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February 08, 2022, 01:49:20 PM
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What I see here is askgamblers helping a problem gambler free roll a Casino that allows anonymous players to use VPNs.

Returning money to the player that self excluded is the worst option.  Problem gamblers justify their decision to gamble any way they can think of, and when they lose, they pass responsibility for their decisions to other people in any way they can think of.

Askgamblers basically just gave the degen motivation to try the whole thing again, as well as cash in hand and an easy way to convince himself it was the Casinos fault, not his.

I guarantee you there are multiple players that have freerolled Stake and other casinos multiple times from alt accounts by self excluding and continuing to play and then publicly pressuring them to give their money back.


My $1m idea:  The money should go to a charity chosen by the player at the time of self exclusion.  Any funds he is caught gambling with are donated.


I agree that if the money is given back, it will almost certainly lead to the fact that the same person, or others who notice such a situation, will want to use it in the future.

I think that the charity chosen by the person who loses the money in such a situation is a very good solution.

That's why this should be done in any way! Giving money back will open this can of worms, I mean other will also do the same. If you want to self-exclude you, you simply need to self-exclude you:) this sounds obvious but this should work like this.
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February 08, 2022, 04:09:11 PM
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It's a good thing that a casino staff has noticed your concern but not every gambling site could do that. Gambling addiction is hard to resist but I don't think the casino site is accountable for it. A person who has fallen for a gambling addiction will always find ways to gamble so requesting permanent banning won't always be an effective solution.

That's true. You can't rely on others when having this kind of problem. You should try to solve it on your own. Otherwise, you will blame casinos everytime you make this kind of losses. Unfortunately, not all of us can deal with.
First of all you are the one, who is responsible of your own actions.If you know how to manage yourself from gambling then there will be no problem.Gambling is just for an entertainment and leisure not a source of income.

If you think that gambling will make you rich, then you are wrong.Everyone can make mistakes because we are just human. Mistakes are good, you should make some more. But, learn how to take responsibility for the mistakes you've made.
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February 08, 2022, 04:24:30 PM
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Stake is one of 2-3 websites on this entire forum that offers gambling responsibility and self-exclusion. We will be introducing better tools very soon to help players responsibly manage their gameplay. In this specific situation I am not sure if the correct protocols were followed by the player but I will investigate further.

Under settings -> Preferences is where you can self-exclude your account automatically


https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

I suggest you get a tool to block all gambling like Gamban.

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February 08, 2022, 06:23:33 PM
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Stake is one of 2-3 websites on this entire forum that offers gambling responsibility and self-exclusion. We will be introducing better tools very soon to help players responsibly manage their gameplay. In this specific situation I am not sure if the correct protocols were followed by the player but I will investigate further.

Under settings -> Preferences is where you can self-exclude your account automatically


https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

I suggest you get a tool to block all gambling like Gamban.

The way it is now, it doesn't work at all how it should work in any website. And I have to disagree, any respected casino has this functions 10x better. Here we don't have to add 1xbit as a casino..I said respected casino.
bitcasino.io has a way better self-exclusion than stake as example, where at stake even if we have that button, it acts like it doesn't exists. I hope you will improve that at least from now on, not in the future - 1 year from now -.
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February 08, 2022, 07:15:33 PM
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Stake is one of 2-3 websites on this entire forum that offers gambling responsibility and self-exclusion. We will be introducing better tools very soon to help players responsibly manage their gameplay. In this specific situation I am not sure if the correct protocols were followed by the player but I will investigate further.

Under settings -> Preferences is where you can self-exclude your account automatically

https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

I suggest you get a tool to block all gambling like Gamban.

This is definitely a positive move by your company and much more than most crypto based casinos are willing to do, so well done on that front. It would be interesting to know what time limit it uses, do you give the user a range of options - say 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 5 years? When I wanted to self exclude at different places a while ago, some were really good and gave a very long time, however others would only let you self exclude for a period of a week max, which is not very effective at breaking the habit and it was clearly engineered that way on purpose. Unfortunately these self exclusion tools do have limits as there are always casinos out there willing to take on a new gambler, but if it just helps one person that's a great thing.

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February 08, 2022, 08:06:33 PM
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At least they have a self-exclusion policy. Ultimately, a player should be held responsible for whether or not they play on a site. No one is forcing a player to re-deposit or re-create an account. Addicted players often create a new account with false data. Gambling sites can't do anything about that initially, unless they start working with a KYC. And even then it can be misleading and fraud.

