stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility

[papestation]

I have advised stake that i have a gambling problem in the past they have a 24 hour cooling period so if you self exclude you can

bring yourself back into the game. So for that reason on October 20st i asked eddie personally on telegram as he was my vip to ban me. Then on october 21st

Eddie says i am permanently banned self excluded. Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

( i have attached pictures as well as a post i made almost 2 years ago regarding same issue at askgamblers.com looks like they haven't improved at all)



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[robelneo]

I have advised stake that i have a gambling problem in the past they have a 24 hour cooling period so if you self exclude you can

bring yourself back into the game. So for that reason on October 20st i asked eddie personally on telegram as he was my vip to ban me. Then on october 21st

Eddie says i am permanently banned self excluded. Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

( i have attached pictures as well as a post i made almost 2 years ago regarding same issue at askgamblers.com looks like they haven't improved at all)

You lose the money you deposit so you want it back, will you still complain if you won a huge amount of money I would have admired you if you won and returned the money then made a complaint, this is the second complaint so far, this is something that Stake.com
should address, this is not even a scam complaint but an issue of their system not functioning as it should or delayed on implementation.

[electronicash]

i don't get why you deposit when in fact the reason you want self-exclusion is for you not to spend. yet you deposited an amount to play and lose. the moment you saw that you have deposited and saw that the amount was credited means the transaction went on. that's not a problem since the wallet doesn't know whether you are excluded.

blaming them for that and you losing that amount is not thier fault. you should have avoided visiting stake instead.

[Bitinity]

i don't get why you deposit when in fact the reason you want self-exclusion is for you not to spend. yet you deposited an amount to play and lose. the moment you saw that you have deposited and saw that the amount was credited means the transaction went on. that's not a problem since the wallet doesn't know whether you are excluded.

It is what is called by gambling problem, someone who is in a bad gambling problem is unable to control himself. Even if he asked for self excluded, he may find other way to come back if he cant control himself. He needs a help from professional if he want to get rid of the problem.

blaming them for that and you losing that amount is not thier fault. you should have avoided visiting stake instead.

This is part of the gambling problem, someone will blame others for what he did but to be honest I havent read about the self exclusion terms in Stake. I do not know how it works so I'm posting opinion in general understanding only that someone who have gambling problem should blame themselves and try to find the best solution.

[davis196]

I know that gambling addiction is a SERIOUS problem,but I can't imagine how the casino should be held responsible in this situation.
Basically every gambler can deposit and waste his money on a casino and then he could say "please refund my money,I'm a gambling addict,I don't know what I'm doing".
What happens with the gambling business,if all casinos decide to refund all the money?
If the gambler gets banned/self excluded from one casino,he could find another casino and gamble there.
Is the second casino's fault,that a gambling addict decides to waste his money there?
It seems to me that all casinos are guilty for gambling addicts,but this is the same as blaming alcohol and tobacco companies for all the alcoholics and smokers in the world.

I don't understand the VIP system at stake.com,but isn't this another way to hook the gamblers and make them stay and gamble on the casino?

[YOSHIE]

So for that reason on October 20st i asked eddie personally on telegram as he was my vip to ban me. Then on october 21st

Why want trouble, if don't want trouble, What you are doing is strange to me, usually people withdraw all the funds in the gambling account, then they contact the gambling site if they want to be blocked.

I'm really confused with you, ordered to be banned, then play, deposit and withdraw funds, OP, actually you before contacting eddie, you are mature and take risks, so this is it, when you deposit money before you ask for a ban or after a ban you ask to open an account again and deposit.

Your problem is purely you with eddie, not a public matter, so contact eddie again, if he wants to refund your second deposit, confusing.

[Kakmakr]

OP, I get the feeling that you are not very serious about your self-exclusion, because you have found a loophole for you to come back to Stake to gamble and then you want to blame them or try to gamble for free. (trying to get your last two deposits and blaming them)

Just follow the instructions and the self-exclusion protocol ...so that your account can be permanently closed and be done with it, if you really have a problem. The cool down period are there for a reason, because some people get hot headed for a few days after a couple of losses and start the process.. and then when they cool down, they want to get back in. 

[coin-investor]

I know that gambling addiction is a SERIOUS problem,but I can't imagine how the casino should be held responsible in this situation.
Basically every gambler can deposit and waste his money on a casino and then he could say "please refund my money,I'm a gambling addict,I don't know what I'm doing".
What happens with the gambling business,if all casinos decide to refund all the money?

It will not work if Stake.com let them refund their money, there will be hundreds or even thousands of players doing the same thing if you deposit, play, and lose you can't refund you are playing with the intention to win and you should be responsible on all your actions if you want to get excluded it's not immediate you should request it until it is granted but while waiting, you should avoid anything related to gambling.

[yayayo]

I know that gambling addiction is a SERIOUS problem,but I can't imagine how the casino should be held responsible in this situation.
Basically every gambler can deposit and waste his money on a casino and then he could say "please refund my money,I'm a gambling addict,I don't know what I'm doing".
What happens with the gambling business,if all casinos decide to refund all the money?

It will not work if Stake.com let them refund their money, there will be hundreds or even thousands of players doing the same thing if you deposit, play, and lose you can't refund you are playing with the intention to win and you should be responsible on all your actions if you want to get excluded it's not immediate you should request it until it is granted but while waiting, you should avoid anything related to gambling.

