seems he is already willing to go back and bounce from the Pacman defeat. Broner is different case though, I mean he is really very arrogant and boastful to the next level and that's why when he lost to Maidana, all the hype is gone.

Thurman can still go back win this fight and then fight the winner of Ugas vs Spence or even go directly to Crawford if he can get him to fight him after this.

Thurman only lose to Pacman, no one beats him aside from Pacman in the division he is campaigning, so I think despite the fact that he rested for years, he still got the skills and his power punch to punish his opponent, and his opponent now is a lower quality compared to the boxers he beat in the past.

Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed, but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.

Every boxer has that kind of goal, to dominate and to become an undisputed champion in a certain division. For Thurman, he was once a champion but got stripped by Pacman, so this fight is like the start of his journey again to win the championship and he has to win it as it's his ticket for the next big fight. I would always believe that Thurman is not done yet, he can still fight and will become a champion again.

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December 31, 2021, 04:34:31 PM
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Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed, but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.

Well we are not sure that Thurman could dominate because even Pacquaio is already retired there are still a lot good boxing fighter that could probably will going to make a hard and difficult fight for him. However, in this scheduled game between Thurman and Barrios I do also expect Thurman will going to dominate the game and could possibly win either via knock out or unanimous decision. I don't think if betting odds were already out.

Actually he was dominating this division for years before he gets that shoulder injury, rest and wait for it to heal, comes back and fight Josesito Lopez, very tough for him. And then the takes on Manny which is a wrong move back then because at the back of his mind he can defeat Manny, but we all know that is very wrong. And now that he wants to make a second comeback, for sure he has learned a lot from that mistakes. But this time it's very different, now we have Crawford and Spence and also Ugas as his main competition in a division once he was the top dog.
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December 31, 2021, 04:49:32 PM
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But this time it's very different, now we have Crawford and Spence and also Ugas as his main competition in a division once he was the top dog.

Let's wait and see if Thurman can pass Barrios. The sequence would be:

Thurman > Barrios
Thurman VS The winner of Spence vs Ugas
The winner between Spence/Ugas and Thurman VS Spence

Although at the end of the line, I think Spence vs Crawford will likely happen.

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December 31, 2021, 07:02:40 PM
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Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed, but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.

Well we are not sure that Thurman could dominate because even Pacquaio is already retired there are still a lot good boxing fighter that could probably will going to make a hard and difficult fight for him. However, in this scheduled game between Thurman and Barrios I do also expect Thurman will going to dominate the game and could possibly win either via knock out or unanimous decision. I don't think if betting odds were already out.

Actually he was dominating this division for years before he gets that shoulder injury, rest and wait for it to heal, comes back and fight Josesito Lopez, very tough for him. And then the takes on Manny which is a wrong move back then because at the back of his mind he can defeat Manny, but we all know that is very wrong. And now that he wants to make a second comeback, for sure he has learned a lot from that mistakes. But this time it's very different, now we have Crawford and Spence and also Ugas as his main competition in a division once he was the top dog.
Very rough roads for him. As those 3 mentioned names are very tough competing with, he can start with Barrios if he wins this fight with a KO. His name will be back from the list, and his camp may arrange big fights again. Step by step just need to keep winning each time he got a fight, let those title holders to fight with each other, challenged the loser to make a good way to attempt aiming for the belt, Thurman still young and if his body turned back and be conditioned again, he still have that shot to win another title. Wink Cool

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January 02, 2022, 03:53:21 PM
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Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed, but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.

Well we are not sure that Thurman could dominate because even Pacquaio is already retired there are still a lot good boxing fighter that could probably will going to make a hard and difficult fight for him. However, in this scheduled game between Thurman and Barrios I do also expect Thurman will going to dominate the game and could possibly win either via knock out or unanimous decision. I don't think if betting odds were already out.

Actually he was dominating this division for years before he gets that shoulder injury, rest and wait for it to heal, comes back and fight Josesito Lopez, very tough for him. And then the takes on Manny which is a wrong move back then because at the back of his mind he can defeat Manny, but we all know that is very wrong. And now that he wants to make a second comeback, for sure he has learned a lot from that mistakes. But this time it's very different, now we have Crawford and Spence and also Ugas as his main competition in a division once he was the top dog.
Very rough roads for him. As those 3 mentioned names are very tough competing with, he can start with Barrios if he wins this fight with a KO. His name will be back from the list, and his camp may arrange big fights again. Step by step just need to keep winning each time he got a fight, let those title holders to fight with each other, challenged the loser to make a good way to attempt aiming for the belt,

If he wins this fight, he will have a tougher fight for a chance to be a champion again. As rumored, Ugas vs Spence will have a unification fight so if he becomes the top challenger, he can fight either Spence or Crawford which I believe a very hard fight for him.

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Thurman still young and if his body turned back and be conditioned again, he still have that shot to win another title. Wink Cool
Not so young at all but true, he has a shot to win another title.

Which one is better for him, Thurman vs Spence or Thurman vs Crawford?

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Everything would be settled inside the ring which is always been the deal and lets see if Thurman is really prepared and would be good if starting up the year with a win.

Exactly, but I expect Thurman to win here because if he will not, I'm afraid his career will be similar to Broner which is slowly going down now. I remember also when Thurman got surgery, he was also inactive for a while but when he comes back, he still win, so his situation now is quite better and I have no doubt he will win if he trains hard.
He is the figure that grabs the most attention right now, I think, because this is a comeback that will definitely play a role in bringing back the boxing world.
The two boxers will definitely beat their enemies to death because they really don't want to lose again because if I'm not mistaken they lost to their opponents in the last match.
This will be interesting but I totally agree with you because I think Thurman will definitely be better now

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January 02, 2022, 07:57:43 PM
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Which one is better for him, Thurman vs Spence or Thurman vs Crawford?



If I'm going to pick, I'll go with Spence. Both are great but I'm more on blow by blow counter after counter when fighters are attacking, that's how Spence he loves pushing his opponents and trying to win with his stronger throws of punches, while Crawford is more on defense it might be a boring one once Thurman also play the same safe style...

Just own opinion and I know there are many boxing analysts who understand this sport well. Grin Roll Eyes

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The two boxers will definitely beat their enemies to death because they really don't want to lose again because if I'm not mistaken they lost to their opponents in the last match.
This will be interesting but I totally agree with you because I think Thurman will definitely be better now

I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.

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January 03, 2022, 08:37:47 AM
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Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed,
Well, Thurman isn't that aged at all unlike Pacman who's already in the retiring age. Whether he wins or loses against Pacman, he's still able to fight since he's still younger than him.

but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.
Yeah, it was a hell of a fight, and the marketing that Thurman made as noise really worked for that match of theirs. I wonder if he's going to do the same on this match that he's going to make some boastful statements which is really taking everyone's attention.

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The two boxers will definitely beat their enemies to death because they really don't want to lose again because if I'm not mistaken they lost to their opponents in the last match.
This will be interesting but I totally agree with you because I think Thurman will definitely be better now

I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.
they must destroy the doubts from within themselves at this time due to the defeat in the previous game.
besides practicing with more leverage will make them much stronger.
Honestly, I like these two boxers because they both have good vision at the moment.
now their match is just counting the days depending on how ready they are both in terms of training and mentally because now it is certain that the strong will win

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January 03, 2022, 11:15:18 AM
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Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed,
Well, Thurman isn't that aged at all unlike Pacman who's already in the retiring age. Whether he wins or loses against Pacman, he's still able to fight since he's still younger than him.


Thurman is in his 30's while Pacman is already in his 40's. Both are great boxers, the fight was very close and very entertaining as well, the fact that Thurman was able to give a good fight to Pacman, I believe he is at Pacman's level and not on the level of Barrios as he has not proven himself and has become a champion yet.

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The two boxers will definitely beat their enemies to death because they really don't want to lose again because if I'm not mistaken they lost to their opponents in the last match.
This will be interesting but I totally agree with you because I think Thurman will definitely be better now

I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.
they must destroy the doubts from within themselves at this time due to the defeat in the previous game.
besides practicing with more leverage will make them much stronger.
Honestly, I like these two boxers because they both have good vision at the moment.
now their match is just counting the days depending on how ready they are both in terms of training and mentally because now it is certain that the strong will win

Just for the record, both of them are coming from a big lost so not sure what do you mean by having a good vision?

Either way, only one of them would have to move in their career if they won this fight. And most likely as the boxing fans here favoured, it will be Thurman, although he lost to Manny Pacquiao, he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

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January 03, 2022, 11:29:08 AM
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The two boxers will definitely beat their enemies to death because they really don't want to lose again because if I'm not mistaken they lost to their opponents in the last match.
This will be interesting but I totally agree with you because I think Thurman will definitely be better now

I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.
they must destroy the doubts from within themselves at this time due to the defeat in the previous game.
besides practicing with more leverage will make them much stronger.
Honestly, I like these two boxers because they both have good vision at the moment.
now their match is just counting the days depending on how ready they are both in terms of training and mentally because now it is certain that the strong will win

Just for the record, both of them are coming from a big lost so not sure what do you mean by having a good vision?

Either way, only one of them would have to move in their career if they won this fight. And most likely as the boxing fans here favoured, it will be Thurman, although he lost to Manny Pacquiao, he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

He will, and he already rested well to recover and to start his journey again. The champions in the Welterweight have to consider Thurman as a big threat to them, he only loses once and that is against MP, so he is still a good fighter that could become a champion again.

Barrios? I'm not underestimating him but I don't see him having a chance to beat Thurman.

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January 03, 2022, 05:59:57 PM
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he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

The moment he decided to fight again, he already sealed that loss in history and now moving on.

It's not just about the loss against Manny Pacquiao why he became inactive for 29 months. Some reasons are; his injury, the pandemic, and the lack of a possible fight date at the end of 2021. He knows how to accept the defeat and won't cry like a baby for long before accepting his loss.

Keith Thurman is ready to become a major player in the welterweight division
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he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

The moment he decided to fight again, he already sealed that loss in history and now moving on.

It's not just about the loss against Manny Pacquiao why he became inactive for 29 months. Some reasons are; his injury, the pandemic, and the lack of a possible fight date at the end of 2021. He knows how to accept the defeat and won't cry like a baby for long before accepting his loss.

Keith Thurman is ready to become a major player in the welterweight division

This is what I admire about Thurman, just before that Pacquiao's fight, he was vowing that he will retire Pacquiao.
But it was the opposite that happened inside the ring. And after that, he accepted his loss and made good friends with Pac.

https://www.ringtv.com/564493-keith-thurman-vows-to-retire-manny-pacquiao-but-pacquiao-says-hes-far-from-done/

Now, it seems, he is ready for his comeback after long hiatus. Definitely, he will comeback in full strength here.
To prove that he has still the power in this division, he maybe planning to defeat one boxer after another and he will start with Barrios.
Hoping that he will have good training because of the covid restrictions. Well, everywhere now is starting to see the impact of this omicron variant.
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January 03, 2022, 07:02:45 PM
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he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

The moment he decided to fight again, he already sealed that loss in history and now moving on.

It's not just about the loss against Manny Pacquiao why he became inactive for 29 months. Some reasons are; his injury, the pandemic, and the lack of a possible fight date at the end of 2021. He knows how to accept the defeat and won't cry like a baby for long before accepting his loss.

Keith Thurman is ready to become a major player in the welterweight division

This is what I admire about Thurman, just before that Pacquiao's fight, he was vowing that he will retire Pacquiao.
But it was the opposite that happened inside the ring. And after that, he accepted his loss and made good friends with Pac.

https://www.ringtv.com/564493-keith-thurman-vows-to-retire-manny-pacquiao-but-pacquiao-says-hes-far-from-done/

Now, it seems, he is ready for his comeback after long hiatus. Definitely, he will comeback in full strength here.
To prove that he has still the power in this division, he maybe planning to defeat one boxer after another and he will start with Barrios.
Hoping that he will have good training because of the covid restrictions. Well, everywhere now is starting to see the impact of this omicron variant.

From what I read in both articles you have shared, it's a revamped Keith Thurman that we will be able to see.

Based also on the way he states his statement, he is on a mission to get back again at the spotlight where he is before.

As a former world titleholder, he already knows what things should be done to reach the Finish line. Not judging the result of the fight early but I don't see Barrios winning against Thurman.

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January 03, 2022, 08:51:44 PM
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The two boxers will definitely beat their enemies to death because they really don't want to lose again because if I'm not mistaken they lost to their opponents in the last match.
This will be interesting but I totally agree with you because I think Thurman will definitely be better now

I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.
they must destroy the doubts from within themselves at this time due to the defeat in the previous game.
besides practicing with more leverage will make them much stronger.
Honestly, I like these two boxers because they both have good vision at the moment.
now their match is just counting the days depending on how ready they are both in terms of training and mentally because now it is certain that the strong will win

Just for the record, both of them are coming from a big lost so not sure what do you mean by having a good vision?

Either way, only one of them would have to move in their career if they won this fight. And most likely as the boxing fans here favoured, it will be Thurman, although he lost to Manny Pacquiao, he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

He will, and he already rested well to recover and to start his journey again. The champions in the Welterweight have to consider Thurman as a big threat to them, he only loses once and that is against MP, so he is still a good fighter that could become a champion again.

Barrios? I'm not underestimating him but I don't see him having a chance to beat Thurman.
They would really see Thurman as a threat and if ever they do really make out some underestimation then they shouldnt because this guy is indeed capable and strong and its true or they should
mind that this guy only lost once on his entire career and if you do look up on technicalities on how this dude fights then you could really say that this isnt something that you
should really be confident off.He might not able to fight for a while but doesnt mean that his boxing becomes rubbish.

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he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

The moment he decided to fight again, he already sealed that loss in history and now moving on.

It's not just about the loss against Manny Pacquiao why he became inactive for 29 months. Some reasons are; his injury, the pandemic, and the lack of a possible fight date at the end of 2021. He knows how to accept the defeat and won't cry like a baby for long before accepting his loss.

Keith Thurman is ready to become a major player in the welterweight division

This is what I admire about Thurman, just before that Pacquiao's fight, he was vowing that he will retire Pacquiao.
But it was the opposite that happened inside the ring. And after that, he accepted his loss and made good friends with Pac.

https://www.ringtv.com/564493-keith-thurman-vows-to-retire-manny-pacquiao-but-pacquiao-says-hes-far-from-done/

Now, it seems, he is ready for his comeback after long hiatus. Definitely, he will comeback in full strength here.
To prove that he has still the power in this division, he maybe planning to defeat one boxer after another and he will start with Barrios.
Hoping that he will have good training because of the covid restrictions. Well, everywhere now is starting to see the impact of this omicron variant.

He was a good sport and we should understand that he trash-talking before the fight was just part of the business. Thurman accepted his loss and respected the Pacman after the fight, with that he also gain the respect of the fans, especially the Filipino fans all over the world.

I'm not sure if they are good friends but I heard in the news that Pacman name his dog Thurman, that's crazy.   Grin

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January 03, 2022, 09:58:48 PM
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he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

The moment he decided to fight again, he already sealed that loss in history and now moving on.

It's not just about the loss against Manny Pacquiao why he became inactive for 29 months. Some reasons are; his injury, the pandemic, and the lack of a possible fight date at the end of 2021. He knows how to accept the defeat and won't cry like a baby for long before accepting his loss.

Keith Thurman is ready to become a major player in the welterweight division

This is what I admire about Thurman, just before that Pacquiao's fight, he was vowing that he will retire Pacquiao.
But it was the opposite that happened inside the ring. And after that, he accepted his loss and made good friends with Pac.

https://www.ringtv.com/564493-keith-thurman-vows-to-retire-manny-pacquiao-but-pacquiao-says-hes-far-from-done/

Now, it seems, he is ready for his comeback after long hiatus. Definitely, he will comeback in full strength here.
To prove that he has still the power in this division, he maybe planning to defeat one boxer after another and he will start with Barrios.
Hoping that he will have good training because of the covid restrictions. Well, everywhere now is starting to see the impact of this omicron variant.

He was a good sport and we should understand that he trash-talking before the fight was just part of the business. Thurman accepted his loss and respected the Pacman after the fight, with that he also gain the respect of the fans, especially the Filipino fans all over the world.

I'm not sure if they are good friends but I heard in the news that Pacman name his dog Thurman, that's crazy.   Grin

This guy is admirable, at first we hate him because he was trash-talking out one and only living legend but later he vow to give credit to the champion. He is humble in real life but is good in selling his fight, and that was great fight between him and Manny so we deserve to see another fight from Thurman and this time arond I l know he will win.

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January 03, 2022, 10:25:22 PM
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Now that Pacman is already retired, Thurman is coming back to try to win and dominate, that has been his goal from the start, it's just that he took the risk of fighting Pacman and failed,
Well, Thurman isn't that aged at all unlike Pacman who's already in the retiring age. Whether he wins or loses against Pacman, he's still able to fight since he's still younger than him.
Age has its role to play in boxing and so is experience.
Thurman taking on Pacman was just a way of him testing out his capacity through Pacman and all the hype statements he made before he fought Pacman then was just to build his confidence against the legend. You may not understand this, at some point boxers are also afraid of their opponent but they always choose to say some hype words just to see their opponent as someone they can easily defeat.
Having said that, I believe Thurman has learned a lot of things after fighting with Pacman and I see him as the winner of this fight.

but despite that, people are still happy with this boxing journey so far and they still believe that Thurman is a championship caliber fighter.
Yeah, it was a hell of a fight, and the marketing that Thurman made as noise really worked for that match of theirs. I wonder if he's going to do the same on this match that he's going to make some boastful statements which is really taking everyone's attention.
@Kelvinid People like because he always went for people who are well experienced than him.
@blockman Thurman is a fight that likes to do a lot of talking but let's wait if he's going to do something but I don't think he will.

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I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.
they must destroy the doubts from within themselves at this time due to the defeat in the previous game.
besides practicing with more leverage will make them much stronger.
Honestly, I like these two boxers because they both have good vision at the moment.
now their match is just counting the days depending on how ready they are both in terms of training and mentally because now it is certain that the strong will win

Just for the record, both of them are coming from a big lost so not sure what do you mean by having a good vision?

Either way, only one of them would have to move in their career if they won this fight. And most likely as the boxing fans here favoured, it will be Thurman, although he lost to Manny Pacquiao, he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.
You have to look at the previous discussion, friends, the purpose of the vision I said above is that they want to give today's battle a victory because they have experienced defeat before.
Of course, with the defeat in the previous battle, it certainly gave them more motivation so that they didn't lose for the second time.
but indeed things like this will not be easy because indirectly the defeat they feel can become a boomerang for them because they are still trapped in the shadow of defeat.

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I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.
they must destroy the doubts from within themselves at this time due to the defeat in the previous game.
besides practicing with more leverage will make them much stronger.
Honestly, I like these two boxers because they both have good vision at the moment.
now their match is just counting the days depending on how ready they are both in terms of training and mentally because now it is certain that the strong will win

Just for the record, both of them are coming from a big lost so not sure what do you mean by having a good vision?

Either way, only one of them would have to move in their career if they won this fight. And most likely as the boxing fans here favoured, it will be Thurman, although he lost to Manny Pacquiao, he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.
You have to look at the previous discussion, friends, the purpose of the vision I said above is that they want to give today's battle a victory because they have experienced defeat before.
Of course, with the defeat in the previous battle, it certainly gave them more motivation so that they didn't lose for the second time.
but indeed things like this will not be easy because indirectly the defeat they feel can become a boomerang for them because they are still trapped in the shadow of defeat.
We aren't perfect even those people do say that forgetting the past might sound simple but this isn't something true because being trapped in the shadow of defeat could really be there and this is  where

mental health do really differs because each person is totally different in terms of mindset and emotion.If they wouldn't really able to overcome those problems then they would really be having a hard

time on progressing further because that would really be a big hindrance for them to make themselves way more better than before.

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January 04, 2022, 09:38:24 PM
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You have to look at the previous discussion, friends, the purpose of the vision I said above is that they want to give today's battle a victory because they have experienced defeat before.
Of course, with the defeat in the previous battle, it certainly gave them more motivation so that they didn't lose for the second time.
but indeed things like this will not be easy because indirectly the defeat they feel can become a boomerang for them because they are still trapped in the shadow of defeat.

When you say a boxer is trapped in a shadow of defeat that means he no longer pursue his boxing career because of one devastating defeat. But these 2 fighters are still young and motivated, I guess that's because of that 1 defeat in their entire career. Though Thurman is the most favourite in this match, but I guess this fight will still be interesting because they both have 1 defeat and they both are eager to bounce back from their first loss. I don't think Barrios will be an easy opponent to defeat I mean he's younger and has the height and reach advantage.

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January 05, 2022, 07:16:30 PM
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You have to look at the previous discussion, friends, the purpose of the vision I said above is that they want to give today's battle a victory because they have experienced defeat before.
Of course, with the defeat in the previous battle, it certainly gave them more motivation so that they didn't lose for the second time.
but indeed things like this will not be easy because indirectly the defeat they feel can become a boomerang for them because they are still trapped in the shadow of defeat.
We aren't perfect even those people do say that forgetting the past might sound simple but this isn't something true because being trapped in the shadow of defeat could really be there and this is  where

mental health do really differs because each person is totally different in terms of mindset and emotion.If they wouldn't really able to overcome those problems then they would really be having a hard

time on progressing further because that would really be a big hindrance for them to make themselves way more better than before.
on the other hand they are still quite young and indeed when they want to become a great boxer they must be able to let go of that shadow so that they become more resilient in the future and will not be shaken from a mental point of view.
they have to be able to beat the shadows within themselves even though it is a difficult thing but like it or not they have to pass for their career ladder to be even higher

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January 06, 2022, 03:21:11 AM
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You have to look at the previous discussion, friends, the purpose of the vision I said above is that they want to give today's battle a victory because they have experienced defeat before.
Of course, with the defeat in the previous battle, it certainly gave them more motivation so that they didn't lose for the second time.
but indeed things like this will not be easy because indirectly the defeat they feel can become a boomerang for them because they are still trapped in the shadow of defeat.
We aren't perfect even those people do say that forgetting the past might sound simple but this isn't something true because being trapped in the shadow of defeat could really be there and this is  where

mental health do really differs because each person is totally different in terms of mindset and emotion.If they wouldn't really able to overcome those problems then they would really be having a hard

time on progressing further because that would really be a big hindrance for them to make themselves way more better than before.
on the other hand they are still quite young and indeed when they want to become a great boxer they must be able to let go of that shadow so that they become more resilient in the future and will not be shaken from a mental point of view.
they have to be able to beat the shadows within themselves even though it is a difficult thing but like it or not they have to pass for their career ladder to be even higher

There are boxers that are really shaken though, after a huge defeat, for example Ricky Hatton, who just completely lost it after the Manny Pacquiao knock out, and also Margarito, physically, Manny disfigured his face and was not the same after.

But Barrios and Thurman's lost was different that I think they can still go back. Although it really took Thurman a long time because maybe he was really affected, but it seems he was able to overcome it already in the last two years.

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January 06, 2022, 03:25:52 AM
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I'm sure they will, the hardest for a boxer is to win a comeback fight from a big fight, they badly needed this win to get into contention again, they must their demons and their struggle to comeback because both have frustrations from their last fight on Barrios getting knock out by Davis and Thurman losing a decision against Pacquiao, Barrios will have a huge struggle because he is fighting a guy who has good ring generalship power and experience, having both the best in the welterweight division.
they must destroy the doubts from within themselves at this time due to the defeat in the previous game.
besides practicing with more leverage will make them much stronger.
Honestly, I like these two boxers because they both have good vision at the moment.
now their match is just counting the days depending on how ready they are both in terms of training and mentally because now it is certain that the strong will win

Just for the record, both of them are coming from a big lost so not sure what do you mean by having a good vision?

Either way, only one of them would have to move in their career if they won this fight. And most likely as the boxing fans here favoured, it will be Thurman, although he lost to Manny Pacquiao, he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.
You have to look at the previous discussion, friends, the purpose of the vision I said above is that they want to give today's battle a victory because they have experienced defeat before.
Of course, with the defeat in the previous battle, it certainly gave them more motivation so that they didn't lose for the second time.
but indeed things like this will not be easy because indirectly the defeat they feel can become a boomerang for them because they are still trapped in the shadow of defeat.

For sure they want to get out of the shadow of the defeat. Thurman though took a long hiatus of 2 years while Barrios wanted to fight again but this time move out to the weight that he might be comfortable fighting. So let's see how is more motivated after a defeat, but it seems majority here thinks that Thurman will be the last man standing here or possibility win by knockout, what do you think?

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January 06, 2022, 03:33:34 AM
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he could have recovered already from that pain and could be looking to put his name again in the welterweight division.

The moment he decided to fight again, he already sealed that loss in history and now moving on.

It's not just about the loss against Manny Pacquiao why he became inactive for 29 months. Some reasons are; his injury, the pandemic, and the lack of a possible fight date at the end of 2021. He knows how to accept the defeat and won't cry like a baby for long before accepting his loss.

Keith Thurman is ready to become a major player in the welterweight division

This is what I admire about Thurman, just before that Pacquiao's fight, he was vowing that he will retire Pacquiao.
But it was the opposite that happened inside the ring. And after that, he accepted his loss and made good friends with Pac.

https://www.ringtv.com/564493-keith-thurman-vows-to-retire-manny-pacquiao-but-pacquiao-says-hes-far-from-done/

Now, it seems, he is ready for his comeback after long hiatus. Definitely, he will comeback in full strength here.
To prove that he has still the power in this division, he maybe planning to defeat one boxer after another and he will start with Barrios.
Hoping that he will have good training because of the covid restrictions. Well, everywhere now is starting to see the impact of this omicron variant.

He was a good sport and we should understand that he trash-talking before the fight was just part of the business. Thurman accepted his loss and respected the Pacman after the fight, with that he also gain the respect of the fans, especially the Filipino fans all over the world.