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February 08, 2022, 08:24:07 PM
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The way it is now, it doesn't work at all how it should work in any website. And I have to disagree, any respected casino has this functions 10x better. Here we don't have to add 1xbit as a casino..I said respected casino.
bitcasino.io has a way better self-exclusion than stake as example, where at stake even if we have that button, it acts like it doesn't exists. I hope you will improve that at least from now on, not in the future - 1 year from now -.

I don't get it. You were complaining about them having no self-exclusion option, but they do. Once it was shown and explained to you, you started arguing that it should be 10x better and that another casino is doing it better. Also, you are aware of blocking software being available, yet you refuse to use it.
Maybe all you want to do is get your money back and that's what it's all about. You play like normal, but when you lose, you complain that it was because you're an addict and they should have not allowed you to play in the first place. Would that be the case if you won or would you take the money and keep all of that addiction rant to yourself?

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February 08, 2022, 10:00:38 PM
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The way it is now, it doesn't work at all how it should work in any website. And I have to disagree, any respected casino has this functions 10x better. Here we don't have to add 1xbit as a casino..I said respected casino.
bitcasino.io has a way better self-exclusion than stake as example, where at stake even if we have that button, it acts like it doesn't exists. I hope you will improve that at least from now on, not in the future - 1 year from now -.

I don't get it. You were complaining about them having no self-exclusion option, but they do. Once it was shown and explained to you, you started arguing that it should be 10x better and that another casino is doing it better. Also, you are aware of blocking software being available, yet you refuse to use it.
Maybe all you want to do is get your money back and that's what it's all about. You play like normal, but when you lose, you complain that it was because you're an addict and they should have not allowed you to play in the first place. Would that be the case if you won or would you take the money and keep all of that addiction rant to yourself?

You got your 25cents for the post? Are you happy now? Have you used their self exclusion? 24 hours? Sometimes I gamble for 24 hours without sleeping, after such session or during this session I realise it is too much and I want to exclude myself for the next week, does stake has that option? It takes 2-3 hours for 24 hours exclusion to take effect, it does not happen on instant.
Do you know how it is to gamble when you know that you only have a few minutes left after gambling for 14-18 hours with big ammounts, no joke, I am also plat5. Of course you don't know, you just received 25cents for your post.
Stake has no gambling responsability, stop arguing, it is a fact. Even if you say it is the fault of the player, the casino is worse to blame.
On pokerstars, on mozzart, everywhere I play even at this moment after some gambling on 19th of January when I woke up at 6 am and I gambled until next day at 2 pm, I am self exclude a month, on stake I can't do that. On stake the 24 hours wouldve expired, or even those 24 hours might not take effect because the support missclicked (which happens more than you believe, my situation).
I am not here to attack on stake or create FUD, I am here to write facts. Just facts. The moment you take defence of stake you are a spammer, you have no clue what you speak about or you don't know how it is to be raised since you are 12 running to go to casino's which are every 50 meters, this addiction it is not easy, nobody understands you, nobody arround you knows how you can stop or tries to help; everybody is: "STOP GAMBLING". And btw I am KYC lvl 3 verified on stake.
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February 09, 2022, 02:35:58 PM
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You got your 25cents for the post? Are you happy now?

Yes, thanks for asking. You seem to think that if I had no casino in my signature, I would've sympathized with your situation or ignored the thread, which isn't true.
Do only people with no signatures have the right to answer in this thread? If you don't like what others have to say set up a moderated topic and delete their responses.
Like with gambling, the choice is yours.

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Have you used their self exclusion? 24 hours? Sometimes I gamble for 24 hours without sleeping, after such session or during this session I realise it is too much and I want to exclude myself for the next week, does stake has that option? It takes 2-3 hours for 24 hours exclusion to take effect, it does not happen on instant.
Do you know how it is to gamble when you know that you only have a few minutes left after gambling for 14-18 hours with big amounts, no joke, I am also plat5. Of course you don't know, you just received 25cents for your post.

