stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility

[yahoo62278]

I missed the part where it's a sites responsibility to keep you from gambling. Yes I know alot have self exclusion crap, but in the grand scheme of things it is on you to seek help if you have a problem.

Break your laptop, call a gambling hotline, get a date, or anything to get your mind off gambling.

[aioc]

Eddie says i am permanently banned self excluded. Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

You are miserable because you are out of control I doubt if you are not really playing even if you are granted exclusion by Stake.com, there are lots of online casinos here and I don't believe you only have Stake.com to play, compulsive gamblers have 2 to 5 casinos to play with and it's beyond logic to ask for a refund when you lose when you play and you lose fair no way you can ask for a refund, we can call this abuse.

[wxa7115]

The advice is actually right, you need some serious help their buddy. Asking for a refund after losing is never going to happen if it's an outright activity that you did there.
There's really a serious matter on your case OP and those are signs and you have to admit it and don't put the blame to any casino where you voluntarily deposit your money and gambled with it.

True, it is someones willingness to make out some deposit and you havent been forced to do so even though Stake does have some fault on this one since they do still let those players who had
been asking for some exclusion but actually this kind of feature is useless if that player does have that severe gambling addiction on which they would really be finding
ways for  them to play no matter what and i never heard that casino do make out some refund on someone who do losses into their platform.
This thing is impossible.

Stake failed on providing a service that they supposedly offer and that is a problem, but just as you say if we are honest about this if the OP did not lost that money at Stake they would have lost it in another casino anyway.

It is clear they have a problem and at least they have taken the first step to try to solve it, which is to recognize they have a problem, but now they need to take even more steps towards overcoming that addiction, because if they do not it something like this is going to keep happening to them.

[pinggoki]

Sorry to hear that you have made a loss and it hapened while you decided to stop gambling. But unfortunately, they have no self exclusion period for a long time. In this case, you cant do anything against the gambling site but you can post against the accused person if tge person had any account on this forum.

It's not really the responsibility of the website to have that kind of thing, I mean what's going to change or what's the difference it's going to make if they have that, a gambling addict will always find a way to satisfy their thrills.

[AicecreaME]

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Gambling addiction is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. It was a good thing that you advised the stake back then to have you self-excluded to avoid further damage on your mental health and overall well-being. Stake should be responsible and should be liable for their actions and lack thereof from what had happened. Because their staff told you you have been permanently banned already, but turns out it didn't happen and you still managed to enter, deposit, and play some games once more, which resulted in losing your money deposited. Actually, both of the parties had their fair shares of fault, hence, the best thing and justifiable thing that could happen between the two of you is to meet halfway. Because the moment you managed to logged in, you should have contacted their customer support and reported to them instead of depositing again.

I just hope next time the casinos would be more keen on their actions most especially if it involve gambling problems because players are the ones suffering from it. Although despite this, I also think that refunding just because you lost is unfair too because if it happens that you managed to deposit, play, and win, I doubt if you would ever surrender your prize and just volunteer to get your money back. Gambling is not a charity after all. It is also a business that needs to profit. Hence, refunding without undergoing the proper process would be a loss to them. Just try to reach them out once more and comply to what they will ask you. And then just meet halfway since both of you have your shortcomings.

[nakamura12]

It's not stake's fault when you lose a bet. It is entirely your fault. Maybe it was a bug since you didn't get ban from violating their rules or something like but a request made by you to self-excluded ban. Gambling sites are like that, when you ask them to ban temporary or permanent is you cannot deposit or withdraw on their site but in your case is you are able to deposit and bet. My guess is as stated above that it is bug/issue or you aren't ban yet.

[stomachgrowls]

It's not stake's fault when you lose a bet. It is entirely your fault. Maybe it was a bug since you didn't get ban from violating their rules or something like but a request made by you to self-excluded ban. Gambling sites are like that, when you ask them to ban temporary or permanent is you cannot deposit or withdraw on their site but in your case is you are able to deposit and bet. My guess is as stated above that it is bug/issue or you aren't ban yet.

Totally agree on this since we cannot blame the site if we lose are money because in the first place, its gambling and you should really understand the risk of it before you complain. Yes, you asked them to banned you from gambling but if you didn’t help yourself to stop thinking about it, you can still fall on that trap and that’s what happened to OP. Learn from it and commit to stop from gambling, don’t ever try to deposit on any site again so you wont blame them.

Once you do make out deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that its your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldnt take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
in regard with your own action not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and its on your self will do knows which one is bad and which one should be done.

[Shamm]

Once you do make out a deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that it's your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldn't take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
regarding your action, not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and it's on your self-will to know which one is bad and which one should be done.

It seems that OP did not control himself and become paranoid that's why his own mistake he blame stake.com instead of himself.
He is already addicted to gambling for sure he will make a way to gamble than when he loses a lot and start blaming the site/casino.
Little tip Op you must gamble some of your money and not all bet an amount you afford to loss.

[papestation]

Once you do make out a deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that it's your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldn't take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
regarding your action, not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and it's on your self-will to know which one is bad and which one should be done.

It seems that OP did not control himself and become paranoid that's why his own mistake he blame stake.com instead of himself.
He is already addicted to gambling for sure he will make a way to gamble than when he loses a lot and start blaming the site/casino.
Little tip Op you must gamble some of your money and not all bet an amount you afford to loss.

yes i am addicted to gambling lost several thousands so stake.com over 2 years. All i am asking for them is to return less than $2000 of what i deposited because they breached the self exclusion responsible gambling policy. Now days i have limited myself to gambling because i am self excluded at all the well known casino. That is the reason why i asked them to ban me because now they do kyc and now i know if i win big jackpot i wont be legible to win it know because of the kyc. Plus i am a platinum so i get cashback i won't start again because of the shit bonuses they offer to newbies now days.