I'm not sure if they are good friends but I heard in the news that Pacman name his dog Thurman, that's crazy.   Grin

This guy is admirable, at first we hate him because he was trash-talking out one and only living legend but later he vow to give credit to the champion. He is humble in real life but is good in selling his fight, and that was great fight between him and Manny so we deserve to see another fight from Thurman and this time arond I l know he will win.

I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all, as he trash talk a legend and a non-American boxer that really put his image in the bad light. And then he losses that fight, LOL, that was the irony, he can't back up his talk, but Manny is just not responding to his trash talk but then knock him down in the first round. Maybe he will still trash talk, but not that like forced trash talking just to sell the fight.

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January 06, 2022, 01:09:53 PM
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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

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January 06, 2022, 01:28:07 PM
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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

Of course, after you got beaten by the midget Pacman, the best thing to do is to become friends with him. We've seen if from Pacquiao's previous opponent, even his fierce rival, Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales. Morales even travel to the Philippines and have a beer commercial with Pacquiao. And what is that you have to hate Manny? Nothing, it's just boxing for Thurman but I do agree that he really goes overboard with that trash talking but now he can talk about his fight on public, a sign that he really move on from that lone defeat in his record.
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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

Yeah, I think he made the fight sell with all his argument of "I'm going to retire Manny Pacquiao".

So we try to watch the fight but it didn't happen, quite on the contrary though, he gets knock down on the first round, then tries to rally back but Pacquiao has a tough chin and then scoring with good body shots on Thurman and it was enough to escape for a great win.

Thurman then eats his word but acknowledge that he underestimate Manny back then and sure enough he went for a long layoff and think all over again and what to do with his career.
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on the other hand they are still quite young and indeed when they want to become a great boxer they must be able to let go of that shadow so that they become more resilient in the future and will not be shaken from a mental point of view.
they have to be able to beat the shadows within themselves even though it is a difficult thing but like it or not they have to pass for their career ladder to be even higher

There are boxers that are really shaken though, after a huge defeat, for example Ricky Hatton, who just completely lost it after the Manny Pacquiao knock out, and also Margarito, physically, Manny disfigured his face and was not the same after.

But Barrios and Thurman's lost was different that I think they can still go back. Although it really took Thurman a long time because maybe he was really affected, but it seems he was able to overcome it already in the last two years.
even if I'm not mistaken after that Hatton immediately resigned and retired from the world of boxing due to the shock he had after losing to Manny at that time.
it's true for these two boxers they still have a chance to bounce back but it's back to themselves whether they can afford it or not.

For sure they want to get out of the shadow of the defeat. Thurman though took a long hiatus of 2 years while Barrios wanted to fight again but this time move out to the weight that he might be comfortable fighting. So let's see how is more motivated after a defeat, but it seems majority here thinks that Thurman will be the last man standing here or possibility win by knockout, what do you think?
I personally was on Thurman's side in this match.
even though he did make a long break but for me it was a pretty good decision and when he's back now it's an even better decision because he is one boxer who is quite complete both in terms of his strength and speed.

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January 07, 2022, 06:00:27 PM
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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

Yeah, I think he made the fight sell with all his argument of "I'm going to retire Manny Pacquiao".

So we try to watch the fight but it didn't happen, quite on the contrary though, he gets knock down on the first round, then tries to rally back but Pacquiao has a tough chin and then scoring with good body shots on Thurman and it was enough to escape for a great win.

Thurman then eats his word but acknowledge that he underestimate Manny back then and sure enough he went for a long layoff and think all over again and what to do with his career.

I guess he really tries to attack Manny with those kind of word, I mean it's a psyche war. But knowing Manny, who has met a lot of trash talking during his career, he was not bother by any of the words throw by Thurman.

But let's see what Thurman's trash talking will be against Barrios, maybe when they have a face-off he will used the argument that he was beaten by a little guy in Tank Davis or something like that.

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January 07, 2022, 06:12:41 PM
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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

Yeah, I think he made the fight sell with all his argument of "I'm going to retire Manny Pacquiao".

So we try to watch the fight but it didn't happen, quite on the contrary though, he gets knock down on the first round, then tries to rally back but Pacquiao has a tough chin and then scoring with good body shots on Thurman and it was enough to escape for a great win.

Thurman then eats his word but acknowledge that he underestimate Manny back then and sure enough he went for a long layoff and think all over again and what to do with his career.

I guess he really tries to attack Manny with those kind of word, I mean it's a psyche war. But knowing Manny, who has met a lot of trash talking during his career, he was not bother by any of the words throw by Thurman.

But let's see what Thurman's trash talking will be against Barrios, maybe when they have a face-off he will used the argument that he was beaten by a little guy in Tank Davis or something like that.

But no offense to Thurman he really gain the attention after that fight with Manny, those trash talks works well bringing viewers and bettors

to the fight.  I'm also waiting for whatever the promoters will do to attract attention and also to bring audiences for this fight, Barrios may

also have those counters and might create a word of mouth before the fight start...
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January 07, 2022, 07:50:01 PM
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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

Yeah, I think he made the fight sell with all his argument of "I'm going to retire Manny Pacquiao".

So we try to watch the fight but it didn't happen, quite on the contrary though, he gets knock down on the first round, then tries to rally back but Pacquiao has a tough chin and then scoring with good body shots on Thurman and it was enough to escape for a great win.

Thurman then eats his word but acknowledge that he underestimate Manny back then and sure enough he went for a long layoff and think all over again and what to do with his career.

I guess he really tries to attack Manny with those kind of word, I mean it's a psyche war. But knowing Manny, who has met a lot of trash talking during his career, he was not bother by any of the words throw by Thurman.

But let's see what Thurman's trash talking will be against Barrios, maybe when they have a face-off he will used the argument that he was beaten by a little guy in Tank Davis or something like that.

But no offense to Thurman he really gain the attention after that fight with Manny, those trash talks works well bringing viewers and bettors

to the fight.  I'm also waiting for whatever the promoters will do to attract attention and also to bring audiences for this fight, Barrios may

also have those counters and might create a word of mouth before the fight start...

I placed my bet on Thurman here even if he has long hiatus inside the ring. Though he was trash talking before Pacquiao's fight, he showed good manners afterwards. So yes, maybe it is not really in his blood to be loudmouth individual. I thought he will retire for good but now, maybe, he realized he has still something to give inside the ring. We will see.
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January 07, 2022, 08:00:12 PM
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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

Yeah, I think he made the fight sell with all his argument of "I'm going to retire Manny Pacquiao".

So we try to watch the fight but it didn't happen, quite on the contrary though, he gets knock down on the first round, then tries to rally back but Pacquiao has a tough chin and then scoring with good body shots on Thurman and it was enough to escape for a great win.

Thurman then eats his word but acknowledge that he underestimate Manny back then and sure enough he went for a long layoff and think all over again and what to do with his career.

I guess he really tries to attack Manny with those kind of word, I mean it's a psyche war. But knowing Manny, who has met a lot of trash talking during his career, he was not bother by any of the words throw by Thurman.

But let's see what Thurman's trash talking will be against Barrios, maybe when they have a face-off he will used the argument that he was beaten by a little guy in Tank Davis or something like that.

Does psychological warfare really a thing for professional boxing? Or any combat sport?
I don't think so.
Most of the trash talking isn't always an attack to the opponent to get under his skin, sometimes it's a marketing strategy to sell the fight to the crowd. Especially when you're facing against a living legend. I don't think you can't provoke him psychologically. .

If uses those words again against Barrios, always remember that's just a way to sell a fight. 

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January 07, 2022, 09:17:24 PM
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If uses those words again against Barrios, always remember that's just a way to sell a fight. 

Exactly, everything a fighter does including the trash-talking is just a way to sell a fight, Thurman is good at that as he was successful with his fight against Manny, so it will not be hard for him to sell this fight which he will likely win. The comeback of Thurman will be happening soon, so hopefully, after this fight, he will get a shot against Crawford.

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January 07, 2022, 11:52:02 PM
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Does psychological warfare really a thing for professional boxing? Or any combat sport?
I don't think so.
Most of the trash talking isn't always an attack to the opponent to get under his skin, sometimes it's a marketing strategy to sell the fight to the crowd. Especially when you're facing against a living legend. I don't think you can't provoke him psychologically. .

If uses those words again against Barrios, always remember that's just a way to sell a fight. 
People does have different inputs or impressions whenever a boxer or an athlete would really trash talk his opponent or anything else where they do treat it up to be non appropriate which they do

really thought that other one doesn't have any respect or some sort but I agree on what you had said that this is one of the things which is common to market out the fight to let hype

and interest would go to the roof since they do know that  this could really be beneficial for them as long they do able to get sufficient number of viewers or supporters.

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January 07, 2022, 11:59:27 PM
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Does psychological warfare really a thing for professional boxing? Or any combat sport?
I don't think so.
Most of the trash talking isn't always an attack to the opponent to get under his skin, sometimes it's a marketing strategy to sell the fight to the crowd. Especially when you're facing against a living legend. I don't think you can't provoke him psychologically. .

If uses those words again against Barrios, always remember that's just a way to sell a fight.  

I agree with you. Those trashtalks are nothing when they fight now on the ring. That was only for market-related purposes and since both are coming from a loss, I doubt they can make a good PPV or gate entrance. They need to work hard to promote their fight.

A trash talk is needed to fuel the fire and get the public's attention at any cost. Barrios should do the same lol.

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My thought on this fight I really thought that Keith Thurman would really retire because of his inactivity for 2 years or more, his last fight with Manny Pacquiao was on Jul 20, 2019, and ever since that loss there might be something that happen or maybe because of Covid-19, I really don't know what has Keith was doing during his inactivity for 2 years but his opponent even though the loss to Gervonta Davis is active ever since and his opponent is 7 years younger than him if we will consider ring rust because of Keith Thurman's inactivity inside the ring, I really think he can eventually recover from it, I think he is more experienced than Barrios even though Thurman was out of action in 6 months because of surgery on his right elbow back on May 19, 2017, he has shown back up again in training, so I think he can get back and make that rust come out, I really do think he has the most punching power than Barrios even thought Mario Barrios has the height and reach advantage.
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I really do think he has the most punching power than Barrios even thought Mario Barrios has the height and reach advantage.

The boxer with the power will win the match and Thurman between the two has it, Barrios is a guy moving up and he is against a guy who has tasted punches coming from big punchers and he held, on compared to Barrios who fought a hard puncher in Gervonta and cannot keep up, I expect Thurman to knock Barrios because of his superiority in speed and power.
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I really do think he has the most punching power than Barrios even thought Mario Barrios has the height and reach advantage.

The boxer with the power will win the match and Thurman between the two has it, Barrios is a guy moving up and he is against a guy who has tasted punches coming from big punchers and he held, on compared to Barrios who fought a hard puncher in Gervonta and cannot keep up, I expect Thurman to knock Barrios because of his superiority in speed and power.

And also remember that Thurman is the natural welterweight here and Barrios is just going up in weight. So he hasn't been tested in this division and maybe he will not like it when he felt Thurman's power in this division.

Thurman though doesn't have the speed, I think I will get that to Barrios, but the power will be definitely on Keith here and possible that he can win by knock out.

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January 08, 2022, 04:25:37 AM
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Thurman is training himself, you can check on his social media. But yeah training alone and training while fight with real boxer are different, he need to warm up first before fight with Barrios.

He's still 33 years old, I don't think he would retire when he's still in prime conditions Grin his previous fight with Pacquiao is big lesson for him to become better. But still, I'll pick Thurman for this fight, Barrios aren't really powerful IMO.

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January 08, 2022, 05:06:33 AM
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Thurman is training himself, you can check on his social media. But yeah training alone and training while fight with real boxer are different, he need to warm up first before fight with Barrios.

He's still 33 years old, I don't think he would retire when he's still in prime conditions Grin his previous fight with Pacquiao is big lesson for him to become better. But still, I'll pick Thurman for this fight, Barrios aren't really powerful IMO.
I think Mario Barrios will be always on the fight but at the end of the day I just believe that Keith Thurman is the much better fighter, the most experience fighter, the much bigger and the much stronger fighter than Barrios. And there is a possibility that Keith Thurman can K.O Mario Barrios. Thurman winning this fight but it will be a competitive one.  
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He's still 33 years old, I don't think he would retire when he's still in prime conditions Grin his previous fight with Pacquiao is big lesson for him to become better. But still, I'll pick Thurman for this fight, Barrios aren't really powerful IMO.

In the beginning, the fight was considered a mismatch or not appropriate (please don't take seriously the word mismatch). It's just that Thurman is coming out from a long hiatus that's why instead of jumping right away to the most dominant fighter, the camp chooses first to test Thurman's ability to take some refreshment.

After winning, expect Thurman's camp to voice out who gonna be the next. And I'm sure it's now against a big name.
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The boxer with the power will win the match and Thurman between the two has it, Barrios is a guy moving up and he is against a guy who has tasted punches coming from big punchers and he held, on compared to Barrios who fought a hard puncher in Gervonta and cannot keep up, I expect Thurman to knock Barrios because of his superiority in speed and power.

Definitely, the fighter with the power will surely win this fight Mario Barrios right now is the underdog that will be tested if he is ready for the welterweight division and both fighters are testing themselves for Thurman his inactivity if he's going to be ready for the big names, and for Mario Barrios, readying him for this division, I guess losing to Pacman has its advantage, he now sure have the feeling of losing and he would never want that kind of feeling anymore.

Thurman is training himself, you can check on his social media. But yeah training alone and training while fight with real boxer are different, he need to warm up first before fight with Barrios.

He's still 33 years old, I don't think he would retire when he's still in prime conditions Grin his previous fight with Pacquiao is big lesson for him to become better. But still, I'll pick Thurman for this fight, Barrios aren't really powerful IMO.

If he's training then that is good, I think there are some boxers even though they are already retired will surely search for that feeling like they are still training, and I think Manny Pacquiao is one of them, well that length of his inactivity was the one I am referring and just think that maybe because of the Covid-19 that is why he was never seen more than 2 years, but yeah I too will definitely go with Keith Thurman in this fight.

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If we should analyse the strength and speed of thurman and barrios, thurman has more than barrios.  Thurman is and experience fighter  with different fighting strategy,  he may likely win.

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Thurman is training himself, you can check on his social media. But yeah training alone and training while fight with real boxer are different, he need to warm up first before fight with Barrios.

He's still 33 years old, I don't think he would retire when he's still in prime conditions Grin his previous fight with Pacquiao is big lesson for him to become better. But still, I'll pick Thurman for this fight, Barrios aren't really powerful IMO.
I think Mario Barrios will be always on the fight but at the end of the day I just believe that Keith Thurman is the much better fighter, the most experience fighter, the much bigger and the much stronger fighter than Barrios. And there is a possibility that Keith Thurman can K.O Mario Barrios. Thurman winning this fight but it will be a competitive one.  
That is really a big possibility because Thurman is known to have big power, the only weaknesses in Thurman is body shots in which Manny takes advantages of during their fight. When you hit Thurman with a good body shot, it will obviously slow him down so I think that will be a good strategy for Barrios. And who knows, maybe if he hits him perfectly in the "solar plexus", maybe it will have a bad effect on Thurman and will go down and take a knee.

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Let's check the betting odds again. As per this site https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/keith-thurman-v-mario-barrios/winner

Thurman is the favorite though not a heavy favorite, and I think the odds are still very attractive. He is currently 4/7, -175, or 1.57 in decimal.
That's 57% winning of your bet, I think I can take it without hesitation as I really love to see him win here.

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I think Thurman really went over board with his trash talking to Pacquiao, or maybe that is not his personality after all....

We thought he went overboard because we bought his trash talk. what matters is in the end they become friends and there's no trash talk anymore. If Thurman was real with his statement, it would be hard for him to accept his losses but he was humble on his defeat and he showed good sportsmanship so he gain respect despite his trash talk.

Yeah, I think he made the fight sell with all his argument of "I'm going to retire Manny Pacquiao".

So we try to watch the fight but it didn't happen, quite on the contrary though, he gets knock down on the first round, then tries to rally back but Pacquiao has a tough chin and then scoring with good body shots on Thurman and it was enough to escape for a great win.

Thurman then eats his word but acknowledge that he underestimate Manny back then and sure enough he went for a long layoff and think all over again and what to do with his career.

I guess he really tries to attack Manny with those kind of word, I mean it's a psyche war. But knowing Manny, who has met a lot of trash talking during his career, he was not bother by any of the words throw by Thurman.

And it really like went back fire on Thurman, he bark on the wrong tree so to speak as Pacquiao seems to be immune with the trash talking and would rather focus on the fight rather than using energy to talk back.

But let's see what Thurman's trash talking will be against Barrios, maybe when they have a face-off he will used the argument that he was beaten by a little guy in Tank Davis or something like that.

For sure Thurman will have a choice of words against Barrios and we will here it as some as the fight gets closer. He is also an announcer so we all know that once he open his mouth, it's hard to stop and he could trash talk Barrios just like what he did to Manny.
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Let's check the betting odds again. As per this site https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/keith-thurman-v-mario-barrios/winner

Thurman is the favorite though not a heavy favorite, and I think the odds are still very attractive. He is currently 4/7, -175, or 1.57 in decimal.
That's 57% winning of your bet, I think I can take it without hesitation as I really love to see him win here.

At Duelbits, Thurman is at 1.59 odds. Just a lil bit higher.

https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/match/31435521-Thurman-Keith-vs-Barrios-Mario

I even saw one crypto bookie here offering 1.68 in favor of Thurman.
So yes, Thurman is slightly the favorite here. Hope he will not disappoint us here.
If he will win this fight, for sure, he will go after big names.
This is just a test of his strength in this comeback fight.
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If he will win this fight, for sure, he will go after big names.
This is just a test of his strength in this comeback fight.

The same thought. He doesn't want to risk a big comeback fight and wants to test his strength first on the lower tier.

But I think it's not just the reason. I know there are lots of chances opened to him but there's always a conflict. And now that everything is settled and finally got a fight schedule, he will now test if his "strength" is still there and just waiting to be awakened.
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January 09, 2022, 11:50:32 PM
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For sure Thurman will have a choice of words against Barrios and we will here it as some as the fight gets closer. He is also an announcer so we all know that once he open his mouth, it's hard to stop and he could trash talk Barrios just like what he did to Manny.

I think that should be expected for Thurman. If I'm not wrong, I think most of his opponents received trash talk to him meaning that was his character in the beginning.

Maybe to market the fight or just too confident to himself.

I'm now eyeing to underdog Barrios to win and put Thurman in losing and will lead to his early retirement lol.
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For sure Thurman will have a choice of words against Barrios and we will here it as some as the fight gets closer. He is also an announcer so we all know that once he open his mouth, it's hard to stop and he could trash talk Barrios just like what he did to Manny.

I think that should be expected for Thurman. If I'm not wrong, I think most of his opponents received trash talk to him meaning that was his character in the beginning.

Maybe to market the fight or just too confident to himself.

I'm now eyeing to underdog Barrios to win and put Thurman in losing and will lead to his early retirement lol.

I think it's typical of a American boxer to really trash talk their way to the fight, after-all they wanted to make some noise so I also expect Thurman to start going to the public more often.

However, it's hard to see the underdog Barrios winning the fight. I mean this will be his first time to fight in the bigger division. He may have a hard time making weight for the 140 lbs division that's why he lost to Davis. But 147 lbs is different as there are a lot of good and power puncher in this division and that he may not take the power of Thurman.

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January 10, 2022, 12:24:58 PM
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Let's check the betting odds again. As per this site https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/keith-thurman-v-mario-barrios/winner

Thurman is the favorite though not a heavy favorite, and I think the odds are still very attractive. He is currently 4/7, -175, or 1.57 in decimal.
That's 57% winning of your bet, I think I can take it without hesitation as I really love to see him win here.

At Duelbits, Thurman is at 1.59 odds. Just a lil bit higher.

https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/match/31435521-Thurman-Keith-vs-Barrios-Mario

I even saw one crypto bookie here offering 1.68 in favor of Thurman.
So yes, Thurman is slightly the favorite here. Hope he will not disappoint us here.
If he will win this fight, for sure, he will go after big names.
This is just a test of his strength in this comeback fight.

Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.

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Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.


Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite... Wink Roll Eyes

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Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.


Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite... Wink Roll Eyes


Yeah, betting on Thurman early might be a good idea, 1.57 and then throw some big money on him.

I think he is over with the Manny Pacquiao lost, he has received a lot of criticism back them but for sure he has forgotten that already and move on and now solely focus on the fight on his table.

He is still young and at the prime of his year. Maybe it really did some good on him taking a long break after that devastating lost from Manny.
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January 10, 2022, 12:48:06 PM
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Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.


Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite... Wink Roll Eyes


I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.



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January 10, 2022, 02:15:58 PM
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Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.


Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite... Wink Roll Eyes


I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Same here, there's no way I would think twice before betting on Thurman, that's a decent odds already as I was expecting I would get 1.30 on this fight, but here we are,  the odds are pretty attractive for a fighter that was dominant before he loses to Pacman. Thurman will rise so this fight is really important for him and I trust him that he can deliver a "V".

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January 10, 2022, 03:59:59 PM
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I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Boosting is another great way to increase your odds, and you are right, Thurman's fans will probably bet for him,

Believing that he still that passion with this sport. That's why he's now back and ready to fight.

I would check that and if I have a spare budget, I will also place some bet for Thurman.

I still believe that he can beat Barrios as he doesn't have to adjust that much,

only needs to prepare with his old routines and start increasing his stamina.
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I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Boosting is another great way to increase your odds, and you are right, Thurman's fans will probably bet for him,

Believing that he still that passion with this sport. That's why he's now back and ready to fight.

I would check that and if I have a spare budget, I will also place some bet for Thurman.

I still believe that he can beat Barrios as he doesn't have to adjust that much,

only needs to prepare with his old routines and start increasing his stamina.

Thurman has never been KO in his career, though he got knocked down by Pacman he continued and he even gets stronger in the later rounds that always result in a victory, unfortunately, he lost via split decision and that was really close. Thurman has power and good stamina, if he stays disciplined after a while of inactivity, then we can assure that he will win here, probably via KO.

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January 13, 2022, 03:51:16 AM
 #153


Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.


Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite... Wink Roll Eyes


I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Something that has always caught my attention is boxing statistics because they are rarely wrong, years ago when I went to watch a fight, I was based on the preparation of each boxer, how hard was their training, what their coaches talked about. of them and everything that had to do with their physical preparation, of course this has to do with the assessment of each athlete. For now, the domain belongs to Thurman and I think it will continue to be the case, if we take these numbers into account they are very strong, however I have a lot of doubt about Barrios because he may surprise.

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January 13, 2022, 11:16:01 AM
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Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.


Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite... Wink Roll Eyes


I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Something that has always caught my attention is boxing statistics because they are rarely wrong, years ago when I went to watch a fight, I was based on the preparation of each boxer, how hard was their training, what their coaches talked about. of them and everything that had to do with their physical preparation, of course this has to do with the assessment of each athlete. For now, the domain belongs to Thurman and I think it will continue to be the case, if we take these numbers into account they are very strong, however I have a lot of doubt about Barrios because he may surprise.


You will not be able to put your bet if you have doubts, you have to understand that this is gambling, we can bet and hope we win as we may also be wrong. For me, I would always choose Thurman, win or lose, no regret because that's my decision and I'm confident with it.

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January 13, 2022, 12:04:29 PM
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I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Boosting is another great way to increase your odds, and you are right, Thurman's fans will probably bet for him,

Believing that he still that passion with this sport. That's why he's now back and ready to fight.

I would check that and if I have a spare budget, I will also place some bet for Thurman.

I still believe that he can beat Barrios as he doesn't have to adjust that much,

only needs to prepare with his old routines and start increasing his stamina.

Thurman has never been KO in his career, though he got knocked down by Pacman he continued and he even gets stronger in the later rounds that always result in a victory, unfortunately, he lost via split decision and that was really close. Thurman has power and good stamina, if he stays disciplined after a while of inactivity, then we can assure that he will win here, probably via KO.

And he shows some weaknesses that is his body. Every time he was hit by Manny, he flitches so Barrios will target that body for sure. So it really up to Thurman on how to prepare in this fight. Maybe he will strengthen his abdomen, not sure if there is a training though to do that.

But he will still be the favourite to win in this fight even after a long lay off. Bettors knows that Thurman is the better boxer here and he could win by KO.
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Thurman has never been KO in his career, though he got knocked down by Pacman he continued and he even gets stronger in the later rounds that always result in a victory, unfortunately, he lost via split decision and that was really close. Thurman has power and good stamina, if he stays disciplined after a while of inactivity, then we can assure that he will win here, probably via KO.

Yup, he almost win that fight. If he didn't get that early knock down, that split decision might have a different outcome.

He fought well and if he continue to have that same discipline with his body, conditioning is not hard for him to bring that

stamina back, it's interesting to place some decent bet for Thurman he still have that good edge since he just rest for a while but

it's the same ground where his feet originally standing.. Wink
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Thurman has never been KO in his career, though he got knocked down by Pacman he continued and he even gets stronger in the later rounds that always result in a victory, unfortunately, he lost via split decision and that was really close. Thurman has power and good stamina, if he stays disciplined after a while of inactivity, then we can assure that he will win here, probably via KO.

Yup, he almost win that fight. If he didn't get that early knock down, that split decision might have a different outcome.

He fought well and if he continue to have that same discipline with his body, conditioning is not hard for him to bring that

stamina back, it's interesting to place some decent bet for Thurman he still have that good edge since he just rest for a while but

it's the same ground where his feet originally standing.. Wink

It was a fair match against Manny, in that fight, Manny showed that he is not anymore in his prime as he got tired in the later rounds, a good thing he dominated the first half of the fight so he impress the judges. now, it's time for Thurman to come back, by winning this fight, I would say he officially returns to the big stage of warriors.

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I read some interview that Mario Barrios said that he doesn't want an easy fight in his maiden match for the welterweight division so he chooses Thurman as his first fight.

