stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility

[virasisog]

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

20 hours of gambling is indeed a clear sign of addiction. I agree with you that gamblers are responsible for having self control. While the casino can do so much in giving cautions and offering self-exclusions, but the final take will still be in the hands and decisions of players. As per the case of OP, I don’t think that he could pushed through with the complaint because he was under the self-exclusion but still deposited and gambled when he’s not supposed to.

That's already to much and Stake shouldn't be accountable for gambling addiction already. It's a matter of self-discipline. A gambler must know when to continue and when to stop for his own benefit. Sometimes, we tend to blame the site of our losses and mistakes which is unfair. Maybe it's the best time for Op to know whether he's being efficient in decision-making when it comes to his gambling journey.

[Fatunad]

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

20 hours of gambling is indeed a clear sign of addiction. I agree with you that gamblers are responsible for having self control. While the casino can do so much in giving cautions and offering self-exclusions, but the final take will still be in the hands and decisions of players. As per the case of OP, I don’t think that he could pushed through with the complaint because he was under the self-exclusion but still deposited and gambled when he’s not supposed to.

That's already to much and Stake shouldn't be accountable for gambling addiction already. It's a matter of self-discipline. A gambler must know when to continue and when to stop for his own benefit. Sometimes, we tend to blame the site of our losses and mistakes which is unfair. Maybe it's the best time for Op to know whether he's being efficient in decision-making when it comes to his gambling journey.

For sure they wouldn't really be making any complaints if they do make out profits out of those further deposits despite of exclusion but if they do experience the opposite then this is the time they would really be making out those complaints which is totally unfair for Stake side.It is true that people do commonly or having that kind of behavior on blaming the site after they had lost their money which is totally bullshit if you do ask me.
If you are really that serious on having that cool down on your gambling activities then you shouldnt have considered on making out deposits.So it is really a matter of self control.

[batang_bitcoin]

That's already to much and Stake shouldn't be accountable for gambling addiction already. It's a matter of self-discipline. A gambler must know when to continue and when to stop for his own benefit. Sometimes, we tend to blame the site of our losses and mistakes which is unfair. Maybe it's the best time for Op to know whether he's being efficient in decision-making when it comes to his gambling journey.

The problem isn't with stake but on the person who is op. A lot of valuable posts on the first page explaining what has happened to him. There's no reason to blame the casino where he's playing.
There could be some of the same cases for other casinos and they're also dealing with. This is a problem that's hard to accept if the gambler is already addicted and he's kept on losing with his money despite the self exclusion that was made.

[jhonjhon]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with the moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

Yep gambling responsibility is very important and from the look of things 20 hours of gambling time is bad timing and you end up with severe addiction that becomes hard to get out of, it leads to bad conditions and losses afterward.

Self-exclusion may be the best way to go about this withdrawal process but the fact is not everyone is lucky to go through that road that is why gambling responsibility is very important and a good aspect or basis for gambling.

20 Hours of gambling straight even for a week will cause deterioration of mind and body but that is what casino operators want on their players, they want as long hours as they can, that is why many casinos do not have windows, clocks and they supply their players with energy drinks and perks so they can keep gambling, the more hours they gamble the more profit they are going to make.

This could be crazy . 20 hours of gambling means you are already influence with gambling addiction.And it is sad to see that there are many gamblers are'nt or cannot responsible themselves, their choices, or their addiction. They are not building anything or making money, they are only breaking themselves, while bringing more money to casino. And this is what casino wants.

[btc78]

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Whenever you do go past 3-5 hours or something which is out of your important hours or time of the day then its clearly that you have some gambling problem.About self exclusions then this is something a very standard for most casinos nowadays specially with known or popular ones and if theres some sort of delay about effects then its just understandable that you wouldnt do anything specially on making more deposits.
If you do then its up to your own will which the site wouldnt really be having no control over that and when you do lost then its none of their business.

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

i must admit that way back when i was still addicted to Online game? yeah i spent almost 20 hours per day just to focus in leveling and upgrading my Account and yes I am an addict.

But In gambling? no way as i will never spend more than 5 hours to gamble because i already knew how risky this gambling addiction is and how can this ruin my life , there are more people i knew about how they are losing their lives because of gambling addiction .

[ultrloa]

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Whenever you do go past 3-5 hours or something which is out of your important hours or time of the day then its clearly that you have some gambling problem.About self exclusions then this is something a very standard for most casinos nowadays specially with known or popular ones and if theres some sort of delay about effects then its just understandable that you wouldnt do anything specially on making more deposits.
If you do then its up to your own will which the site wouldnt really be having no control over that and when you do lost then its none of their business.

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

i must admit that way back when i was still addicted to Online game? yeah i spent almost 20 hours per day just to focus in leveling and upgrading my Account and yes I am an addict.

But In gambling? no way as i will never spend more than 5 hours to gamble because i already knew how risky this gambling addiction is and how can this ruin my life , there are more people i knew about how they are losing their lives because of gambling addiction .

Some people who experience to get addicted on something unusual and can affect their lives will not do it twice in their lives since we know how hard the consequences of this action to make and newbies should consider to watch their bets then listen to other experiences since being addicted especially in gambling is so costly and might we experience more worse situation especially if we can't control ourselves so before stepping on casino we must know how to gamble responsibly.

