stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility

[Naficopa]

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

OP Needs a Professional help and this cannot be answered by this forum or by requesting a permanent banning in gambling site.
also putting blame against Stake.com is wrong because i see no problem from the site it is OP who expect too much as help when it is clearly this is His own mistake.

But like what Yahoo says above, this is OP's obligation to comply in helps and not blaming anyone.

The case is very complicated, and I'm afraid the truth is just in the middle.
The OP has a problem and Stake.com doesn't make it easy for him.
Of course, in situation of lose, OP tries to get money back, and certainly wouldn't try to give it back in the event of a win.
We shouldn't decide here, but I don't think it would be bad if Stake.com gave this money back anonymously and permanently blocked this user. However, this should be settled privately between these two outside the public.

[hyudien]

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

I disagree. Avoiding your issues is the wrong way to stop any form of addiction completely. Such a method would only serve to amplify his addiction basically. That isn't how therapy works.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling usually focus more on the money aspect when compared to the fun aspect due to which they lose control easily.

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

You are right, stopping must be a gradual process. The problem is that in total it will have a bad impact on gamblers who have already made betting a useful place. Reducing the portion of gambling a little better if you want to quit the addiction. What is the OP realm is also in fact he is not with all the applicable provisions so find another lighter alternative to get ready for a better one. So little by little, you can get a lighter bet.

[Mahanton]

And also I think he don't need to seek for another casino since the one he need is to take a break or stop this shit forever since for what I see this didn't give him any healthy mind and the essence of fun is gone in his end.

I disagree. Avoiding your issues is the wrong way to stop any form of addiction completely. Such a method would only serve to amplify his addiction basically. That isn't how therapy works.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling usually focus more on the money aspect when compared to the fun aspect due to which they lose control easily.

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

You are right, stopping must be a gradual process. The problem is that in total it will have a bad impact on gamblers who have already made betting a useful place. Reducing the portion of gambling a little better if you want to quit the addiction. What is the OP realm is also in fact he is not with all the applicable provisions so find another lighter alternative to get ready for a better one. So little by little, you can get a lighter bet.

Dealing or stopping gradually is recommended but not would be suitable for all because this cant be a way for you to stop out addiction since you are still dealing with it and instead on lessening it then you might really

making it worst because you do spent out time even more with gambling activity which some people  would really be seeing that this kind of method would be pointless.If you do really want to quit gambling for good
then stop completely and avoid things as much as you can in terms of those gambling related things which you should really control yourself for the better and if you do really mind on
fixing up things.

[peter0425]

Op should shift to other crypto gambling sites which suit his requirements and slowly and steadily try hard to reduce his gambling addiction in various ways in order to control it. This is the correct strategy.

I would like your advice to be a good solution, because it would definitely be a pleasant solution for any addicted person. However, in my opinion, just as you can't stop drug addiction by reducing your doses, you can't stop gambling by switching to "more fun" casinos.

OP Needs a Professional help and this cannot be answered by this forum or by requesting a permanent banning in gambling site.
also putting blame against Stake.com is wrong because i see no problem from the site it is OP who expect too much as help when it is clearly this is His own mistake.

But like what Yahoo says above, this is OP's obligation to comply in helps and not blaming anyone.

The case is very complicated, and I'm afraid the truth is just in the middle.
The OP has a problem and Stake.com doesn't make it easy for him.

Lets say that Stake.com did the right thing and Banned OP's account on their site, aer you sure that he will not create another account? or at least play in other site?

addicted gamblers has tons of gambling site that has been in their account and can play any time.

Of course, in situation of lose, OP tries to get money back, and certainly wouldn't try to give it back in the event of a win.
We shouldn't decide here, but I don't think it would be bad if Stake.com gave this money back anonymously and permanently blocked this user. However, this should be settled privately between these two outside the public.

Lol Giving His money back? have you really understand the whole topic here? OP did spend all His fund to gamble and you wanted stake to return it back?

[TwitchySeal]

All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys.

Yeah, it is your fault, nobody forced you to deposit your money and gamble with it.  It was your decision.  The sooner you stop blaming others the sooner you'll be on the right path to recovery.
Stake needs to do better, but refunding gambling losses to someone with a gambling problem that's trying to stop is irresponsible.  

