stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility

[Taskford]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

[perla]

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

20 hours of gambling is indeed a clear sign of addiction. I agree with you that gamblers are responsible for having self control. While the casino can do so much in giving cautions and offering self-exclusions, but the final take will still be in the hands and decisions of players. As per the case of OP, I don’t think that he could pushed through with the complaint because he was under the self-exclusion but still deposited and gambled when he’s not supposed to.

[Fortify]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

Well, it's a lie to start with because nobody can sustain that and you'd have a very sad life if you spent 20 hours straight gambling for a day. Besides the fact of - where is all the money coming from to fund such constant losses? Nobody is winning against these casinos and it's probably one of the lowest forms of entertainment that you can find out there. It's kinda hilarious when people refer to having a "gambling career" because it shows a clear lack of understanding in the basic math that underlies the vast majority of games out there. The only people with a chance are highly skilled poker players, who are unlikely to refer to themselves as gamblers anyway.

[rahmad2nd]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with the moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

Yep gambling responsibility is very important and from the look of things 20 hours of gambling time is bad timing and you end up with severe addiction that becomes hard to get out of, it leads to bad conditions and losses afterward.

Self-exclusion may be the best way to go about this withdrawal process but the fact is not everyone is lucky to go through that road that is why gambling responsibility is very important and a good aspect or basis for gambling.

20 Hours of gambling straight even for a week will cause deterioration of mind and body but that is what casino operators want on their players, they want as long hours as they can, that is why many casinos do not have windows, clocks and they supply their players with energy drinks and perks so they can keep gambling, the more hours they gamble the more profit they are going to make.

Looks crazy when waste 20 hours in daily day for gambling but I think have been an expert on casino gambling, usually waste few minutes only because I spent with sport betting and open back later when all match have ended, but with casino I think many gambler waste almost 24 hours how they looks forget about their activities exactly when lucky and success win on several casino gambling. They can't stopping and keep running how to try with new casino game trough still have fund on pocket.

[saxydev]

It's amazing how last 10 replies are off topic and just everyone is replying to the previous post for 25 cents/post.

[Cling18]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having control. Maybe their family should step up on this scenario since this person has mental health issues.

20 hours is too much and I guess it's already time for a person who's been spending most of his days in gambling to seek professional help. We can't question them since gambling addiction isn't easy to get rid of and we're not in his shoes but if he wouldn't do something about it, he might regret it in the end. The gambling site itself shouldn't be the one to be blamed but a gambler's decisions.

[qwertyup23]

Stake is one of 2-3 websites on this entire forum that offers gambling responsibility and self-exclusion. We will be introducing better tools very soon to help players responsibly manage their gameplay. In this specific situation I am not sure if the correct protocols were followed by the player but I will investigate further.

Under settings -> Preferences is where you can self-exclude your account automatically.

I suggest you get a tool to block all gambling like Gamban.

Bold move made by the representative of stake.com himself. The fact that the representative can easily be contacted speaks to how much integrity and honesty they want to represent themselves in the gambling atmosphere. I mean, all gambling websites are profit-driven (like all businesses) but providing extra tools to at least address gambling addiction by a gambling company itself is quite commendable.

I do suggest that you plan on excluding yourself from the gambling sphere, prepare alternative methods that will somehow help you forget about the feeling of such addiction.

[acroman08]

It's amazing how last 10 replies are off topic and just everyone is replying to the previous post for 25 cents/post.

it is a continuous discussion so it is inevitable that some posts will become off-topic especially if it became a megaspam thread. you can always report those posts if you think they are off topic or you can always click "ignore" if you find someone's posts are not worth reading or perhaps just ignore the whole board if you think the posts on that board are not worth reading(you can find the feature on your profile, look for "Ignore Boards Preferences").

[Lanatsa]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

Have indeed some mental issues on which they should really able to control out theirselves when it comes into their emotions or perceptions the way that they do deal up with gambling.

Self exclusion feature is just really a bonus for a platform to have but in general sense which it isn't really actually needed since you could simply stop gambling or playing if you do wanted

to do so without needing these kind of exclusions and  this one is primary example on having some limitations but still  turn out on playing.

[saxydev]

It's amazing how last 10 replies are off topic and just everyone is replying to the previous post for 25 cents/post.

it is a continuous discussion so it is inevitable that some posts will become off-topic especially if it became a megaspam thread. you can always report those posts if you think they are off topic or you can always click "ignore" if you find someone's posts are not worth reading or perhaps just ignore the whole board if you think the posts on that board are not worth reading(you can find the feature on your profile, look for "Ignore Boards Preferences").

Your post is off topic! 25 cents?

Bold move made by the representative of stake.com himself. The fact that the representative can easily be contacted speaks to how much integrity and honesty they want to represent themselves in the gambling atmosphere. I mean, all gambling websites are profit-driven (like all businesses) but providing extra tools to at least address gambling addiction by a gambling company itself is quite commendable.

I do suggest that you plan on excluding yourself from the gambling sphere, prepare alternative methods that will somehow help you forget about the feeling of such addiction.

Not off topic but useless reply.

Can anyone continue a conversation this forum? I am watching now 20-30 topics, everyone replies just because they have to (sigs 25cents)

[wxa7115]

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

And I agree with you, it is worrying to do any one single activity for so many consecutive hours, even just laying on your bed will be incredibly taxing after so many hours, so it is obvious that something like that is not healthy at all and that is a sign that there is something wrong.

This is why casinos are in a difficult position, on one hand like any business it is obvious they would like to obtain the biggest profits possible for them, but at the same time they do no want to exploit their players and they become addicted as this is bad for both parties that are involved.

