My ignore list got a Christmas cleanup

[Welsh]

Ultimately, who you ignore is your business, and you don't need to make it public. Making it public that you've ignored x will only cause conflict. It's probably just to keep it unknown to them that you've ignored them. If you wish to review your ignore list periodically then that's also your decision. However, I do think it's a good idea. There's many examples of users that start off on the wrong foot, i.e poor posting quality, but actually become a prominent poster a little later on.

There's been many examples of this over the years. I haven't ignored anyone for obvious reasons, but also because I've never really felt the need too.

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[JollyGood]

You are only partly correct. In this case I've understand is reasons, since I've been there too. I've also had moments I thought that Jerry may be a spammer (I was not that certain, still...). Later on it has become clearer to me that he was just a guy that felt insecure about his every step, not an actual forum spammer.

So imho it's one of the few accounts who might deserve a second chance. I guess that we don't share this opinion, still, as I said, I understand his.
It may not matter much, Jerry hasn't posted since October (or at least he didn't in the subs not ignored by me).

I understand a little better now after you explained.

If the member (Jerry) is a little insecure (possibly even socially shy) then maybe he will appreciate replies from you since you already have a rapport built with him. If he has not posted since for a couple of months, maybe he will be back in the new year. All in all, it seems a good idea to go through the ignore list. When I have time I will try to go through my list too.

Ultimately, who you ignore is your business, and you don't need to make it public. Making it public that you've ignored x will only cause conflict. It's probably just to keep it unknown to them that you've ignored them. If you wish to review your ignore list periodically then that's also your decision. However, I do think it's a good idea. There's many examples of users that start off on the wrong foot, i.e poor posting quality, but actually become a prominent poster a little later on.

There's been many examples of this over the years. I haven't ignored anyone for obvious reasons, but also because I've never really felt the need too.

You are in a unique position, your position within the forum does not allow you to ignore users as you need to have eyes all over the place to see what is going on but in some cases, lists are made public and they do not necessarily cause conflict.

[Welsh]

You are in a unique position, your position within the forum does not allow you to ignore users as you need to have eyes all over the place to see what is going on but in some cases, lists are made public and they do not necessarily cause conflict.

Yeah, although technically I can there's nothing implemented to specifically stop me, and as far as I know there's no mention of it. However, yeah it would be counter productive obviously. I don't think I ignored anyone prior to being moderator though. I think I tried it, but ultimately got annoyed at it more than it benefited me.

lists are made public and they do not necessarily cause conflict.

I know they are made public by quite a lot of users. However, I've never really seen the benefit of it. Ideally, each user would be vetting the ignore list, and adding based on their experience instead of trusting a list of another users. Posting it definitely has the potential of causing conflict, even if that's not public conflict. I'm not saying it's guaranteed to cause conflict, but there's definitely a decent chance of that happening.

I guess it can streamline the process of finding spammers, and therefore ignoring them. However, that can also be counter productive since the spammers aren't getting reported anymore; instead they're being ignored. Obviously, for users that you don't agree with, ignoring them sometimes makes sense. Personally, I'd rather see what they say, since there's only a select few that I completely disagree with everything they say. Usually, users have some sort of substantial input, even if that's once in a blue moon.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Inspired from NeuroticFish I am going to wipe my ignore list. Well the following was my ignore list LOL

Code:

Ratimov
TheCryptonianGroup

I think I ignored Ratimov when you had the plagiarism case against you and in the discussion it went out of hand. No idea though why the other one was in ignore. You both have a wishful new year and prosperous life ahead.

With JollyGood I have bitter opinion but trust me I have nothing personal against you. I don't like you because you are careless and too triggered to insult others which eventually bring bad effect to the forum. After all we all love the place. Don't overdo with the feedback and default trust setting, you will be loved by many people.

Other than all these, I can not remember I have any bad experience with anyone else.

Ultimately, who you ignore is your business, and you don't need to make it public. Making it public that you've ignored x will only cause conflict. It's probably just to keep it unknown to them that you've ignored them.

You nailed it. 50% of the reputation clash will reduce if people are respectful to each others.

[JollyGood]

I concur, there are chances of causing conflict or issues if ignore lists are made public. And as you said, even though ignoring members you do not agree with could sometimes make sense it might be better to not ignore them to either see if they have changed their ways or to report them if their posts are worthy of being reported.

Going back to the OP, I think it is a good idea to review ignore lists. I will have to revise mine at some point and will even have stop ignoring some members just in order to report their low quality posts. Never know, if they are not sock-puppets, trolls and alt-accounts maybe I can even engage with some of them.

Thank you OP for giving us all the idea of a Christmas clean up of our ignore lists 

lists are made public and they do not necessarily cause conflict.