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

[HUSTLER]

Gambling sites offer different duration on their self-exclusion because not everyone is willing to close their account for good. I remember recalling a similar issue where their player also contacted eddie instead of their support when it comes to handling self-exclusion and eventually it led to a misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the thread but it was posted here somewhere though.

[Haunebu]

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

I can't understand how you feel since I never had a gambling addiction issue, but I am pretty sure that you won't get a single cent back based on my research regarding similar cases in the crypto gambling world.

You clearly don't like Stake anymore which is why it's better to shift to other sites which satisfy what you are looking for(Better self-exclusion rules etc) asap in my opinion.

[stomachgrowls]

Once you do make out a deposit on your own will then no one should be blamed out but only yourself and just like others been saying that it's your fault even though the site does have some lapses too

but in general aspect then you are the ones who do make out such decision and once you lost then its final and you couldn't take it back no matter how you do argue or complaint because this is
regarding your action, not theirs.

Understand the risks involved in gambling and it's on your self-will to know which one is bad and which one should be done.

It seems that OP did not control himself and become paranoid that's why his own mistake he blame stake.com instead of himself.
He is already addicted to gambling for sure he will make a way to gamble than when he loses a lot and start blaming the site/casino.
Little tip Op you must gamble some of your money and not all bet an amount you afford to loss.

yes i am addicted to gambling lost several thousands so stake.com over 2 years. All i am asking for them is to return less than $2000 of what i deposited because they breached the self exclusion responsible gambling policy. Now days i have limited myself to gambling because i am self excluded at all the well known casino. That is the reason why i asked them to ban me because now they do kyc and now i know if i win big jackpot i wont be legible to win it know because of the kyc. Plus i am a platinum so i get cashback i won't start again because of the shit bonuses they offer to newbies now days.

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

So why not move on since you dont expect for them to give you money? It is unlikely that they would be doing so since you are the one who had able to make out such step even if you do know that

you are self excluded but somehow Stake does have some mistakes on here but i dont believe that they will really be granting out on what you are requesting even if you are a Plat member.

Lets just hope that they would really be making out some considerations but dont let your hopes up because it would really just frustrate you.

[acroman08]

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sure, they are somewhat liable for not permanently closing your account and I think(entirely my opionion) compensation of some kind should be granted to you but asking for the money you deposited because they breached their own policy is not gonna happen.

you are addicted. If you ask me, the best thing you can do is let it go and seek help. if you keep going it'll just get worse and worse until you hit rock bottom.

[acroman08]

AFAIK, Stake doesn't confiscate the winnings and deposit amount unless you seriously abused the promotion with tricky methods. This is not acceptable but Stake puts the account on withdrawing only mode that the user can take out all deposits to the original deposit address.  

yeah, I've also read before that when an account is excluded and it still has a balance inside, stake.com will manually give back the remaining balance to the owner of the account. also, what I meant when I said "the money you deposited" is the money he deposited and lost(when he gambled) on the account in question.

[arwin100]

But yeah i don't expect them to give me money they spent a ton on sponsors and the bonuses they give now days went down hill.

I can't understand how you feel since I never had a gambling addiction issue, but I am pretty sure that you won't get a single cent back based on my research regarding similar cases in the crypto gambling world.

You clearly don't like Stake anymore which is why it's better to shift to other sites which satisfy what you are looking for(Better self-exclusion rules etc) asap in my opinion.

Mostly people have addiction do crazy things and that include blaming someone on what heavy lose they encounter and that include this we see several acts of action like a user telling that the casino is scam due to what they encounter.

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

[bitterguy28]

I missed the part where it's a sites responsibility to keep you from gambling. Yes I know alot have self exclusion crap, but in the grand scheme of things it is on you to seek help if you have a problem.

Break your laptop, call a gambling hotline, get a date, or anything to get your mind off gambling.

Hahaha, I love the advises Yahoo in which the only thing that will save Him from gambling because the problem here is even the gambling site banned you still there are lot of ways to gambling unless all the gambling site in the world will ban you then that is different problem lol.
anyway OP has the problem and not stake, we must understand that because we are all gambler and we know how hard to escape from the desire to gamble.

[slaman29]

OP, first of all, you won't get any pity here. If you have a gambling problem or any kind of addiction problem, here is not where you look for help. And to my knowledge, all gamblers with addiction, no matter what, if they want back in they'll find a way back in.

On the side note, I am not in favor of any side here, but also to my understanding, a casino that says it has self exclusion must allow someone with a problem to immediately self-exclude themselves without the need for a casino's admin to intervene. This is why it is called self exclusion in the first place. I am not saying it is anybody's fault but you can't say you allow self-exclusion if you can't do it easily. So can you at Stake? It appears from the screenshots not.

But does that mean they don't have gambling responsibility? Absolutely not. They have it. Just not the way OP would like it.

[Haunebu]

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

I disagree. Avoiding your issues is the wrong way to stop any form of addiction completely. Such a method would only serve to amplify his addiction basically. That isn't how therapy works.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling usually focus more on the money aspect when compared to the fun aspect due to which they lose control easily.

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

[sovie]

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

[peter0425]

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

OP Needs a Professional help and this cannot be answered by this forum or by requesting a permanent banning in gambling site.
also putting blame against Stake.com is wrong because i see no problem from the site it is OP who expect too much as help when it is clearly this is His own mistake.

But like what Yahoo says above, this is OP's obligation to comply in helps and not blaming anyone.