[wxa7115]

Sorry to hear that you have made a loss and it hapened while you decided to stop gambling. But unfortunately, they have no self exclusion period for a long time. In this case, you cant do anything against the gambling site but you can post against the accused person if tge person had any account on this forum.

It's not really the responsibility of the website to have that kind of thing, I mean what's going to change or what's the difference it's going to make if they have that, a gambling addict will always find a way to satisfy their thrills.

If a casino supposedly has a feature but then that feature does not work then the casino has some responsibility due to not upholding their side of the deal.

That being said, the main responsibility by far still falls at the feet of the gambler that is addicted to gambling, and this is because at the end each person is free to do whatever they want to do with their time and their money, and despite any protection that a casino may put in place it is obvious that someone that is addicted to gambling will always find a way to throw away their money as the number of casinos online is huge.

[BetGalaxyADM]

I have advised stake that i have a gambling problem in the past they have a 24 hour cooling period so if you self exclude you can

bring yourself back into the game. So for that reason on October 20st i asked eddie personally on telegram as he was my vip to ban me. Then on october 21st

Eddie says i am permanently banned self excluded. Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

( i have attached pictures as well as a post i made almost 2 years ago regarding same issue at askgamblers.com looks like they haven't improved at all)

Even a lot of land-based casino's allow for people to cancel a self exclusion within 24 hours... Or to return after 90 days.

There is no absolutely perfect way for Casino's to do this.

At some point, it still ultimately relies on you doing your part in avoiding gambling. For example, you could always create a new account using a VPN or a new IP address. Would that too be the Casino's fault? It wouldn't.

[btc78]

All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys.

Yeah, it is your fault, nobody forced you to deposit your money and gamble with it.  It was your decision.  The sooner you stop blaming others the sooner you'll be on the right path to recovery.
Stake needs to do better, but refunding gambling losses to someone with a gambling problem that's trying to stop is irresponsible.  

It is like blaming someone when you committed a crime, because they gave you a Gun and when you shot someone then it is their sin not yours 

That is perfectly said , if time comes that He realized this issue that it is his mistake and not Stake.com then that is a time about Him recovering from addiction.

But as long as he keeps pointing problem he commit to others that is still a sign of addiction and wont help him in anything.

[ethereumhunter]

All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys.

Yeah, it is your fault, nobody forced you to deposit your money and gamble with it.  It was your decision.  The sooner you stop blaming others the sooner you'll be on the right path to recovery.
Stake needs to do better, but refunding gambling losses to someone with a gambling problem that's trying to stop is irresponsible.  

It is like blaming someone when you committed a crime, because they gave you a Gun and when you shot someone then it is their sin not yours 

That is perfectly said , if time comes that He realized this issue that it is his mistake and not Stake.com then that is a time about Him recovering from addiction.

But as long as he keeps pointing problem he commit to others that is still a sign of addiction and wont help him in anything.

They can say anything, even if we gave him a gun but we never told him to shoot anyone

That is why gambling can be a danger for someone who does not have control. And once they become addicted to gambling, they will not have a chance to solve the problem unless they realize that they made a mistake and need to get out of the addiction. Maybe he needs to go to his psychiatrist to consult his addiction so he can cure it right away before that addiction becomes bigger than now.

[Wexnident]

Even a lot of land-based casino's allow for people to cancel a self exclusion within 24 hours... Or to return after 90 days.

There is no absolutely perfect way for Casino's to do this.

At some point, it still ultimately relies on you doing your part in avoiding gambling. For example, you could always create a new account using a VPN or a new IP address. Would that too be the Casino's fault? It wouldn't.

Land-based casinos actually make it a lot easier to feel that you've been banned though since you visiting them slaps you in the face that you're, well, banned from entering until said so. Online casinos provide way too much accessibility that excluding yourself from one may or may not actually be helpful due to other casinos existing all the same. It all ends up with you being responsible for it yourself as you said, though I guess having a centralized system for gambling might help this kind of problem out, where all users are registered in one major database, so that exclusion from one could also apply to any other existing registered casino.

[wxa7115]

Even a lot of land-based casino's allow for people to cancel a self exclusion within 24 hours... Or to return after 90 days.

