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February 08, 2023, 04:34:47 PM
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Who called you dictatorial?

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February 08, 2023, 04:42:56 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2023, 05:06:43 PM by franky1
 #102

Who called you dictatorial?

you and your buddy doomad.. you both echo the same crap ..its why i call you the madhatter title.. you to echo off each other the same songs literally a single central mindset.
oh wait your songs are "totalitarian"
aww you thought you escaped it because of a synonym mistake

its more funny how you want to delete/ban forum topics/people that want bitcoin to be a open payment system for the unbanked(low income)

its more funny how you want bloat and and cause expensive fees on bitcoin
its funny how you want to plead to moderators to ban and delete users that are not kissing the core club party bus

its funny how you want to control who, how and what people say.
yet you only want freedom within your idolised central clubhouse



the real funny
in 2019
gmaxwell broke. he got alot of hounding from certain newbies recrutied into (oops i nearly let the punch line slip) to pester gmax into getting me banned from that category
and guess which group done this

it was this same group then used the thing that they instigated as a reason to then perpetually say i should stop doing x.y,z due to mod saying something
(certain groups self fullfilling agenda)

the reason i am not going to kiss the ring and toe the party bus is becasue it goes against bitcoins principles and needs to be highlighted that its not what bitcoin was created for

i am not trying to gain an opposing army(unlike some). i am simply suggesting people do some research outside the song sheet that certain group hands out

and yes i get attacked for it.. but i dont care about it. i just lose the respect to speak nicely to those types of people
i speak frank . and i have no fear in it.
you want to control me. but that says more about you then me

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February 08, 2023, 05:04:56 PM
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I meant who called you dictatorial in this discussion?

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February 08, 2023, 05:05:59 PM
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Who called you dictatorial?
I think he misunderstood my comment. ( maybe not ).

But hearing the same bullshit, for millionth times repeated and debunked arguments does not. Also, not being civil does not.
I see no debunked arguments regarding the recent NFT topic, maybe you should provide a technically sound and reasonable counter argument as evidence, e.g. like if someone says that the sun is made of water, you could disprove the notion by providing scientific evidence.

But if someone doesn't like your policies on a certain subject and you call their opinion bullshit and try to censor their voice, is by definition dictatorial behavior, which nobody likes especially regarding a supposed decentralized system.

So, yes both achow and maxwell are autocrats, as if they
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February 08, 2023, 05:30:33 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2023, 05:44:32 PM by franky1
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I meant who called you dictatorial in this discussion?
( v sarcasm v )
please sir can i have the kings permission to use references that are analogies or synonyms of dictatorial, such as dictate, dictator, totalitarian, oppressor.
( ^ sarcasm ^)

or are you going to play silly grammar games of specificity limitation for a speech/proof control aspect.  can i show you your examples of synonyms and where you compare me to being such synonyms / compared analogies... of a claimed dictatorial in this topic

and dont worry i will limit the examples to just this topic
and i wont even bother to quote your work-wifes quotes which you follow and sing alot to.. or ill be hear for months copy and pasting

so screw it i wont wit for the king permissions , ill go ahead anyway. ill pick out a couple.. i wont even wall spam you with your many examples and your buddy group song sheets saying the same things.

In case you were unaware, franky1 is banned from Development and Technical Discussion
I'm aware, it's just that Lightning discussions can happen outside this sub-forum and he will still take the chance to dictate with his opinion.