[jrrsparkles]

We still have such people who did everything but started to blame the others if they are not seeing the results in their way. I just want to ask you something, imagine if you win 10,000x multiplier on that deposit would you still consider and let the site to cancel the bet and just return your deposit alone?

[perfect999]

For sure they wouldn't really be making any complaints if they do make out profits out of those further deposits despite of exclusion but if they do experience the opposite then this is the time they would really be making out those complaints which is totally unfair for Stake side.It is true that people do commonly or having that kind of behavior on blaming the site after they had lost their money which is totally bullshit if you do ask me.
If you are really that serious on having that cool down on your gambling activities then you shouldnt have considered on making out deposits.So it is really a matter of self control.

Of course they won't complain because they are winning and letting everyone know that you will win can only lead for them to beg if they are a player like you or if the owner sees it, they can rig your account to prevent you from winning the next time.

It is crazy but I sometimes think of it, that is why when I win I just make it a secret . Let's say an excluded player could win but it is still not right because they already decided to exclude their self before to stop gambling. That only shows that they are not ready yet and better if they cancel the exclusion so that they can gamble on their main accounts again. Gambling using their main accounts is beneficial than a new account IMO.

[boyptc]

We still have such people who did everything but started to blame the others if they are not seeing the results in their way. I just want to ask you something, imagine if you win 10,000x multiplier on that deposit would you still consider and let the site to cancel the bet and just return your deposit alone?

Definitely not gonna happen.

It's already money and win on him and for sure we're all going to agree that we're not going to let the site cancel it. But when it comes to losses, there's the feeling that they are disappointed because of it.

It's hard to accept the fact that they've lost and they should just avoid it if they have that problem of acceptance.

[dunfida]

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Whenever you do go past 3-5 hours or something which is out of your important hours or time of the day then its clearly that you have some gambling problem.About self exclusions then this is something a very standard for most casinos nowadays specially with known or popular ones and if theres some sort of delay about effects then its just understandable that you wouldnt do anything specially on making more deposits.
If you do then its up to your own will which the site wouldnt really be having no control over that and when you do lost then its none of their business.

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

i must admit that way back when i was still addicted to Online game? yeah i spent almost 20 hours per day just to focus in leveling and upgrading my Account and yes I am an addict.

But In gambling? no way as i will never spend more than 5 hours to gamble because i already knew how risky this gambling addiction is and how can this ruin my life , there are more people i knew about how they are losing their lives because of gambling addiction .

Some people who experience to get addicted on something unusual and can affect their lives will not do it twice in their lives since we know how hard the consequences of this action to make and newbies should consider to watch their bets then listen to other experiences since being addicted especially in gambling is so costly and might we experience more worse situation especially if we can't control ourselves so before stepping on casino we must know how to gamble responsibly.

You wouldnt know unless you do able to experience and even if you are noob and able to read up those past experiences of others but still they would normally be ignoring those and would continue to play or simply

on what they do desire and when shit happens then they would tell to theirselves that they shouldnt have done that on the first place or they should have listened.Well, its a very common scenario for someone to

experience on.You should really be responsible with your actions because dealing with gambling is something not for everybody specially to those who are really that impulsive.

[South Park]

We still have such people who did everything but started to blame the others if they are not seeing the results in their way. I just want to ask you something, imagine if you win 10,000x multiplier on that deposit would you still consider and let the site to cancel the bet and just return your deposit alone?

It is unlikely that a person would do this, one thing we must understand is that humans are always trying to finding an excuse for their behavior, obviously it is wrong that if you self-exclude from a website you can still play at it, but at the same time we need to take responsibility by our actions, after all if a person finds out they can still gamble despite their self-exclusion then this means they tried to access their account, and even if they could not access it then they could always create another account in a different casino and gamble in that way as well.

[Fundamentals Of]

We still have such people who did everything but started to blame the others if they are not seeing the results in their way. I just want to ask you something, imagine if you win 10,000x multiplier on that deposit would you still consider and let the site to cancel the bet and just return your deposit alone?

It is unlikely that a person would do this, one thing we must understand is that humans are always trying to finding an excuse for their behavior, obviously it is wrong that if you self-exclude from a website you can still play at it, but at the same time we need to take responsibility by our actions, after all if a person finds out they can still gamble despite their self-exclusion then this means they tried to access their account, and even if they could not access it then they could always create another account in a different casino and gamble in that way as well.

Does OP's request from Stake include cancelling those bets? I think he is not asking to cancel his bets. He only asked that he be banned for a certain period of time. But I don't fault Stake for whatever mistake OP committed. In the first place why was he even depositing money when he asked to be banned and even told that he is already banned permanently. And even more questionable is that not only did he make a deposit, he also played with those deposit which caused him to lost money.

[Reatim]

That's already to much and Stake shouldn't be accountable for gambling addiction already. It's a matter of self-discipline. A gambler must know when to continue and when to stop for his own benefit. Sometimes, we tend to blame the site of our losses and mistakes which is unfair. Maybe it's the best time for Op to know whether he's being efficient in decision-making when it comes to his gambling journey.