There is no absolutely perfect way for Casino's to do this.

At some point, it still ultimately relies on you doing your part in avoiding gambling. For example, you could always create a new account using a VPN or a new IP address. Would that too be the Casino's fault? It wouldn't.

Land-based casinos actually make it a lot easier to feel that you've been banned though since you visiting them slaps you in the face that you're, well, banned from entering until said so. Online casinos provide way too much accessibility that excluding yourself from one may or may not actually be helpful due to other casinos existing all the same. It all ends up with you being responsible for it yourself as you said, though I guess having a centralized system for gambling might help this kind of problem out, where all users are registered in one major database, so that exclusion from one could also apply to any other existing registered casino.

At the end of the day people need to take responsibility for their actions, one of the things that I do not like about modern psychology is that they are always try to give their patient a get out of jail free card and somehow blame someone else for their problems.

As I said, if a casino offers a feature and then fails to make good on their promise then that is simply bad customer service, however people need to always be responsible for their mistakes and recognize that if they had not gotten addicted to gambling then they will be addicted to something else, so they need to improve themselves to the point they can beat their gambling addiction.

[shasan]

As I said, if a casino offers a feature and then fails to make good on their promise then that is simply bad customer service, however people need to always be responsible for their mistakes and recognize that if they had not gotten addicted to gambling then they will be addicted to something else, so they need to improve themselves to the point they can beat their gambling addiction.

You are right that we are eager to blame someone else instead of searching our fault. But regarding gambling we always cant think that. For example if I placea bet and loss that is  my fault. But if I have enough fund but cant withdraw or cant place bet then that is their fault. If any gambling site of cashback policy then they have to kept their promise. Regarding this case it was clearly said that the user has been banned then how the user can deposit and place bet. Don't you think it is fault of the site or the person who has made sure that the account has been banned?

[AussieGMBL]

As I said, if a casino offers a feature and then fails to make good on their promise then that is simply bad customer service, however people need to always be responsible for their mistakes and recognize that if they had not gotten addicted to gambling then they will be addicted to something else, so they need to improve themselves to the point they can beat their gambling addiction.

You are right that we are eager to blame someone else instead of searching our fault. But regarding gambling we always cant think that. For example if I placea bet and loss that is  my fault. But if I have enough fund but cant withdraw or cant place bet then that is their fault. If any gambling site of cashback policy then they have to kept their promise. Regarding this case it was clearly said that the user has been banned then how the user can deposit and place bet. Don't you think it is fault of the site or the person who has made sure that the account has been banned?

I don't know but for me it sounds ridiculous. This is a person's mistake to play when they know they are game addicted. I think it is simple as ABC. Even if one online casino bans you, you will find dozens of others where you will play:) with brick-and-mortar casinos everything looks easier as you will have to make a long trip to another location when you have banned yourself from all the closest gambling houses. With online casinos, you always have a choice:) if we are taling about addiction, you will never stope until you get the shot. Otherwise, you will not be able to think about anything else except gambling. It works the same for drug or alcohol addiction. If you ban yourself in one casino, it is never enough. A friend of mine did that in one online casino, but the next day he was playing in a brick-and-mortar one. If you think it is enough, you should do it on your own. Hidding a shot is not the way...

[Taskford]

As I said, if a casino offers a feature and then fails to make good on their promise then that is simply bad customer service, however people need to always be responsible for their mistakes and recognize that if they had not gotten addicted to gambling then they will be addicted to something else, so they need to improve themselves to the point they can beat their gambling addiction.

You are right that we are eager to blame someone else instead of searching our fault. But regarding gambling we always cant think that. For example if I placea bet and loss that is  my fault. But if I have enough fund but cant withdraw or cant place bet then that is their fault. If any gambling site of cashback policy then they have to kept their promise. Regarding this case it was clearly said that the user has been banned then how the user can deposit and place bet. Don't you think it is fault of the site or the person who has made sure that the account has been banned?

