Who is really controlling the Bitcoin market.

[TheNineClub]

Of course, the market is being manipulated, that's what Adam Smith calls the invisible hand of the market In all seriousness, there are a lot of factors that manipulate the market directly or indirectly.  So I'd say that's an integral part of the whole concept. And crypto is no exception. But as for some entity controlling it, that would be impossible due to a multitude of factors that make up the market equasion.

[stadus]

Of course, the market is being manipulated, that's what Adam Smith calls the invisible hand of the market In all seriousness, there are a lot of factors that manipulate the market directly or indirectly.  So I'd say that's an integral part of the whole concept. And crypto is no exception. But as for some entity controlling it, that would be impossible due to a multitude of factors that make up the market equasion.

Crypto has been known to be controlled by the whales, whoever holds a good number of bitcoin can control the market. The hype and FUD is one of the main reasons for the high market volatility, the whales can dictate what they want to for the market, that's why sometimes even if the news says something positive, we might still see the market is struggling, that's a clear sign of manipulation, things don't correlate sometimes.

[Tumanggor]

People always say that they are are waiting for the price of Bitcoin go down before they go into the market for trading and at the same time nobody can predict the market.
Now is the market been manipulated? Or it all depends on the numbers of investors who invested.
There is something we need to understand about Bitcoin.
The more the demand of Bitcoin the more the increase take place.Can anyone predict the market?
Because people are waiting for the decrease in price and are they predicting the market or not?
I don't think have a better understandingn on how Bitcoins

because you are a newbie then questions like this are very good for you to ask

we all control the bitcoin market. bitcoin prices cannot be predicted, everyone can only use technical analysis to try to predict future bitcoin prices with accuracy below 70%

bitcoin is not much different from other investment assets where the price can be manipulated by the whales by buying in large quantities or selling in large quantities, all that happens because bitcoin is a decentralized asset, so there is no bitcoin price regulation

[Kasabus]

Of course, the market is being manipulated, that's what Adam Smith calls the invisible hand of the market In all seriousness, there are a lot of factors that manipulate the market directly or indirectly.  So I'd say that's an integral part of the whole concept. And crypto is no exception. But as for some entity controlling it, that would be impossible due to a multitude of factors that make up the market equasion.

Crypto has been known to be controlled by the whales, whoever holds a good number of bitcoin can control the market. The hype and FUD is one of the main reasons for the high market volatility, the whales can dictate what they want to for the market, that's why sometimes even if the news says something positive, we might still see the market is struggling, that's a clear sign of manipulation, things don't correlate sometimes.

Whales have always the advantage in the market because whenever they want to manipulate the market and turn it into bearish temporarily, they can really do it so they can make a good entry in the market. But considering bitcoin, it's less manipulative than altcoin market since we all know that bitcoin at the present is mostly backed with big and strong institutions. For altcoins, its always the ground for manipulation so it experienced more price sidewards than bitcoin that makes it more risky to invest compared to bitcoin.

[Slow death]

Now is the market been manipulated? Or it all depends on the numbers of investors who invested.

The market is not being manipulated

There is something we need to understand about Bitcoin.

we all understand this market, at least people who trade or put money in this market take time to research and understand

The more the demand of Bitcoin the more the increase take place.Can anyone predict the market?

technical analysts try to predict the market

[Fredomago]

Of course, the market is being manipulated, that's what Adam Smith calls the invisible hand of the market In all seriousness, there are a lot of factors that manipulate the market directly or indirectly.  So I'd say that's an integral part of the whole concept. And crypto is no exception. But as for some entity controlling it, that would be impossible due to a multitude of factors that make up the market equasion.

Crypto has been known to be controlled by the whales, whoever holds a good number of bitcoin can control the market. The hype and FUD is one of the main reasons for the high market volatility, the whales can dictate what they want to for the market, that's why sometimes even if the news says something positive, we might still see the market is struggling, that's a clear sign of manipulation, things don't correlate sometimes.