If I had to use their self exclusion I'd set it for maximum and make sure my account is locked for good. The moment you have to block yourself from gambling for a while is IMO the moment you should go to rehab. Instead, you gamble, then self exclude for 24h and in a day you still gamble again and blame the casino for delays. If you really gamble that much it really doesn't change the big picture if you lose the money today or next week, you will eventually do x number of rolls anyway, be it today or tomorrow, but you don't get this. You feel like stopping the streak at this very moment will save you.

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Stake has no gambling responsability, stop arguing, it is a fact. Even if you say it is the fault of the player, the casino is worse to blame.
On pokerstars, on mozzart, everywhere I play even at this moment after some gambling on 19th of January when I woke up at 6 am and I gambled until next day at 2 pm, I am self exclude a month, on stake I can't do that. On stake the 24 hours wouldve expired, or even those 24 hours might not take effect because the support missclicked (which happens more than you believe, my situation).

So you play on Stake, then self exclude and go to another casino, play there, self exclude, go somewhere else... When you click self exclusion, but it doesn't happen immediately, you take that for a good omen and keep playing. Maybe God wants you to play, and if not, there's always the casino to blame, right?

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I am not here to attack on stake or create FUD, I am here to write facts. Just facts. The moment you take defence of stake you are a spammer,

You are here to make a statement and if anybody has a different opinion they can go fuk themselves, fukin' spammers! Cheesy

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February 09, 2022, 02:42:31 PM
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What I see here is askgamblers helping a problem gambler free roll a Casino that allows anonymous players to use VPNs.

Returning money to the player that self excluded is the worst option.  Problem gamblers justify their decision to gamble any way they can think of, and when they lose, they pass responsibility for their decisions to other people in any way they can think of.

Askgamblers basically just gave the degen motivation to try the whole thing again, as well as cash in hand and an easy way to convince himself it was the Casinos fault, not his.

I guarantee you there are multiple players that have freerolled Stake and other casinos multiple times from alt accounts by self excluding and continuing to play and then publicly pressuring them to give their money back.


My $1m idea:  The money should go to a charity chosen by the player at the time of self exclusion.  Any funds he is caught gambling with are donated.




But do you know that all the casino's in the world do this for many years? This is why every casino have easy options to find the self-exclusion and allow users to come back after an interview if the self-exclusion is not over, as legal requirment. Stake avoids it because they are just saying: "meh", which is illegal.

And you know what?  Players still find a way to play in them.  And when players get caught playing, they don't get their money back.

You're only here because you're trying to get money back that you lost gambling.  I hope, for your own sake, they don't give it back, because if you are really trying to fix your gambling problem, them giving you money will only hurt it.

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February 10, 2022, 02:05:59 PM
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What I see here is askgamblers helping a problem gambler free roll a Casino that allows anonymous players to use VPNs.

Returning money to the player that self excluded is the worst option.  Problem gamblers justify their decision to gamble any way they can think of, and when they lose, they pass responsibility for their decisions to other people in any way they can think of.

Askgamblers basically just gave the degen motivation to try the whole thing again, as well as cash in hand and an easy way to convince himself it was the Casinos fault, not his.

I guarantee you there are multiple players that have freerolled Stake and other casinos multiple times from alt accounts by self excluding and continuing to play and then publicly pressuring them to give their money back.


My $1m idea:  The money should go to a charity chosen by the player at the time of self exclusion.  Any funds he is caught gambling with are donated.




But do you know that all the casino's in the world do this for many years? This is why every casino have easy options to find the self-exclusion and allow users to come back after an interview if the self-exclusion is not over, as legal requirment. Stake avoids it because they are just saying: "meh", which is illegal.

And you know what?  Players still find a way to play in them.  And when players get caught playing, they don't get their money back.

You're only here because you're trying to get money back that you lost gambling.  I hope, for your own sake, they don't give it back, because if you are really trying to fix your gambling problem, them giving you money will only hurt it.

That's what everyone should understand. Moreover, by paying a guy this way, they will have to pay more and more as many other gamblers will do this way. Simply have enough strength to leave it or ask for help from those who can treat you.
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February 10, 2022, 05:15:41 PM
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Stake is one of 2-3 websites on this entire forum that offers gambling responsibility and self-exclusion. We will be introducing better tools very soon to help players responsibly manage their gameplay. In this specific situation I am not sure if the correct protocols were followed by the player but I will investigate further.

Under settings -> Preferences is where you can self-exclude your account automatically

https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

I suggest you get a tool to block all gambling like Gamban.