Not sure though if this is true, whether he is the one who offer Thurman a fight or Thurman's camp put the contract first to Barrios. Nevertheless, it might be too much for Barrios to swallow as Thurman is one of the best welterweight we have right now.
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I read some interview that Mario Barrios said that he doesn't want an easy fight in his maiden match for the welterweight division so he chooses Thurman as his first fight.

Not sure though if this is true, whether he is the one who offer Thurman a fight or Thurman's camp put the contract first to Barrios. Nevertheless, it might be too much for Barrios to swallow as Thurman is one of the best welterweight we have right now.
for now maybe I will be by Keith 'One Time' Thurman's side in this fight.
he still hasn't finished after losing to manny in 2019 ago and he is now trying to make something more interesting here.
On the other hand, the match will not run smoothly and will be very exciting to watch, even though I still predict that Keith will still be quite superior.
he lost to manny in 2019 after going through 12 rounds and even if it loses still can't say that he is weak and even he is very resilient in this.

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Thurman has never been KO in his career, though he got knocked down by Pacman he continued and he even gets stronger in the later rounds that always result in a victory, unfortunately, he lost via split decision and that was really close. Thurman has power and good stamina, if he stays disciplined after a while of inactivity, then we can assure that he will win here, probably via KO.

Yup, he almost win that fight. If he didn't get that early knock down, that split decision might have a different outcome.

He fought well and if he continue to have that same discipline with his body, conditioning is not hard for him to bring that

stamina back, it's interesting to place some decent bet for Thurman he still have that good edge since he just rest for a while but

it's the same ground where his feet originally standing.. Wink

And he will do everything to win again. It's an exemption fighting Pacman, now that the legend is out and earns the best experience in his career already, it's time for him to come back and start dominating again, giving the top-ranking welterweights a real challenge.

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Thurman has never been KO in his career, though he got knocked down by Pacman he continued and he even gets stronger in the later rounds that always result in a victory, unfortunately, he lost via split decision and that was really close. Thurman has power and good stamina, if he stays disciplined after a while of inactivity, then we can assure that he will win here, probably via KO.

Yup, he almost win that fight. If he didn't get that early knock down, that split decision might have a different outcome.

He fought well and if he continue to have that same discipline with his body, conditioning is not hard for him to bring that

stamina back, it's interesting to place some decent bet for Thurman he still have that good edge since he just rest for a while but

it's the same ground where his feet originally standing.. Wink

And he will do everything to win again. It's an exemption fighting Pacman, now that the legend is out and earns the best experience in his career already, it's time for him to come back and start dominating again, giving the top-ranking welterweights a real challenge.

Well, he didn't make an excuse and that's good for him as being undefeated who had his first loss, he will certainly learn a lot from that fight, and going forward he will continue to improve. I'm expecting a better Thurman in his coming fight, a more matured fighter that could easily beat his opponent. I believe after this fight we will see some speculation on a possible fight for him against Spence or Crawford if both will win on their respective fights.
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Well, he didn't make an excuse and that's good for him as being undefeated who had his first loss, he will certainly learn a lot from that fight, and going forward he will continue to improve. I'm expecting a better Thurman in his coming fight, a more matured fighter that could easily beat his opponent. I believe after this fight we will see some speculation on a possible fight for him against Spence or Crawford if both will win on their respective fights.

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back, that last loss is a privilege. He fought against a legend and for sure, he
learned from that fight.

We will see what preparation he did before this fight, if he still that same form and the same stamina from that last time we saw him
inside the ring.

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Well, he didn't make an excuse and that's good for him as being undefeated who had his first loss, he will certainly learn a lot from that fight, and going forward he will continue to improve. I'm expecting a better Thurman in his coming fight, a more matured fighter that could easily beat his opponent. I believe after this fight we will see some speculation on a possible fight for him against Spence or Crawford if both will win on their respective fights.

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back, that last loss is a privilege. He fought against a legend and for sure, he
learned from that fight.

We will see what preparation he did before this fight, if he still that same form and the same stamina from that last time we saw him
inside the ring.


That's enough for him to win against Barrios as he was able to survive against Pacman who is faster and a heavy puncher too. Barriors is not on the same level as Pacman, Spence, and Crawford, so he should take care of him easily and beat to improve his ranking again. I used to see Thurman in the top 5, I'm sure I will see him again at that ranking soon.

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January 16, 2022, 05:52:37 AM
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Well, he didn't make an excuse and that's good for him as being undefeated who had his first loss, he will certainly learn a lot from that fight, and going forward he will continue to improve. I'm expecting a better Thurman in his coming fight, a more matured fighter that could easily beat his opponent. I believe after this fight we will see some speculation on a possible fight for him against Spence or Crawford if both will win on their respective fights.

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back, that last loss is a privilege. He fought against a legend and for sure, he
learned from that fight.

We will see what preparation he did before this fight, if he still that same form and the same stamina from that last time we saw him
inside the ring.

I think that's what motivates Thurman to come back and claim his place in the welterweight. The two names that are popping up in the discussion is Crawford and Spence. Prior to that, it was Thurman, Danny Garcia, Pacquiao and Porter (both retired).

So he wanted to throw his name on the mix again as to who is the best in this division. So if he wins, definitely, he will call either Spence or Crawford for his next fight.

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January 16, 2022, 07:11:40 AM
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And he will do everything to win again. It's an exemption fighting Pacman, now that the legend is out and earns the best experience in his career already, it's time for him to come back and start dominating again, giving the top-ranking welterweights a real challenge.
Well, all of the boxers will do everything to win most of their matches. For sure that Thurman is going to be well prepared on this but I'm missing the part that he's hyping his match just like what he did with his match against Pacman. He should do that and throw some interesting words against Barrios for them to get the interest of the crowd. I guess he has to do it so that the same attention will be given to him on this match.

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And he will do everything to win again. It's an exemption fighting Pacman, now that the legend is out and earns the best experience in his career already, it's time for him to come back and start dominating again, giving the top-ranking welterweights a real challenge.
Well, all of the boxers will do everything to win most of their matches. For sure that Thurman is going to be well prepared on this but I'm missing the part that he's hyping his match just like what he did with his match against Pacman. He should do that and throw some interesting words against Barrios for them to get the interest of the crowd. I guess he has to do it so that the same attention will be given to him on this match.

Maybe he doesn't want to at this point because he has learnt his hard lessons from the Pacman fight.

Or maybe he is focusing first on the fight, trying to get into shape before making any predictions or trash talking in public. Barrios too has some interviews but he didn't have any bad mouth to say at Thurman at this point. So both of them are playing safe, nevertheless as the fight gets closer some interesting words might be thrown by either of the side to bring more spice in this fight.
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January 16, 2022, 12:11:20 PM
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Thurman is taking a different approach in this fight and base on this interviews this is what he has to say specially about the demand for boxing for a PPV:

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“All other contact sports have found a way to reduce the contact in the sport. Not boxing. Not boxing, not UFC, because we are the original contact sport. We are the only real contact sport that is still alive, still living still breathing. yes, the referee will jump and stop the fight, yes the referee is in there to protect the fighter and fighters in today’s generation are taking a little bit less damage. But there is no sport like boxing. every punch to the head is a mild concussion. We know that. And so for me to be here to be speaking full sentences to you right now is a blessing from above.

“That’s why we’re going to keep striving, living this dream, putting ourselves on the line, knowing that one day we don’t know what’s gonna happen when we step out of the ring. I wanna see my family, I wanna hold my child, I want to be able to talk to her and talk to my family, but we don’t know. So when fighters say that they’re done, they’re done and we salute them and we respect them for what they put into this ring, you know?”

https://www.boxingscene.com/thurman-makes-case-pay-per-view-no-sport-like-boxing-every-punch-head-mild-concussion--163457

He also touch the subject that he is not done with the sports and that he still has some in his tank.

So we will see if this is true the fight will happen less than a month from now so for sure we fans are very excited for this fight.

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January 16, 2022, 12:31:57 PM
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And he will do everything to win again. It's an exemption fighting Pacman, now that the legend is out and earns the best experience in his career already, it's time for him to come back and start dominating again, giving the top-ranking welterweights a real challenge.
Well, all of the boxers will do everything to win most of their matches. For sure that Thurman is going to be well prepared on this but I'm missing the part that he's hyping his match just like what he did with his match against Pacman. He should do that and throw some interesting words against Barrios for them to get the interest of the crowd. I guess he has to do it so that the same attention will be given to him on this match.

Maybe he doesn't want to at this point because he has learnt his hard lessons from the Pacman fight.

Or maybe he is focusing first on the fight, trying to get into shape before making any predictions or trash talking in public. Barrios too has some interviews but he didn't have any bad mouth to say at Thurman at this point. So both of them are playing safe, nevertheless as the fight gets closer some interesting words might be thrown by either of the side to bring more spice in this fight.
I think it's part of his stunt with his match against Pacman and it did really help them to take as much attention as they did. The tickets were sold and it's probably one of the highest paychecks that he took.
It's possible that he's trying to get in shape first before proceeding with those words that will take the attention of everyone especially the fans of Barrios. That's really going to make a noise again if he does.

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January 16, 2022, 12:45:00 PM
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And he will do everything to win again. It's an exemption fighting Pacman, now that the legend is out and earns the best experience in his career already, it's time for him to come back and start dominating again, giving the top-ranking welterweights a real challenge.
Well, all of the boxers will do everything to win most of their matches. For sure that Thurman is going to be well prepared on this but I'm missing the part that he's hyping his match just like what he did with his match against Pacman. He should do that and throw some interesting words against Barrios for them to get the interest of the crowd. I guess he has to do it so that the same attention will be given to him on this match.

Maybe he doesn't want to at this point because he has learnt his hard lessons from the Pacman fight.

Or maybe he is focusing first on the fight, trying to get into shape before making any predictions or trash talking in public. Barrios too has some interviews but he didn't have any bad mouth to say at Thurman at this point. So both of them are playing safe, nevertheless as the fight gets closer some interesting words might be thrown by either of the side to bring more spice in this fight.
I think it's part of his stunt with his match against Pacman and it did really help them to take as much attention as they did. The tickets were sold and it's probably one of the highest paychecks that he took.
It's possible that he's trying to get in shape first before proceeding with those words that will take the attention of everyone especially the fans of Barrios. That's really going to make a noise again if he does.

Well, we shouldn't be surprised if this fight will be hype soon, we know that Thurman is a good marketing guy, trash talking is not new to him but at the end of the fight, he always does the most important thing which is the sportsmanship which other boxers doesn't have.  Since the odds are out already, I can tell that this is going to be a popular fight.

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January 16, 2022, 01:18:38 PM
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Since the odds are out already, I can tell that this is going to be a popular fight.

Some fights have the odds available only days before the fight, but this one we have early odds where we can check and we can put our bet at the same time. We have the consensus here and the majority are bettong on Thurman to win.

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Since the odds are out already, I can tell that this is going to be a popular fight.

Some fights have the odds available only days before the fight, but this one we have early odds where we can check and we can put our bet at the same time. We have the consensus here and the majority are bettong on Thurman to win.

The odds may change when the fight is close to the day, I would suggest not to bet, for now, stake.com has not even displayed their odd. Yes, this is a popular fight because both fighters possess titles in the past with a long list of winning streaks in the sport. Both are very experienced, I think this will be a very fair odd that there wouldn't be bookmakers' favorite.


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Since the odds are out already, I can tell that this is going to be a popular fight.

Some fights have the odds available only days before the fight, but this one we have early odds where we can check and we can put our bet at the same time. We have the consensus here and the majority are bettong on Thurman to win.

The odds may change when the fight is close to the day, I would suggest not to bet, for now, stake.com has not even displayed their odd. Yes, this is a popular fight because both fighters possess titles in the past with a long list of winning streaks in the sport. Both are very experienced, I think this will be a very fair odd that there wouldn't be bookmakers' favorite.

It's not displayed in stake yet but they have listed it already.
https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42417168-thurman-keith-barrios-mario

While Sportsbet already has the odds available, you can check and maybe bet on the site.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/thurman-keith-vs-barrios-mario-61d9b083a4e1ed2e58bb37bd

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January 16, 2022, 02:55:37 PM
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Since the odds are out already, I can tell that this is going to be a popular fight.

Some fights have the odds available only days before the fight, but this one we have early odds where we can check and we can put our bet at the same time. We have the consensus here and the majority are bettong on Thurman to win.

The odds may change when the fight is close to the day, I would suggest not to bet, for now, stake.com has not even displayed their odd. Yes, this is a popular fight because both fighters possess titles in the past with a long list of winning streaks in the sport. Both are very experienced, I think this will be a very fair odd that there wouldn't be bookmakers' favorite.

It's not displayed in stake yet but they have listed it already.
https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42417168-thurman-keith-barrios-mario

While Sportsbet already has the odds available, you can check and maybe bet on the site.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/thurman-keith-vs-barrios-mario-61d9b083a4e1ed2e58bb37bd

Every nice odds for Thurman, getting 1.58 is not that bad knowing how good he is in the ring.

Barrios had a good chance of winning against Davis in his previous fight but he was hurt so it did not go to the scorecards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL741-fh_J0

he only has 1 loss but with Thurman, I think it will be 2 soon.

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Thurman is sporsbet guy? There is no contest to that yet but I think because he is already in the division before Barrios climb up making him look as if the challenger. 2.24 is like undermining Barrios skills. Although he will be adjusting the body weight, Barrios is younger and eager to prove in this class while was off the grid from some time.


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Thurman is sporsbet guy? There is no contest to that yet but I think because he is already in the division before Barrios climb up making him look as if the challenger. 2.24 is like undermining Barrios skills. Although he will be adjusting the body weight, Barrios is younger and eager to prove in this class while was off the grid from some time.
Yeah, Thurman is the favorite but you can also choose Barrios if you feel he will win the fight. He got some skills that's why he only has one loss and that is against Davis which is a knockout puncher. Thurman is a mature guy in boxing and he also has a good KO percentage, so it's really up to you to weigh things and decide what fighter you'll put your bet.

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January 16, 2022, 08:31:11 PM
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I think it's part of his stunt with his match against Pacman and it did really help them to take as much attention as they did. The tickets were sold and it's probably one of the highest paychecks that he took.
It's possible that he's trying to get in shape first before proceeding with those words that will take the attention of everyone especially the fans of Barrios. That's really going to make a noise again if he does.

Well, we shouldn't be surprised if this fight will be hype soon, we know that Thurman is a good marketing guy, trash talking is not new to him but at the end of the fight, he always does the most important thing which is the sportsmanship which other boxers doesn't have.  Since the odds are out already, I can tell that this is going to be a popular fight.
Yeah, he's also a good salesman, and for sure that we might see some of those stunts just like he did way back then. Those words with trash talk he does are going to flame a lot of fans.
And for sure the sales for the tickets/PPV will be boosted by him. If that's what he has to do then for sure that he's going to do it no matter what the people will tell about him. Thus, he really needs to do that because there's the threat of the virus and people should just go avail the PPV that's going to be available for their match.

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January 16, 2022, 08:43:08 PM
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I think it's part of his stunt with his match against Pacman and it did really help them to take as much attention as they did. The tickets were sold and it's probably one of the highest paychecks that he took.
It's possible that he's trying to get in shape first before proceeding with those words that will take the attention of everyone especially the fans of Barrios. That's really going to make a noise again if he does.

Well, we shouldn't be surprised if this fight will be hype soon, we know that Thurman is a good marketing guy, trash talking is not new to him but at the end of the fight, he always does the most important thing which is the sportsmanship which other boxers doesn't have.  Since the odds are out already, I can tell that this is going to be a popular fight.
Yeah, he's also a good salesman, and for sure that we might see some of those stunts just like he did way back then. Those words with trash talk he does are going to flame a lot of fans.
And for sure the sales for the tickets/PPV will be boosted by him. If that's what he has to do then for sure that he's going to do it no matter what the people will tell about him. Thus, he really needs to do that because there's the threat of the virus and people should just go avail the PPV that's going to be available for their match.
If they will fight in the same venue, I think people are still allowed to go as long as they are already vaccinated. The implementation in the US is different compared to other countries despite they have a high number of virus infections, so I think both gate entrance and the PPV will boost if Thurman will start talking now.

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January 16, 2022, 10:08:11 PM
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Yeah, he's also a good salesman, and for sure that we might see some of those stunts just like he did way back then. Those words with trash talk he does are going to flame a lot of fans.
And for sure the sales for the tickets/PPV will be boosted by him. If that's what he has to do then for sure that he's going to do it no matter what the people will tell about him. Thus, he really needs to do that because there's the threat of the virus and people should just go avail the PPV that's going to be available for their match.
If they will fight in the same venue, I think people are still allowed to go as long as they are already vaccinated. The implementation in the US is different compared to other countries despite they have a high number of virus infections, so I think both gate entrance and the PPV will boost if Thurman will start talking now.
Yes, there goes the live audience and that's for sure going to be there but the sales and money are more with PPV. That's what they all know and that's why they have to increase the intensity for this match with his moves. We don't know, they might ask Thurman to do that soon if the sales aren't increasing in numbers. There would be people that will watch it live but for the conservative which is more of them, they'll choose to buy those PPV tickets instead.

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January 16, 2022, 10:32:07 PM
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Thurman is sporsbet guy? There is no contest to that yet but I think because he is already in the division before Barrios climb up making him look as if the challenger. 2.24 is like undermining Barrios skills. Although he will be adjusting the body weight, Barrios is younger and eager to prove in this class while was off the grid from some time.

Barrios @ 2.24 is even fair and not that he was really considered as a heavy underdog on that match. A heavy underdog was always on the odds of around @3.

Odds provider maybe thinks that Barrios can upset the Favorite Thurman, maybe because of the latter's inactivity and hiatus on boxing for 2 years. Less than a month to go before the fight, that speculation if Thurman will still be on his prime level on the day of the fight, will now be witnessed.

My take is Thurman winning by KO at rounds 6-7.

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January 16, 2022, 11:50:34 PM
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If they will fight in the same venue, I think people are still allowed to go as long as they are already vaccinated. The implementation in the US is different compared to other countries despite they have a high number of virus infections, so I think both gate entrance and the PPV will boost if Thurman will start talking now.

Aside from New York, no states prohibit sports activities without a vaccine. But that was a mandatory requirement now.

Since the fight is a comeback of Thurman, I also think that the gate entrance and PPV will earn much. Others want to see how Thurman looks right now and if he still has that fierce action on the ring.

A loss to Barrios means Thurman is done now. I think if that happened, Thurman will retire.
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January 16, 2022, 11:54:03 PM
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If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

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If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

Definitely a very good lesson for him as a boxer when he lost to Pacquiao. With that fight, I believe he realized that age doesn't matter, it depends on how strong you are and how prepared you are as a fighter. And with that in mind, maybe, one of the reasons why he is motivated to continue his fight inside the ring. If Thurman wins, he will regain the confidence of his fans and maybe, we will see bigger fight after this.
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If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

Definitely a very good lesson for him as a boxer when he lost to Pacquiao. With that fight, I believe he realized that age doesn't matter, it depends on how strong you are and how prepared you are as a fighter. And with that in mind, maybe, one of the reasons why he is motivated to continue his fight inside the ring. If Thurman wins, he will regain the confidence of his fans and maybe, we will see bigger fight after this.

He did prepare for that fight, unfortunately, Manny is the better fighter that night. Thurman tries to come back but Manny is stronger on the later rounds.

So definitely a lesson learned for him, not to underestimate his opponent and really focus and if you trash talk, better know how to back it up because if you lost, it's going to be a long road to come back. For him it took him 2 years to finally get over. So we will see if he still what it takes to be with the best in the division.

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January 17, 2022, 03:54:45 PM
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He did prepare for that fight, unfortunately, Manny is the better fighter that night. Thurman tries to come back but Manny is stronger on the later rounds.

So definitely a lesson learned for him, not to underestimate his opponent and really focus and if you trash talk, better know how to back it up because if you lost, it's going to be a long road to come back. For him it took him 2 years to finally get over. So we will see if he still what it takes to be with the best in the division.

He did everything but Manny still have that strength to overpower him, even he tried to push back but the earlier knock down counts a lot for that win, maybe this time he will start early and make sure that he will not repeat that mistake, he's still in his good form even he went away for some time.

He needs to be more focus if he wanted to come back, as we all know that boxing got a huge money making sports.

If he wanted that luxury he needs to win this one and start to bring his name back in line.. Roll Eyes Tongue

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January 17, 2022, 08:32:40 PM
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He did prepare for that fight, unfortunately, Manny is the better fighter that night. Thurman tries to come back but Manny is stronger on the later rounds.

So definitely a lesson learned for him, not to underestimate his opponent and really focus and if you trash talk, better know how to back it up because if you lost, it's going to be a long road to come back. For him it took him 2 years to finally get over. So we will see if he still what it takes to be with the best in the division.

He did everything but Manny still have that strength to overpower him, even he tried to push back but the earlier knock down counts a lot for that win, maybe this time he will start early and make sure that he will not repeat that mistake, he's still in his good form even he went away for some time.

He needs to be more focus if he wanted to come back, as we all know that boxing got a huge money making sports.

If he wanted that luxury he needs to win this one and start to bring his name back in line.. Roll Eyes Tongue

He was aware that Manny has the power to knock him out so he was not so aggressive at the start, but with this opponent, I think he will not hesitate to show his skills and as much as possible end the fight early to create hype on the news. Thurman is a big name in the sports of boxing, if he wasn't defeated by Pacman, he could still be at the top ranking, so we should not underestimate him as he is on the same level as Spence and Crawford.

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January 17, 2022, 08:58:08 PM
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If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future, that will be a very good treat to all their boxing fans.
So now, Thurman should really win this fight and accept more challenges before he goes out of the limelight.
We will know who will be the one reigning in their division in the next years' to come. Also, there's upcoming Spence vs Ugas, so let's see.
I hope their respective promoters will not avoid each other, and wait til one of the boxers is older to let the fight happen.
Just look at what happen with Pacquiao vs Mayweather. They should have fought in their younger years.
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If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

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January 17, 2022, 09:38:34 PM
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If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

That's an exciting fight, majority are on Spence to win, but Ugas is really a tough champion, he hasn't been KO in his past losses so I can say that he is a durable fighter who could give Spence his first loss then he will be out of the top boxers in the ranking.

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Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.
He has an easier journey, but now that his contract with Top rank is over, he can get a more challenging fight to push his limit.

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If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

That's an exciting fight, majority are on Spence to win, but Ugas is really a tough champion, he hasn't been KO in his past losses so I can say that he is a durable fighter who could give Spence his first loss then he will be out of the top boxers in the ranking.

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Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.
He has an easier journey, but now that his contract with Top rank is over, he can get a more challenging fight to push his limit.

But for now, it will take at least a year or two before we see both boxers at the subject (Thurman or Barrios) to challenge either Spence, Ugas, or Crawford. Those 3 are expected to face each other this year to settle anything at Welterweight division.

My speculation is, if Thurman will win here, he won't go directly to a big challenge next. There will be at least 1-2 boxers on the mid-tier rank he will probably requested to fight instead of jumping right away to those in top. He can do that all this year.

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January 18, 2022, 02:01:52 PM
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If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

That's an exciting fight, majority are on Spence to win, but Ugas is really a tough champion, he hasn't been KO in his past losses so I can say that he is a durable fighter who could give Spence his first loss then he will be out of the top boxers in the ranking.

_____________

Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.
He has an easier journey, but now that his contract with Top rank is over, he can get a more challenging fight to push his limit.

But for now, it will take at least a year or two before we see both boxers at the subject (Thurman or Barrios) to challenge either Spence, Ugas, or Crawford. Those 3 are expected to face each other this year to settle anything at Welterweight division.

My speculation is, if Thurman will win here, he won't go directly to a big challenge next. There will be at least 1-2 boxers on the mid-tier rank he will probably requested to fight instead of jumping right away to those in top. He can do that all this year.

His main purpose is to have a championship fight, so if he is given a chance, I'm sure he will grab it. Honestly, I have doubts that the Spence vs Crawford fight will happen anytime soon, why? because if they want to fight each other, it could have happen years ago.

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January 18, 2022, 02:30:04 PM
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If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future, that will be a very good treat to all their boxing fans.
So now, Thurman should really win this fight and accept more challenges before he goes out of the limelight.
We will know who will be the one reigning in their division in the next years' to come. Also, there's upcoming Spence vs Ugas, so let's see.
I hope their respective promoters will not avoid each other, and wait til one of the boxers is older to let the fight happen.
Just look at what happen with Pacquiao vs Mayweather. They should have fought in their younger years.

Well for boxing promoters, this is business so we don't know if they are willing to put up a classic fight for the fans like unification because this promoters wanted to milk their fighters. Just like what you mentioned, Pacman and Mayweather didn't fight until there are in the downside of their career or at least when they are in their primes.

And there are a lot of names right now, Crawford, Spence are the top 2 and then we have Ugas. So Thurman will have to fight all this guys if he wants to unify the belt.

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January 18, 2022, 03:17:42 PM
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Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.


Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite... Wink Roll Eyes


I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Something that has always caught my attention is boxing statistics because they are rarely wrong, years ago when I went to watch a fight, I was based on the preparation of each boxer, how hard was their training, what their coaches talked about. of them and everything that had to do with their physical preparation, of course this has to do with the assessment of each athlete. For now, the domain belongs to Thurman and I think it will continue to be the case, if we take these numbers into account they are very strong, however I have a lot of doubt about Barrios because he may surprise.


You will not be able to put your bet if you have doubts, you have to understand that this is gambling, we can bet and hope we win as we may also be wrong. For me, I would always choose Thurman, win or lose, no regret because that's my decision and I'm confident with it.

You are right, I have seen in several forums that have to do with sports, and especially with Boxing, I clearly see that there is a lot of favoritism in betting in favor of Thurman, what I have noticed is that most of the time the who have the bets in their favor end up winning, there is very little probability that they will lose, of course I am looking at this from a mathematical point of view and leaving aside another criterion, whether it is watching videos on YouTube of fans or something like that, that really sometimes they tend to interfere in making a decision, or in a sports program on TV, which is also something valid.