Whales have always the advantage in the market because whenever they want to manipulate the market and turn it into bearish temporarily, they can really do it so they can make a good entry in the market. But considering bitcoin, it's less manipulative than altcoin market since we all know that bitcoin at the present is mostly backed with big and strong institutions. For altcoins, its always the ground for manipulation so it experienced more price sidewards than bitcoin that makes it more risky to invest compared to bitcoin.

Considering the value of Bitcoin and those institutional investors, whales still have the influence, but they are also concern if how institutional investors will move. The chance to lose is also possible once there are no big moves from strong holders. Though once the market suffered and more fears take place, whales can easily grab all those cheap coins and start to pump it back.

We are witnessing how Bitcoin is really being appreciated, adoptions and usages are now making its way to reach more possible
investors and end users.

[Iranus]

We can say that any market can be manipulated, but I expect the Bitcoin market to be less than others, there is a so-called “market maker” which can be some big whales or even large institutions, they play on the psychology of traders and control it indirectly by factors Psychological things such as fear and greed, in the case of fear, for example, they press the price to the lowest level, which causes fear among many traders, and they sell their currencies at cheap prices as a result of fear, and here the market maker buys these quantities at cheap prices.
Therefore, we can say that the market can be predicted somewhat by observing the movements of the market maker or the big players because they are the ones who are manipulating or directing the market movement in general, in addition to, of course, some positive or negative news.

Big whales are always in the position to manipulate the price movement of the market but i think the biggest factor that controls the bitcoin market is its supply and demand. If there is a high demand, its supply will be lessen and definitely we can see its price increase. And since bitcoin is the most in demand crypto in the market, so its not surprising that it holds the highest value among all coins. Also, we have news and social media events that gets to affect the bitcoin market too, and every time negative news hit the market, bitcoin value will be temporarily affected but eventually recover from the  dip after a couple of days.

whales can manipulate the market for a certain period. They can move the market direction at any time but that move is weaker and does not stay for long. They do not have the ability to take control for a long time.
It's supply and demand what is truly controlling the market. If the demand is more than the supply, then the price will increase. This is normal. Again, if the demand is low but the supply is high, it will be just the opposite. If whales had all the power, the market would never have survived

[Ryker1]

Whales have always the advantage in the market because whenever they want to manipulate the market and turn it into bearish temporarily, they can really do it so they can make a good entry in the market. But considering bitcoin, it's less manipulative than altcoin market since we all know that bitcoin at the present is mostly backed with big and strong institutions. For altcoins, its always the ground for manipulation so it experienced more price sidewards than bitcoin that makes it more risky to invest compared to bitcoin.

Well that is right --whales are very common bitcoin price manipulators but that is easy as that since bitcoin has a high volume in the market which means it is hard to manipulate it. It could be losing your fund and perhaps has a potential you are just wasting your time. We are it seems like in the fish pond we had a different kind of fish there is small and there's big fish that you will see. Now, the big fish will surely eat those small fish when is are those smallholders not like big fish which represent as a whale. So therefore a single whale could have an effect on the entire market, it will surely create a pump and dump.

[24Kt]

We can say that any market can be manipulated, but I expect the Bitcoin market to be less than others, there is a so-called “market maker” which can be some big whales or even large institutions, they play on the psychology of traders and control it indirectly by factors Psychological things such as fear and greed, in the case of fear, for example, they press the price to the lowest level, which causes fear among many traders, and they sell their currencies at cheap prices as a result of fear, and here the market maker buys these quantities at cheap prices.
Therefore, we can say that the market can be predicted somewhat by observing the movements of the market maker or the big players because they are the ones who are manipulating or directing the market movement in general, in addition to, of course, some positive or negative news.

Big whales are always in the position to manipulate the price movement of the market but i think the biggest factor that controls the bitcoin market is its supply and demand. If there is a high demand, its supply will be lessen and definitely we can see its price increase. And since bitcoin is the most in demand crypto in the market, so its not surprising that it holds the highest value among all coins. Also, we have news and social media events that gets to affect the bitcoin market too, and every time negative news hit the market, bitcoin value will be temporarily affected but eventually recover from the  dip after a couple of days.

whales can manipulate the market for a certain period. They can move the market direction at any time but that move is weaker and does not stay for long. They do not have the ability to take control for a long time.
It's supply and demand what is truly controlling the market. If the demand is more than the supply, then the price will increase. This is normal. Again, if the demand is low but the supply is high, it will be just the opposite. If whales had all the power, the market would never have survived

This is true, even if there are so many whales in this market, they can't sustain the manipulation in this btc market because it is huge. Aside from that, not all whales are simultaneously doing the manipulation, so usually their impact is minimal and short. Would be hard for them to unite at one point because high likely they don't know each other. So yeah, there's no one who can really control the btc market. As you said, it is more on the supply and demand concept. It is the combination of all stakeholders and factors revolving in each situation.

