[Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5

[chaser15]

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

[24Kt]

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

Definitely a very good lesson for him as a boxer when he lost to Pacquiao. With that fight, I believe he realized that age doesn't matter, it depends on how strong you are and how prepared you are as a fighter. And with that in mind, maybe, one of the reasons why he is motivated to continue his fight inside the ring. If Thurman wins, he will regain the confidence of his fans and maybe, we will see bigger fight after this.

[btc_angela]

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

Definitely a very good lesson for him as a boxer when he lost to Pacquiao. With that fight, I believe he realized that age doesn't matter, it depends on how strong you are and how prepared you are as a fighter. And with that in mind, maybe, one of the reasons why he is motivated to continue his fight inside the ring. If Thurman wins, he will regain the confidence of his fans and maybe, we will see bigger fight after this.

He did prepare for that fight, unfortunately, Manny is the better fighter that night. Thurman tries to come back but Manny is stronger on the later rounds.

So definitely a lesson learned for him, not to underestimate his opponent and really focus and if you trash talk, better know how to back it up because if you lost, it's going to be a long road to come back. For him it took him 2 years to finally get over. So we will see if he still what it takes to be with the best in the division.

[Fredomago]

He did prepare for that fight, unfortunately, Manny is the better fighter that night. Thurman tries to come back but Manny is stronger on the later rounds.

So definitely a lesson learned for him, not to underestimate his opponent and really focus and if you trash talk, better know how to back it up because if you lost, it's going to be a long road to come back. For him it took him 2 years to finally get over. So we will see if he still what it takes to be with the best in the division.

He did everything but Manny still have that strength to overpower him, even he tried to push back but the earlier knock down counts a lot for that win, maybe this time he will start early and make sure that he will not repeat that mistake, he's still in his good form even he went away for some time.

He needs to be more focus if he wanted to come back, as we all know that boxing got a huge money making sports.

If he wanted that luxury he needs to win this one and start to bring his name back in line..

[mirakal]

He did prepare for that fight, unfortunately, Manny is the better fighter that night. Thurman tries to come back but Manny is stronger on the later rounds.

So definitely a lesson learned for him, not to underestimate his opponent and really focus and if you trash talk, better know how to back it up because if you lost, it's going to be a long road to come back. For him it took him 2 years to finally get over. So we will see if he still what it takes to be with the best in the division.

He did everything but Manny still have that strength to overpower him, even he tried to push back but the earlier knock down counts a lot for that win, maybe this time he will start early and make sure that he will not repeat that mistake, he's still in his good form even he went away for some time.

He needs to be more focus if he wanted to come back, as we all know that boxing got a huge money making sports.

If he wanted that luxury he needs to win this one and start to bring his name back in line..

He was aware that Manny has the power to knock him out so he was not so aggressive at the start, but with this opponent, I think he will not hesitate to show his skills and as much as possible end the fight early to create hype on the news. Thurman is a big name in the sports of boxing, if he wasn't defeated by Pacman, he could still be at the top ranking, so we should not underestimate him as he is on the same level as Spence and Crawford.

[TimeTeller]

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future, that will be a very good treat to all their boxing fans.
So now, Thurman should really win this fight and accept more challenges before he goes out of the limelight.
We will know who will be the one reigning in their division in the next years' to come. Also, there's upcoming Spence vs Ugas, so let's see.
I hope their respective promoters will not avoid each other, and wait til one of the boxers is older to let the fight happen.
Just look at what happen with Pacquiao vs Mayweather. They should have fought in their younger years.

[Viscore]

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

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Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.

[Ziskinberg]

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

That's an exciting fight, majority are on Spence to win, but Ugas is really a tough champion, he hasn't been KO in his past losses so I can say that he is a durable fighter who could give Spence his first loss then he will be out of the top boxers in the ranking.

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Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.

He has an easier journey, but now that his contract with Top rank is over, he can get a more challenging fight to push his limit.

[harizen]

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

That's an exciting fight, majority are on Spence to win, but Ugas is really a tough champion, he hasn't been KO in his past losses so I can say that he is a durable fighter who could give Spence his first loss then he will be out of the top boxers in the ranking.

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Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.

He has an easier journey, but now that his contract with Top rank is over, he can get a more challenging fight to push his limit.

But for now, it will take at least a year or two before we see both boxers at the subject (Thurman or Barrios) to challenge either Spence, Ugas, or Crawford. Those 3 are expected to face each other this year to settle anything at Welterweight division.