The problem isn't with stake but on the person who is op. A lot of valuable posts on the first page explaining what has happened to him. There's no reason to blame the casino where he's playing.
There could be some of the same cases for other casinos and they're also dealing with. This is a problem that's hard to accept if the gambler is already addicted and he's kept on losing with his money despite the self exclusion that was made.

It is given because OP did not come back again here mate meaning he had already admitted that it is His mistake than the Site.

Stake has proven their capacity and trustworthiness here and outside the forum , their players always kept on playing because of their site being good to everyone.

OP is the main problem here and not Stake.com.

[wxa7115]

I never encounter such person in my gambling career since if a person goes in that situation then there's no doubt that the person is already addicted. Also maybe its good if we don't blame casino towards not having this feature if someone want to point this out since in the first place its responsibility of each gambler on how they handle their finances and playtimes so if they are playing to much without having a control. Maybe there family should step up on this scenario since this person have mental health issues.

20 hours of gambling is indeed a clear sign of addiction. I agree with you that gamblers are responsible for having self control. While the casino can do so much in giving cautions and offering self-exclusions, but the final take will still be in the hands and decisions of players. As per the case of OP, I don’t think that he could pushed through with the complaint because he was under the self-exclusion but still deposited and gambled when he’s not supposed to.

That's already to much and Stake shouldn't be accountable for gambling addiction already. It's a matter of self-discipline. A gambler must know when to continue and when to stop for his own benefit. Sometimes, we tend to blame the site of our losses and mistakes which is unfair. Maybe it's the best time for Op to know whether he's being efficient in decision-making when it comes to his gambling journey.

While we can acknowledge that it seems that in this case the measures which were put forward by stake did not worked accordingly to what they wanted, at the same time it is a mistake to blame them for what happened.

Casino self-exclusions are at best the last line of defense before those that are addicted fall once again into the habit of gambling money they cannot afford to lose, so it is a mistake to blame stake completely over this, when we know that even if the self-exclusion was working properly there are many ways for a gambler that is addicted and determined to find ways to gamble to satisfy their needs.

[tabas]

OP is the main problem here and not Stake.com.

He is.
It's already 2 months since he's inactive and I don't think he'll come back anymore to discuss about this. If he does, we don't know what's with his new statement towards this complain he had about stake.
There's really some problem towards his decision and take on it and with his experience, he finds it the fault is at stake but don't want to admit that he had also lack of.

[crzy]

OP is the main problem here and not Stake.com.

He is.
It's already 2 months since he's inactive and I don't think he'll come back anymore to discuss about this. If he does, we don't know what's with his new statement towards this complain he had about stake.
There's really some problem towards his decision and take on it and with his experience, he finds it the fault is at stake but don't want to admit that he had also lack of.

It looks like he’s trying to disconnect himself again with gambling and I do hope that he succeed by time or he might be very busy gambling again. OP has a big problem here, and this is beyond the control of STAKE. Gambler should be more responsible and never rely on any site to help you control with your addiction, this should be your top priority to remain not addict.

[ajochems]

When the people get a loss.They will made disappointed towards the website and started to report it blindly. But they have to hold and cross verify whether it's really fake website or you loss by the less knowledge in it. If you find it faulty for verification. You had a full rights to escalate here. Stake.com had some users and their payments to participants was on time, So I had not believe the O.P statement fully.

[sovie]

We still have such people who did everything but started to blame the others if they are not seeing the results in their way. I just want to ask you something, imagine if you win 10,000x multiplier on that deposit would you still consider and let the site to cancel the bet and just return your deposit alone?

This is a very good example and I am sure the OP would not have asked for a refund of the deposit itself in such a case. The situation is quite complicated, but in my opinion the deposit should not be returned as the scammers would definitely try to use it in similar way later to play and lose without consequences.

[Fundamentals Of]

We still have such people who did everything but started to blame the others if they are not seeing the results in their way. I just want to ask you something, imagine if you win 10,000x multiplier on that deposit would you still consider and let the site to cancel the bet and just return your deposit alone?

OP wouldn't have been complaining if he only won his bets. But the sad thing is that he lost them and he lost his money. That's the only reason why he is now crying foul of the failure of Stake to ban him from the site. But if we take a look at the whole situation, Stake is not the reason why this person is losing. This gambler asked to be banned but still decided to deposit money and gambled the money. What is he doing? I thought he was trying to avoid gambling?

[acroman08]

OP wouldn't have been complaining if he only won his bets. But the sad thing is that he lost them and he lost his money. That's the only reason why he is now crying foul of the failure of Stake to ban him from the site. But if we take a look at the whole situation, Stake is not the reason why this person is losing. This gambler asked to be banned but still decided to deposit money and gambled the money. What is he doing? I thought he was trying to avoid gambling?

that is the problem with someone who has an addiction, even if they are trying to stop/avoid their addiction they can easily be tempted and fall back into their old habit. like I said before stake.com is somewhat liable for what happened. if they actually banned the account when they were asked, OP would not have been able to deposit on the account he asked to be banned.