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Well for boxing promoters, this is business so we don't know if they are willing to put up a classic fight for the fans like unification because this promoters wanted to milk their fighters. Just like what you mentioned, Pacman and Mayweather didn't fight until there are in the downside of their career or at least when they are in their primes.

And there are a lot of names right now, Crawford, Spence are the top 2 and then we have Ugas. So Thurman will have to fight all this guys if he wants to unify the belt.


He needs to wait though, after Spence and Ugas, whoever loses that fight might be a good stepping stone for him after winning from his fight.

We know that promoters love to see fans calling for their champs, and with the help of social medias, it can easily hype it up and bring noises,

there are fans that will eagerly call for Thurman to face anyone with his same class, still got a lot of time for him, he just need to win this one

and the rest will be on its way.. Wink
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Well for boxing promoters, this is business so we don't know if they are willing to put up a classic fight for the fans like unification because this promoters wanted to milk their fighters. Just like what you mentioned, Pacman and Mayweather didn't fight until there are in the downside of their career or at least when they are in their primes.

And there are a lot of names right now, Crawford, Spence are the top 2 and then we have Ugas. So Thurman will have to fight all this guys if he wants to unify the belt.


He needs to wait though, after Spence and Ugas, whoever loses that fight might be a good stepping stone for him after winning from his fight.

We know that promoters love to see fans calling for their champs, and with the help of social medias, it can easily hype it up and bring noises,

there are fans that will eagerly call for Thurman to face anyone with his same class, still got a lot of time for him, he just need to win this one

and the rest will be on its way.. Wink
Needed up some sort of conditioning his body and would back on his track and by winning this upcoming fight would be the way on doing that but the next fight schedule would be always questionable
specially if we are on this pandemic situation which it is really hard to determine on where it would end up which it did really affect any industries out there in terms of
fight postponement and reschedules.
Thurman though shouldn't really be that confident yet Barrios isnt something that would easily be beaten up imho.

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Very interesting statement coming from Keith Thurman himself. During his interview with Ray Flores in "Time Out With Ray Flores", he says that this fight might be a WBC title eliminator match.

So what it means is that the winner of this fight might go up against the winner of Spence vs Ugas winner. Very interesting so we will see how will it turn out.

Go forward to 21:06 if you don't want to listen to the full interview:

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^^ What a revelation from Thurman, it might be a eliminator and might be they are in next in line for the winner of Ugas and Spence.

However, we have to think that Ugas vs Spence also involves other organisations belt not just WBC, so WBC might sanction it but other bodies might not.

So that statement might not be true at all, maybe Thurman just want to hype the fight with this subtle small talk.

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WBC Pres Sulaiman said it's not final

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“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

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“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Maybe Thurman shouldn't let the public know, so we don't know what he blurted out that information in public when everything is not final yet.

So maybe WBC will now says otherwise, so they could have lost that chance to be the next fighter against the winner of the Spence Jr vs Ugas. Sometimes it's better to keep our mouth shut and let the WBC tells it to the public. Now Keith derails all the plans.
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WBC Pres Sulaiman said it's not final

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“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Maybe Thurman shouldn't let the public know, so we don't know what he blurted out that information in public when everything is not final yet.

So maybe WBC will now says otherwise, so they could have lost that chance to be the next fighter against the winner of the Spence Jr vs Ugas. Sometimes it's better to keep our mouth shut and let the WBC tells it to the public. Now Keith derails all the plans.

I agree, there should be information like this that shouldn't be shared to the public media and he should keep it for himself after the fight. And it might have jeopardize the potential fight in the future.

But he really need to win first against Barrios and it should be impressive before WBC will allow the winner to fight either Ugas and Spence for their belt.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Ok, it make sense from WBC to somewhat deny this statement from Thurman and says it is not final.

But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking this could be a eliminator indeed and they will make it official after the fight or maybe after Thurman wins. If ever Barrios win though, I think it will be shelve back by WBC. So they want Thurman to win and face the winner of the Ugas and Spence.

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I agree, there should be information like this that shouldn't be shared to the public media and he should keep it for himself after the fight. And it might have jeopardize the potential fight in the future.

But he really need to win first against Barrios and it should be impressive before WBC will allow the winner to fight either Ugas and Spence for their belt.

He maybe use this statement to bring interest to this upcoming fight, but like what you said, it may jeopardize his future potential fight.

Just like how WBC denies his statement, instead of possibilities they might change the plan and reward that title fight to other aspirant.

Better to finish what's in front of you before jumping or talking to something else. Once you have done, let fate journey you to your

next destination, we never know and for sure Barrios is also interested to climb his way up Wink
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He maybe use this statement to bring interest to this upcoming fight, but like what you said, it may jeopardize his future potential fight.
It's the likely case on this one but I am pretty sure that he shouldn't have disclosed the information nonetheless especially if it's not finalized and it will definitely jeopardize that planned event or in a twist of things, we might see them continue and make things much more extravagant as they might think that people might expect much more.



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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

I think Thurman would win in this fight too because he has an age advantage over Barrios which could be his edge over their upcoming fight. The fight is just a few weeks from now and he could definitely bag the title and belt if and only if he really trained well and he tried to learn the ways of Barrios in fighting such as predicting his opponent's next move strike of punch, defense, footwork, and speed. Although I would not like to discredit and invalidate the skills of a professional who is known to be in boxing for a long time already considering his age. Surely this would still be a challenge for Thurman before he will be able to achieve his goal - to win. Hopefully, they would give us an exciting and thrilling performance inside the arena. The announced date is on February 5, so for those fans of both players, be ready to witness their battle and may the best boxer really win.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Ok, it make sense from WBC to somewhat deny this statement from Thurman and says it is not final.

But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking this could be a eliminator indeed and they will make it official after the fight or maybe after Thurman wins. If ever Barrios win though, I think it will be shelve back by WBC. So they want Thurman to win and face the winner of the Ugas and Spence.

I'd love that, Thurman could be a problem for Spence due to his great boxing skills. I think Spence could beat Ugas, but if he will look for a bigger fight, he might not be able to fight Thurman as unification is more interesting than fighting a challenger. It's hard to predict, anything could happen, but either way, these boxers are fun to watch.

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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

I think Thurman would win in this fight too because he has an age advantage over Barrios which could be his edge over their upcoming fight. The fight is just a few weeks from now and he could definitely bag the title and belt if and only if he really trained well and he tried to learn the ways of Barrios in fighting such as predicting his opponent's next move strike of punch, defense, footwork, and speed. Although I would not like to discredit and invalidate the skills of a professional who is known to be in boxing for a long time already considering his age. Surely this would still be a challenge for Thurman before he will be able to achieve his goal - to win. Hopefully, they would give us an exciting and thrilling performance inside the arena. The announced date is on February 5, so for those fans of both players, be ready to witness their battle and may the best boxer really win.
Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.

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January 21, 2022, 09:45:33 PM
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His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

I think Thurman would win in this fight too because he has an age advantage over Barrios which could be his edge over their upcoming fight. The fight is just a few weeks from now and he could definitely bag the title and belt if and only if he really trained well and he tried to learn the ways of Barrios in fighting such as predicting his opponent's next move strike of punch, defense, footwork, and speed. Although I would not like to discredit and invalidate the skills of a professional who is known to be in boxing for a long time already considering his age. Surely this would still be a challenge for Thurman before he will be able to achieve his goal - to win. Hopefully, they would give us an exciting and thrilling performance inside the arena. The announced date is on February 5, so for those fans of both players, be ready to witness their battle and may the best boxer really win.
Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
I'm sure he still has the power, he always backs his words just like his fight with Pacman. He talks trashed a lot but he performs really well in the ring, it's just unfortunate for him that he lose in that fight. However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

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However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.

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However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.

Yes, this will be Thurman's stepping stone to make a come back and put his name in the mix again. Several years ago, he was the champion and considered to be the best welterweight until he gets injured and the landscape has change.

And with a big lost against Manny, his dreams and ambitions have been derailed. But it seems his interest has return again and wanted to reclaim his name and become a champion again. So a win against Barrios will be his first step and then he can talk about Spence and Crawford next.

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Keith Thurman shouldn’t be on PPV against Mario Barrios

What can you say about these guys?

There are speculations that PPV buys won't that much that's why for Thurman to regain again his popularity, it should be aired on regular FOX, not with PPV. The cost of PPV is about $74 and providing Thurman didn't fight for almost 3 years, there are doubts if there will be more people that will watch the fight.

I like what the article is pointing out and that makes sense. Please read.

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Yes, this will be Thurman's stepping stone to make a come back and put his name in the mix again. Several years ago, he was the champion and considered to be the best welterweight until he gets injured and the landscape has change.

If ever he wins on that match against Barios, he needs another stepping stone on his next fight.

He can't just go directly against Spence Jr, Ugas, or Crawford.

Maybe he can ask for a rematch with Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter. But before we discussed that, let's wait first on the result of this match. I doubt we are expecting the usual Thurman here before he fought Pacquiao. Let's not expect that for a boxer that is not active for long.
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However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.

I know it's not a championship fight, but whoever wins this fight will have a chance to fight a champion, and I am with you on your prediction that Thurman will win here. Thurman may not be as active as Crawford, but I think if he would challenge Crawford and the champion agrees, it will be a hell of a fight and I'm not sure if Crawford will dominate.

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January 22, 2022, 06:02:56 PM
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However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.

I know it's not a championship fight, but whoever wins this fight will have a chance to fight a champion, and I am with you on your prediction that Thurman will win here. Thurman may not be as active as Crawford, but I think if he would challenge Crawford and the champion agrees, it will be a hell of a fight and I'm not sure if Crawford will dominate.
That would be an amazing fight if ever Crawford's camp agree instead of fighting the winner between Spence Jr and Ugas, we are looking on the future but eventually it may happen in case that Crawford will choose Thurman after he accomplished his fight against Barrios, for now, to step forward Thurman needs to win a convincing KO or a huge margin from the scorecard.

It will hype him up, but if controversy happened, if Barrios snatches this one from him, the chance to regain his glory might be over.

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January 22, 2022, 06:07:33 PM
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Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight

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Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.

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Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.

Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.

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Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.

Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.

Not only the bookies will win, but there are also some bettors who would bet on Barrios as not everyone is convinced that Thurman will win. The more active fighter here is Barriors, and Thurman is coming from a long lay off, so the ring rust might affect his performance.

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Not only the bookies will win, but there are also some bettors who would bet on Barrios as not everyone is convinced that Thurman will win. The more active fighter here is Barriors, and Thurman is coming from a long lay off, so the ring rust might affect his performance.
Bookies will always win but not from the bet of the gamblers as they just only accept bets or a 3rd party to hold our bets and they make money from commissions, they don't bear the risk of being a sports book as they always make money from the juice of the gamblers. Also, they have the edge, so even if you will bet on parlay or whatever style of betting you have, you'll never take advantage on them.

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Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.

Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.

Not only the bookies will win, but there are also some bettors who would bet on Barrios as not everyone is convinced that Thurman will win. The more active fighter here is Barriors, and Thurman is coming from a long lay off, so the ring rust might affect his performance.

Barrios has also been consistent in his fights and though others are underestimating him, I have no doubt that he'll do good preparation to beat Thurman in possible ways he knows. It will be challenging for him but I guess it will also be an opportunity to prove himself more.
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^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be really preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him. And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
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Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.
absolutely true, indirectly this match can bridge to a higher direction later on the other hand, it is certain that this victory is proof that they are ready for it.
speaking of support, we are on the same side and this would be a great bet to make.
Of course Thurman's advantage will be greater when compared to Barrios

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^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be really preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him. And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
That was a good win by Magsayo, and yes I believe in upset as I bet on Magsayo on that fight with Rusell. well, in this fight, I'm with the favorite here as I'm a fan of Thurman and I believe he can teach Barrios a lesson on how to be clever in boxing. This is going to be his come back fight, I'm sure Thurman would also not gonna take this fight lightly.

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Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.
What the bookies do in the case there is a very heavy favorite is to begin to offer huge odds for the other party so people feel more compelled to make a bet for them, however this can play against them as it was in the case of the first Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz won and the casinos lost a lot of money as they were giving him huge odds, however most of the time this is not what happens, so even if they have an event in which they lose money they can easily recover it with the rest of the events they offer to their customers.
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Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.
What the bookies do in the case there is a very heavy favorite is to begin to offer huge odds for the other party so people feel more compelled to make a bet for them, however this can play against them as it was in the case of the first Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz won and the casinos lost a lot of money as they were giving him huge odds, however most of the time this is not what happens, so even if they have an event in which they lose money they can easily recover it with the rest of the events they offer to their customers.
Bookies use some algorithm, they balance the odds very well so there's money on both sides of the bets. If you see some odds changes, that means they are just trying to balance something, so if you are smart and you bet early and later the odds changes on your favor, that's a good sign that you were able to get a good value the time you put your bet.



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Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.

The betting market on that match will probably be huge, if not, still decent. Regardless of the result, bookies are no doubt in profits.

Generally, in most cases, odds are adjusted depending on how many bets were already placed on a certain pick. Here in Thurman vs Barrios, even without the odds adjusted, bookies will surely profit.

And not just that, the betting options are not limited only to who will win. There are other options where gamblers will place their bet. That will contribute to the overall profit of the bookies.

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January 23, 2022, 09:57:14 PM
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^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be really preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him.

He wanted to climb up, and Thurman was his key to success. This path is too tight though as he is new to this division while Thurman was a former champ and very fit to this class.

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And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
He can use that fight as inspiration, If Magsayo able to beat a defending champ he also has that chance, it will be more on how to prepare he is when facing Thurman and what kind of strategy his camp provides him in order to push Thurman to his limits.

If they have good scouting, they can enhance the part of whatever lapses Thurman has.

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January 23, 2022, 11:51:29 PM
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^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be really preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him.

He wanted to climb up, and Thurman was his key to success. This path is too tight though as he is new to this division while Thurman was a former champ and very fit to this class.

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And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
He can use that fight as inspiration, If Magsayo able to beat a defending champ he also has that chance, it will be more on how to prepare he is when facing Thurman and what kind of strategy his camp provides him in order to push Thurman to his limits.

If they have good scouting, they can enhance the part of whatever lapses Thurman has.

Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.
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This is going to be his come back fight, I'm sure Thurman would also not gonna take this fight lightly.

He really should. A loss during a comeback is not a good sign anymore to continue boxing. It's already expected too that he should handle Barrios, not via KnockOut but showing dominance the whole fight.

On the other hand, Barrios is on the mission too. He won't allow having a second-loss streak on his career as it will result in him fighting with a good-rank boxer.

The fight is just around the corner. We will now see them in action.


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January 24, 2022, 03:31:14 AM
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He really should. A loss during a comeback is not a good sign anymore to continue boxing. It's already expected too that he should handle Barrios, not via KnockOut but showing dominance the whole fight. On the other hand, Barrios is on the mission too. He won't allow having a second-loss streak on his career as it will result in him fighting with a good-rank boxer. The fight is just around the corner. We will now see them in action.

This should become his best performance and making his opponent look like an amateur is the best thing he can do since Thurman is one of the best boxers before his injury, I'm sure he already recovered and he can execute his fast and powerful punch easily right now to dominate the fight. 12 days to go before the fight and this will be the most exciting so far since Thurman is a showman that would make the fans want to see him talk before the fight and showcase his skills in the ring.

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January 24, 2022, 12:09:15 PM
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Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.
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Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.

What was the injury you are talking about? I can't remember about his injury after he fought Pacman, I think he looks great on Pacman's fight, it's just that Pacman did better so he won via split decision. What Thurman needs going to his fight is a proper training, he has the skills and talent already, he just need to condition himself to win.

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January 24, 2022, 03:28:16 PM
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Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.

What was the injury you are talking about? I can't remember about his injury after he fought Pacman, I think he looks great on Pacman's fight, it's just that Pacman did better so he won via split decision. What Thurman needs going to his fight is a proper training, he has the skills and talent already, he just need to condition himself to win.
The only injury I had remember with Thurman after the Pacquiao fight is in his hand. That's one reason why he went out after that lost to Manny to get his hands operate and let it fully heal as we all know that our bones in our hands are brittle.

There are even news that he has rib injury as well weeks before the Manny fight that's why when Manny hits him in the side and in the body, Thurman is affecting and you can see because he backs up and then started to cover his stomach.

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January 24, 2022, 06:27:02 PM
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Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.

And for us to know which fighter who really prepared well meeting inside the ring will be the best venue, Thurman has that advantage
not because of the bookies or the influence of bookies, but because he's more familiar with in this weight division, he can simply build
the stamina that he needs and all those workouts before he rests from the ring, he can comeback and do the drills.

Barrios is more pressure since he's the one who climbs up and challenge Thurman from this division. We will see what he added to
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Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.

What was the injury you are talking about? I can't remember about his injury after he fought Pacman, I think he looks great on Pacman's fight, it's just that Pacman did better so he won via split decision. What Thurman needs going to his fight is a proper training, he has the skills and talent already, he just need to condition himself to win.
The only injury I had remember with Thurman after the Pacquiao fight is in his hand. That's one reason why he went out after that lost to Manny to get his hands operate and let it fully heal as we all know that our bones in our hands are brittle.

There are even news that he has rib injury as well weeks before the Manny fight that's why when Manny hits him in the side and in the body, Thurman is affecting and you can see because he backs up and then started to cover his stomach.

Thanks, that's a clear explanation, now I know why he was out for awhile. Well, now that he is back, I expect that he is fully healed and he can be his old self again. Thurman is going to reclaim his popular status, losing against Pacman, a legend isn't that bad because it was a close one, but if he still loses here, then I think it will be hard for him to become a champ again.

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He really should. A loss during a comeback is not a good sign anymore to continue boxing. It's already expected too that he should handle Barrios, not via KnockOut but showing dominance the whole fight. On the other hand, Barrios is on the mission too. He won't allow having a second-loss streak on his career as it will result in him fighting with a good-rank boxer. The fight is just around the corner. We will now see them in action.

This should become his best performance and making his opponent look like an amateur is the best thing he can do since Thurman is one of the best boxers before his injury, I'm sure he already recovered and he can execute his fast and powerful punch easily right now to dominate the fight. 12 days to go before the fight and this will be the most exciting so far since Thurman is a showman that would make the fans want to see him talk before the fight and showcase his skills in the ring.

To be able to keep up with Pacman that shows he got the skills, he fought with the legend, got knockdown but rise to continue the fight and he was even winning in the later rounds. The Thurman I saw in that fight is really strong, that's why against Barrios, I think he will dominate here and will make some noise in the boxing industry again, and when that happened, a big fight will then be waiting for him.

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The Thurman I saw in that fight is really strong, that's why against Barrios, I think he will dominate here and will make some noise in the boxing industry again, and when that happened, a big fight will then be waiting for him.

But some boxing analyst are not looking the same situation.

It's really at disadvantage to not fight within 3 years. It's far different according to them that a boxer is fighting in an actual match compare to continous training. Barriors is the underdog but he is active compare to Thurman.

There's also I read that Thurman is not the same as before. But these are all just speculations and we will see if Thurman is really rusty on the date of the event.
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Both Thurman and Barrios will be looking to bounce back from their first career defeat with a victory in the february 5 statement to get them back on track for another world title. Keith Thurman and Mario Barrios will try their best to get a big win in this fight but Thurman is becoming a much stronger, mightier warrior than Barrios our hearts pump better when we take on challenges. Fighting in training will enable you to fight an established welterweight against an easy opponent.
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Preparation is the key here for both boxers. Thurman is the favorite by bookies.
But yes, upset can happen to any boxer. Just look at the recent Russell vs Magsayo match.
So now, we will see how prepared both of them when they are inside the ring.
We don't know what kind of training and strategies are they preparing for this fight.
But I may favor Thurman here to be the winner of his comeback fight.

Even in any fighter preparation is definitely one of their keys to successfully winning their fights. I do hope Thurman have had fully recovered from his injury and yeah he is also my bet in this upcoming fight not just because he is the favorite by the bookies but also because this man is a good fighter. May this upcoming fight be his good comeback fight though I can't set aside that Barrios is such a good fighter too and probably this man did his best also to prepare for this fight.

What was the injury you are talking about? I can't remember about his injury after he fought Pacman, I think he looks great on Pacman's fight, it's just that Pacman did better so he won via split decision. What Thurman needs going to his fight is a proper training, he has the skills and talent already, he just need to condition himself to win.
The only injury I had remember with Thurman after the Pacquiao fight is in his hand. That's one reason why he went out after that lost to Manny to get his hands operate and let it fully heal as we all know that our bones in our hands are brittle.

There are even news that he has rib injury as well weeks before the Manny fight that's why when Manny hits him in the side and in the body, Thurman is affecting and you can see because he backs up and then started to cover his stomach.

Thanks, that's a clear explanation, now I know why he was out for awhile. Well, now that he is back, I expect that he is fully healed and he can be his old self again. Thurman is going to reclaim his popular status, losing against Pacman, a legend isn't that bad because it was a close one, but if he still loses here, then I think it will be hard for him to become a champ again.
True, we can give him a pass on losing against Pacman, Manny was a legend and maybe it was Manny's night to win against Thurman because he still has it that time.

So no excuse for Thurman if he losses against Barrios, nothing against Barrios but we all know that he lost against a 140 lbs in Tank Davis and that is not even Tank's weight class. And now he try to move up and face one true legit Welterweight in Thurman.

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So no excuse for Thurman if he losses against Barrios, nothing against Barrios but we all know that he lost against a 140 lbs in Tank Davis and that is not even Tank's weight class. And now he try to move up and face one true legit Welterweight in Thurman.
That means his career would not be as attractive as before, he needs to win this fight to prove to the world that he can still come back as a champion, this might not be a championship fight but it's a big fight for him as it can be his stepping stone to get a championship fight again.

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^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him. And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
That was a good win by Magsayo, and yes I believe in upset as I bet on Magsayo on that fight with Rusell. well, in this fight, I'm with the favorite here as I'm a fan of Thurman and I believe he can teach Barrios a lesson on how to be clever in boxing. This is going to be his come back to fight, I'm sure Thurman would also not gonna take this fight lightly.
Yes you are right and the big win for magsayo even if not by KO at least he win and the style was effective the,  in and out with one-two combinations are effective against Russell but I was amazed by Russell cause his stamina is very strong and the bode was full of energy until the end of the fight. Back to this fight we all thurman is one of the best boxer in his division and I am assure than he can win this fight against barrios. This fight ill bet Thurman.

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^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him. And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
That was a good win by Magsayo, and yes I believe in upset as I bet on Magsayo on that fight with Rusell. well, in this fight, I'm with the favorite here as I'm a fan of Thurman and I believe he can teach Barrios a lesson on how to be clever in boxing. This is going to be his come back to fight, I'm sure Thurman would also not gonna take this fight lightly.
Yes you are right and the big win for magsayo even if not by KO at least he win and the style was effective the,  in and out with one-two combinations are effective against Russell but I was amazed by Russell cause his stamina is very strong and the bode was full of energy until the end of the fight. Back to this fight we all thurman is one of the best boxer in his division and I am assure than he can win this fight against barrios. This fight ill bet Thurman.
I would be betting on Thurman on here and when it comes to technicality on how they would fight then Thurman does have the lead.Yes, barrios could really possibly pull out some upset on this one but it wont be easy.

Try to look on past fights of Thurman which this one is really hard to beat up and when it comes to stamina then guy do have it and even he stopped for a while or doesnt have fight but doesnt mean that
he already forgotten how to box. LOL!  Cheesy

He shouldnt take Barrios lightly though yet upsets could really be just in the corner.

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January 26, 2022, 03:30:36 AM
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^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him. And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
That was a good win by Magsayo, and yes I believe in upset as I bet on Magsayo on that fight with Rusell. well, in this fight, I'm with the favorite here as I'm a fan of Thurman and I believe he can teach Barrios a lesson on how to be clever in boxing. This is going to be his come back to fight, I'm sure Thurman would also not gonna take this fight lightly.
Yes you are right and the big win for magsayo even if not by KO at least he win and the style was effective the,  in and out with one-two combinations are effective against Russell but I was amazed by Russell cause his stamina is very strong and the bode was full of energy until the end of the fight. Back to this fight we all thurman is one of the best boxer in his division and I am assure than he can win this fight against barrios. This fight ill bet Thurman.
I would be betting on Thurman on here and when it comes to technicality on how they would fight then Thurman does have the lead.Yes, barrios could really possibly pull out some upset on this one but it wont be easy.

Try to look on past fights of Thurman which this one is really hard to beat up and when it comes to stamina then guy do have it and even he stopped for a while or doesnt have fight but doesnt mean that
he already forgotten how to box. LOL!  Cheesy

He shouldnt take Barrios lightly though yet upsets could really be just in the corner.

I was just thinking if Barrios would have upset Thurman, he should have more power and the speed. That's how Manny beat Thurman with speed. But I doubt that Barrios possesses both specially the speed and quickness. So it's really a slim chance for an upset. But who knows, we really not sure if Thurman is not affected by ring rust, which could be a good factor as well in this fight.

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January 26, 2022, 12:53:43 PM
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^^ Barrios may have power in 140 lbs, but it is not tested on 147 lbs yet and the other way around, what if a true welterweight with power like Thurman hits him in the first time? What will be his reaction then?

So a lot of questions in this fight really, a lot of speculations. However, for us who have been following boxing for so long, we are somewhat going to favor Thurman over Barrios and I personally is thinking that it is possible for Thurman to score a knock out.
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January 26, 2022, 04:14:32 PM
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^^ Barrios may have power in 140 lbs, but it is not tested on 147 lbs yet and the other way around, what if a true welterweight with power like Thurman hits him in the first time? What will be his reaction then?

So a lot of questions in this fight really, a lot of speculations. However, for us who have been following boxing for so long, we are somewhat going to favor Thurman over Barrios and I personally is thinking that it is possible for Thurman to score a knock out.

He's more capable the trainings and drills are all designed for this division, it's easier for him to condition his body,

while with Barrios, this was something that every fighter wanted to achieve, climb up and make a name to increase his popularities

and take more money fight if in case upset happened in this fight.