My speculation is, if Thurman will win here, he won't go directly to a big challenge next. There will be at least 1-2 boxers on the mid-tier rank he will probably requested to fight instead of jumping right away to those in top. He can do that all this year.

[Botnake]

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future,

There is one, the fight between Spence and Ugas is a unification fight.

Ugas is currently the WBA welterweight champion while Spence is the WBC welterweight champion.

reference :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/541777 ..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/629465

That's an exciting fight, majority are on Spence to win, but Ugas is really a tough champion, he hasn't been KO in his past losses so I can say that he is a durable fighter who could give Spence his first loss then he will be out of the top boxers in the ranking.

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Crawford is just waiting because he is the current WBO welterweight champion.

He has an easier journey, but now that his contract with Top rank is over, he can get a more challenging fight to push his limit.

But for now, it will take at least a year or two before we see both boxers at the subject (Thurman or Barrios) to challenge either Spence, Ugas, or Crawford. Those 3 are expected to face each other this year to settle anything at Welterweight division.

My speculation is, if Thurman will win here, he won't go directly to a big challenge next. There will be at least 1-2 boxers on the mid-tier rank he will probably requested to fight instead of jumping right away to those in top. He can do that all this year.

His main purpose is to have a championship fight, so if he is given a chance, I'm sure he will grab it. Honestly, I have doubts that the Spence vs Crawford fight will happen anytime soon, why? because if they want to fight each other, it could have happen years ago.

[Yaunfitda]

If he wins this one, he will possibly line to call for another title fight. He's still young, and he still fits inside this division, just need to
win this upcoming fight and make his name to hype back,

He will now back again to the discussion with the same level of Spence Jr and Terence Crawford. If Thurman will win the fight and his next future fights, he can now also demand a unification fight if ever Spence or Crawford will retain their current weight class.

His loss to Pacquiao might be his wake-up call to further improve more. Let's see what he got on the day of the fight.

If there will be unification fight that will happen in the future, that will be a very good treat to all their boxing fans.
So now, Thurman should really win this fight and accept more challenges before he goes out of the limelight.
We will know who will be the one reigning in their division in the next years' to come. Also, there's upcoming Spence vs Ugas, so let's see.
I hope their respective promoters will not avoid each other, and wait til one of the boxers is older to let the fight happen.
Just look at what happen with Pacquiao vs Mayweather. They should have fought in their younger years.

Well for boxing promoters, this is business so we don't know if they are willing to put up a classic fight for the fans like unification because this promoters wanted to milk their fighters. Just like what you mentioned, Pacman and Mayweather didn't fight until there are in the downside of their career or at least when they are in their primes.

And there are a lot of names right now, Crawford, Spence are the top 2 and then we have Ugas. So Thurman will have to fight all this guys if he wants to unify the belt.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Thanks, I don't know that it's already available in our favorite crypto bookie here, I'll go check it and I'm willing to take that odds for sure since I believe Thurman is still capable of dominating his opponent and Barrios should not be a tough opponent for him.

Odd is decent considering Thurman's capabilities, though there are also fans for Barrios who will probably to take that odd too.
I like to see how Thurman will try to regain his old glory after that defeat against Pinoy legend Manny Pacquiao, it's a new
start for him, an opportunity to showcase his fighting skills and aim for another title fight.

Not bad if you will take this for Thurman if you really support this guy. 1.57 is fair enough for this favorite...

I'm taking it, it's a decent odds considering Thurman is a decent fighter as well. I can get 1.64 odds from another sportsbook as my account is entitled to a price boost, so that makes it more attractive. Good luck to us who believe in Thurman, hopefully, he will win this fight.

Something that has always caught my attention is boxing statistics because they are rarely wrong, years ago when I went to watch a fight, I was based on the preparation of each boxer, how hard was their training, what their coaches talked about. of them and everything that had to do with their physical preparation, of course this has to do with the assessment of each athlete. For now, the domain belongs to Thurman and I think it will continue to be the case, if we take these numbers into account they are very strong, however I have a lot of doubt about Barrios because he may surprise.

You will not be able to put your bet if you have doubts, you have to understand that this is gambling, we can bet and hope we win as we may also be wrong. For me, I would always choose Thurman, win or lose, no regret because that's my decision and I'm confident with it.