Franky does have a different way of thinking and we ought to allow him talk. But, you know, if you allowed those propagandistic oppressors in Greece explain you why the Earth is flat you'd get some shitty nonsense on repeat.

funny point to end it with
"we ought to allow him"
(sarcasm->) aww king madhat, you allow me do you, aww you are so kind
(pfft)

stop being the centralised totalitarians yourself whilst trying to pretend you dont want control of the code and then pretend its others that want control even when all they do is poit out your groups central points of control to make bitcoin messy bloat and expensive to not be a payment network just so you lot can then offramp people to other networks so you can middle men scrub them of their value by getting profits out of them

(yes self custody doesnt make businesses get profits. so those sponsored people in your centralised group will do anything to get bitcoiners into situations that profit/ benefit the sponsors of features you lot idolise or are paid to defend)

your games and reasons and efforts are not subtle

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February 08, 2023, 05:58:21 PM
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( v sarcasm v )
please sir can i have the kings permission to use references that are analogies or synonyms of dictatorial, such as dictate, dictator, totalitarian, oppressor.
( ^ sarcasm ^)
You have a very unfriendly discussion style. Do you enjoy attacking anyone who talks to you?

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February 08, 2023, 06:08:05 PM
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what you wil find. should you do research.. is that i have been in this forum long before most of you lot came trolling in with your social trolls, of defending certain entity/teams

you lot came at me and started with your crap, circle jerking the same stuf and using each other as proof of each others confirmation bias.. and over time yes i felt you dont deserve respect.

take this topic..
this topic is you lot trying to kill me out of the forum
and you expect me to kiss the ring and be all "thank you for the privilege of remaining, my lord"

screw that, i get to defend myself and be as frank as i like

if you are surprised by my frankness.. i think you have not been paying attention to the obvious
like my name

when you lot have a centralist agenda. and i point it out and then you lot name call me.. expect me to lose any polite expression towards you. especially when you lot have been playing these games for a couple years now.

this is not the first time we have discussed this. yet you keep acting like you are an innocent newbie that deserves respect.. or wait. is it that you think you are a god/king that demands an expectation of respect?
sounds like the latter

this is a discussion forum much like other social networks.
it is not a business meeting. even if your other conversations with your colleagues of your persuasion act like this is a business meeting platform.. but thats more on you for being in a business situation in regards to what you are allowed and not allowed to say(im leaning towards you being sponsored into defending certain entities, because i lack seeing any large independent thought or opinions in certain topics by you lot, its too coincidentally similar how your echos appear in each others posts)

but again i do like seeing how you wish to control my speech, it shows alot more about you than it does about me

oh and one last observation
there are millions of registered users (you should know you analyse forum users)
yet the same dozen names pop up and hug and cling on to defend the mad-hatter parents of the group

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February 08, 2023, 06:20:24 PM
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Translation:  "I won't follow the rules I'm expected to abide by, but I'll continue to propose absurd rules for Bitcoin because I expect others to do what I want."

Seems legit.

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February 08, 2023, 06:24:18 PM
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firstly
i do follow the rules.. just not the ones you lot make up

you say i do too many walls of text posts
guess what
one rule is to not split a post into multiple parts but to say it all in one post
another rule says no single word single line replies. a post should have decent amount of content

so yea. my rants as you call them are precisely in the rules

as for other things you think are rules that im breaking..
a forum post by a user that has a side job as forum staff. making an opinion post about his personal wishes due to cries he got from your social club new recruits(newbies).. is not an official forum rule. though you have zealous mod-sister that will pretend it gave them the right to control me. its still not an official rule of the forum

but hey when it was your newbie recruits that pushed him to make make that post. which your crowd then want to think is your power gain to control more.. is more of your silly game of self empowering nature of censorship..
it says more about you than me


im not part of any club that has enforced any mandatory code

but wait.. which dev team is your club defending.. oh right the central point of failure dev group that did have a mandatory enforced activation
(and no dont play the amnesia card..again) you have been shown many times the 2017 block events, bips and code and nya agreements that pushed it through with fake side promises added but never provided once the mandatory part succeeded.  and no although fake promoted (bad name calling) as a UASF it was not soft nor UA.. it was a MAHF+core code+NYA(economic node threat/assisted HARDfork) coalition attempt
you were even shown the image of the flags that had a very unnatural straight first phase near vertical blue line flag.. and then a un naturally straight diagonal red incline(rejecting opposition blocks) that got to an unnatural 100% to cause the mandated activation. you know the flag event image i speak of which is backed up by block data.. blockdata by the way that immutable so even i cant edit it.. incase your next silly reply is me showing edited data/bad data


last point of this post
i get your game doomad
you fail at a well researched rebuttal about features and flaws and bugs of certain things and certain devs. so your game is mostly to annoy me into i getting soo disrespectful with you that you then have a reason to cry about the disrespect you receive. and then hope to use the disrespect as the reason to get rid of me..