This is definitely a positive move by your company and much more than most crypto based casinos are willing to do, so well done on that front. It would be interesting to know what time limit it uses, do you give the user a range of options - say 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 5 years? When I wanted to self exclude at different places a while ago, some were really good and gave a very long time, however others would only let you self exclude for a period of a week max, which is not very effective at breaking the habit and it was clearly engineered that way on purpose. Unfortunately these self exclusion tools do have limits as there are always casinos out there willing to take on a new gambler, but if it just helps one person that's a great thing.
It would be nice if people could self-exclude for a very long period of time, after all in order to really overcome addictive behaviors people need something close to a year in order to do so, so being able to self-exclude for that long should be an option.

However we have to admit that in these times it is really difficult for people to overcome their addictions as now they can satisfy them with extreme ease, so only those that are completely determined to do so will be able to achieve it, while those that are still not 100% committed will fail into it again, as even if they self-exclude from one casino there other thousands of casinos in which they can play.
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Yes, they need to give money back to gambler, over and over and over and over again until they solve the situation. Where is the problem?
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Yes, they need to give money back to gambler, over and over and over and over again until they solve the situation. Where is the problem?

The problem is that would only make problem gamblers want to gamble even more than if there were no self exclusion program at all. You aren't entitled to a refund. You gambled and you lost. The sooner you accept that the closer you'll be to recovery.

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February 11, 2022, 06:13:48 PM
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Yes, they need to give money back to gambler, over and over and over and over again until they solve the situation. Where is the problem?

The problem is that would only make problem gamblers want to gamble even more than if there were no self exclusion program at all. You aren't entitled to a refund. You gambled and you lost. The sooner you accept that the closer you'll be to recovery.

No, you are entitled, there are laws about it, there is gambling help policies, you are 100% entitled if the casino can't help with your addiction! Even in Curacao where their licence is, they can get closed just because of it. The electoral system in USA ain't fair, and should not exists, but it does, that's the law, the rule of the law. If you think it's unfair change it by starting a move, don't just come to say meh, this doesn't work for, i don't think it's ok.
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 #156

Yes, they need to give money back to gambler, over and over and over and over again until they solve the situation. Where is the problem?

The problem is that would only make problem gamblers want to gamble even more than if there were no self exclusion program at all. You aren't entitled to a refund. You gambled and you lost. The sooner you accept that the closer you'll be to recovery.

No, you are entitled, there are laws about it, there is gambling help policies, you are 100% entitled if the casino can't help with your addiction! Even in Curacao where their licence is, they can get closed just because of it. The electoral system in USA ain't fair, and should not exists, but it does, that's the law, the rule of the law. If you think it's unfair change it by starting a move, don't just come to say meh, this doesn't work for, i don't think it's ok.

Show me a law.

If a self excluded player, or anyone that's prohibited from gambling for any reason (banned, underage, employee) is caught gambling, not only are they not entitled to their losses back, any money they have in play is seized by the Casino.  This happens most often when they hit a win that's big enough to trigger a hand pay for tax documents.  The Casino takes the payout along with any balance they had on the machine (or chips on table), which they are then ordered to forfeit over to the regulator.

This is pretty standard practice in every jurisdiction I'm aware of, UK, Vegas, Atlantic City, Monaco...

Here's an example from Atlantic City:

https://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/docs/Rulings/2022/jan1_15/Summary.pdf




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What will happen if I try to gamble in a casino while I am on the self exclusion list?
After you are placed on the list, a casino or Internet gaming site will refuse to accept your wagers. If you are caught gambling at a casino or on an Internet gaming site, you will be subject to forfeiture of any winnings, including any chips, tokens, or electronic gaming device credits in your possession, and you will be escorted from the gaming floor or removed from the Internet gaming site.
https://www.nj.gov/lps/ge/selfexclusion_bet.html


Under no circumstances would a self excluded player get their losses back after gambling while on the exclusion list.  That's an absolutely bonkers idea.  If they did that, you could just exclude yourself, put on a disguise and go freeroll the casino.  You win, you leave quietly, you lose, full refund.  If an excluded player really wants to play, they'll find a way.  The best way to motivate them not to is the knowledge that if they get caught, they lose whatever money they are gambling with.  You're suggesting the exact opposite.  To make it so they have literally nothing to lose by trying to gamble. There is no good argument for refunding your money.