[darewaller]

People always say that they are are waiting for the price of Bitcoin go down before they go into the market for trading and at the same time nobody can predict the market.
Now is the market been manipulated? Or it all depends on the numbers of investors who invested.
There is something we need to understand about Bitcoin.
The more the demand of Bitcoin the more the increase take place.Can anyone predict the market?

That’s why you’re not to believe anything you see. The market cannot really be predicted by anyone, rather what they do most of the time is just speculation. But of course there have been a few times that these predictions were right, though it is not something that happens all the time you would hardly see it happen.

When you see people saying that the price of bitcoin would go up, that’s because they simply believe that there will be much demand in the market to shoot the price up to the level where it should be. And of course it does happen, the demand would increase and there will as well be increase in the price.

[DeathAngel]

Nobody controls the BTC market. Sure there are times when a whale or group of whales can move the market by dumping a load of coins or shorting in unison. A country can even ban bitcoin which, as we saw earlier in the year with China can be bad for the price.
Ultimately though nobody controls bitcoin, the market will always settle & a fair market price is found. We are seeing that at the moment, no FUD, no manipulation. The fair price of 1BTC seems to be around $50,000.

[Vaculin]

Nobody controls the BTC market. Sure there are times when a whale or group of whales can move the market by dumping a load of coins or shorting in unison. A country can even ban bitcoin which, as we saw earlier in the year with China can be bad for the price.
Ultimately though nobody controls bitcoin, the market will always settle & a fair market price is found. We are seeing that at the moment, no FUD, no manipulation. The fair price of 1BTC seems to be around $50,000.

Bitcoin is already at a surge today with its price at $51,117 and hopefully it will skyrocket soon so we can witness its new ATH before this year ends.

Basically, i do believe that bitcoin price is more on its supply and demand. When majority of the holders are thinking to sell their bitcoin, it will create a dump price for bitcoin after that but it will also recover easily. Although there are big whales that are manipulating the market ever since, but i can say that its effect on the market is only temporary. The rest are just part of the cycle that bitcoin and altcoins are experiencing bullish or bearish trend, every time after a correction happens.

[Kelvinid]

It is always been a question of who is controlling the market or are we manipulated or not in which it was no right/wrong answer as we believe that the market itself making prices fluctuates as its own. In fact, we all want to see the market in bullish but the bear season still comes.
How the manipulation comes when we know that Bitcoin is decentralized?

Everything looks different compared to 10 years ago. FUDs, manipulations, whales participation...got to see that it wasn't fully decentralized as all of these things I've mentioned are really affecting the entire market, not only for Bitcoin.

[sheenshane]

It is always been a question of who is controlling the market or are we manipulated or not in which it was no right/wrong answer as we believe that the market itself making prices fluctuates as its own. In fact, we all want to see the market in bullish but the bear season still comes.


Everything looks different compared to 10 years ago. FUDs, manipulations, whales participation...got to see that it wasn't fully decentralized as all of these things I've mentioned are really affecting the entire market, not only for Bitcoin.

It truly comes from the demand and supply which is the price of Bitcoin makes fluctuate.  It means nobody controls the Bitcoin market.
There's no clear answer about manipulations, though I've heard this so many times about the whales and I think the way they manipulate the market is just spreading the FUDs which is if this strategy of them will have an effect, it will surely shake the market price because of new investors are easy to trick and to believe the FUD.

How the manipulation comes when we know that Bitcoin is decentralized?

From time to time Bitcoin gained trust by most investors institutional or individual, the more it becomes expensive the more it's tougher to manipulate by them.