It will always be easy to create a new account through certain detours. Players should also take their own responsibility. Stake has already done what is within their means. I am convinced that anyone who wants to gamble will do so. Otherwise, go back and play at another site. Casinos do not have to return the money either, the player is not forced to play.

ya.ya.yo!

[ralle14]

Gambling sites offer different duration on their self-exclusion because not everyone is willing to close their account for good.

I remember recalling a similar issue where their player also contacted eddie instead of their support when it comes to handling self-exclusion and eventually it led to a misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the thread but it was posted here somewhere though.

[Reatim]

Sorry for your losses mate and i can feel you because i have a brother that has the same problem and he really cannot control His desire in betting even how hard he tries.

But The site has their own rules that i believe you did not follow instead i think you intentionally not commit yourself so you can still Play and put the blame on them , you have been told to complete all the requirements but according to the replies on you there is a mistake on your part.

So you cannot Blame the site instead you must Go for professional help than Blaming the gambling site.

Because in your case of addiction , even Stake.com put you in permanent banning yet you will find other gambling site to Deposit and Play that is what you will surely do so Please never Blame anyone or anything because of your addiction , this is your own fight and not by anyone.

[mindrust]

I have advised stake that i have a gambling problem in the past they have a 24 hour cooling period so if you self exclude you can

bring yourself back into the game. So for that reason on October 20st i asked eddie personally on telegram as he was my vip to ban me. Then on october 21st

Eddie says i am permanently banned self excluded. Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

( i have attached pictures as well as a post i made almost 2 years ago regarding same issue at askgamblers.com looks like they haven't improved at all)


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Had you some up with sumthin like I dunno "Stake cheats! Their platform is not honest!!" then you would have a chance maybe but now, you don't have any.

You gotta stop blaming other people for your problems man. You obviously got a problem, you should knock yourself to the nearest hospital man. Gambling ain't a friggin joke man. Money don't grow up on the trees man. Nobody put a gun on your head man, you deposited and lost aaalll fair and squaare. So, stop bichin. Man.

[mindrust]

I'm not into victim-blaming but I do hope this issue will be addressed by the Stake.com management, so the exclusion will be in real-time, OP has no control anymore over how and when he wants to play, the urge is really strong, but it's not right that he ask for a refund, it's already given that if you deposit and play, and you lose fair, you cannot make a refund, there is no cheating involve here, you have to take it as a loss and ask that Stake.com exclude you so you can start your healing process.

Don't be that naive. C'mon eh? How do you think casinos make their money? These losers are their bread and butter. What difference does it make if there was a permanent lock? He could have created another account and played anyway. If he wants to play, there is nothing on earth to stop him.

Stake did nothing wrong.

[acroman08]

Don't be that naive. C'mon eh? How do you think casinos make their money? These losers are their bread and butter. What difference does it make if there was a permanent lock? He could have created another account and played anyway. If he wants to play, there is nothing on earth to stop him.

yeah, that may be true but why hasn't the account been permanently closed(from what I understand on the OP's post. his account is not permanently banned/closed after asking Eddie.)?. it is stake.com's responsibility to close the account when OP asked them to close it. if the OP created another account and gambled, then that is entirely his fault and stake.com would not have any responsibility for it.

[Danydee]

 Next time instead of making deposit or any action you should consider sharing your problem with a medical specialist, a Doctor..
 I don't see how Eddie or anyone else should be held responsible of your own mistakes

[crzy]

Why ask for a money you already lose in the first place? They can bring back your money if you didn't use it to play but unfortunately you took advantage of that privilege again and now blame stake for that losses. Well, you cannot totally changed if you can't help yourself even if they have a responsible gambling, you still the one in charge for your action, so don't blame any site for that attitude. If you are going to ask any site to get banned again, better to commit on that and never come back, this can be more effective if you don't talk too much about gambling.

[papestation]

Guys in 2020 they didn't ban your ip,bitcoin wallet or anything + they didn't do kyc in 2021 they did so had they banned me the urges would have stop me by alot. Because now i  know if i win a big jackpot i will need to kyc. This is not about my gambling problem this is about stake failing its duties to self exclude especially when i message not no one but the owner of the site Eddie who was my vip host. .

[Saisher]

i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

In the first place, if they let you in, you should address this to the support but instead, you deposit and play, and when you lose put the blame on Stake.com, obviously you are crying over spilled milk, no one here will support you because you lose and wants to refund, it will be different if you won, you can only ask for refunds if there is a glitch in a system but if it's your fault in playing, the blame is on you.

[pawanjain]

Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys.

It is indeed your fault. If you have a gambling addiction then it is your fault because you did not control yourself from gambling and losing too much.
If you would have controlled yourself from gambling too much then you would have obviously not lost the money.
It's good that you are trying to restrict yourself from gambling by asking them to ban you but if that's not happening then you shouldn't deposit money at the first place.
You can't blame them for allowing you to gamble but you should blame yourself for gambling without having control on yourself.

[bittraffic]

Got no other things to do but deposit some money even after he just tried to avoid playing?
The temptation is really that irresistible that even if there are lots of other things to do like watching Netflix movies or simply hanging out with friends but he chose to gamble. Maybe stop holding your phone or don't sit on your desktop yet until you see yourself not tempted anymore to gamble.

If this is the case he really needs someone to watch him out or go to rehab, he is hurting himself papestation.