You are right, I have seen in several forums that have to do with sports, and especially with Boxing, I clearly see that there is a lot of favoritism in betting in favor of Thurman, what I have noticed is that most of the time the who have the bets in their favor end up winning, there is very little probability that they will lose, of course I am looking at this from a mathematical point of view and leaving aside another criterion, whether it is watching videos on YouTube of fans or something like that, that really sometimes they tend to interfere in making a decision, or in a sports program on TV, which is also something valid.

[carlisle1]

Well for boxing promoters, this is business so we don't know if they are willing to put up a classic fight for the fans like unification because this promoters wanted to milk their fighters. Just like what you mentioned, Pacman and Mayweather didn't fight until there are in the downside of their career or at least when they are in their primes.

And there are a lot of names right now, Crawford, Spence are the top 2 and then we have Ugas. So Thurman will have to fight all this guys if he wants to unify the belt.

He needs to wait though, after Spence and Ugas, whoever loses that fight might be a good stepping stone for him after winning from his fight.

We know that promoters love to see fans calling for their champs, and with the help of social medias, it can easily hype it up and bring noises,

there are fans that will eagerly call for Thurman to face anyone with his same class, still got a lot of time for him, he just need to win this one

and the rest will be on its way..

[Hamphser]

Well for boxing promoters, this is business so we don't know if they are willing to put up a classic fight for the fans like unification because this promoters wanted to milk their fighters. Just like what you mentioned, Pacman and Mayweather didn't fight until there are in the downside of their career or at least when they are in their primes.

And there are a lot of names right now, Crawford, Spence are the top 2 and then we have Ugas. So Thurman will have to fight all this guys if he wants to unify the belt.

He needs to wait though, after Spence and Ugas, whoever loses that fight might be a good stepping stone for him after winning from his fight.

We know that promoters love to see fans calling for their champs, and with the help of social medias, it can easily hype it up and bring noises,

there are fans that will eagerly call for Thurman to face anyone with his same class, still got a lot of time for him, he just need to win this one

and the rest will be on its way..

Needed up some sort of conditioning his body and would back on his track and by winning this upcoming fight would be the way on doing that but the next fight schedule would be always questionable
specially if we are on this pandemic situation which it is really hard to determine on where it would end up which it did really affect any industries out there in terms of
fight postponement and reschedules.
Thurman though shouldn't really be that confident yet Barrios isnt something that would easily be beaten up imho.

[Kemarit]

Very interesting statement coming from Keith Thurman himself. During his interview with Ray Flores in "Time Out With Ray Flores", he says that this fight might be a WBC title eliminator match.

So what it means is that the winner of this fight might go up against the winner of Spence vs Ugas winner. Very interesting so we will see how will it turn out.

Go forward to 21:06 if you don't want to listen to the full interview:

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZRZmiLZ8oE)

[TravelMug]

^^ What a revelation from Thurman, it might be a eliminator and might be they are in next in line for the winner of Ugas and Spence.

However, we have to think that Ugas vs Spence also involves other organisations belt not just WBC, so WBC might sanction it but other bodies might not.

So that statement might not be true at all, maybe Thurman just want to hype the fight with this subtle small talk.

[Baofeng]

WBC Pres Sulaiman said it's not final

“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

[Jating]

WBC Pres Sulaiman said it's not final

“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Maybe Thurman shouldn't let the public know, so we don't know what he blurted out that information in public when everything is not final yet.

So maybe WBC will now says otherwise, so they could have lost that chance to be the next fighter against the winner of the Spence Jr vs Ugas. Sometimes it's better to keep our mouth shut and let the WBC tells it to the public. Now Keith derails all the plans.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

WBC Pres Sulaiman said it's not final

“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Maybe Thurman shouldn't let the public know, so we don't know what he blurted out that information in public when everything is not final yet.

So maybe WBC will now says otherwise, so they could have lost that chance to be the next fighter against the winner of the Spence Jr vs Ugas. Sometimes it's better to keep our mouth shut and let the WBC tells it to the public. Now Keith derails all the plans.

I agree, there should be information like this that shouldn't be shared to the public media and he should keep it for himself after the fight. And it might have jeopardize the potential fight in the future.

But he really need to win first against Barrios and it should be impressive before WBC will allow the winner to fight either Ugas and Spence for their belt.

[Kemarit]

WBC Pres Sulaiman said it's not final

“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Ok, it make sense from WBC to somewhat deny this statement from Thurman and says it is not final.

But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking this could be a eliminator indeed and they will make it official after the fight or maybe after Thurman wins. If ever Barrios win though, I think it will be shelve back by WBC. So they want Thurman to win and face the winner of the Ugas and Spence.