Too early but like what most of us here, favor to Thurman is really something that not just bookies but bettors will be eyeing and

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January 26, 2022, 06:31:47 PM
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^^ Barrios may have power in 140 lbs, but it is not tested on 147 lbs yet and the other way around, what if a true welterweight with power like Thurman hits him in the first time? What will be his reaction then?

So a lot of questions in this fight really, a lot of speculations. However, for us who have been following boxing for so long, we are somewhat going to favor Thurman over Barrios and I personally is thinking that it is possible for Thurman to score a knock out.
Yes they are the same have a power punch that can knock out their opponents but we will saw all the statistics of the fighter then we can say that this fighter has a chance to this match.
Barrios had a speed that can hit thurman in any sides any time but for sure thurman had a plan for that and he can do anything to avoid hitting by barriers.

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^^ Barrios may have power in 140 lbs, but it is not tested on 147 lbs yet and the other way around, what if a true welterweight with power like Thurman hits him in the first time? What will be his reaction then?

So a lot of questions in this fight really, a lot of speculations. However, for us who have been following boxing for so long, we are somewhat going to favor Thurman over Barrios and I personally is thinking that it is possible for Thurman to score a knock out.
Yes they are the same have a power punch that can knock out their opponents but we will saw all the statistics of the fighter then we can say that this fighter has a chance to this match.
Barrios had a speed that can hit thurman in any sides any time but for sure thurman had a plan for that and he can do anything to avoid hitting by barriers.
That speed is important when Fighting Thurman because the latter is very smart, Manny uses that strategy to him so Thurman loses the fight. We have to notice as well that Thurman has a strong body, although he was knockdown early in the fight he was able to get up, now that he is fully healed, I can see it will not be an easy job for Barrios to beat him.

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January 26, 2022, 09:17:07 PM
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^^ Barrios may have power in 140 lbs, but it is not tested on 147 lbs yet and the other way around, what if a true welterweight with power like Thurman hits him in the first time? What will be his reaction then?

So a lot of questions in this fight really, a lot of speculations. However, for us who have been following boxing for so long, we are somewhat going to favor Thurman over Barrios and I personally is thinking that it is possible for Thurman to score a knock out.

He's more capable the trainings and drills are all designed for this division, it's easier for him to condition his body,

while with Barrios, this was something that every fighter wanted to achieve, climb up and make a name to increase his popularities

and take more money fight if in case upset happened in this fight.

Too early but like what most of us here, favor to Thurman is really something that not just bookies but bettors will be eyeing and

gamble with their money.

Mostly, the popular boxer will get the better odds or the favorite to win the fight, in this fight, we know who is the popular boxer although no one of the two is a champion. We stick with what we think and bet on the boxer we believe will get a win on this fight. Thurman has been so successful in the past (less Pacman fight), so I think he is still on his prime and could still win a battle.

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January 26, 2022, 10:40:15 PM
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Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.
What the bookies do in the case there is a very heavy favorite is to begin to offer huge odds for the other party so people feel more compelled to make a bet for them, however this can play against them as it was in the case of the first Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz won and the casinos lost a lot of money as they were giving him huge odds, however most of the time this is not what happens, so even if they have an event in which they lose money they can easily recover it with the rest of the events they offer to their customers.
Bookies use some algorithm, they balance the odds very well so there's money on both sides of the bets. If you see some odds changes, that means they are just trying to balance something, so if you are smart and you bet early and later the odds changes on your favor, that's a good sign that you were able to get a good value the time you put your bet.
I think casinos call that balancing the books or something like that, however while in theory the perfect scenario for a casino is to win as much money with each side of a bet  sometimes this is not realistic. so as long as they win some with each bet that is more than enough for them, however as a said there are circumstances that sometimes do not allow them to do this, as it is the case when there is a very clear favorite, most of the time they will still earn money if the favorite wins, but in the case this does not happen that is when they can sustain some losses, as it was in the example I gave on my previous post.
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January 26, 2022, 10:48:48 PM
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Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.
What the bookies do in the case there is a very heavy favorite is to begin to offer huge odds for the other party so people feel more compelled to make a bet for them, however this can play against them as it was in the case of the first Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz won and the casinos lost a lot of money as they were giving him huge odds, however most of the time this is not what happens, so even if they have an event in which they lose money they can easily recover it with the rest of the events they offer to their customers.
Bookies use some algorithm, they balance the odds very well so there's money on both sides of the bets. If you see some odds changes, that means they are just trying to balance something, so if you are smart and you bet early and later the odds changes on your favor, that's a good sign that you were able to get a good value the time you put your bet.
I think casinos call that balancing the books or something like that, however while in theory the perfect scenario for a casino is to win as much money with each side of a bet  sometimes this is not realistic. so as long as they win some with each bet that is more than enough for them, however as a said there are circumstances that sometimes do not allow them to do this, as it is the case when there is a very clear favorite, most of the time they will still earn money if the favorite wins, but in the case this does not happen that is when they can sustain some losses, as it was in the example I gave on my previous post.
That's it, they balance the odds based on the money that is coming in, if one side is heavily pounded by bets, then most likely the odds will move and that could happen especially if at the start the odds are not properly evaluated by the bookmakers before it's displayed available or if something significant happen to either of the fighter like injury, or anything related to it.

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January 27, 2022, 01:09:07 AM
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^^ Barrios may have power in 140 lbs, but it is not tested on 147 lbs yet and the other way around, what if a true welterweight with power like Thurman hits him in the first time? What will be his reaction then?

So a lot of questions in this fight really, a lot of speculations. However, for us who have been following boxing for so long, we are somewhat going to favor Thurman over Barrios and I personally is thinking that it is possible for Thurman to score a knock out.
Yes they are the same have a power punch that can knock out their opponents but we will saw all the statistics of the fighter then we can say that this fighter has a chance to this match.
Barrios had a speed that can hit thurman in any sides any time but for sure thurman had a plan for that and he can do anything to avoid hitting by barriers.

Thurman learned his lesson from Pacman, if we compared Barrios to Pacman there's a huge difference in terms of throwing and converting quick punches, Thurman just need to work it out and think that he's going to face another Pacman to inspire him to prepare more, he almost win that fight, he just didn't throw the towel but tried to come back but again, the early knockdown weight the most in that fight.

Maybe if he didn't commit that, the decision might be harder for the judges..

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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.
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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

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January 27, 2022, 08:15:51 AM
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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Exactly, Keith Thurman isn't that good anymore, we can really see the way how he move in his last fight against Manny Pacquiao, he's slowly decaying and the fact the haven't got a fight since 2019 will be his disadvantage in the ring unlike Mario Barrios who had professional fights every year since his debut on 2013. Aside from that fact, Barrios has the upper hand here in this fight also the reach.
Either way, seems like Thurman is just chasing the money in this business and trying to use his name even if the lose or win.

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January 27, 2022, 11:17:29 AM
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Mostly, the popular boxer will get the better odds or the favorite to win the fight, in this fight, we know who is the popular boxer although no one of the two is a champion. We stick with what we think and bet on the boxer we believe will get a win on this fight. Thurman has been so successful in the past (less Pacman fight), so I think he is still on his prime and could still win a battle.

I agree, especially with this division like what I have said the trainings and drills to condition his body is not hard for him to achieved,

temporary absence but for sure he still doing some daily routine to make sure that his body is still fit and once this kind of opportunities

knocks, he's willing and ready to take another shot.

The only thing right now is the assumptions of every fan. We can point out our opinions, but the outcome still depends when the fight takes place.
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Mostly, the popular boxer will get the better odds or the favorite to win the fight, in this fight, we know who is the popular boxer although no one of the two is a champion. We stick with what we think and bet on the boxer we believe will get a win on this fight. Thurman has been so successful in the past (less Pacman fight), so I think he is still on his prime and could still win a battle.

I agree, especially with this division like what I have said the trainings and drills to condition his body is not hard for him to achieved,

temporary absence but for sure he still doing some daily routine to make sure that his body is still fit and once this kind of opportunities

knocks, he's willing and ready to take another shot.

The only thing right now is the assumptions of every fan. We can point out our opinions, but the outcome still depends when the fight takes place.

No one could really ascertain the result of this fight, whether it could be Thurman or Barrios will come out as a winner, but knowing how aggressive boh fighters are, I like to expect that we will see a great fight where no one will back down until the end, however, we have our own choice and as for me, it's always Thurman from the start.
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Exactly, Keith Thurman isn't that good anymore, we can really see the way how he move in his last fight against Manny Pacquiao, he's slowly decaying and the fact the haven't got a fight since 2019 will be his disadvantage in the ring unlike Mario Barrios who had professional fights every year since his debut on 2013. Aside from that fact, Barrios has the upper hand here in this fight also the reach.
Either way, seems like Thurman is just chasing the money in this business and trying to use his name even if the lose or win.

We can see if they really put some huge effort into their training when they step in the ring because if they show the same moves and skills as their last fights, that will be their big mistake because their opponent can easily predict where they going and how to counter their moves. No matter how experienced both of them are in the ring, if they only show the same style, the match would end early. I still wanted to see Thurman fight after this though he cannot assure to win this one. I'm sure that if he wins this fight somehow, will give himself some boost of confidence to take on another championship fight.

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January 27, 2022, 12:20:36 PM
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Mostly, the popular boxer will get the better odds or the favorite to win the fight, in this fight, we know who is the popular boxer although no one of the two is a champion. We stick with what we think and bet on the boxer we believe will get a win on this fight. Thurman has been so successful in the past (less Pacman fight), so I think he is still on his prime and could still win a battle.

I agree, especially with this division like what I have said the trainings and drills to condition his body is not hard for him to achieved,

temporary absence but for sure he still doing some daily routine to make sure that his body is still fit and once this kind of opportunities

knocks, he's willing and ready to take another shot.

The only thing right now is the assumptions of every fan. We can point out our opinions, but the outcome still depends when the fight takes place.

No one could really ascertain the result of this fight, whether it could be Thurman or Barrios will come out as a winner, but knowing how aggressive boh fighters are, I like to expect that we will see a great fight where no one will back down until the end, however, we have our own choice and as for me, it's always Thurman from the start.

But we are certain if we place our bet, we have our own prediction and we are confident that we will win, that's what gambling is, we don't think of losing that's why sometimes if we lose we cannot accept the result. This fight, win or lose, my bet will go to Thurman as well.

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January 27, 2022, 02:25:21 PM
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Exactly, Keith Thurman isn't that good anymore, we can really see the way how he move in his last fight against Manny Pacquiao, he's slowly decaying and the fact the haven't got a fight since 2019 will be his disadvantage in the ring unlike Mario Barrios who had professional fights every year since his debut on 2013. Aside from that fact, Barrios has the upper hand here in this fight also the reach.
Either way, seems like Thurman is just chasing the money in this business and trying to use his name even if the lose or win.

We can see if they really put some huge effort into their training when they step in the ring because if they show the same moves and skills as their last fights, that will be their big mistake because their opponent can easily predict where they going and how to counter their moves. No matter how experienced both of them are in the ring, if they only show the same style, the match would end early. I still wanted to see Thurman fight after this though he cannot assure to win this one. I'm sure that if he wins this fight somehow, will give himself some boost of confidence to take on another championship fight.

Being a fighter they already know that if they use the same strategy or moves to their respective last fight for sure they have 50-50% chances of winning cause if they do that the opponent their opponent can study their moves and make some counter moves to defeat them. For sure these two fighters will make a new moves in order to surprise each other. If that gonna happens this fight is more interesting To watch.

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January 27, 2022, 02:33:13 PM
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Thurman learned his lesson from Pacman, if we compared Barrios to Pacman there's a huge difference in terms of throwing and converting quick punches, Thurman just need to work it out and think that he's going to face another Pacman to inspire him to prepare more, he almost win that fight, he just didn't throw the towel but tried to come back but again, the early knockdown weight the most in that fight.

Maybe if he didn't commit that, the decision might be harder for the judges..

Thurman needs this win to hype his career and to have a possible title fight before retiring.. Roll Eyes Cool
yep, it's true that he once fought pacquiao and only narrowly lost to him and of course this will be a pretty good capital for thurman I think.
Barrios has strength far below Pacquiao and this is an advantage that Thurman really needs to take advantage of.
Thurman's endurance is quite good and his momentum reading ability is also very good so I think this will benefit him in this fight.

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Mario Barris will have to put on weight for this fight.  For any athlete, this is a very difficult test.  He may partially lose such qualities as agility and maneuverability. 

But the main thing is not the physical form.  The main thing is the will to win.  I have a feeling that Keith Thurman believes more in his victory than Mario. 

Perhaps Mario is still painfully experiencing his defeat in the battle with Davis. 

In my opinion, Keith Thurman has a better chance of winning this fight.

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January 27, 2022, 08:35:23 PM
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Mario Barris will have to put on weight for this fight.  For any athlete, this is a very difficult test.  He may partially lose such qualities as agility and maneuverability. 

But the main thing is not the physical form.  The main thing is the will to win.  I have a feeling that Keith Thurman believes more in his victory than Mario. 

Perhaps Mario is still painfully experiencing his defeat in the battle with Davis. 

In my opinion, Keith Thurman has a better chance of winning this fight.
I dont have doubts on physical form of Barrios but that wont really be enough on beating up Thurman basing up with statistics/experience/technical fighter then i dont really believe
that he would able to beat out Thurman but we know that this guy could really have that chance and this would really be a test of will and endurance and some luck
on giving out some unexpected blows which might really able for him to win but well its just all in chances and lets see if it could really push through.

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Mario Barris will have to put on weight for this fight.  For any athlete, this is a very difficult test.  He may partially lose such qualities as agility and maneuverability. 

But the main thing is not the physical form.  The main thing is the will to win.  I have a feeling that Keith Thurman believes more in his victory than Mario. 

Perhaps Mario is still painfully experiencing his defeat in the battle with Davis. 

In my opinion, Keith Thurman has a better chance of winning this fight.
I dont have doubts on physical form of Barrios but that wont really be enough on beating up Thurman basing up with statistics/experience/technical fighter then i dont really believe
that he would able to beat out Thurman but we know that this guy could really have that chance and this would really be a test of will and endurance and some luck
on giving out some unexpected blows which might really able for him to win but well its just all in chances and lets see if it could really push through.

Proving he can win is something that he has to do, his record is nothing if he cannot beat Thurman who is a previous champion in Welterweight division, it could be his biggest challenge in his boxing career but not for Thurman, so in terms of confidence, I got Thurman here ready to teach Barrios some lessons.

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January 27, 2022, 09:36:39 PM
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Mario Barris will have to put on weight for this fight.  For any athlete, this is a very difficult test.  He may partially lose such qualities as agility and maneuverability. 

But the main thing is not the physical form.  The main thing is the will to win.  I have a feeling that Keith Thurman believes more in his victory than Mario. 

Perhaps Mario is still painfully experiencing his defeat in the battle with Davis. 

In my opinion, Keith Thurman has a better chance of winning this fight.
I dont have doubts on physical form of Barrios but that wont really be enough on beating up Thurman basing up with statistics/experience/technical fighter then i dont really believe
that he would able to beat out Thurman but we know that this guy could really have that chance and this would really be a test of will and endurance and some luck
on giving out some unexpected blows which might really able for him to win but well its just all in chances and lets see if it could really push through.

Proving he can win is something that he has to do, his record is nothing if he cannot beat Thurman who is a previous champion in Welterweight division, it could be his biggest challenge in his boxing career but not for Thurman, so in terms of confidence, I got Thurman here ready to teach Barrios some lessons.

Easier said than done, Thurman maybe the popular boxer here but Barrios record is quite decent as well, he is more active than Thurman and they both are coming from a loss, so both of them are probably training hard to be in the winning track again which makes the fight more explosive. You know what, I'm gonna be expecting a KO here so I will definitely put a bet on per round or round ranges KO which I think has a very attractive odds.

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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.
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Easier said than done, Thurman maybe the popular boxer here but Barrios record is quite decent as well, he is more active than Thurman and they both are coming from a loss, so both of them are probably training hard to be in the winning track again which makes the fight more explosive. You know what, I'm gonna be expecting a KO here so I will definitely put a bet on per round or round ranges KO which I think has a very attractive odds.

If you are into gambling odds for per round will surely attracts you, bigger value for your money if happened that you pick the right one and I'm sure you are not the only one who will going to do this same bet strategy, instead of ML more gamblers will wait for a round range for possible KO, personally, that's also what I'm thinking,

if Thurman or Barrios wants a big hype for their career, this fight will be the key, especially if they will manage to knock their opponents down.

It will be an open door for more valuable fights, including a title match if media will hype their names.


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Easier said than done, Thurman maybe the popular boxer here but Barrios record is quite decent as well, he is more active than Thurman and they both are coming from a loss, so both of them are probably training hard to be in the winning track again which makes the fight more explosive. You know what, I'm gonna be expecting a KO here so I will definitely put a bet on per round or round ranges KO which I think has a very attractive odds.

If you are into gambling odds for per round will surely attracts you, bigger value for your money if happened that you pick the right one and I'm sure you are not the only one who will going to do this same bet strategy, instead of ML more gamblers will wait for a round range for possible KO, personally, that's also what I'm thinking,

if Thurman or Barrios wants a big hype for their career, this fight will be the key, especially if they will manage to knock their opponents down.

It will be an open door for more valuable fights, including a title match if media will hype their names.



Yes, for boxing gamblers, I don't think that they are going to bet on ML here, not just this fight but all other fights, betting on the favorites would just give you small returns unless you are all in and with huge amount to bet.

So it's better to look for options like which rounds etc, the risk is high but if you hit it, gonna be a good win for you. For me, Thurman maybe by rounds 8 to 10 but stoppage or even a knock out.

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January 28, 2022, 05:23:53 AM
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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.

Just for the semantics though, yes it was just a knock down, but it was enough for Manny to win that fight and give Thurman a rude awakening in that fight. And although Manny faded late, it was enough that he build a good lead already.

So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

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January 28, 2022, 12:38:38 PM
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Seems Thurman is 100% ready in this fight. As per his interview:

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What do you have in your sights for 2022?

“I want my world titles back. This is the first step to putting myself back in championship contention. I see the welterweight division like a horse race. Everybody is running full-speed trying to get to the finish line -  and the finish line is where you are crowned king of the division.

https://www.boxingscene.com/thurman-i-skills-reclaim-my-number-one-spot-147--163717

And from his own words, he wanted his title back, meaning he will contend to fight the best in this division. With the likes of Spence, Crawford and even Ugas, the welterweight division is pretty much on fire right now.

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January 28, 2022, 12:54:08 PM
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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.
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January 28, 2022, 01:19:58 PM
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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.

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January 28, 2022, 04:00:43 PM
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Mario Barris will have to put on weight for this fight.  For any athlete, this is a very difficult test.  He may partially lose such qualities as agility and maneuverability. 

But the main thing is not the physical form.  The main thing is the will to win.  I have a feeling that Keith Thurman believes more in his victory than Mario. 

Perhaps Mario is still painfully experiencing his defeat in the battle with Davis. 

In my opinion, Keith Thurman has a better chance of winning this fight.
I dont have doubts on physical form of Barrios but that wont really be enough on beating up Thurman basing up with statistics/experience/technical fighter then i dont really believe
that he would able to beat out Thurman but we know that this guy could really have that chance and this would really be a test of will and endurance and some luck
on giving out some unexpected blows which might really able for him to win but well its just all in chances and lets see if it could really push through.

I read an interview with Mario Barris. 

He analyzed his chances of winning the fight with Keith Thurman.  I was looking for a hint of a strong will to win in his words. 

The great Russian writer Leo Tolstoy wrote in his novel "War and Peace" that the one who believes more in his victory wins the war. 

Does Mario Barris believe in his victory over Keith Thurman?  In my opinion - "No". 

Mario lacks aggressiveness.  Aggression is very important for a boxer.  The boxer must not reflex.

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January 28, 2022, 05:41:23 PM
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Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

This is a good basis for me as a bettor of this fight which one will definitely good to bet on. Though I've made a quick research about these fighters and you know Thurman is the crowd's favorite here and now through this I know why. Sometimes, relying on bet odds is not quite enough that's why conducting or you know having a thought about a fighters capacities, capabilities and a review for his past or recent fights will going to give a bettors a hint which one should they choose to support on.
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Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

This is a good basis for me as a bettor of this fight which one will definitely good to bet on. Though I've made a quick research about these fighters and you know Thurman is the crowd's favorite here and now through this I know why. Sometimes, relying on bet odds is not quite enough that's why conducting or you know having a thought about a fighters capacities, capabilities and a review for his past or recent fights will going to give a bettors a hint which one should they choose to support on.

The odds would only give you an idea about the fight, however, you need to be smart enough to verify if the odds are overvalued or undervalued. As for the betting odds, Thurman is the crowd favorite and I think it's just right because he will likely win this fight anyway and I am one of the many who believes that.

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January 28, 2022, 09:21:29 PM
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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.
^ Size does not matter in boxing as long as grip strength is there, it's very important when grappling and delivering punches.
When it comes to strength, weight, and height are different things, it has always an advantage when you have this strength even though you are not taller and that is right size does not matter.
However, in this match, I will go to Thurman's side, I know he has the capability to defeat Barrios with his strong punches very quickly.
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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.
^ Size does not matter in boxing as long as grip strength is there, it's very important when grappling and delivering punches.
When it comes to strength, weight, and height are different things, it has always an advantage when you have this strength even though you are not taller and that is right size does not matter.
However, in this match, I will go to Thurman's side, I know he has the capability to defeat Barrios with his strong punches very quickly.

Barrios is quick as well but Thurman has been in many fights with different great fighters. It's his division, so it's just right that people will lean on him in this fight. In terms of experience, Thurman is way more mature and though both came from a loss Thurman's loss was a very close one, and it was a big fight.

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January 28, 2022, 11:53:11 PM
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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.
^ Size does not matter in boxing as long as grip strength is there, it's very important when grappling and delivering punches.
When it comes to strength, weight, and height are different things, it has always an advantage when you have this strength even though you are not taller and that is right size does not matter.
However, in this match, I will go to Thurman's side, I know he has the capability to defeat Barrios with his strong punches very quickly.

Barrios is quick as well but Thurman has been in many fights with different great fighters. It's his division, so it's just right that people will lean on him in this fight. In terms of experience, Thurman is way more mature and though both came from a loss Thurman's loss was a very close one, and it was a big fight.

When it comes to experience they arent really too far off.

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3 fights ahead of Thurman and both does have 1 loss.KO% might be differ but not much.
Wont really be surprised if Barrios would give some shot.



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January 28, 2022, 11:58:21 PM
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Proving he can win is something that he has to do, his record is nothing if he cannot beat Thurman who is a previous champion in Welterweight division, it could be his biggest challenge in his boxing career but not for Thurman, so in terms of confidence, I got Thurman here ready to teach Barrios some lessons.

Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.

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January 29, 2022, 04:56:09 AM
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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.

It was just a slipped though, what I really meant is that he was knock down with the Manny Pacquiao fight.

So we will see in this fight if Thurman's boxing career is near it's end. He is what like 33 years old and should by know at the peak of his career. But he was injured and then a long layoff that might have taken a lot from him.  Again, this is a comeback for him and it could be his greatest fight or it could spell disaster for him if he lost.

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January 29, 2022, 06:32:50 AM
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Danilo Barrios
This should be Mario Barrios.

When it comes to experience they arent really too far off.

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Mario Barrios

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3 fights ahead of Thurman and both does have 1 loss.KO% might be differ but not much.
Wont really be surprised if Barrios would give some shot.
On the 29 wins of Thurman, he got 22 KOs.

For Barrios, he got 17 KOs.

Both of them got these good records so, I guess this is going to be a fight that's tough for each other. Not going to be surprised as both of them got good ratio of KOs for their wins.



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January 29, 2022, 07:31:36 AM
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Exactly, Keith Thurman isn't that good anymore, we can really see the way how he move in his last fight against Manny Pacquiao, he's slowly decaying and the fact the haven't got a fight since 2019 will be his disadvantage in the ring unlike Mario Barrios who had professional fights every year since his debut on 2013. Aside from that fact, Barrios has the upper hand here in this fight also the reach.
Either way, seems like Thurman is just chasing the money in this business and trying to use his name even if the lose or win.

We can see if they really put some huge effort into their training when they step in the ring because if they show the same moves and skills as their last fights, that will be their big mistake because their opponent can easily predict where they going and how to counter their moves. No matter how experienced both of them are in the ring, if they only show the same style, the match would end early. I still wanted to see Thurman fight after this though he cannot assure to win this one. I'm sure that if he wins this fight somehow, will give himself some boost of confidence to take on another championship fight.

As for Thurman, I can't say that we have a lot to expect from him and as I've stated that he haven't got any professional fights since Pacquiao defetead him last July 2019, just that fact alone, we already know what would be the repercussions for being inactive in the industry. But still Barrios should see that Thurman isn't any ordinary boxer because the Thurman's experience can vouch for that.

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January 29, 2022, 09:01:49 AM
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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.

It was just a slipped though, what I really meant is that he was knock down with the Manny Pacquiao fight.

So we will see in this fight if Thurman's boxing career is near it's end. He is what like 33 years old and should by know at the peak of his career. But he was injured and then a long layoff that might have taken a lot from him.  Again, this is a comeback for him and it could be his greatest fight or it could spell disaster for him if he lost.

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

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Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

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January 29, 2022, 11:16:04 PM
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Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

33 years old is still a good age for boxers it is actually a ripe age, the 3 years of inactivity will have an impact, he needs a good conditioning coach and tough sparring partners to get into great shape like when he is active three years ago, Thurman is good at picking a comeback opponent, he chooses a fighter who just got knocked out and easily intimidated Thurman knows his weakness because it was very evident in the Gervonta fight.


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January 29, 2022, 11:51:17 PM
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Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.
Keith might have no fights on past 3 years but doesnt mean that he had forgotten on maintaining his shape? Of course there would be some differences but if he didnt really pass nor get confident

about his body condition or built then i dont really see much difference.Yes, he's already 33 but this one could still be kicking but we cant really remove the probabilities that

Barrios could possibly beat up Thurman on this fight but it wouldnt be an assurance.Stats wise they are really close to each other thats why its hard to make out decisions.