I don't know but for me it sounds ridiculous. This is a person's mistake to play when they know they are game addicted. I think it is simple as ABC. Even if one online casino bans you, you will find dozens of others where you will play:) with brick-and-mortar casinos everything looks easier as you will have to make a long trip to another location when you have banned yourself from all the closest gambling houses. With online casinos, you always have a choice:) if we are taling about addiction, you will never stope until you get the shot. Otherwise, you will not be able to think about anything else except gambling. It works the same for drug or alcohol addiction. If you ban yourself in one casino, it is never enough. A friend of mine did that in one online casino, but the next day he was playing in a brick-and-mortar one. If you think it is enough, you should do it on your own. Hidding a shot is not the way...

Because for sure the addicted gambler will crave to play since for sure he will think about playing day by day especially when they get bored. Anyways family support and health experts can help him towards this problem since if he can get all the support he need for sure the problem towards this kind of addiction will be eliminated.

For sure we can see so many complain like this since many addicted gamblers insist that they lose because of their own greed and they blame the casino like this.

[AussieGMBL]

As I said, if a casino offers a feature and then fails to make good on their promise then that is simply bad customer service, however people need to always be responsible for their mistakes and recognize that if they had not gotten addicted to gambling then they will be addicted to something else, so they need to improve themselves to the point they can beat their gambling addiction.

You are right that we are eager to blame someone else instead of searching our fault. But regarding gambling we always cant think that. For example if I placea bet and loss that is  my fault. But if I have enough fund but cant withdraw or cant place bet then that is their fault. If any gambling site of cashback policy then they have to kept their promise. Regarding this case it was clearly said that the user has been banned then how the user can deposit and place bet. Don't you think it is fault of the site or the person who has made sure that the account has been banned?

That's the case, the topic starter has placed some bets and lost his/her money. And yes, this is also the fault of the gambling site, their mistake of promising something they can't afford to do (or they can't do for whatever reasons). All employees (whatever position they hold) are company's representatives. If I buy something in an online store, for instance, and they say the goods or services will be delivered in time, and if they are not delivered in time, I have the right to be remunerated for this mistake of them. I think Stake should try to fix it with the guy not because they allowed him/her to play, but because this is a good lesson for them to train their staff not to give promises they can't keep at all!
However, on the casino's place, I would not give this remuneration directly in cash, I would pay it as the first payment in a clinic where the guy is going to have gambling related treatment. This would be fair, I think.

[wxa7115]

I don't know but for me it sounds ridiculous. This is a person's mistake to play when they know they are game addicted. I think it is simple as ABC. Even if one online casino bans you, you will find dozens of others where you will play:) with brick-and-mortar casinos everything looks easier as you will have to make a long trip to another location when you have banned yourself from all the closest gambling houses. With online casinos, you always have a choice:) if we are taling about addiction, you will never stope until you get the shot. Otherwise, you will not be able to think about anything else except gambling. It works the same for drug or alcohol addiction. If you ban yourself in one casino, it is never enough. A friend of mine did that in one online casino, but the next day he was playing in a brick-and-mortar one. If you think it is enough, you should do it on your own. Hidding a shot is not the way...

Also I think that people are too harsh to casinos, I mean they give the addicted person all kind of free passes while a casino cannot make a single mistake, and if they do then they are not to be trusted, casinos are made of people too and as such they make mistakes, forget things or simply do not know how to do their job properly yet and something like this happens.

However if a person cannot resit the temptation to gamble over such a small mistake then they are nowhere near recovering, because as you said even if stake had banned him there are hundreds of casinos online where the one that started this tread could have gambled his money away.

[stomachgrowls]

I don't know but for me it sounds ridiculous. This is a person's mistake to play when they know they are game addicted. I think it is simple as ABC. Even if one online casino bans you, you will find dozens of others where you will play:) with brick-and-mortar casinos everything looks easier as you will have to make a long trip to another location when you have banned yourself from all the closest gambling houses. With online casinos, you always have a choice:) if we are taling about addiction, you will never stope until you get the shot. Otherwise, you will not be able to think about anything else except gambling. It works the same for drug or alcohol addiction. If you ban yourself in one casino, it is never enough. A friend of mine did that in one online casino, but the next day he was playing in a brick-and-mortar one. If you think it is enough, you should do it on your own. Hidding a shot is not the way...

Also I think that people are too harsh to casinos, I mean they give the addicted person all kind of free passes while a casino cannot make a single mistake, and if they do then they are not to be trusted, casinos are made of people too and as such they make mistakes, forget things or simply do not know how to do their job properly yet and something like this happens.