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February 11, 2022, 10:21:31 PM
 #157

Yes, they need to give money back to gambler, over and over and over and over again until they solve the situation. Where is the problem?

The problem is that would only make problem gamblers want to gamble even more than if there were no self exclusion program at all. You aren't entitled to a refund. You gambled and you lost. The sooner you accept that the closer you'll be to recovery.

No, you are entitled, there are laws about it, there is gambling help policies, you are 100% entitled if the casino can't help with your addiction! Even in Curacao where their licence is, they can get closed just because of it. The electoral system in USA ain't fair, and should not exists, but it does, that's the law, the rule of the law. If you think it's unfair change it by starting a move, don't just come to say meh, this doesn't work for, i don't think it's ok.

Show me a law.

If a self excluded player, or anyone that's prohibited from gambling for any reason (banned, underage, employee) is caught gambling, not only are they not entitled to their losses back, any money they have in play is seized by the Casino.  This happens most often when they hit a win that's big enough to trigger a hand pay for tax documents.  The Casino takes the payout along with any balance they had on the machine (or chips on table), which they are then ordered to forfeit over to the regulator.

This is pretty standard practice in every jurisdiction I'm aware of, UK, Vegas, Atlantic City, Monaco...

Here's an example from Atlantic City:

https://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/docs/Rulings/2022/jan1_15/Summary.pdf




Quote
What will happen if I try to gamble in a casino while I am on the self exclusion list?
After you are placed on the list, a casino or Internet gaming site will refuse to accept your wagers. If you are caught gambling at a casino or on an Internet gaming site, you will be subject to forfeiture of any winnings, including any chips, tokens, or electronic gaming device credits in your possession, and you will be escorted from the gaming floor or removed from the Internet gaming site.
https://www.nj.gov/lps/ge/selfexclusion_bet.html


Under no circumstances would a self excluded player get their losses back after gambling while on the exclusion list.  That's an absolutely bonkers idea.  If they did that, you could just exclude yourself, put on a disguise and go freeroll the casino.  You win, you leave quietly, you lose, full refund.  If an excluded player really wants to play, they'll find a way.  The best way to motivate them not to is the knowledge that if they get caught, they lose whatever money they are gambling with.  You're suggesting the exact opposite.  To make it so they have literally nothing to lose by trying to gamble. There is no good argument for refunding your money.


I actually think that you don't understand the problem. STAKE DOES NOT HAVE A WORKING SELF-EXCLUDE SYSTEM. Myself as a player with kyc done, no more than 1 account on the site because i don't ever want my funds to be in danger because of multiple accounts, I can not self exclude. It is like a gamble to self exclude, after you request it it may take up to 12 hours for it to take effect. STAKE DOES NOT HAVE SELF-EXCLUDE. PERIODE. Here the problem arrives.

And it works different for every type of player, if you are a constant gambler vs an usual one (who gambles from time to time), it will act differently. Do not give USA laws, as I am not even sure if stakes allows USA players to gamble on their site, as they don't accept russians, british, australians (but the owner who is australian gambles with VPN during live streams every saturday, he admits it every stream, but vpn is prohibited to use on the site.)

Stake at this moment it acts like a scam until they fix this issue.
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February 11, 2022, 10:27:01 PM
 #158

Yes, they need to give money back to gambler, over and over and over and over again until they solve the situation. Where is the problem?

The problem is that would only make problem gamblers want to gamble even more than if there were no self exclusion program at all. You aren't entitled to a refund. You gambled and you lost. The sooner you accept that the closer you'll be to recovery.
People should really take this line seriously because there's no such thing about refund or compensation or something like that, once you do make out deposit and lost it all in the site
then you totally lost them and theres no turning back.Self exclusion issues or arguments like this is none sense since its just normal for gambling sites
not to grant out those request.They are running a business and not a charity into those gambling losers and thats a fact.
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The way it is now, it doesn't work at all how it should work in any website. And I have to disagree, any respected casino has this functions 10x better. Here we don't have to add 1xbit as a casino..I said respected casino.
bitcasino.io has a way better self-exclusion than stake as example, where at stake even if we have that button, it acts like it doesn't exists. I hope you will improve that at least from now on, not in the future - 1 year from now -.