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January 29, 2022, 11:58:22 PM
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Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.
Keith might have no fights on past 3 years but doesnt mean that he had forgotten on maintaining his shape? Of course there would be some differences but if he didnt really pass nor get confident

about his body condition or built then i dont really see much difference.Yes, he's already 33 but this one could still be kicking but we cant really remove the probabilities that

Barrios could possibly beat up Thurman on this fight but it wouldnt be an assurance.Stats wise they are really close to each other thats why its hard to make out decisions.

we have no idea what preparation or training has been going on in thurman's camp. we can only tell once both are inside the ring. but for now, we can only speculate what may possibly happen. thurman, being 33, for me is not old inside the ring. and we also don't know how he is sustaining his shape throughout those inactive years.
but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.

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January 30, 2022, 01:20:04 AM
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Barrios could possibly beat up Thurman on this fight but it wouldnt be an assurance.Stats wise they are really close to each other thats why its hard to make out decisions.
I cant say either who's going to win on this fight. This will be competitive since both came from a lost. Its their chance to prove and redeem themselves.

but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.
Thats true. If that happened its a great opportunity for him after the past years that he is not active. Thurman certainly prepared for this so lets see who will dominate the ring.

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we have no idea what preparation or training has been going on in thurman's camp. we can only tell once both are inside the ring. but for now, we can only speculate what may possibly happen. thurman, being 33, for me is not old inside the ring. and we also don't know how he is sustaining his shape throughout those inactive years.
but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.

Probably rough training so he can go back to his old deadly form if he can get back to his old deadly form, Barrios could be in big trouble I have seen him in his Gervonta fight and I'm not impressed with how he fought he cannot take a big punch, what more from Thurman who comes from a much heavier category, both fighters cannot afford a loss because it will be two in a row.



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January 30, 2022, 04:49:54 AM
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we have no idea what preparation or training has been going on in thurman's camp. we can only tell once both are inside the ring. but for now, we can only speculate what may possibly happen. thurman, being 33, for me is not old inside the ring. and we also don't know how he is sustaining his shape throughout those inactive years.
but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.

Probably rough training so he can go back to his old deadly form if he can get back to his old deadly form, Barrios could be in big trouble I have seen him in his Gervonta fight and I'm not impressed with how he fought he cannot take a big punch, what more from Thurman who comes from a much heavier category, both fighters cannot afford a loss because it will be two in a row.

Yeah, and that's why it is a different fight for Barrios to move up in a division and then faces one of the best. So all advantage is on Thurman here, it's that how he will execute that in order to win. So it could be that Thurman will go out in the beginning and not give Barrios a chance and make him feel the power of a true welterweight. Or Barrios goes up against Thurman and test if he still has it or not. Could be more damaging to Thurman's career if he losses against a new comer in the division and he is not getting old. A huge pay check against Ugas or Spence will go in the drain if he losses in this fight.

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Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.
Lol of course we will see what will happen after the fight , and Thurman might not active in social media updates but for sure he constantly practice even when in break so surely he will give Barrios a great fight this time .
I remember when Manny Pacquiao Beats Keith Thurman , with his bad mouthing before the fight but see what happens to His face after the fight lol.
this will be a good fight because both of them are a great boxer in their division.

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Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.
That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.
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Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.
That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.
But the thing is the odds favor on Thurman, not Barrios... so we can say the crowded are still believing Thurman and the analyst doesn't have a lot impact. Though 2 years inactive isn't good, it's questionable why does he took a break after losing from Pacquiao and what does he activities for 2 years. He's still in prime age and he should achieving more titles instead of fight rarely.

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January 30, 2022, 11:39:04 AM
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Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.
That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.

Or it's just a good way to bring interest with this fight, analyst are just giving opinions and even they've got upper knowledge about this sport, it's still the fans and the gamblers who will put their money at stake. I still see the advantage from Thurman as he is more familiar and more experienced, having 31 fights and only 1 loss before deciding to rest for some time, while Barrios got 27 fights and also has 1 loss, but in a much lower division.

Thurman decides to take this fight, probably he's aiming for something big.

Winning this one will give him opportunities to take another shot and regain his former position..

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Yeah, and that's why it is a different fight for Barrios to move up in a division and then faces one of the best. So all advantage is on Thurman here, it's that how he will execute that in order to win. So it could be that Thurman will go out in the beginning and not give Barrios a chance and make him feel the power of a true welterweight. Or Barrios goes up against Thurman and test if he still has it or not. Could be more damaging to Thurman's career if he losses against a new comer in the division and he is not getting old. A huge pay check against Ugas or Spence will go in the drain if he losses in this fight.

Pride in a former champ who is trying to rebuild his old glory, Thurman is more on a mission here, it will damage his career if he loses this one.

If he's aiming for higher paycheck and another opportunity to fight against the current champs, he needs to accomplish this first.

Barrios may give him a good fight as he is desiring to make his name from this new division, very interesting to see if who will take this one.
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Yeah, and that's why it is a different fight for Barrios to move up in a division and then faces one of the best. So all advantage is on Thurman here, it's that how he will execute that in order to win. So it could be that Thurman will go out in the beginning and not give Barrios a chance and make him feel the power of a true welterweight. Or Barrios goes up against Thurman and test if he still has it or not. Could be more damaging to Thurman's career if he losses against a new comer in the division and he is not getting old. A huge pay check against Ugas or Spence will go in the drain if he losses in this fight.

Pride in a former champ who is trying to rebuild his old glory, Thurman is more on a mission here, it will damage his career if he loses this one.

If he's aiming for higher paycheck and another opportunity to fight against the current champs, he needs to accomplish this first.

Barrios may give him a good fight as he is desiring to make his name from this new division, very interesting to see if who will take this one.

Between the two, it looks like Barrios is more motivated that he did decide to move up to a new division after his loss last year while Thurman sit back for two years. Although it's not the basis for who will win, it stimulates the willingness to win all the way. Winning this match will just be an incentive if any of them get the shot to fight Spence or Crawford.


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January 30, 2022, 06:27:31 PM
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Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.
That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.

Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

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Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

33 years old is still a good age for boxers it is actually a ripe age, the 3 years of inactivity will have an impact, he needs a good conditioning coach and tough sparring partners to get into great shape like when he is active three years ago, Thurman is good at picking a comeback opponent, he chooses a fighter who just got knocked out and easily intimidated Thurman knows his weakness because it was very evident in the Gervonta fight.
While times are changing and thanks to new therapies and medical knowledge athletes are finding ways to extend their careers way past their physical prime while retaining most of their skills even at an advanced age, at the same time this is something that is only possible for those that are at the very top in terms of performance, like Manny Pacquiao, while even good boxers will begin to decline way faster, and if to this we add the inactivity due to the pandemic then the reduction in their skills can be even faster.
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January 30, 2022, 07:56:19 PM
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Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

Agree, Thurman is still a dangerous fighter even though he has been out for two years now and for me Thurman has the advantage on this fight because this is his weight while Barrios is not yet too comfortable in this division.

I'm for Keith Thurman this weekend but with his inactivity for a long time i would go for that "Thurman by decision" @2.60, that is not bad at all.


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January 30, 2022, 09:20:22 PM
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Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

Agree, Thurman is still a dangerous fighter even though he has been out for two years now and for me Thurman has the advantage on this fight because this is his weight while Barrios is not yet too comfortable in this division.

I'm for Keith Thurman this weekend but with his inactivity for a long time i would go for that "Thurman by decision" @2.60, that is not bad at all.



I'll go with the higher odds, it's Thurman by KO.

Although he was inactive for years, I still believe he did not change and he is still a very dangerous fighter.
Barrios lost to Davis via TKO, so it's not impossible that he will lose in the same fashion against Thurman.

Win or lose that bet of mine is final.

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Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

33 years old is still a good age for boxers it is actually a ripe age, the 3 years of inactivity will have an impact, he needs a good conditioning coach and tough sparring partners to get into great shape like when he is active three years ago, Thurman is good at picking a comeback opponent, he chooses a fighter who just got knocked out and easily intimidated Thurman knows his weakness because it was very evident in the Gervonta fight.

I'm not taking age as a disadvantage but I agree with you that because of inactivity, it plays a big impact. There are lots of good boxers still at their best on their 33 years of age, even older than that but those are active in the ring, and training sessions are regular.

Maybe a disadvantage for Thurman but he is an experienced boxer. I know he already knows what to do and already working on his strengthening since this fight was announced.

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January 31, 2022, 02:37:16 AM
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Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

Agree, Thurman is still a dangerous fighter even though he has been out for two years now and for me Thurman has the advantage on this fight because this is his weight while Barrios is not yet too comfortable in this division.

I'm for Keith Thurman this weekend but with his inactivity for a long time i would go for that "Thurman by decision" @2.60, that is not bad at all.


I'll go with the higher odds, it's Thurman by KO.

Although he was inactive for years, I still believe he did not change and he is still a very dangerous fighter.
Barrios lost to Davis via TKO, so it's not impossible that he will lose in the same fashion against Thurman.

Win or lose that bet of mine is final.

Thurman by KO is possible but i would go for ending up on a decision which 2.xx odds isnt really that bad either but for those who are eyeing on
on Barrios then 4-5 odds isnt that bad but only to those who do believe that there might be some upset that would happen in this fight
and believed that Thurman inactivity did really take some toll on possible performance against Barrios.

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It's already fight week, for sure majority of us are excited even for non bettors because we can just watch this great match.

It's going to be interesting fight, Thurman coming back after a long hiatus and then Barrios moving up to the Welterweight and trying to "test his mettle". But boxing fans has spoken from this community, it's Thurman to win this fight. So let's see if majority is right in picking him.
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

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January 31, 2022, 08:47:29 AM
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

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January 31, 2022, 10:26:39 AM
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

Yes, if he wins and then just a so-so performance or a win that is questionable, then Thurman might not get the winner of Ugas vs Spence. Maybe he will get another fight first and see if he still has the mentally or not.

So a KO bet is not that bad after all, the odds are good and we might see it happening in this fight.

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Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

He needs to vie it all here as it's his last fight if he still wants to revive his popularity which was already subsided years ago. But Thurman is one of the popular entertainers in the boxing industry, he can still be a good asset if he somehow loses this fight and decided to be like Porter, a boxing commentator. The fight is next week and that would be a must-watch for me since I want to see him fight and get back in the ring after this.

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January 31, 2022, 11:13:45 AM
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

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January 31, 2022, 12:51:13 PM
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Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

He needs to vie it all here as it's his last fight if he still wants to revive his popularity which was already subsided years ago. But Thurman is one of the popular entertainers in the boxing industry, he can still be a good asset if he somehow loses this fight and decided to be like Porter, a boxing commentator. The fight is next week and that would be a must-watch for me since I want to see him fight and get back in the ring after this.

He can only revive his popularity if he will be a champion again, and it should start by winning on his come-back fight. A win here will make noise in the boxing industry, and of course, a champion always has a challenger, so who knows, maybe one day Thurman will challenge one of the champions in the Welterweight division.

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January 31, 2022, 12:52:45 PM
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

Not all the fight he is a slow starter I guess, it's just normal that he starts slowly with Pacman as he knows his power, and maybe he was hesitant to attack as he might be in trouble. This is a different fight, a different level of fighter and not even on the level of Pacman and other champions, so I expect Thurman to be aggressive from the start to the end.



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January 31, 2022, 04:00:37 PM
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

Not all the fight he is a slow starter I guess, it's just normal that he starts slowly with Pacman as he knows his power, and maybe he was hesitant to attack as he might be in trouble. This is a different fight, a different level of fighter and not even on the level of Pacman and other champions, so I expect Thurman to be aggressive from the start to the end.

I think Thurman already knows what to do and that's not to be hot aggressive in early rounds as it could be really dangerous for him, and it's not that Thurman is a slow starter, in fact all boxers starts slow because they have to measure the opponent first rather than just go and be aggressive. As you said, this is a whole different fighter and a different level, so I guess Thurman will observe Barrios's movements first before he starts to dance again.

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January 31, 2022, 04:33:34 PM
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Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

He needs to vie it all here as it's his last fight if he still wants to revive his popularity which was already subsided years ago. But Thurman is one of the popular entertainers in the boxing industry, he can still be a good asset if he somehow loses this fight and decided to be like Porter, a boxing commentator. The fight is next week and that would be a must-watch for me since I want to see him fight and get back in the ring after this.

yes he need to put everything here and a possible early KO would bring more entertainment for the fans, afterwards we can discuss possible big fight if Thurman will win in a very convincing way, else, if he won't succeed the chance may be lesser as fans interest will not be that much, though a win still a win but we are expecting something out from a very familiar former champ who really good at this division.

Good luck to all who already decide placing their bets as per current odd. ML for Thurman is @ 1.50

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January 31, 2022, 09:59:29 PM
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

Not all the fight he is a slow starter I guess, it's just normal that he starts slowly with Pacman as he knows his power, and maybe he was hesitant to attack as he might be in trouble. This is a different fight, a different level of fighter and not even on the level of Pacman and other champions, so I expect Thurman to be aggressive from the start to the end.

I think Thurman already knows what to do and that's not to be hot aggressive in early rounds as it could be really dangerous for him, and it's not that Thurman is a slow starter, in fact all boxers starts slow because they have to measure the opponent first rather than just go and be aggressive. As you said, this is a whole different fighter and a different level, so I guess Thurman will observe Barrios's movements first before he starts to dance again.
When it comes to good technical fighting then Thurman does fit out into that kind of type or behavior.Of course each boxer does really have that kind of behavior on testing out on early rounds
and trying out to dominate or controlling the pace and its just not right on being aggressive but there are actually fighters who do really have this kind of style but
in most fighters they arent something like this.For Thurman and we have seen on previous fights that he isnt really that aggressive but really good on technicals.

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January 31, 2022, 10:13:59 PM
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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.
Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

I haven't made a choice yet but these two are great fighters and you just can't ignore how they're holding good records.



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January 31, 2022, 10:38:53 PM
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yes he need to put everything here and a possible early KO would bring more entertainment for the fans, afterwards we can discuss possible big fight if Thurman will win in a very convincing way, else, if he won't succeed the chance may be lesser as fans interest will not be that much, though a win still a win but we are expecting something out from a very familiar former champ who really good at this division.

He really should put everything here. That fight will determine his career in the future. If he loses that one, and still wants to fight, he will start again facing low-tier boxers. The revenue of that fight is also a question regardless of the result.

Good luck to all who already decide placing their bets as per current odd. ML for Thurman is @ 1.50

Seems like a worthy odds for those who really eyes that Thurman will win. Even lucky to have that odds as if Thurman is active, it might be @1.1 or @1.2 (well in the first place they might not have a chance to face each other if Thurman is active lol).

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January 31, 2022, 11:36:22 PM
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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

Seems like really a good bet instead of betting Thurman to just win the fight. A KO win is possible to happen as Thurman is expected to be pumped as he is hungry and excited for his comeback. Barrios already knows that and I'm sure he already has some things planning out to spoil Thurman's return.

I'm not seeing an upset here but there's always a probability for it to happen.
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So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

A Knockout win should be aggressively pushed on the early rounds. Since Thurman is inactive for around 3 years, we can't expect his overall stamina to be the same as before. If he won't make a KO win on early rounds, he might be running out of stamina to do it and will just have to make sure that he gets the most points every round to play safely on the stat sheet for a Decision result.

Hesitant here that Thurman will make a KO win but not closing the possibility that it will happen. Like I usually read here, he is a former champion and his experience is already a good stand point to predict what will be his performance few days from now.

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.
Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.



It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

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February 01, 2022, 11:57:43 AM
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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.
Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.



It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

But that was against Davis who is a champion and undefeated if Barrios lose in his last fight, it's not different for Thurman because he also lost in his previous fight against Pacman. Both would want to win here, and whoever wins will have a chance to fight the best in welterweights and of course I'm talking about the champions.

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February 01, 2022, 12:57:13 PM
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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.
Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.



It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Perhaps he has difficulty making the 140 lbs limit that time that's why he is vulnerable to body shots and as the rounds go on, his body is not performing because maybe it was drain just to make the 140 lbs.

And now that he moves up in weight, maybe that could be non-factor. However, he is facing another hard hitter so we will see how his body will react if hits by a bigger and natural welter.

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February 01, 2022, 03:03:18 PM
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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.
That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.
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February 01, 2022, 06:15:16 PM
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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.
That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, early 30s is the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also has the capability to knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink
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February 01, 2022, 06:24:59 PM
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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantage this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number record of winnings knockout. Hopefully, it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.
That's not an advantage IMO in though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, the early 30s are the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also can knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink

Time has almost come and that day we can see a great fight by a famous and great fighter. Thurman has a chance to win this match but we can not sure that we will win cause we all know that Barrie's will do his best too to defeat Thurman and he has the potential and good stamina to sustain the fight so this is a hard fight by Thurman, and I think this is interesting to watch.

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February 01, 2022, 07:53:11 PM
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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.
That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

I'm also expecting Thurman to put up a show here, Barrios hasn't tested this weight class, this is his first time and he will face a former champion. And yes, at age 33, this is still prime years for boxers, and we will witness that in Thurman. He is aching for a comeback and show us that he can bang in the welterweight division. So expect no less than a knock out for his comeback win.

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.
Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.



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February 01, 2022, 09:58:41 PM
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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.
Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.

Sportsbooks are favoring Thurman over Barrios in this fight. Thurman has only one loss, which is from Pacquiao. And Barrios has also one loss as well. We know they want to redeem themselves in this upcoming fight so we will see a toe-to-toe fight here and see who's the prepared one. But in this case, I am betting on Thurman to win on this match. Of course, they will study the strategies and weaknesses of their opponents and work from there. But we will only see those strategies once inside the ring. And which one of them have very good tactics to beat his opponent.
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February 01, 2022, 11:18:22 PM
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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.
Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.

Sportsbooks are favoring Thurman over Barrios in this fight. Thurman has only one loss, which is from Pacquiao. And Barrios has also one loss as well. We know they want to redeem themselves in this upcoming fight so we will see a toe-to-toe fight here and see who's the prepared one. But in this case, I am betting on Thurman to win on this match. Of course, they will study the strategies and weaknesses of their opponents and work from there. But we will only see those strategies once inside the ring. And which one of them have very good tactics to beat his opponent.

Even with only one loss, it does not mean that eventually, the guy will find his match. Just remember that even Tyson, eventually, got the chance to meet Douglas and have a taste at the floor. In this case, the chance are not even remotely that unequal and the books are possibly right from their perspective but there is a good reason to bet for Barrios - I mean, is not crazy at all at this moment.

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That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.

Sportsbooks are favoring Thurman over Barrios in this fight. Thurman has only one loss, which is from Pacquiao. And Barrios has also one loss as well. We know they want to redeem themselves in this upcoming fight so we will see a toe-to-toe fight here and see who's the prepared one. But in this case, I am betting on Thurman to win on this match. Of course, they will study the strategies and weaknesses of their opponents and work from there. But we will only see those strategies once inside the ring. And which one of them have very good tactics to beat his opponent.
Both of them only has one lose and there's only one going to proceed with remaining one lose after this match.

There's no other way looking of what the both camps have been studying with their opponents, we're really going to see it being applied inside the ring just within the few days left.

We're close to the said date of the match and likely to be seen if whoever gets the greatest research and training.



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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.

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February 02, 2022, 09:28:02 AM
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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

Of course, he wanted to test himself and Thurman. I think Barrios style fits that, he is more of a brawler to me.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It could be different though, maybe Barrios is really a true 147 lbs fighter for all we know. he is tall and has the reach of a true WW as well. He is weight drain against Davis, that's the way I see it that's why he is so much in trouble in the weight scale even before fight.
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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantage this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number record of winnings knockout. Hopefully, it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.
That's not an advantage IMO in though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, the early 30s are the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also can knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink

Time has almost come and that day we can see a great fight by a famous and great fighter. Thurman has a chance to win this match but we can not sure that we will win cause we all know that Barrie's will do his best too to defeat Thurman and he has the potential and good stamina to sustain the fight so this is a hard fight by Thurman, and I think this is interesting to watch.
I doubt that thurman has an advantage in this fight as he had been out in boxing for years so Barrios is in the good position here.

But of course Boxing is a game in which Both has a capacity to bring the opponent down to take the win so it is either fighter but I am Aiming for Barrios to win on this as I already Place my bet yesterday lol.

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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

That's only for press release  Smiley. The moment he taste the power punch of a true welterweight, things will change and he will start to back off.

Yeah, he has been Koed by Tank Davis what more if Thurman could land those devastating blows to him.

Ring rust and the probability of Barrios not engaging are the reasons why i'm inclined to bet on Thurman to win decision this coming weekend.

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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.
That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, early 30s is the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also has the capability to knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink

Exactly! If we're talking about advantage here then Keith Thurman has it more as he's more experienced in the ring and in the industry, he may be inactive for years but that won't mean that he's ineffective and Barrios won't get an easy fight. The latter may be young and fast but that won't mean anything if he can't hit Thurman with a lethal blow.

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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.
We know that fighters will say almost anything to try too hype up a fight, so I am not surprised that Barrios is saying something like this so more people get interested in the fight and watch it, however I am no so sure that trading blows is going to be the best strategy for him against someone like Thurman, after all I think he could do so for a few rounds but to be able to endure so much punishment during the whole fight seems like something difficult to do.
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It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.
All the reason to win is for him, Barrios serves as challenger after deciding to climb up to this division, if Thurman wants that big
Fight. He needs to convince everyone around this sport that he deserves to have that shot. Convincing by means not just to win.
but an entertaining fight to hype up his name.

We will see if how Thurman is ready now once the fight start and how he will aggressively throw punches to Barrios.. Roll Eyes Cool

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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

That's only for press release  Smiley. The moment he taste the power punch of a true welterweight, things will change and he will start to back off.

Yeah, he has been Koed by Tank Davis what more if Thurman could land those devastating blows to him.

Ring rust and the probability of Barrios not engaging are the reasons why i'm inclined to bet on Thurman to win decision this coming weekend.

Yeah, lots of trades off in his fight, Barrios moving up to this division facing a former champion. But that former champion has ring rust so it's really a toss up right now.

But I will still leaning towards a Keith victory here, maybe he can shake off the ring rust and then look for a KO in later rounds.

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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.
We know that fighters will say almost anything to try too hype up a fight, so I am not surprised that Barrios is saying something like this so more people get interested in the fight and watch it, however I am no so sure that trading blows is going to be the best strategy for him against someone like Thurman, after all I think he could do so for a few rounds but to be able to endure so much punishment during the whole fight seems like something difficult to do.

Yes, that's too familiar statement coming from a fighter that is the underdog in this fight.

But for sure he will give everything and show the fans that maybe at the slightest he can brawl with a great puncher such as Thurman. That if Thurman still has that power to still knock out anyone in this division.

We are almost in the fight, just a couple of days to go, we see the weigh-in, some media interviews again and then the fight itself.

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February 03, 2022, 05:03:14 PM
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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.
Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.
That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

I'm also expecting Thurman to put up a show here, Barrios hasn't tested this weight class, this is his first time and he will face a former champion. And yes, at age 33, this is still prime years for boxers, and we will witness that in Thurman. He is aching for a comeback and show us that he can bang in the welterweight division. So expect no less than a knock out for his comeback win.

There is something that I do understand and it is from a sporting point of view, when a boxer or even any athlete in a contact sport knocks him out, and they knock him down several times in the ring, that is something that affects a lot on a mental level, In fact, an athlete has to have a very high morale, and a unique self-esteem, and when things like this happen, it usually causes a lot of mistrust, and this makes it difficult to overcome on a mental level, although there are not many who overcome it quickly, sometimes Sometimes a fighter falls into what they should never do and that is in the insecurity of themselves in their physical abilities.

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February 03, 2022, 07:42:25 PM
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There is something that I do understand and it is from a sporting point of view, when a boxer or even any athlete in a contact sport knocks him out, and they knock him down several times in the ring, that is something that affects a lot on a mental level, In fact, an athlete has to have a very high morale, and a unique self-esteem, and when things like this happen, it usually causes a lot of mistrust, and this makes it difficult to overcome on a mental level, although there are not many who overcome it quickly, sometimes Sometimes a fighter falls into what they should never do and that is in the insecurity of themselves in their physical abilities.


There are people who have this kind of mindset not just with sport but also with other things, the acceptance is not easy but for those who overcome they use it as inspiration to build their self-esteem and make it a good motivation to improve, hopefully Thurman see it this way and make his comeback more impressing.

We will see this inside the ring if who among these two fighters is more hunger for the win.


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February 03, 2022, 08:16:33 PM
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There is something that I do understand and it is from a sporting point of view, when a boxer or even any athlete in a contact sport knocks him out, and they knock him down several times in the ring, that is something that affects a lot on a mental level, In fact, an athlete has to have a very high morale, and a unique self-esteem, and when things like this happen, it usually causes a lot of mistrust, and this makes it difficult to overcome on a mental level, although there are not many who overcome it quickly, sometimes Sometimes a fighter falls into what they should never do and that is in the insecurity of themselves in their physical abilities.


There are people who have this kind of mindset not just with sport but also with other things, the acceptance is not easy but for those who overcome they use it as inspiration to build their self-esteem and make it a good motivation to improve, hopefully Thurman see it this way and make his comeback more impressing.

We will see this inside the ring if who among these two fighters is more hunger for the win.



And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.
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February 03, 2022, 08:37:13 PM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

Yes, and this maybe the reason why Keith wanted to come back, the timing is perfect, Spence and Crawford, who is the best right now could be available to him if he will win his fight against Barrios.

And he himself said that those two are the top right now and it will be a big challenge for him to fight them. But he has a big hurdle first to overcome and if wins over Barrios then wait for the winner of Spence vs Ugas or go directly to Crawford.

As for the ring rust, it's two fold, sometimes the fighter that takes a lot of break can come back strong and rejuvenated.