your technique is not original nor unique. its called "poking the bear"
its been around before you were born

and you are not succeeding in it either.
the funny part is your techniques have shown a few moments that your recruits are beginning to question your narrative and methods.. more than mine.
seems your more at risk of losing your recruits than the possibility of controlling my words with your games

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February 08, 2023, 06:50:35 PM
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I see no debunked arguments regarding the recent NFT topic
The recent NFT topic, in which nevertheless I do correct him, isn't about debunked arguments. The fact that his posts get deleted (probably due to multiple reports) and he keeps re-posting the same text shows how childishly he behaves.

e.g. like if someone says that the sun is made of water, you could disprove the notion by providing scientific evidence.
You could also disprove the notion that dividing 1 sat into 1000 msats doesn't make the currency less scarce, but that's up to serious debate with franky.

But if someone doesn't like your policies on a certain subject and you call their opinion bullshit and try to censor their voice
I don't ever report his posts based on opinions. Hell, I don't even remember well the time I reported him once.

i do follow the rules.. just not the ones you lot make up
That's up to the people who consider your posts as pointless, uninteresting and trolling. Also, you go off-topic frequently.

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the way i see it this is just more meaningless social drama...
you know, silly social that can be debunked by anyone who does the research into what franky1 is ACTUALLY saying.

thats right folks the main problem you can't realize is that you don't do research. me on the other hand, all i do is research... i do so much research i hardly have time to write huge walls of text on this forum , in threads where i've been asked to cease particepation , countless times... all because they fear the power of ACTUAL RESEARCH.

you will not out-research me. i will research circles around you, just like franky1 does...  how DARE you try to silence him? you cannot manipulate him like you do the market cap.

yep i have been researching since i was in the womb and that is why i know things that you turn a blind eye to. this is because you have no clue of the basic facts of reality... you are afraid to learn so you accuse me of derailing.

sorry but segwit was a hostile takeover. millisats don't exist.

heck not even the entire lighting network is real... it is a figmant of the blocksize gestappo's imagination. liquid makes even less sense but its still around because you all worship at the alter of your messiah adam beck.

ofcourse he has NO CLUE about what bitcoin actually is... just put your social drama aside and go do research. then you will discover how you have been misled , and finally see the light.

yep.

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You enjoyed every character typed while writing this, didn't you? Tongue

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February 08, 2023, 07:10:30 PM
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I see no debunked arguments regarding the recent NFT topic
The recent NFT topic, in which nevertheless I do correct him, isn't about debunked arguments. The fact that his posts get deleted (probably due to multiple reports) and he keeps re-posting the same text shows how childishly he behaves.
you have not. responding does not equal debunking. you just think fees is the only way to fix code bugs (facepalm) but does not make it true
ops i should be more precise. you were told to think fees were the fix.. sorry i keep thinking your words are your own and keep forgetting that you are just reading of a sales pitch sheet.. without you even bothering to even use your own mind to question what you are saying yourself.

i mean come on some of the stuff you say is silly. you saying that code cant do anything and only money can(its like you are stuck in the 1900's where code was not a thing)

example
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I agree that being non-standard or not isn't the way of stopping spam, but I strongly disagree with messing around with op codes, hardening consensus rules which locks out potentially useful functionalities to get rid of this particular batch of NFT mania, which will overtime find their way in otherwise.