However if a person cannot resit the temptation to gamble over such a small mistake then they are nowhere near recovering, because as you said even if stake had banned him there are hundreds of casinos online where the one that started this tread could have gambled his money away.

And if happens that he had spent out his money on other gambling sites then pretty much sure that he would made out some complaints too that he had lost money and made out some issues.

It is really just on this point that Stake did really have some small mistakes on here but as a user then you  should really obliged yourself on having that kind of control.

If your gambling addiction is severe then expect you would continue to commit out such mistakes all over again.

[hakaboba]

As I said, if a casino offers a feature and then fails to make good on their promise then that is simply bad customer service, however people need to always be responsible for their mistakes and recognize that if they had not gotten addicted to gambling then they will be addicted to something else, so they need to improve themselves to the point they can beat their gambling addiction.

You are right that we are eager to blame someone else instead of searching our fault. But regarding gambling we always cant think that. For example if I placea bet and loss that is  my fault. But if I have enough fund but cant withdraw or cant place bet then that is their fault. If any gambling site of cashback policy then they have to kept their promise. Regarding this case it was clearly said that the user has been banned then how the user can deposit and place bet. Don't you think it is fault of the site or the person who has made sure that the account has been banned?

I don't know but for me it sounds ridiculous. This is a person's mistake to play when they know they are game addicted. I think it is simple as ABC. Even if one online casino bans you, you will find dozens of others where you will play:) with brick-and-mortar casinos everything looks easier as you will have to make a long trip to another location when you have banned yourself from all the closest gambling houses. With online casinos, you always have a choice:) if we are taling about addiction, you will never stope until you get the shot. Otherwise, you will not be able to think about anything else except gambling. It works the same for drug or alcohol addiction. If you ban yourself in one casino, it is never enough. A friend of mine did that in one online casino, but the next day he was playing in a brick-and-mortar one. If you think it is enough, you should do it on your own. Hidding a shot is not the way...

I think this should work kinda other way. The procedure of banning from gambling should be more official, like a request that you officially make through the website and not this request you may in a chat or somewhere else. If you can send a letter to a special department of the casino, which is responsible for this stuff, this will work I think.

[papestation]

this is not the first time and won't be the last stake has done this.

https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/stake-casino-failure-to-close-account-and-follow-responsible-gambling-regulations
(someone else)

keep in mind the person who told me that i was banned is Eddie not no random staff... Also they advertise that eddie “Edward Craven” is the owner of the website which i am sure probably that's a lie they use his face for the likeness. (he may have a role in stake but i don't think he is the actual "owner".

Note: The only time stake takes things seriously is if you cheat then they will ban your accounts. For example when i got self excluded they told me all my accounts will also be banned well that was a lie. Even though i used the same ip and wallet address...

(it seems stake will only give you barriers only if you cheat or win big not if you have a gambling problem)

Here is a guy who complained about stake holding his funds then stake accusses him of match fixing and saying they banned 50 accounts.
https://canadawideevent.com/fix.jpg

Some guy here winning big and stake rejecting documents etc....
https://canadawideevent.com/winbig.jpg

You will see many reviews online like this on stake with holding money.

Soo yeah if stake wanted to they can improve there gaming responsibility policy but of-course they thrive on people with gambling problems. 

[Ryker1]

^[snip]
Here is a guy who complained about stake holding his funds then stake accusses him of match fixing and saying they banned 50 accounts.
https://canadawideevent.com/fix.jpg

Some guy here winning big and stake rejecting documents etc....
https://canadawideevent.com/winbig.jpg

You will see many reviews online like this on stake with holding money.

Soo yeah if stake wanted to they can improve there gaming responsibility policy but of-course they thrive on people with gambling problems.  

Well, if stake casino will provide proof of their accusation would be much better.
I will not judge this because we did not hear the answer from the Stake casino. Sometimes abusers act like a victim when they get caught and perhaps the Stake admin is true. Or if you are telling the truth, you should fight your rights, provide any strong evidence, and post on this gambling community on an accusation board. I am here for how many years and since the Stake was started they have already gained the trust of the community which could be the reason why they did not get easier.