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February 03, 2022, 09:24:36 PM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

Yes, and this maybe the reason why Keith wanted to come back, the timing is perfect, Spence and Crawford, who is the best right now could be available to him if he will win his fight against Barrios.

And he himself said that those two are the top right now and it will be a big challenge for him to fight them. But he has a big hurdle first to overcome and if wins over Barrios then wait for the winner of Spence vs Ugas or go directly to Crawford.

As for the ring rust, it's two fold, sometimes the fighter that takes a lot of break can come back strong and rejuvenated.

Thurman still has the skills, and if continue to make himself fit through proper training and diet, then he should not experience the ring rust in this fight, besides he is still the favorite, so that's a big thing that people still believe that he can win in this fight.

And yes, this fight is a big one, it's his ticket to a fight against Crawford or Spence.

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February 03, 2022, 10:44:37 PM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.
Experiencing your first loss since you are still undefeated would somewhat give out that kind of stress or frustration which cant really be healed upon on a few days and he might be still thinking off on how he had been lost on that last fight which its his first but for sure he wouldn't really let for a second time around on this upcoming fight which would really be enough for a good drive for him
to give out his best shot on this one.
Basing on stats then they are just almost the same but we know that Thurman could really pull this off but that wont be simple as his opponent is also a good one too.
He shouldn't just make himself that confident and being lost might happened again.

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February 03, 2022, 11:21:00 PM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.
Experiencing your first loss since you are still undefeated would somewhat give out that kind of stress or frustration which cant really be healed upon on a few days and he might be still thinking off on how he had been lost on that last fight which its his first but for sure he wouldn't really let for a second time around on this upcoming fight which would really be enough for a good drive for him
to give out his best shot on this one.
Basing on stats then they are just almost the same but we know that Thurman could really pull this off but that wont be simple as his opponent is also a good one too.
He shouldn't just make himself that confident and being lost might happened again.

But after his loss to Pacquiao, we have seen his humbleness and accepted that defeat.
Also, there are some videos that he truly respects Pacquiao, like the one he interviewed him just before the supposedly Spence Jr's fight.
I believe he will comeback strong and show again his prowess inside the ring.
So hopefully, he will not disappoint us in this coming fight. This will be his determining step on where to go after this fight.
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

He truly have that capabilities, Before losing to Pacquiao he really have that charm that attract most fans.

Preparing for this fight will be crucial it's not just to win but to take Barrios as his stepping stone to reach back his former place,

I'm all in for Thurman taking 1.47 odd, still decent to add some value while watching the fight..

Best of luck to all fans and bettors!
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February 04, 2022, 01:12:22 AM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.
As for the ring rust, it's two fold, sometimes the fighter that takes a lot of break can come back strong and rejuvenated.

Actually he really need to take a rest after his defeat to Pacquiao. Not just because of the lost, but he has some injuries that needs time to heal. So he is back 100% in this fight and could be rejuvenated and shows that he is back in this division and that he is a former belt holder way before Crawford appears in 147 and Spence Jr showing himself in the welterweight.

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February 04, 2022, 04:31:41 AM
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Both fighters have mutual respect for each other skills and power and they are both excited to be back in the ring and get on the winning streak,
I love to see fights from boxers who want to get in the winning streak, both fighters cannot afford a loss their value will greatly diminish if they lose again, I'll still go for Thurman based on how he speaks he stated he never left boxing it's always in his mind day and night, the early rounds are the rounds Thurman need to fully condition himself, after that Thurman will be chasing Barrios, Thurman being a heavy puncher..

By the way, check out their final press conference

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February 04, 2022, 05:38:12 AM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

Agreed. His long rest from the sport might have also given him proper healing on his physical injuries and also some healing on the mental injury of receiving his only loss from an old man in the ring called Pacman hehehe.

I reckon your bet for this fight is on Keith Thurman with a decision?

Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

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February 04, 2022, 09:48:22 AM
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Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

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February 04, 2022, 11:51:27 AM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

Yes, and this maybe the reason why Keith wanted to come back, the timing is perfect, Spence and Crawford, who is the best right now could be available to him if he will win his fight against Barrios.

And he himself said that those two are the top right now and it will be a big challenge for him to fight them. But he has a big hurdle first to overcome and if wins over Barrios then wait for the winner of Spence vs Ugas or go directly to Crawford.

As for the ring rust, it's two fold, sometimes the fighter that takes a lot of break can come back strong and rejuvenated.

Thurman still has the skills, and if continue to make himself fit through proper training and diet, then he should not experience the ring rust in this fight, besides he is still the favorite, so that's a big thing that people still believe that he can win in this fight.

And yes, this fight is a big one, it's his ticket to a fight against Crawford or Spence.

IMO, ring rust effect is inevitable especially for those boxers who rest long enough and Thurman isn't exempted as he also rested for almost 3 years already since he lost for the 1st time to the Pinoy champ Manny Pacquiao, but this effect can be minimized to avoid a fighter (Thurman) from the disadvantage with yes a proper extensive training and diet. As for his capabilities and strength, there's no doubt about it that he still have those.

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February 04, 2022, 01:32:29 PM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

Yes, and this maybe the reason why Keith wanted to come back, the timing is perfect, Spence and Crawford, who is the best right now could be available to him if he will win his fight against Barrios.

And he himself said that those two are the top right now and it will be a big challenge for him to fight them. But he has a big hurdle first to overcome and if wins over Barrios then wait for the winner of Spence vs Ugas or go directly to Crawford.

As for the ring rust, it's two fold, sometimes the fighter that takes a lot of break can come back strong and rejuvenated.

Thurman still has the skills, and if continue to make himself fit through proper training and diet, then he should not experience the ring rust in this fight, besides he is still the favorite, so that's a big thing that people still believe that he can win in this fight.

And yes, this fight is a big one, it's his ticket to a fight against Crawford or Spence.

IMO, ring rust effect is inevitable especially for those boxers who rest long enough and Thurman isn't exempted as he also rested for almost 3 years already since he lost for the 1st time to the Pinoy champ Manny Pacquiao, but this effect can be minimized to avoid a fighter (Thurman) from the disadvantage with yes a proper extensive training and diet. As for his capabilities and strength, there's no doubt about it that he still have those.

Good point! It is really inevitable but there are also some good boxers that have overcome that effect quite early on the ring. As for Thurman's case, he should not let that make him at the disadvantage, so he should really have to overcome it as early as he can like having an extensive sparring to work his muscles and strengths again. At this point, he is now fully healed physically and mentally from his lost way back 2019 and I know that he's working real hard so that he can redeem his name this time.

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February 04, 2022, 02:13:48 PM
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At this point, he is now fully healed physically and mentally from his lost way back 2019 and I know that he's working real hard so that he can redeem his name this time.

For sure he is 100% healthy going to this fight, he has rested for years, maybe has already reflected on his first loss and he will come back strong in this fight proving to the world why he should be considered in the top 3 in the welterweight division. I know we have 3 champions, but as Ugas and Spence will unify their belts, the loser will lose all his belts and that's where Thurman will come out to challenge the champion, that's the best-case scenario.

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At this point, he is now fully healed physically and mentally from his lost way back 2019 and I know that he's working real hard so that he can redeem his name this time.

For sure he is 100% healthy going to this fight, he has rested for years, maybe has already reflected on his first loss and he will come back strong in this fight proving to the world why he should be considered in the top 3 in the welterweight division. I know we have 3 champions, but as Ugas and Spence will unify their belts, the loser will lose all his belts and that's where Thurman will come out to challenge the champion, that's the best-case scenario.

He should be, and yes by now, he already reflected about it well on his defeat from Manny Pacquiao and he's humble about it and that is already a sign that he will be indeed coming back strong and reclaim his name again in the industry. I also do think that Keith is also going that way after this encounter but he should defeat Barrios first in-order to fight either Ugas or Spence.

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February 04, 2022, 02:49:30 PM
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At this point, he is now fully healed physically and mentally from his lost way back 2019 and I know that he's working real hard so that he can redeem his name this time.

For sure he is 100% healthy going to this fight, he has rested for years, maybe has already reflected on his first loss and he will come back strong in this fight proving to the world why he should be considered in the top 3 in the welterweight division. I know we have 3 champions, but as Ugas and Spence will unify their belts, the loser will lose all his belts and that's where Thurman will come out to challenge the champion, that's the best-case scenario.

He should be and Barrios is a good stepping stone,  Barrios will be taking shots from a welterweight guy who is also a strong puncher and it's questionable if Barrios has power in the welterweight division he is not really that strong in the Lightweight division so I doubt if he can hurt a natural welterweight, both fighters want a strong showing in this fight to become a contender in the welterweight so we are going to expect two fighters hungry to get back on track, I'm not going to miss this one.


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February 04, 2022, 03:05:43 PM
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Both fighters have mutual respect for each other skills and power and they are both excited to be back in the ring and get on the winning streak,
I love to see fights from boxers who want to get in the winning streak, both fighters cannot afford a loss their value will greatly diminish if they lose again, I'll still go for Thurman based on how he speaks he stated he never left boxing it's always in his mind day and night, the early rounds are the rounds Thurman need to fully condition himself, after that Thurman will be chasing Barrios, Thurman being a heavy puncher..

By the way, check out their final press conference

Keith Thurman vs Mario Barrios | FINAL PRESS CONFERENCE | PBC ON FOX

It is more exciting to see a fighter whom have come from a long time rest and hopefully Thurman got fully recovered. The fight will take place tomorrow right and that's make this upcoming event more exciting for the fans. This is definitely a great chance to both fighter to prove who's the great fighter among them. But among the two fighter I will be on Thurman side and I believe this man could perform a great fight and hopefully nail the fight.
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February 04, 2022, 06:46:48 PM
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Both fighters have mutual respect for each other skills and power and they are both excited to be back in the ring and get on the winning streak,
I love to see fights from boxers who want to get in the winning streak, both fighters cannot afford a loss their value will greatly diminish if they lose again, I'll still go for Thurman based on how he speaks he stated he never left boxing it's always in his mind day and night, the early rounds are the rounds Thurman need to fully condition himself, after that Thurman will be chasing Barrios, Thurman being a heavy puncher..

By the way, check out their final press conference

Keith Thurman vs Mario Barrios | FINAL PRESS CONFERENCE | PBC ON FOX

It is more exciting to see a fighter whom have come from a long time rest and hopefully Thurman got fully recovered. The fight will take place tomorrow right and that's make this upcoming event more exciting for the fans. This is definitely a great chance to both fighter to prove who's the great fighter among them. But among the two fighter I will be on Thurman side and I believe this man could perform a great fight and hopefully nail the fight.

A very great chance to bring their names on hypes, Thurman still the favorite here and like both of you I also want him back to his shape and challenge those top rank from this division, he just lost once, and it's from the legendary which is really a tough opponent, now, it's time for Thurman to go back on track.

Winning against Barrios is his first assignment. If he is really interested in a money fight/ title fight, he needs to bring an impressive
win to call the attention of fans and promoters..

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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.
Experiencing your first loss since you are still undefeated would somewhat give out that kind of stress or frustration which cant really be healed upon on a few days and he might be still thinking off on how he had been lost on that last fight which its his first but for sure he wouldn't really let for a second time around on this upcoming fight which would really be enough for a good drive for him
to give out his best shot on this one.
Basing on stats then they are just almost the same but we know that Thurman could really pull this off but that wont be simple as his opponent is also a good one too.
He shouldn't just make himself that confident and being lost might happened again.

But after his loss to Pacquiao, we have seen his humbleness and accepted that defeat.
Also, there are some videos that he truly respects Pacquiao, like the one he interviewed him just before the supposedly Spence Jr's fight.
I believe he will comeback strong and show again his prowess inside the ring.
So hopefully, he will not disappoint us in this coming fight. This will be his determining step on where to go after this fight.
Yeah after he do make out some trashtalks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0iFKmF33mI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kGxQpBoEdE

He had learned from that and pretty sure that he wouldn't make out some trashtalks again.What you think?

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February 04, 2022, 08:05:48 PM
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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.
Experiencing your first loss since you are still undefeated would somewhat give out that kind of stress or frustration which cant really be healed upon on a few days and he might be still thinking off on how he had been lost on that last fight which its his first but for sure he wouldn't really let for a second time around on this upcoming fight which would really be enough for a good drive for him
to give out his best shot on this one.
Basing on stats then they are just almost the same but we know that Thurman could really pull this off but that wont be simple as his opponent is also a good one too.
He shouldn't just make himself that confident and being lost might happened again.

But after his loss to Pacquiao, we have seen his humbleness and accepted that defeat.
Also, there are some videos that he truly respects Pacquiao, like the one he interviewed him just before the supposedly Spence Jr's fight.
I believe he will comeback strong and show again his prowess inside the ring.
So hopefully, he will not disappoint us in this coming fight. This will be his determining step on where to go after this fight.
Yeah after he do make out some trashtalks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0iFKmF33mI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kGxQpBoEdE

He had learned from that and pretty sure that he wouldn't make out some trashtalks again.What you think?

He loses not because of his trash talk, it's because of his strategy inside the ring, not outside. If it's in his nature that he trash talks his opponent, then he will do that with anyone as that's his style and he thinks he can get the attention of the fans to watch the fight, besides, it's the viewers which are more important as they are fighting for the price.

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February 04, 2022, 08:45:40 PM
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He loses not because of his trash talk, it's because of his strategy inside the ring, not outside. If it's in his nature that he trash talks his opponent, then he will do that with anyone as that's his style and he thinks he can get the attention of the fans to watch the fight, besides, it's the viewers which are more important as they are fighting for the price.

I never knew that Thurman was such a trash talker until he fought Pacman, but what I like about him is he has the sportsmanship which other boxers don't have, he humbly accepted his defeat after, so I'm sure he will become a champion again because he accepts his defeat so he will improve as a boxer.
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February 04, 2022, 10:45:11 PM
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I never knew that Thurman was such a trash talker until he fought Pacman, but what I like about him is he has the sportsmanship which other boxers don't have, he humbly accepted his defeat after, so I'm sure he will become a champion again because he accepts his defeat so he will improve as a boxer.

Agree, though it was a close fight but he accepted the verdict of the judges, that was what i admired of him also.

BTW, the fight will be tomorrow in our time zone and i have made up my mind to bet for the below  Grin.

As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.




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February 04, 2022, 10:59:21 PM
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I never knew that Thurman was such a trash talker until he fought Pacman, but what I like about him is he has the sportsmanship which other boxers don't have, he humbly accepted his defeat after, so I'm sure he will become a champion again because he accepts his defeat so he will improve as a boxer.

Agree, though it was a close fight but he accepted the verdict of the judges, that was what i admired of him also.

BTW, the fight will be tomorrow in our time zone and i have made up my mind to bet for the below  Grin.

As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.


Thanks for the share up buddy! Would you mind to share on what bookie is this? It would be great if you do tell. Odds on via decision by Keith isnt a bad odds either.
Majority of people been thinking that he could KO'ed Barrios on here which i dont also believe but there might be some probabilities but it would really be just slim.
What i like about Thurman on the previous loss or his first is that he do accept it out and truly have that sportmanship unlike others who do ignore and deny.

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As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I agree with you. Even Thurman is a former world champion, inactivity in the ring for several years is really a problem. Even Thurman is expected to do again the performance he used on working before, he might have a tough time to get back in shape.

But even with a rusty performance, Thurman to win by Knock Out between Rounds 8-9 seems a good bet.
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I never knew that Thurman was such a trash talker until he fought Pacman, but what I like about him is he has the sportsmanship which other boxers don't have, he humbly accepted his defeat after, so I'm sure he will become a champion again because he accepts his defeat so he will improve as a boxer.

Agree, though it was a close fight but he accepted the verdict of the judges, that was what i admired of him also.

BTW, the fight will be tomorrow in our time zone and i have made up my mind to bet for the below  Grin.

As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.



Awesome. This is a good odds for those like me that didn't expecting a KO win by Thurman.

Barrios should not be treated as pure underdog here. He can surely survived the fight without being KO but still Thurman will win at the end

I might tail you on this if you will bet on decision by Thurman.

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February 05, 2022, 02:05:13 AM
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As I have said before, will go with Thurman either by KO or decision. But since @bisdak40 posted his bet on the decision, I'm leaning towards it than a KO.

But we will see, maybe Barrios is taller, and full welterweight now so his resistance against a power punch might increased dramatically when compare to 140 lbs that's why Davis was able to knock him down easily.

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I never knew that Thurman was such a trash talker until he fought Pacman, but what I like about him is he has the sportsmanship which other boxers don't have, he humbly accepted his defeat after, so I'm sure he will become a champion again because he accepts his defeat so he will improve as a boxer.

Agree, though it was a close fight but he accepted the verdict of the judges, that was what i admired of him also.

BTW, the fight will be tomorrow in our time zone and i have made up my mind to bet for the below  Grin.

As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.



I knew that you gonna bet on that mate, hehehe. And it's a solid bet to be honest the odds are good and like you have said, ring rust might be a factor for Thurman in this fight. He might be prepared physically with all the training in the gym. But it's different when you are in real fight with all the lights and the fans and this might make you excited that can bring you some flash back of the Pacquiao fan. So he might be timid in the beginning, and very slow.

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February 05, 2022, 05:31:01 AM
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Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

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February 05, 2022, 06:00:17 AM
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Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

Barrios name will only be popular if he wins against Thurman, if he losses this one, then its hard for him to win a fight in this division because it's pretty much stack up.

Not sure if Thurman is curse or what, but he will definitely wanted to change things if he is going to win here. There is the 2 kings right now, Spence and Crawford that he can challenge, if he losses to any of this fighters, at least he will have a good paycheck.
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As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I agree with you. Even Thurman is a former world champion, inactivity in the ring for several years is really a problem. Even Thurman is expected to do again the performance he used on working before, he might have a tough time to get back in shape.

But even with a rusty performance, Thurman to win by Knock Out between Rounds 8-9 seems a good bet.

Almost 3 years without a professional fight after his loss, after his inactivity, it's been already expected that he will atleast experience ring rust but I know that he and his team are training him hard around the clock to somehow minimize that effect.

Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

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February 05, 2022, 12:33:33 PM
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As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I agree with you. Even Thurman is a former world champion, inactivity in the ring for several years is really a problem. Even Thurman is expected to do again the performance he used on working before, he might have a tough time to get back in shape.

But even with a rusty performance, Thurman to win by Knock Out between Rounds 8-9 seems a good bet.

Almost 3 years without a professional fight after his loss, after his inactivity, it's been already expected that he will atleast experience ring rust but I know that he and his team are training him hard around the clock to somehow minimize that effect.

Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

Great analysis but I would still go with the KO, that's going to be a 12 rounds of fight, maybe he can start slow and finish it with a KO just like the last fight of Barrios over Davis. None of us can really ascertain what's going to happen but I'm happy that we choose the same fighter to win.



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February 05, 2022, 12:52:43 PM
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Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

I'm thinking the other way. Keith Thurman might likely go all-in on the early rounds in an attempt to settle right away the match and make a KO finish. Since his stamina is at stake here knowing he is out of his own league for nearly 3 years, he needs to take the opportunity to take down Barrios at the early round while his stamina is still at its peak.

However, Barrios might also do the same and we can see a close bout in the early rounds. They should be to make the fight more intense.

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February 05, 2022, 03:34:24 PM
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As I've  said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I agree with you. Even Thurman is a former world champion, inactivity in the ring for several years is really a problem. Even Thurman is expected to do again the performance he used on working before, he might have a tough time to get back in shape.

But even with a rusty performance, Thurman to win by Knock Out between Rounds 8-9 seems a good bet.

Almost 3 years without a professional fight after his loss, after his inactivity, it's been already expected that he will atleast experience ring rust but I know that he and his team are training him hard around the clock to somehow minimize that effect.

Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

Great analysis but I would still go with the KO, that's going to be a 12 rounds of fight, maybe he can start slow and finish it with a KO just like the last fight of Barrios over Davis. None of us can really ascertain what's going to happen but I'm happy that we choose the same fighter to win.

Me too! There's a high chance that Thurman will go for a KO somewhere on the 7th to 12th round considering that Thurman's knockout rate is somewhere 87% and because somehow I'm quite positive that he will start slow while observing Barrios and have to overcome that ring rust thing first. Nevertheless, we should expect that this will be an intense fight and that Keith Thurman will successfully redeem his name.

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Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.

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February 05, 2022, 06:18:56 PM
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Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

I'm thinking the other way. Keith Thurman might likely go all-in on the early rounds in an attempt to settle right away the match and make a KO finish. Since his stamina is at stake here knowing he is out of his own league for nearly 3 years, he needs to take the opportunity to take down Barrios at the early round while his stamina is still at its peak.

However, Barrios might also do the same and we can see a close bout in the early rounds. They should be to make the fight more intense.

I would like to see that, I'm expecting an impressive toe to toe actions between these two fighters, both have their own

personal reason, winning this fight will open another door in their careers. I'm pretty sure that training camps are expecting both

fighters to be aggressive. It's good to showcase their talents in the early rounds to delight and entertain the fans, winning them

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Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.

if thurman is very comfortable with his weight, he can easily move around and it will give him advantage. few hours from now and we will see if thurman is ready for this come back. placing some bet on him so let's see.
want to see if he has still this power skill on him after long hiatus from the ring.

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February 05, 2022, 07:50:25 PM
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Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.
Neither way he would really make out adjustments basing on the current weight does he have.For Barrios then no doubt that he do really feels very comfortable on this
division.
You could really see that this fight would really be something that goes toe to toe just like on what been mentioned above ^ and this is something that where
most boxing fans would really be liking to see on.

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Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.
Neither way he would really make out adjustments basing on the current weight does he have.For Barrios then no doubt that he do really feels very comfortable on this
division.
You could really see that this fight would really be something that goes toe to toe just like on what been mentioned above ^ and this is something that where
most boxing fans would really be liking to see on.

The day has come, this fight is going to be a great fight as both fighters are not boring to watch. I would still keep my faith on Thurman and I'm hoping that my bet would win, a KO would be much better than a win via decision, so I hope Thurman would be careful from the start until he'll finish Barrios with a KO.
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Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

That argument may be true, especially when Thurman will be showing  a sign of slowing down of his career and did not recover from a Pacquiao loss.
He have underestimated the power and speed of Pacquiao, with that, you can never become one of the top boxer. He could've played it smart like Ugas did.
Let's just see If really have recovered from his first loss.

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February 05, 2022, 08:43:58 PM
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Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

That argument may be true, especially when Thurman will be showing  a sign of slowing down of his career and did not recover from a Pacquiao loss.
He have underestimated the power and speed of Pacquiao, with that, you can never become one of the top boxer. He could've played it smart like Ugas did.
Let's just see If really have recovered from his first loss.

After this fight, if he loses, no one will be talking about him, but if he will redeem himself and win impressively, then he will have an opportunity to probably get a fight with either Spence or Crawford, I'm sure that's the reason why he is coming back, he wants to prove to the world that despite his previous loses, he can rise and be at the champions league once again.

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February 05, 2022, 09:27:57 PM
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Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

That will be known after this fight. You got a point there mate but i still believe in Keith Thurman. This might be the biggest fight of his career because if he losses this one then it's gonna be over for him and yeah, he will be used as a stepping stone for young fighters to become popular.

I'm a little bit worried for Barrios on why taking a fight with Thurman on his first fight as a welterweight when he can choose some fighters who he thinks he can beat comfortably before taking on the big names. The speed and power in junior welterweight is not the same in the higher division so i think this is a very risky move for him.

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However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

I have doubts if Barrios has what it takes to become a superstar in the welterweight division, the welterweight division is talent laden not to mention the two welterweight champions who are included in the top boxers in the ring magazine, I also have doubt if he can get past Thurman in the first place he should not step in the welterweight division at all, that's biting what he can't chew, all my doubts will be erased only after he knocks out Thurman.  

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However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

I have doubts if Barrios has what it takes to become a superstar in the welterweight division, the welterweight division is talent laden not to mention the two welterweight champions who are included in the top boxers in the ring magazine, I also have doubt if he can get past Thurman in the first place he should not step in the welterweight division at all, that's biting what he can't chew, all my doubts will be erased only after he knocks out Thurman.  

Yes, everything will be settled after the fight. Thurman will avoid another shame on his career. Winning this fight will bring vibes and will straighten his resume and have that chance to regain another belt. I personally believe that he's here to try to his last shot. I'm convinced that he's more capable of beating Barrios, just expecting that he will do it with a KO.

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February 06, 2022, 03:27:58 AM
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However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

I have doubts if Barrios has what it takes to become a superstar in the welterweight division, the welterweight division is talent laden not to mention the two welterweight champions who are included in the top boxers in the ring magazine, I also have doubt if he can get past Thurman in the first place he should not step in the welterweight division at all, that's biting what he can't chew, all my doubts will be erased only after he knocks out Thurman.  

Yes, everything will be settled after the fight. Thurman will avoid another shame on his career. Winning this fight will bring vibes and will straighten his resume and have that chance to regain another belt. I personally believe that he's here to try to his last shot. I'm convinced that he's more capable of beating Barrios, just expecting that he will do it with a KO.

Early rounds or whatever but a KO will be more entertaining.. Wink Cool

Day of reckoning is here fight fans, under card in this fight is already good.

Of course, we wanted to see a competitive fight and a knock out coming from Keith Thurman and then expect him to bad mouth either Crawford or Spence.

Nevertheless, a 12 round decision will not hurt in anyway, a win is a win. So let's see how strong Keith will go in this fight.

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February 06, 2022, 03:32:51 AM
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Hey guys just got this live feed from one social media Thurman Barrios is coming up, hard to miss this fight it's not a championship fight but a fight for two fighters hungry for a comeback and they both wants to have a good and dramatic comeback let's see whose comeback will be great my bet is Thurman via knock out it will be in the later rounds.

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Good fight so far, specially in round 6, both have good exchanges.

Thurman's jab is going in and then he counter as well, dominating performance.

But I would say that Keith is ahead on the judges scorecard. I have him winning all the rounds actually, but we will see how this fight ends. It might have end in a knock out for Thurman.