Bitcoin is incentive based, and pro-freedom network. If transaction fee can't discourage a spammer, no thing can.

that is not  debunk.. thats me laughing at you for you not understanding that it is CODE that creates rules and code that can change broken code.
not money


e.g. like if someone says that the sun is made of water, you could disprove the notion by providing scientific evidence.
You could also disprove the notion that dividing 1 sat into 1000 msats doesn't make the currency less scarce, but that's up to serious debate with franky.

bitcoin at HARD REAL data level is measured in sats on the blockchain. the immutible blockchain
lets show you what 6.25btc looks like in binary(on the blockchain of real data and ruled amount)
100101010000001011111001000000
now that real data.. is then computed in a susers software to be human represented as 6.25000000btc

now i want blackhat to realuse that at smallest unit of account(sat) if that unit change from
625000000units
to
625000000000units
guess what it would look like in binary
1001000110000100111001110010101000000000
meaning the new coinbase of more "decimals" would have more binary numbers meaning it then impacts how many halving events occur
(because removing the right side by 1 bit is a halving of amount, meaning longer bit length=more halvings)

and also this new representation of 6.26btc
1001000110000100111001110010101000000000
makes the old reputation appear as no longer 6.25btc but devalued down to being 0.00625 due to the /100 blackhat wants

as for the "supply"
turning the existing old "8decimal" block data of binary value. from 19m coins into 19kcoins of new style
meaning it changes total supply into less then 2mill total once all halvings complete


but hey.. when i told blackhat about that.. he did not respond with a successful debunk. he just realised he made a massive misjudgement and just didnt respond to that topic
nope he did not discuss any binary or hex or decimal debate that would prove his opinion.


But if someone doesn't like your policies on a certain subject and you call their opinion bullshit and try to censor their voice
I don't ever report his posts based on opinions. Hell, I don't even remember well the time I reported him once.

yet this topic here is blackhat that wanted me banned..
hmm
going from no reporting.. to sudden wanting me banned.. seems extreme leap to make in one shot

but it is funny to see the normal "i dont remember" defence to avoid stating something of truth.. (nice try.. but not subtle enough)

angelo. you probably had more skill in the scrap metal business than you do in PR

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you have not. responding does not equal debunking. you just thint fees is the only way to fix code bugs (facepalm)
What is happening is not a code bug. It's a spam attack. Ultimately, a feature.

that is not  debunk.. thats me laughing at you for you not understanding that it is CODE that creates rules and code that can change broken code.
not money
There is no broken code.

bitcoin at HARD REAL data level is measured in sats on the blockchain. the immutible blockchain
Lol, I'm not even touching this subject for the billionth time.

but it is funny to see the normal "i dont remember" defence to avoid stating something of truth.. (nice try.. but not subtle enough)
Maybe I reported you once. I don't remember. You're not interesting.

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February 08, 2023, 07:21:35 PM
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seems for me to be such a nobody of no interest. you lot spend most days trying to control me

and you never touched the block data debates once.. as soon as i show you block data/binary data.  (segwit activation method... bockflags, .. coin value amounts stored in blockdata)and I ask you lot to do the same.. you lot shy away and play forgetful but just say you wont answer it due to [excuse]

i still await your debunks that are not just posts "franky is wrong because here is a quote of a buddy saying he is wrong, who is quoting another buddy who says he is wrong" as your only evidence

come on.. here is your prime chance to highlight your wins..
show it

the stage is open.. come on, show me the big debunks you speak of
come on the big network affecting debunks.. where my suggestions would negatively affect bitcoin more then the crap stuff you lot promote

.. or will i just get grammar nazi knitpicks of silly things that are meaningless to the context of the debate

come on. the stage is open. the mic is on. the speakers are on full. the stage spotlights are positioned right to the stage. ready for your big reveal......
dont be shy now

if you ever had a really big debunk proof im sure you were itching at the neck wanting to show it. and bookmarking it for prosperity.. so come on.. this is your moment
come on there must be one.. and no dont play the amnesia card

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and you never touched the block data debates once.. as soon as i show you block data/binary data.  (segwit activation method... bockflags, .. coin value amounts stored in blockdata)and I ask you lot to do the same.. you lot shy away and play forgetful but just say you wont answer it due to [excuse]
Pardon me for that, but I really can't stand reading bad English. I'm neither British so it's just unbearable to have long talk with you.