I know they are made public by quite a lot of users. However, I've never really seen the benefit of it. Ideally, each user would be vetting the ignore list, and adding based on their experience instead of trusting a list of another users. Posting it definitely has the potential of causing conflict, even if that's not public conflict. I'm not saying it's guaranteed to cause conflict, but there's definitely a decent chance of that happening.

I guess it can streamline the process of finding spammers, and therefore ignoring them. However, that can also be counter productive since the spammers aren't getting reported anymore; instead they're being ignored. Obviously, for users that you don't agree with, ignoring them sometimes makes sense. Personally, I'd rather see what they say, since there's only a select few that I completely disagree with everything they say. Usually, users have some sort of substantial input, even if that's once in a blue moon.

[NeuroticFish]

Inspired from NeuroticFish I am going to wipe my ignore list. Well the following was my ignore list LOL

Nice, although you had an oddly small list 
And Ratimov, although I know his pasts, does have useful posts and topics imho, so unignoring him should be a plus.

Thank you OP for giving us all the idea of a Christmas clean up of our ignore lists 

I'm really glad that my idea was not that bad and helped others too

Happy New Year!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Nice, although you had an oddly small list 

It's been long years I am here but I never felt any anger, hate towards anyone except once or twice. If you check my feedback leaving activity you will see the same. Even my reporting status (right now it's only 17) will give you a good idea.

This an open space, people will make mistakes, none of us are their babysitter. But when anything is too wrong and obvious case of wrongdoing only then we are may be losing our patience. We have our agreements and disagreements but we all have one identity, one common thing which is Bitcoin. I am happy to be a part of the biggest idea of the century and I will love to see many more people are joining us in the future to build an army of Bitcoin supporters.

And Ratimov, although I know his pasts, does have useful posts and topics imho, so unignoring him should be a plus.

Yes he does. Everyone have their mistakes. A second/third chance makes them better.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

And Ratimov, although I know his pasts, does have useful posts and topics imho, so unignoring him should be a plus.

Yes he does. Everyone have their mistakes. A second/third chance makes them better.

The fact that some offended person (who did not have the courage to write from his main account) accused me of plagiarism does not mean that I was given another chance. Plagiarism with all the right links? - wow, this is a sensation. It is a pity (for the accuser and all those who supported him), not one plagiarism could be found. Some people try to present the events that happened as the fact that after the accusation, I began to write only my own lyrics. But this is a lie.

9 and 6 are look alike. It depends on which side you are looking at. It's a past, let us learn to forget it and move on. Let the new year bring you happy and prosperous life brother. Happy new year. 🤝

[NeuroticFish]

Everything else is subjective reflections

This is the point you're completely right and you should never forget that. Whatever people may be telling, subjectivism is an important factor.
While it's hard fact that you were not proven as plagiarist (else your account would be gone), the people did make their own opinion on that matter (whether that's correct and reflecting reality or not, that's another matter).
So, no offense, but imho it won't help anyone to make a big deal of it, since, whether you like or not, in many cases it won't be easy to change that subjective bit. I may be wrong, but I think that this matter is best to remain buried in the past.


However, this is imho off topic and I would appreciate to not continue a/the dispute in here, since the idea of the topic was in Christmas spirit.

[JollyGood]

Some members mentioned in the past I was somewhat fast giving feedback and/or excluding, it was the festive spirit you instilled in me that made me thank you for the idea. I have not looked at my list yet but I hope I do before the bah humbug spirit takes over 

I'm really glad that my idea was not that bad and helped others too

Happy New Year!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

What difference does it make, from which side to look at it? The forum rules clearly define plagiarism as text without acknowledgment of the source. Everything else is subjective reflections and does not apply to the very essence of plagiarism on the forum.

You yourself gave your answer when you said everything else is subjective. Remember the forum rules are not official. The mods do not agree with something do not mean it's wrong. Your case was not black and white, it does not matter who brought it in front of us. It was a gray practice (mods were not clearly instructed that why you got the pass) but anyway let's not pull it from the past and continue off-topic. It's gone far from the present.

Let the new year bring you happy and prosperous life brother.

Don't you find it hypocritical that in my trust you write to me that I'm a whore, and in the comments you put a handshake emoticon and call me brother?

Don't you think you pushed it too hard. You could be nice and ask it nicely. I did not even check what I wrote on your trust page (I don't need to check too) when I was making my last post. You guys really need to stop pushing hard to check feedback page and your trust list all the time. Having a place in DT and having a lot of green feedback does not make you any better than everyone else. Bare in mind, there are many people who never cared for all these things, if we did then with the years in the community many of us could have over 100+ green feedback and a long list of DT inclusion. That's not why you are in the forum.

Let's not address you as my brother. You are just a name around the corner. I hope it makes you feel a bit better. It was obviously a hypocrisy.