[fiulpro]

Every site does have their own set of rules. You cannot call them a scam if their rules are a bit different, as I see you did make your point and at the end of the day they did respond to you.

I think it might be beneficial for them to have better rules and regulations for the future so that they would be able to help out more people and the banning period I think is so that you can take all the money out that's there might be reviewed and the funds automatically transferred to the specific address as given by the person itself.

Addiction is honestly not something that people want to be in the middle of therefore I do think that it's better you contact a professional rather than try and gamble again on other sites.

[milewilda]

Every site does have their own set of rules. You cannot call them a scam if their rules are a bit different, as I see you did make your point and at the end of the day they did respond to you.

This is just that people couldnt really just accept the consequences on the time that they had been busted up or been caught on which they would be calling a platform/service
to be a scam once their funds been locked without even tending to realize or look back on what they have done.There are really that kind of people who dont accept their mistakes
but rather trying to fight off on a situation which its clear that its his own fault on doing so and thats why its happening into him.So acceptance would be the key.

[saxydev]

Do all of you in this forum just post for signatures? What is this? Like all of you are talking only with yourselves and not touching any topic at all....

[chaser15]

Do all of you in this forum just post for signatures? What is this? Like all of you are talking only with yourselves and not touching any topic at all....

Bitter spotted. You even pointed it out in your previous post.

The fact that OP is now out of coverage on this topic, will now create a branch of side topic to discuss. Maybe there are off-topic but you just have to don't give a shit about it. If you are sick of reading posts here, it's free to totally ignore this thread and mind your own business.

Aside from that, if there's a time that a related issue happened in the future, this thread can be served as a reference so bumping this thread, as long as not totally polluted and spammy, should be fine.

[Oilacris]

Do all of you in this forum just post for signatures? What is this? Like all of you are talking only with yourselves and not touching any topic at all....

Bitter spotted. You even pointed it out in your previous post.

The fact that OP is now out of coverage on this topic, will now create a branch of side topic to discuss. Maybe there are off-topic but you just have to don't give a shit about it. If you are sick of reading posts here, it's free to totally ignore this thread and mind your own business.

Aside from that, if there's a time that a related issue happened in the future, this thread can be served as a reference so bumping this thread, as long as not totally polluted and spammy, should be fine.

If you do tend to look at on his post history then you would see that repetitive $.25 cents post all over again and again.
I doubt that he would make out those words if he's the one on making out some post and getting paid.
Cant really deny though that repetition is really that rampant specially on mega threads where responses are already been said earlier.
On topic reply, once you are excluded then its just common sense that you shouldnt make out further deposits.Its actually your own
fault on why you lost money. You dont have rights to ask out for some refund.

[shasan]

I think that depends on the person or on the situation because what if the person doesn't have a job and he is consider gambling as a job or just a past time because when you do not have a job, your life is bored and your looking for ways to entertain your self or you look for ways to earn. Some says treating gambling as a job is wrong but IMO it is not wrong as long as your gambling stats is in profit and not in a loss.

I do not want to say that the the person might be looser too. I want to be agree with you that the person may make profit and that's why the person may try to invest his/her full time on the gambling. But how that can be 20 hours or more on a day? Isn't it too much?

[Ziskinberg]

I think that depends on the person or on the situation because what if the person doesn't have a job and he is consider gambling as a job or just a past time because when you do not have a job, your life is bored and your looking for ways to entertain your self or you look for ways to earn. Some says treating gambling as a job is wrong but IMO it is not wrong as long as your gambling stats is in profit and not in a loss.

I do not want to say that the the person might be looser too. I want to be agree with you that the person may make profit and that's why the person may try to invest his/her full time on the gambling. But how that can be 20 hours or more on a day? Isn't it too much?

You don't have a life anymore if you spend 20 hours gambling per day, even if you are winning but that would not make you happy as you can't spend your money on things that would make you a better person. That's why I do sports betting so I don't need a lot of time to spend, just 1 to hours day, that's enough for me, what's important is I'm profitable.

[boyptc]

I think that depends on the person or on the situation because what if the person doesn't have a job and he is consider gambling as a job or just a past time because when you do not have a job, your life is bored and your looking for ways to entertain your self or you look for ways to earn. Some says treating gambling as a job is wrong but IMO it is not wrong as long as your gambling stats is in profit and not in a loss.

I do not want to say that the the person might be looser too. I want to be agree with you that the person may make profit and that's why the person may try to invest his/her full time on the gambling. But how that can be 20 hours or more on a day? Isn't it too much?

If I'm really committed to a thing or activity and I don't have else thing to do, I can spend 20 hours for doing that thing I love. Whether it be gambling or not. I have done that with playing games although it's entirely different from gambling but it was during my younger days, when I was still on my teenage days.

But in gambling, it's overcommitted for doing it with 20 hours, you're too stressful in committing that much time even if you're just passing your time with it and you're already rich.

[wxa7115]

You don't have a life anymore if you spend 20 hours gambling per day, even if you are winning but that would not make you happy as you can't spend your money on things that would make you a better person. That's why I do sports betting so I don't need a lot of time to spend, just 1 to hours day, that's enough for me, what's important is I'm profitable.

Everything must be done with moderation, for example I have known some traders which kept staring at their monitors for almost all day and they even had their accounts on different exchanges and platforms set to send them signals even when they were sleeping so they would not miss a single piece of the action even when they should be sleeping.

Is it surprising that they gave up the markets after just a few months or years? Of course not, even if they were profitable eventually they burned out and decided to do something else, and as such gambling for so long even if one happened to be profitable is simply not correct no matter how we look at it.