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Thurman one time is back and there's no hint of ring rust he fights intelligently and aggressively against the tall and young Mario Barrios winning via unanimous decision 117-111 118-110, just what all many of us have predicted he established himself early and almost knock down Barrios, Thurman will move forward and fight for the welterweight title.

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February 06, 2022, 05:57:32 AM
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It appears that I was mistaken hehe. The winner for this fight will challenge the winner of Errol Spence versus Yordenis Ugas for the WBC championship. I reckon that the WBC should have given the opportunity to Boots Ennis and let Keith Thurman fight against a real welterweight. It appears someone is giving Thurman an easy fight hehe. This might not make his challenge against either Spence or Ugas appear very exciting.

@bisdak. Thank you again for the advice hehehe.

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Thurman is excited to be back and he walks the talk put up a great fight, there was one round where he took out his mouthpiece to get more air and that was when Barrios hit him with a huge body punch but Thurman has good footwork and he also admits that Barrios has a lot of bad moves and he is short of exploring it, he'll have a good chance fighting Ugas, but will have a hard time-fighting Spence or Crawford but congrats to the One Time Thurman, he did it this time.


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February 06, 2022, 08:13:59 AM
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Thurman is excited to be back and he walks the talk put up a great fight, there was one round where he took out his mouthpiece to get more air and that was when Barrios hit him with a huge body punch but Thurman has good footwork and he also admits that Barrios has a lot of bad moves and he is short of exploring it, he'll have a good chance fighting Ugas, but will have a hard time-fighting Spence or Crawford but congrats to the One Time Thurman, he did it this time.

That was an impressive win by Thurman, he is not in his 100% condition but his boxing skills are still way superb compared to Barrios, good for him and he is back, after a loss against Pacman, I think Thurman is back and ready to make some noise in the welterweight division.

Who would be his next opponent?

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February 06, 2022, 08:27:13 AM
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Thurman is excited to be back and he walks the talk put up a great fight, there was one round where he took out his mouthpiece to get more air and that was when Barrios hit him with a huge body punch but Thurman has good footwork and he also admits that Barrios has a lot of bad moves and he is short of exploring it, he'll have a good chance fighting Ugas, but will have a hard time-fighting Spence or Crawford but congrats to the One Time Thurman, he did it this time.

That was an impressive win by Thurman, he is not in his 100% condition but his boxing skills are still way superb compared to Barrios, good for him and he is back, after a loss against Pacman, I think Thurman is back and ready to make some noise in the welterweight division.
After testing for awhile, you can expect that from Thurman, but what's important is that he won the fight and it's unanimous decision which clearly showed how he dominated the fight.

Who would be his next opponent?
I like to see him fighting the number 1 in ranking, and I believe that it's Crawford, for sure it's going to be a big fight and Crawford would sell that fight very well, better than his fights before.

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February 06, 2022, 10:28:53 AM
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It's a wide decision win for Thurman, and I would say good choice of opponents for him.

Not to soft and in paper it looks like Barrios could pull an upset. But it was a dominating performance by Thurman except for round 8 if I'm not mistaken wherein he takes his mouthpiece because he was hit in the body. If only Barrios could follow up on that one, anyhow, let's see who is Thurman going to go after this fight.
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It's a wide decision win for Thurman, and I would say good choice of opponents for him.

Not to soft and in paper it looks like Barrios could pull an upset. But it was a dominating performance by Thurman except for round 8 if I'm not mistaken wherein he takes his mouthpiece because he was hit in the body. If only Barrios could follow up on that one, anyhow, let's see who is Thurman going to go after this fight.

Cherry pick fight for him? hehehe. Ring rust didn't show and it seems that he is not affected. On the contrary he is sharp with those jabs and jumping left hooks. He caught Barrios several times. But he wasn't able to knock him down, but still good fight by Barrios at 147 lbs.

But this version of Thurman won't win against Crawford.

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It's a wide decision win for Thurman, and I would say good choice of opponents for him.

Not to soft and in paper it looks like Barrios could pull an upset. But it was a dominating performance by Thurman except for round 8 if I'm not mistaken wherein he takes his mouthpiece because he was hit in the body. If only Barrios could follow up on that one, anyhow, let's see who is Thurman going to go after this fight.

That was expected since Thurman has come from a long period of waiting before this fight and thankfully he won this one and he just proved that he has still the will and skills to get back on track and get back his championship title. Congrats and welcome back to Thurman, hope he will land a good fight next time before he will be given another championship fight.

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February 06, 2022, 10:51:22 AM
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Thurman is excited to be back and he walks the talk put up a great fight, there was one round where he took out his mouthpiece to get more air and that was when Barrios hit him with a huge body punch but Thurman has good footwork and he also admits that Barrios has a lot of bad moves and he is short of exploring it, he'll have a good chance fighting Ugas, but will have a hard time-fighting Spence or Crawford but congrats to the One Time Thurman, he did it this time.

That was an impressive win by Thurman, he is not in his 100% condition but his boxing skills are still way superb compared to Barrios, good for him and he is back, after a loss against Pacman, I think Thurman is back and ready to make some noise in the welterweight division.

Who would be his next opponent?

As I watched the fight, Thurman clearly had the higher hand and indeed he really gave his fans a good fight and won via unanimous decision since he was inactive for nearly 3 years after he lost from the Philippine champ. What a comeback! He started slow but I don't think that he's having some ring rust on the ring as he clearly dominates almost every round. Gotta give some credits for Barrios as he also proved himself that he can keep up to the former champion.

Keith's next opponent? There's no rumors or possible match-up yet as of this time but this is already a sign that he's really back!

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February 06, 2022, 11:22:08 AM
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It appears that I was mistaken hehe. The winner for this fight will challenge the winner of Errol Spence versus Yordenis Ugas for the WBC championship. I reckon that the WBC should have given the opportunity to Boots Ennis and let Keith Thurman fight against a real welterweight. It appears someone is giving Thurman an easy fight hehe. This might not make his challenge against either Spence or Ugas appear very exciting.

@bisdak. Thank you again for the advice hehehe.

That's a wise move of Team Thurman in making a come back fight. IMO, Barrios is a B-level fighter and have not yet tested a true welterweight so making him an opponent could somehow be called a cherry picking in my view but given the inactivity of Thurman, that's a wise decision.

Thurman was sharp in this fight and i could say that one or two more tune up fights, he would be ready for Errol Spence or Crawford if he will be active this year, i mean no taking a vacation for 18 months hehe.

Congrats to all the Thurman believers in this forum  Smiley.

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Keith's next opponent? There's no rumors or possible match-up yet as of this time but this is already a sign that he's really back!

I would like to congratulate Thurman on a superb performance, there's little ring rust in his performance I agree Thurman is good but there are a lot of fighters that are better than Thurman, I still consider Spence and Crawford to be the best welterweight fighters. at this point of time, he will likely face Spence in the future because I am 100% sure Spence will beat Ugas

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Keith's next opponent? There's no rumors or possible match-up yet as of this time but this is already a sign that he's really back!

I would like to congratulate Thurman on a superb performance, there's little ring rust in his performance I agree Thurman is good but there are a lot of fighters that are better than Thurman, I still consider Spence and Crawford to be the best welterweight fighters. at this point of time, he will likely face Spence in the future because I am 100% sure Spence will beat Ugas

That depends on Spence, if he is willing to fight Thurman then it will certainly happen as Thurman is always open to having a championship fight. Not only Spence, we also have Crawford, and since he is no longer connected with Top Rank, things will surely be easier to arrange a fight against Thurman.



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It's a wide decision win for Thurman, and I would say good choice of opponents for him.

Not to soft and in paper it looks like Barrios could pull an upset. But it was a dominating performance by Thurman except for round 8 if I'm not mistaken wherein he takes his mouthpiece because he was hit in the body. If only Barrios could follow up on that one, anyhow, let's see who is Thurman going to go after this fight.

That was expected since Thurman has come from a long period of waiting before this fight and thankfully he won this one and he just proved that he has still the will and skills to get back on track and get back his championship title. Congrats and welcome back to Thurman, hope he will land a good fight next time before he will be given another championship fight.

For sure his stocks rises with this big comeback win, maybe top 3 or top 4 fighter in the welterweight. The big dogs as they say is Crawford and Spence. So that is the next fight that we want Thurman to take next. If he is not comfortable, then maybe another tune up fight for him. Spence and Ugas though are going to face, and the winner? who knows, maybe Thurman can get it, maybe not. But big congratulations to him and for those who bet on a decision win.
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It appears that I was mistaken hehe. The winner for this fight will challenge the winner of Errol Spence versus Yordenis Ugas for the WBC championship. I reckon that the WBC should have given the opportunity to Boots Ennis and let Keith Thurman fight against a real welterweight. It appears someone is giving Thurman an easy fight hehe. This might not make his challenge against either Spence or Ugas appear very exciting.

@bisdak. Thank you again for the advice hehehe.

That's a wise move of Team Thurman in making a come back fight. IMO, Barrios is a B-level fighter and have not yet tested a true welterweight so making him an opponent could somehow be called a cherry picking in my view but given the inactivity of Thurman, that's a wise decision.

Thurman was sharp in this fight and i could say that one or two more tune up fights, he would be ready for Errol Spence or Crawford if he will be active this year, i mean no taking a vacation for 18 months hehe.

Congrats to all the Thurman believers in this forum  Smiley.

Congrats to you because you won your bet, you predicted well that it's gonna be Thurman winning via decision, it was smooth and what Barrios all did is just to survive the fight. It was a great win by Thurman, I can say that he is still the same, he is precise with his punches and he is very confident in the ring, he will surely be a tough opponent of either the champions, x-Ugas.

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It's a wide decision win for Thurman, and I would say good choice of opponents for him.

Not to soft and in paper it looks like Barrios could pull an upset. But it was a dominating performance by Thurman except for round 8 if I'm not mistaken wherein he takes his mouthpiece because he was hit in the body. If only Barrios could follow up on that one, anyhow, let's see who is Thurman going to go after this fight.

That was expected since Thurman has come from a long period of waiting before this fight and thankfully he won this one and he just proved that he has still the will and skills to get back on track and get back his championship title. Congrats and welcome back to Thurman, hope he will land a good fight next time before he will be given another championship fight.

For sure his stocks rises with this big comeback win, maybe top 3 or top 4 fighter in the welterweight. The big dogs as they say is Crawford and Spence. So that is the next fight that we want Thurman to take next. If he is not comfortable, then maybe another tune up fight for him. Spence and Ugas though are going to face, and the winner? who knows, maybe Thurman can get it, maybe not. But big congratulations to him and for those who bet on a decision win.

This is indeed a good comeback for Thurman. Now, he tested himself again inside the ring, he knows basically where to improve the next time around to beat other champions in his division. Spence Jr, Ugas or Crawford - they are on his list now. He maybe just waiting for the next call out of his opponent. And he should not take a long break again, he should take this opportunity while he is still below 40s.  Grin
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This is indeed a good comeback for Thurman. Now, he tested himself again inside the ring, he knows basically where to improve the next time around to beat other champions in his division. Spence Jr, Ugas or Crawford - they are on his list now. He maybe just waiting for the next call out of his opponent. And he should not take a long break again, he should take this opportunity while he is still below 40s.  Grin

It's almost a perfect fight this is something we expect, we all know how good Thurman we only have doubts because he has over 900 days of inactivity, now he has proven that he is back and he is better compared when he lose to Pacquiao, he really is motivated to make a huge comeback, he may not get that knock out but enough to school a former world champion.
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As I watched the fight, Thurman clearly had the higher hand and indeed he really gave his fans a good fight and won via unanimous decision since he was inactive for nearly 3 years after he lost from the Philippine champ. What a comeback! He started slow but I don't think that he's having some ring rust on the ring as he clearly dominates almost every round. Gotta give some credits for Barrios as he also proved himself that he can keep up to the former champion.

Keith's next opponent? There's no rumors or possible match-up yet as of this time but this is already a sign that he's really back!
Barrios' mistake was that he seemed to be waiting for momentum on the other hand, Thurman was quite aggressive, especially starting from round 3, Thurman had started to attack sporadically to the Barrios area. with a jab from Barrios.
Of the many rounds I will probably see round 8, round 11 and the last round because this is a pretty exciting round for me.

Congratulations to Thurman, Congratulations to all of us who are by Thurman's side. I'm getting pretty big profit now with this win Smiley

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As I watched the fight, Thurman clearly had the higher hand and indeed he really gave his fans a good fight and won via unanimous decision since he was inactive for nearly 3 years after he lost from the Philippine champ. What a comeback! He started slow but I don't think that he's having some ring rust on the ring as he clearly dominates almost every round. Gotta give some credits for Barrios as he also proved himself that he can keep up to the former champion.

Keith's next opponent? There's no rumors or possible match-up yet as of this time but this is already a sign that he's really back!
Barrios' mistake was that he seemed to be waiting for momentum on the other hand, Thurman was quite aggressive, especially starting from round 3, Thurman had started to attack sporadically to the Barrios area. with a jab from Barrios.
Of the many rounds I will probably see round 8, round 11 and the last round because this is a pretty exciting round for me.

Congratulations to Thurman, Congratulations to all of us who are by Thurman's side. I'm getting pretty big profit now with this win Smiley

Congrats on the win, if you notice, Thurman's weakness was again displayed in the fight, that body of him is still weak and he took out his mouth fist so he would breathe easily, the same scenario with Pacman's fight when he got hit on the body. A great return and I hope he will be more active and will be more better in the next fight.

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This is indeed a good comeback for Thurman. Now, he tested himself again inside the ring, he knows basically where to improve the next time around to beat other champions in his division. Spence Jr, Ugas or Crawford - they are on his list now. He maybe just waiting for the next call out of his opponent. And he should not take a long break again, he should take this opportunity while he is still below 40s.  Grin

It's almost a perfect fight this is something we expect, we all know how good Thurman we only have doubts because he has over 900 days of inactivity, now he has proven that he is back and he is better compared when he lose to Pacquiao, he really is motivated to make a huge comeback, he may not get that knock out but enough to school a former world champion.

Well, that indeed is undeniably a good come back after a devastating loss. He still have a good and formidable chin, but what I have noticed is that he'll basically got hurt with body shots. For the 2nd time around he took out his mouth piece after a solid body shot from his opponent since Pacquiao.
Now, If he's going to fight Spence next, he should be ready with a lot of body shot punishment then.

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February 06, 2022, 06:22:54 PM
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Barrios' mistake was that he seemed to be waiting for momentum on the other hand, Thurman was quite aggressive, especially starting from round 3, Thurman had started to attack sporadically to the Barrios area. with a jab from Barrios.
Of the many rounds I will probably see round 8, round 11 and the last round because this is a pretty exciting round for me.

Congratulations to Thurman, Congratulations to all of us who are by Thurman's side. I'm getting pretty big profit now with this win Smiley

Congrats on the win, if you notice, Thurman's weakness was again displayed in the fight, that body of him is still weak and he took out his mouth fist so he would breathe easily, the same scenario with Pacman's fight when he got hit on the body. A great return and I hope he will be more active and will be more better in the next fight.
Agree with what you said about Thurman's weakness, he is a player with vision but it's a shame that his endurance is not good enough and if you look at today's fight he even fell in round 11 luckily Barrios couldn't take advantage of this and Thurman dominated again.
it would be very different maybe if the opponent wasn't Barrios when something like this happened again I think maybe he has no chance anymore.
In the future, I think he must increase his current physical endurance so that the strength he has and his vision in fighting can be accompanied by his strength in maintaining physical fitness.

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February 06, 2022, 08:35:26 PM
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As I watched the fight, Thurman clearly had the higher hand and indeed he really gave his fans a good fight and won via unanimous decision since he was inactive for nearly 3 years after he lost from the Philippine champ. What a comeback! He started slow but I don't think that he's having some ring rust on the ring as he clearly dominates almost every round. Gotta give some credits for Barrios as he also proved himself that he can keep up to the former champion.

Keith's next opponent? There's no rumors or possible match-up yet as of this time but this is already a sign that he's really back!
It was nice to see Thurman in such a good shape, after all as you said he had spend almost 3 years out of the ring and we know that no matter how good you are at something the moment you stop doing it eventually your level will begin to go down, but it seems this was not the case for Thurman and was able to overcome the inactivity he went through, I wonder if he will try to compensate for this and fight more often as there is no doubt he left a lot of money over the table due to that long period of inactivity.
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This is indeed a good comeback for Thurman. Now, he tested himself again inside the ring, he knows basically where to improve the next time around to beat other champions in his division. Spence Jr, Ugas or Crawford - they are on his list now. He maybe just waiting for the next call out of his opponent. And he should not take a long break again, he should take this opportunity while he is still below 40s.  Grin

It's almost a perfect fight this is something we expect, we all know how good Thurman we only have doubts because he has over 900 days of inactivity, now he has proven that he is back and he is better compared when he lose to Pacquiao, he really is motivated to make a huge comeback, he may not get that knock out but enough to school a former world champion.
@CaVO32, Thurman needs to shoot his shot but also has to do it wisely and smartly so he won't make the same mistake when he lost to Pacman through the habit of being overconfident.
@smyslov, I never doubted him winning the fight because he learn a lot fighting Pacman and if Pacman can beat him through a split decision so any of his division that wants to beat him must go the extra mile.

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February 06, 2022, 11:23:10 PM
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Why everyone is saying Thurman is in good shape? He clearly struggles guys. Please watch the fight again.

Although a win is a win, he has no chance to compete with the likes of Crawford or Spence. Even Ugas can beat him with that kind of performance.

We clearly see that Thurman is now getting rusty. He needs to fight another fighter but not on the same tier with Crawford or Spence.

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February 06, 2022, 11:46:01 PM
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Now, If he's going to fight Spence next, he should be ready with a lot of body shot punishment then.

He will just be pulverized by Spence. No chance to win with that level of performance he has shown. He was even injured after the fight.

Sorry to say that Thurman is now done in boxing. He can't now compete in a big title match. It's a big win against Barrios but he's not suitable now for a big title match. That's the impact of not being active for around 3 years.
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February 06, 2022, 11:51:34 PM
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Now, If he's going to fight Spence next, he should be ready with a lot of body shot punishment then.

He will just be pulverized by Spence. No chance to win with that level of performance he has shown. He was even injured after the fight.

Sorry to say that Thurman is now done in boxing. He can't now compete in a big title match. It's a big win against Barrios but he's not suitable now for a big title match. That's the impact of not being active for around 3 years.

maybe before going after spence or crawford, he needs to fight other smaller fights as he needs more conditioning of his body. if he will just go either spence or crawford after this, i don't think he will last in those 12 rounds. great that he won, which a lot were expecting like me. but after we have seen him fight with barrios, going to big match is like giving a solid win to his opponent.

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It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

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It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Not really serious I don't think it will take 4 months the most to heal the injury, he won't want to miss fighting the winner of the Ugas - Spence fight he is in a comeback trail  so he will do everything for the injury to heal fast so he can go back to the training he has a huge adversary coming to a boxer ten times better than Barrios which is Errol Spence

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Thurman admitted, however, he hurt his left hand in the third.

“It was a left uppercut, and I bruised one of the knuckles,” Thurman said. “It made me not want to throw that punch anymore.

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February 07, 2022, 03:52:29 AM
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Why everyone is saying Thurman is in good shape? He clearly struggles guys. Please watch the fight again.

Because if you look at the score and what the boxing community says, it is almost the same.

Although a win is a win, he has no chance to compete with the likes of Crawford or Spence. Even Ugas can beat him with that kind of performance.

We clearly see that Thurman is now getting rusty. He needs to fight another fighter but not on the same tier with Crawford or Spence.

This I have to agree with you, yes, Crawford and Spence compared to Thurman is way above as far as boxing skills is concerned.

I can't find any source about his injury in this fight. I think what @harizen has posted is related to Thurman's first injury rest.

Thurman fights Danny Garcia - won but got injured in his elbow. Take a 22 month rest to heal then fight Josesito Lopez.

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February 07, 2022, 04:11:40 AM
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It appears that I was mistaken hehe. The winner for this fight will challenge the winner of Errol Spence versus Yordenis Ugas for the WBC championship. I reckon that the WBC should have given the opportunity to Boots Ennis and let Keith Thurman fight against a real welterweight. It appears someone is giving Thurman an easy fight hehe. This might not make his challenge against either Spence or Ugas appear very exciting.

@bisdak. Thank you again for the advice hehehe.

That's a wise move of Team Thurman in making a come back fight. IMO, Barrios is a B-level fighter and have not yet tested a true welterweight so making him an opponent could somehow be called a cherry picking in my view but given the inactivity of Thurman, that's a wise decision.

Thurman was sharp in this fight and i could say that one or two more tune up fights, he would be ready for Errol Spence or Crawford if he will be active this year, i mean no taking a vacation for 18 months hehe.

Congrats to all the Thurman believers in this forum  Smiley.

However, Barrios was the tune up fight and his next fight appear to be versus the winner of Spence versus Ugas for the WBC championship hehehe. Thurman made a good decision in choosing to fight for the winner of that fight who is certainly going to be Spencer. There is more money in challenging Spencer than Crawford hehehehe.

It is also very arguable if he will be ready for the 2 kings of welterweight unless he is similar to Manny Pacquiao who improved until his 40s.



At the Michelob Ultra Arena in Las Vegas, Keith Thurman made a long overdue return to action, and ‘One Time’ banked twelve rounds in a unanimous decision win against Mario Barrios at the top of a Premier Boxing Champions bill. The bout served as a WBC welterweight title eliminator.

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February 07, 2022, 04:29:13 AM
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^^ Definitely is a fight that will make Thurman good in his return. Unfortunately, it was to be Barrios the victim here.

So for sure Thurman will be at ring side when Spence and Ugas fight. And probably will go on the stage, make some noise and ask for whoever the winner is to be his next fight. Gonna be explosive fight next and we can't wait for it.
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February 07, 2022, 04:38:14 AM
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Why everyone is saying Thurman is in good shape? He clearly struggles guys. Please watch the fight again.

Although a win is a win, he has no chance to compete with the likes of Crawford or Spence. Even Ugas can beat him with that kind of performance.

We clearly see that Thurman is now getting rusty. He needs to fight another fighter but not on the same tier with Crawford or Spence.
I've rewatch the fight and it's clear Thurman is really dominating the fight, he isn't struggles. But yeah his skills still wouldn't able to beat Crawford or Spence, they've higher skills and active... while Thurman came back after 2 years hiatus. Probably a rematch with Porter might be a good idea since Porter has a good skill and already fought with Crawford, Spence and Ugas.


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It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.
While it is the Age always matter in Boxing yet the activities will contribute more , the practicing and the actual training is always the concept that a Boxer needs to pursue his career , so i hope even if he is healing injuries yet he needs to be active still with small training .

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Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.
with that long pausing from boxing ? I'm not sure if He'll have a great opponent again if He'll come back .









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February 07, 2022, 09:39:28 AM
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^^ Definitely is a fight that will make Thurman good in his return. Unfortunately, it was to be Barrios the victim here.

So for sure Thurman will be at ring side when Spence and Ugas fight. And probably will go on the stage, make some noise and ask for whoever the winner is to be his next fight. Gonna be explosive fight next and we can't wait for it.

After this win, he might be there to expose himself from the media's attentions. He might grab the chance to call for another fight, though it's not sure if he will entertain by the winner since Crawford might be the next target. But this win gives him credit to have another chance to chase the belt.

We will be waiting for new discussions to whoever Thurman will be fighting next.. Roll Eyes Wink

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February 07, 2022, 09:40:39 AM
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It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.
While it is the Age always matter in Boxing yet the activities will contribute more , the practicing and the actual training is always the concept that a Boxer needs to pursue his career , so i hope even if he is healing injuries yet he needs to be active still with small training .


That is not good for him, he work hard for his comeback and had an impressive win but this happened. I guess his career is not really destined to make him a great boxer, if he comes back and fights a champion, I now have doubt that he could win, most likely he will lose due to ring rust and the age factor as well. Being active in boxing is very important, long layoff could really affect the performance of a boxer.

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It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Can you share the source of that report? I'm looking for the said report but could not find it. If Thurman will rest again, I guess the injury is really serious and I'm sure his future opponent already marks that spot of his body so they can beat him by his weakness.

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It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Can you share the source of that report? I'm looking for the said report but could not find it. If Thurman will rest again, I guess the injury is really serious and I'm sure his future opponent already marks that spot of his body so they can beat him by his weakness.

No, there is no serious injury in Thurman after his fight against Barrios. He has handled his body as well as his opponent well. He's got a good start which gave him the advantage for the rest of the fight.

I think harizen is mistaken. He must be reading an old news. That 22-month hiatus was what happened to Thurman after beating Danny Garcia for the WBC welterweight title. Thurman had an elbow surgery after that. The fight was in 2017. His next fight happened in 2019, two years later.
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It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Can you share the source of that report? I'm looking for the said report but could not find it. If Thurman will rest again, I guess the injury is really serious and I'm sure his future opponent already marks that spot of his body so they can beat him by his weakness.

No, there is no serious injury in Thurman after his fight against Barrios. He has handled his body as well as his opponent well. He's got a good start which gave him the advantage for the rest of the fight.

I think harizen is mistaken. He must be reading an old news. That 22-month hiatus was what happened to Thurman after beating Danny Garcia for the WBC welterweight title. Thurman had an elbow surgery after that. The fight was in 2017. His next fight happened in 2019, two years later.
Yep, as far as I can remember that injury was back and it was after the Danny Garcia fight. Although he had a hand injury after the Manny Pacquiao fight. But there was no reports of a injury after the Barrios fight.

And as expected by the majority here, Thurman won by UD as Barrios has no answer and just like won 2-3 rounds on the judges score card and it was a lopsided win by Keith.

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February 07, 2022, 12:38:20 PM
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I'm going to lock this thread for good. And again, thanks for all the comments for you guys. You truly knows your boxing as majority was able to predict a Thurman victory by unanimous decision.

So let's see what will be his next fight, could be either of the two, Crawford and Errol Spence. And congrats to those who won in this fight.

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