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nice grammar excuse

but my english is real english

you can truly say you are great at english if you can understand this

"oi ewe, put down the dog n bone n put yer big knickers on"
and this
"a'ight me ol mucker, ow's yer ma"

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firstly you want to control how i talk.. emphasis control
then you want to control what i talk about emphasis control
then you want to control where i talk emphasis control
then you want to control if i should be allowed to talk emphasis control

hmm very revealing.
it says more about you then me

i have always been clear. this is an open discussion forum.. and i am frank

as for this forum and the reason i reposted a certain post content in the last couple days..

its more so that if you look at the technical discussion topic. there is alot of hype promoting of letting NFT continue. but any real talk of REAL fixes get deleted, removed and not talked about..
just look at the lack of discussion of a real fix.. yet we know the ordinals (buzzword of a type of NFT on bitcoin) are a problem of bloat and other issues..

its not childish to be trying to talk about solutions, nor about critiquing the causes, nor childish to mention what the wider community should be reviewing and pointing their eyes towards causes and real fixes

its childish to have a man child with abilities to delete proposals, solutions and fixes to then has his firends pretend there is no fix and instead promote getting people to make bitcoin a premium expense system to make it unappealing to use as a payment system

achow is abusing his mod privilege

he is mod of too many things. he wants a central point of failure (core) to only be reviewed internally(centrally) where it is moderated by core, and there is no critique or negative words said beyond 'Nack' yep in recent months he wants to add a mod layer to github adding more self serving power, where any critical negative comments are removed. and instead any negative stuff is pretty much only allowed if its fits into a small criteria of formatting to make it difficult to critique a flaw/developer. heck he even wants to change the ACK Nack scheme..

he and a certain fews dont believe in the concept of decentralisation.. and do not believe in independent validation, review, scrutiny, critique.

where instead the very same core maintainers of every part of bitcoin discussion  moderation teams

and yet you want them to have free reign to say and do as they please because "free speech" while then censoring out anything that goes against the core way.

maybe look outslde your childish view of things and think more outside your playground

I have seen that a lot of your posts have been allowed to stay.. and of course, it could be problematic to be reposting items that have been deleted - unless they were deleted for being off-topic, so you remove them to a thread in which they are "on-topic".. and perhaps it would be acceptable for you to post a link to another thread in a topic in which you believe that your post is relevant, but it had already been deleted for possibly being off-topic... I am not sure.. I don't really want your voice to be snuffed out, even though sometimes I get confused about your points and then realize that maybe you were just talking gobbledy-gook.. but other times you seem to raise points that others had not been willing to raise or you raise it from an angle that had not been presented, and those kinds of presentations can be helpful to other members, even if some of us might not agree with some of your facts, logic and/or conclusions reached.

Isn't he the only recognizable opposition in this forum?
In terms of mental health, sure.

Hearing the opposition is always good because it helps to improve.
But hearing the same bullshit, for millionth times repeated and debunked arguments does not. Also, not being civil does not.

I don't see anything wrong with his deleted posts other than a dictatorial moderation policy in those dangerous waters ( boards ).
Dictatorial? Buddy, a forum board has rules. And those rules are better to be enforced. This forum, while far from perfect moderation, does fit in this category as well. franky1 just feels like the rules aren't proper, or that the moderators abuse their power; apparently, only to him.