I don't get it. You were complaining about them having no self-exclusion option, but they do. Once it was shown and explained to you, you started arguing that it should be 10x better and that another casino is doing it better. Also, you are aware of blocking software being available, yet you refuse to use it.
Maybe all you want to do is get your money back and that's what it's all about. You play like normal, but when you lose, you complain that it was because you're an addict and they should have not allowed you to play in the first place. Would that be the case if you won or would you take the money and keep all of that addiction rant to yourself?

You got your 25cents for the post? Are you happy now? Have you used their self exclusion? 24 hours? Sometimes I gamble for 24 hours without sleeping, after such session or during this session I realise it is too much and I want to exclude myself for the next week, does stake has that option? It takes 2-3 hours for 24 hours exclusion to take effect, it does not happen on instant.
Do you know how it is to gamble when you know that you only have a few minutes left after gambling for 14-18 hours with big ammounts, no joke, I am also plat5. Of course you don't know, you just received 25cents for your post.
Stake has no gambling responsability, stop arguing, it is a fact. Even if you say it is the fault of the player, the casino is worse to blame.
On pokerstars, on mozzart, everywhere I play even at this moment after some gambling on 19th of January when I woke up at 6 am and I gambled until next day at 2 pm, I am self exclude a month, on stake I can't do that. On stake the 24 hours wouldve expired, or even those 24 hours might not take effect because the support missclicked (which happens more than you believe, my situation).
I am not here to attack on stake or create FUD, I am here to write facts. Just facts. The moment you take defence of stake you are a spammer, you have no clue what you speak about or you don't know how it is to be raised since you are 12 running to go to casino's which are every 50 meters, this addiction it is not easy, nobody understands you, nobody arround you knows how you can stop or tries to help; everybody is: "STOP GAMBLING". And btw I am KYC lvl 3 verified on stake.

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

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February 11, 2022, 11:29:27 PM
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The way it is now, it doesn't work at all how it should work in any website. And I have to disagree, any respected casino has this functions 10x better. Here we don't have to add 1xbit as a casino..I said respected casino.
bitcasino.io has a way better self-exclusion than stake as example, where at stake even if we have that button, it acts like it doesn't exists. I hope you will improve that at least from now on, not in the future - 1 year from now -.

I don't get it. You were complaining about them having no self-exclusion option, but they do. Once it was shown and explained to you, you started arguing that it should be 10x better and that another casino is doing it better. Also, you are aware of blocking software being available, yet you refuse to use it.
Maybe all you want to do is get your money back and that's what it's all about. You play like normal, but when you lose, you complain that it was because you're an addict and they should have not allowed you to play in the first place. Would that be the case if you won or would you take the money and keep all of that addiction rant to yourself?

You got your 25cents for the post? Are you happy now? Have you used their self exclusion? 24 hours? Sometimes I gamble for 24 hours without sleeping, after such session or during this session I realise it is too much and I want to exclude myself for the next week, does stake has that option? It takes 2-3 hours for 24 hours exclusion to take effect, it does not happen on instant.
Do you know how it is to gamble when you know that you only have a few minutes left after gambling for 14-18 hours with big ammounts, no joke, I am also plat5. Of course you don't know, you just received 25cents for your post.
Stake has no gambling responsability, stop arguing, it is a fact. Even if you say it is the fault of the player, the casino is worse to blame.
On pokerstars, on mozzart, everywhere I play even at this moment after some gambling on 19th of January when I woke up at 6 am and I gambled until next day at 2 pm, I am self exclude a month, on stake I can't do that. On stake the 24 hours wouldve expired, or even those 24 hours might not take effect because the support missclicked (which happens more than you believe, my situation).
I am not here to attack on stake or create FUD, I am here to write facts. Just facts. The moment you take defence of stake you are a spammer, you have no clue what you speak about or you don't know how it is to be raised since you are 12 running to go to casino's which are every 50 meters, this addiction it is not easy, nobody understands you, nobody arround you knows how you can stop or tries to help; everybody is: "STOP GAMBLING". And btw I am KYC lvl 3 verified on stake.

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Playing more than 20 hours a day also seems very irresponsible to me. We have all passed a day in the past (or some now) But in combination with gambling that can never go well. If you are awake for such a long time and gamble, then you will eventually make unfathomable decisions and if you lose once, the tilt mode comes on quite easily, I think too. That is dangerous and expensive.


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