[lalabotax]

No people really control the market, but whales or a group of big traders have the power to dump-pump the price. Sometimes the demand can be created by spreading good or bad issues. If people are influenced by the issues, they may be interested to buy more or prefer to hold their capital, depending on what issue it is. Whales or big traders won't do this all the time, that's why I said no people fully control the crypto market.

[GeorgeJohn]

People always say that they are are waiting for the price of Bitcoin go down before they go into the market for trading and at the same time nobody can predict the market.

from my conception into cryptocurrency and most especially bitcoin, their is no time you go into bitcoin to purchase is wrong time...i found those who are waiting for the price to stabilize before going into trading really have target of making surplus profit, but some people are not like that, in cryptocurrency you have to follow your method of making profit, because what favoured another person might not favour you, it's what i grab in cryptocurrency methods of trading.

Now is the market been manipulated? Or it all depends on the numbers of investors who invested.
There is something we need to understand about Bitcoin.

the manipulation i seen there is just the demand and supply in the market, the gravity of the demand is higher than the supply, definitely the market will skyrocket, thinking that is an external manipulate in bitcoin, i think its a fallacy.

The more the demand of Bitcoin the more the increase take place.Can anyone predict the market?

prediction of bitcoin never be accurate, and depending on prediction can contribute a massive lost into your market, because their is a lot procrastination in cryptocurrency and slight negative information can contribute to the downstream of it

Because people are waiting for the decrease in price and are they predicting the market or not?

A good investor, an experience investor doesn't look into degradation of bitcoin before purchasing, before it can wait for decrements of altcoins before purchasing, because in Bitcoin their is every tendency that it will get accelerated, just waiting for time frame before it could resurrect to initial point... while in altcoins the possibilities that it will remain degraded for time is there.

[Accardo]

Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff claim that they can manipulate the Cryptocurrency market after Bizonnacci Made a meme video of one of the twin calling Vitalik to pump ethereum after a person bought Tether on dip but began to cry when the price kept falling then vitalik pumped ethereum and the person switched to ethereum then tether started rising again. It's a fun video but, you will learn from it.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5QlSgq7lg

Anybody knows the whereabout of BIZONACCI?

[Mpamaegbu]

Of course, the market is being manipulated, that's what Adam Smith calls the invisible hand of the market In all seriousness, there are a lot of factors that manipulate the market directly or indirectly.  So I'd say that's an integral part of the whole concept. And crypto is no exception. But as for some entity controlling it, that would be impossible due to a multitude of factors that make up the market equasion.

That's my position too if we agree on the accusation of the indirect manipulation of the market. Bitcoin is a decentralised and community driven crypto and what people take to be manipulation is when whales sell off. They say it as if whales should seek anyone's permission before disposing their coins. If whales sell off and micro hodlers decide to go on a panic sale, no one should see that as manipulation or control. Maybe not as direct effect of manipulation. We can take into cognizance the aftermath of their action, even if they decide to rebuy from the crash. That isn't controlling the Bitcoin market at all. I think it should be something along the line of knowing one's business and when to take advantage of it.

[Akash1243]

Bitcoin is decentralized which means no one person or company can control it.Yes, bitcoin can be manipulated by directly or indirectly for example positive or negative news can trigger panic sell or pump, whales also affect bitcoins price like any other investment options.Every investment options can be manipulated. Bitcoin is just too volatile to predict where prices would go.

[DoublerHunter]

Bitcoin is decentralized which means no one person or company can control it.Yes, bitcoin can be manipulated by directly or indirectly for example positive or negative news can trigger panic sell or pump, whales also affect bitcoins price like any other investment options.Every investment options can be manipulated. Bitcoin is just too volatile to predict where prices would go.

^ Definitely right, as the as other investments when it comes to the market price BTC is also can be manipulated when it comes to the price but if someone who will ask who controlled BTC, there is no single entity who is controlling BTC or even a company behind the BTC because BTC is decentralized and controlled on it. Some reason why whale takes such actions, making fake news that makes traders becomes FUD and FOMO in order to that new investors will be afraid and sell their holding coins that become too lowes the price.