It seems to me that the forum is pretty liberal in terms of allowing posts to stand, and sure sometimes if posts are deleted it might be good to give a reason, especially if the post is off topic and might be raised in some other area.. but I do see that sometimes franky is bringing up bullshit political criticisms that end up fogging up technical ideas and even perverting facts, so sometimes in those kinds of cases, it should already be clear that there might not be any appropriate place for such posts.. except maybe a thread that allows franky to fantasize about whatever world that he wishes to exist with franky logic, franky facts and/or franky conclusions.. and surely it seems that the LoyceV thread had allowed for some of that.. and I am not sure if there might be some other threads in which some of the contents of the franky posts could be allowed to stand.... but I do agree with the idea that it is against the rules to post off topic, and some deviations are allowed, so it can be a slippery slope, sometimes to figure out if something should have been "on-topic" or not.

as for debunking me.. with actual hard data of something rally hard and provable in actual code or blockdata..
i doubt it
all your chums ever do is say i been debunked by quoting another social post of a chum of yours saying i was debunked where their source is another chums saying i was debunked.. or where you think you got a win becasue of grammar mistakes

Sometimes the burden for "debunking" is on you to prove your case, and no one needs to debunk you.  If you are trying to overcome the status quo, then you have the burden of convincing folks of the strength of your facts, the validity of your logic and the soundness of your conclusions, and so if you cannot reach your burdens, then the burden does not shift to the status quo to "debunk" you.

Furthermore, if you merely just continue to present the same (or very similar) facts, logic, arguments and/or conclusions over and over, that does not necessarily make your arguments stronger and it does not necessarily shift the burden over to the status quo to "debunk" your claims.

I see no debunked arguments regarding the recent NFT topic
The recent NFT topic, in which nevertheless I do correct him, isn't about debunked arguments. The fact that his posts get deleted (probably due to multiple reports) and he keeps re-posting the same text shows how childishly he behaves.

I believe that I have not seen the relevant threads on the NFT topic, and I imagine that you are referring to ordinals in terms of some of the software implementations that were run by Casey Rodarmor or whatever the recent hub bub of NFTs on bitcoin is called.  So far, I am not against those or think that any kind of action needs to be taken or that it is an attack vector on bitcoin, but I see that there have been several prominent bitcoin members who have been against them.. such as Adam Back. .and maybe some others, so maybe I am thinking that Franky might be for ordinals.. I am not sure.. .. but overall I think that the topic has been raising quite a bit of disagreement about whether it is a problem and whether anything should be done or can be done in such a way that does not end up being problematic for bitcoin. .for example, if there were some kind of a software fix, that in itself might be considered an attack on bitcoin... or maybe result in a hardfork rather than a softfork.. whatever, maybe I am getting off topic, because we are supposed to be talking about how bad franky is, no?  

Let me get back on topic.... Franky.. you suck.. hahahahhaha not all of the time, but a decently large amount of the time.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Accordingly, it seems to me that you also seem to have misinterpreted who was claiming who to be a dictator.. you said that the mods were dictators *such as achow..., and then some folks rebutted you by saying that they were not dictators, then you said that members were calling you a dictator.. .. whatever, seems like you were twisting and/or misinterpreting the ideas on that issue that you raised in the first place... although I can see why some folks might want to call you a dictator if you are continuing to push the same ideas over and over without really adding anything to points that you might have already been made or if you are cluttering topics with your posts and claiming that they are on topic, when they are merely repetitions of the same point over and over.. which is a kind of dictatorship through cluttering.. if there were to be such a thing that could exist?

i do so much research i hardly have time to write huge walls of text on this forum , in threads where i've been asked to cease particepation , countless times... all because they fear the power of ACTUAL RESEARCH.

Oh gawd..  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  aren't you the greatest thing since sliced bread.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

you will not out-research me. i will research circles around you, just like franky1 does...  how DARE you try to silence him? you cannot manipulate him like you do the market cap.

yep i have been researching since i was in the womb and that is why i know things that you turn a blind eye to. this is because you have no clue of the basic facts of reality... you are afraid to learn so you accuse me of derailing.

sorry but segwit was a hostile takeover. millisats don't exist.

heck not even the entire lighting network is real... it is a figmant of the blocksize gestappo's imagination. liquid makes even less sense but its still around because you all worship at the alter of your messiah adam beck.**

ofcourse he has NO CLUE about what bitcoin actually is... just put your social drama aside and go do research. then you will discover how you have been misled , and finally see the light.

yep.

millisats.

For some reason, I find this last portion of your post quite humorous.. even though I am not really sure what it means.  Dummy me.

Probably I have not researched enough in order to understand the innuendos contained therein.

**By the way, based on your above spelling of "Beck," you might be getting Adam Back mixed up with Jeff Beck.   They have both been famous, but largely for different reasons... #justsaying.

you have not. responding does not equal debunking. you just thint fees is the only way to fix code bugs (facepalm)
What is happening is not a code bug. It's a spam attack. Ultimately, a feature.

that is not  debunk.. thats me laughing at you for you not understanding that it is CODE that creates rules and code that can change broken code.
not money
There is no broken code.

bitcoin at HARD REAL data level is measured in sats on the blockchain. the immutible blockchain
Lol, I'm not even touching this subject for the billionth time.

but it is funny to see the normal "i dont remember" defence to avoid stating something of truth.. (nice try.. but not subtle enough)
Maybe I reported you once. I don't remember. You're not interesting.

Ok... maybe this helps me (without having to "research too much") to appreciate where franky1 might stand/sit in regards to the recently frequently discussed NFT/ordinals on bitcoin topic..

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February 08, 2023, 10:46:24 PM
Last edit: February 08, 2023, 10:57:31 PM by franky1
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@JJG
firstly i am not for ordinals
i even provided a easy solution that does work because the core devs done a similar practice in the past which set precedent that its possible and does not involved re-orging the blockchain

and no fees are not the solution.. asking everyone to just pay more is meaningless. as pools can add a ordinal/nft in their own blocktemplate and the fee they pay goes to themselves. thus no cost, no loss. thus fees wont stop it if it costs a pool nothing to add it

secondly using fee as political power is surprising the other groups solution. strangely they used to hate bloat in blocks and wanted a fee "freemarket".. now they want bloat and want a political fee system (facepalm)

my stance has always been bitcoin development on the bitcoin network. where bitcoins exist. to allow more bitcoin payment transactions per block.. its never been about more wasted metadata script nft bloat or crap data bloat. its more payment transaction count utility on the bitcoin network. progressively, not large leaps (to counter most of the stupid insinuations other people think are the only options going forward)

seems they change their stance/opinions to fit the whims of whatever sponsor they meet

as for me providing proof
take the segwit debate. even the core devs admit it was done the way i keep saying it was. they are now proud of it too.. . thus i dont see why the madhatter clan are trying to set a different narrative..
(theirs: there was no split there was no fork there was no controversy, it was all soft and everyone wanted it)

i have shown them even the block data, the bips and the codebase. the mandatory stuff he block rejections the unnatural votes.

they have seen it many times. thus when they try to say silly stuff to try to change history..  after 3 months of chill by them.. they play dumb and forgetful.. they keep then asking me for proof even though they know the answer. they just want me to waste my time showing them the data again. then cry that im the one trying to keep talking about it

but they never show their proofs of their narratives. apart from confirmation bias social quotes from things like other forum people or twitter. so yea i tell them to stop wasting time do some research and come back when they provide proof of their claims because proof of my claims has been provided many many many times
and is easily available


heck even lead maintain Wlad admits core was branded core as a name to be the center of information, development and the reference client (central point of failure) and also on his exist he again admits about he core being central point of failure

yet the madhatter clan are trying to pretend something else.


here is the thing. when i do detail responses of technical stuff including links. most of those posts get deleted. or get told its too technical and to instead ELI-5 it.
or that i am wrong becasue im just rambling some nonsense they cannot understand..
 or left in history from years prior. where by new mentions ifthe topic is questioned again.. these new resppnses then get deleted.. which then leaves gaps in the conversation where it looks like i have not mentioned certain things. which some use as pretending that im confusing people by being vague or not complete.

i then re write a brief dumbed down version but try to include links
then i dumb it down a bit more and ask people to do their own research
then i dumb it down more and then get accused of not knowing anything becasue im not scientific enough.. (facepalm)

then i get peed off that the messages are not even given the effort to be read by a mod to even check if the content is valid or not..  to see if it meets the rules. so i do quick blasts of messages which some stick. which is where the confusing small scope snippet bits come in where some people dont get the whole context. because i had to limit the context or the context got deleted

these small brief (non walls of text) messages is where i have not spoonfed all the detail but request people to do some research so that i cant be blamed for me spoonfeeding them bad information or being a dictator
(EG if i responded in 5 messages between 5 other peoples messages and only posts 2 and 4 were kept. it looks messy)

the information exists.. even with just a google search and 30 second of time .. yet  certain people would rather spend hours making excuses to avoid simple research or get my posts deleted rather than face the truth that opposes whatever team/company/agenda they are defending

and yes. i have been called synonyms and analogies and comparisons to dictator many times by blackhatter and his work husband doomad. which is why when it comes to anyone being a dictator being mentioned in a topic where its obviously subtle leading to starting a reail accusation related to me being one in further posts
it happens so often you can spot the sliding in of a certain topic to then start a new argument about it..

. i can see the inferences that are ready to be made because its the same game of subtly directing a discussion into dictator finger pointing session. whereby the usual crowd LOVE to then point the finger at me as deflection. so i sometimes beat them to the punch..

again it looks messy. but when they sing the same songs of [subtle buzzword insertion] pre-empting the obvious next phase by calling me the [bussword]. i prefer to skip a few of their chest beats of their singing sessions and just get to the conclusion of their next game.

yes it looks messy but with all the post deletes and such there is no point wasting time playing their game in sync and step by step. i might aswell act like half my messages will be deleted anyway and just get to the conclusion

as for if my post was ontopic or not about the mass of deletes today.
it was about NFT on bitcoin (to which ordinals is the brand name or a type of NFT, which is on bitcoin). and where people were asking about solutions to it. which all my deleted responses in recent days were ontopic and offered a solution

yea achow does not read the posts to check if the rules were met.. he just deletes on sight, if a post is made by my name its deleted.. deleted precisely for that reason
"franky made it"

funny thing is achow is recently(couple months) on a massive power grab.  wanting to add extra hierarchy levels of moderation everywhere.. even on github where by he is writing the rule book and making the internal merge privilege devs the mods..

meaning a more closed door circle jerking by the Dev empire..

seems he does not like outside/independent review, scrutiny, critique. he wants a cultish clubhouse of ass kissing ACKers. of the same 3 sponsoring companies (brinks/ chain code labs/blockstream) all pushing for the same roadmap. thus no defiance

but dare i say that. oops just did


seems most of the dozen brethren of the mad hatter defence league have made an appearance in this topic in recent days.. just maybe 2-3 more have yet to chime in to defend their buddies.  but yes its the usual crowd im having to spot time and time again.. (no surprise)

I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER.
Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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February 08, 2023, 11:38:03 PM
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( v sarcasm v )
please sir can i have the kings permission to use references that are analogies or synonyms of dictatorial, such as dictate, dictator, totalitarian, oppressor.
( ^ sarcasm ^)
You have a very unfriendly discussion style. Do you enjoy attacking anyone who talks to you?

to be frank about frank he is not rude to me but in general we agree on LN being a possible threat to BTC.

On the topic of NFT and ordinals hurting btc I tend to see some of the threats they could be but as a long time miner I see them clogging blocks and helping miners.

Its funny the frank thinks ln a block de bloat and NFT/ ordinals are both bad.

In a way I kind of think of NFT/ordinals as  a sophisticated way to clog the chain to help miners and to counter balance the damage done by LN network and fees for miners.

So In my half assed opinion since frank does not like LN in theory he should like NFT's and ordinals.

I in this particular case I am asking frank do you think my idea of not/ordinal neutralizing LN action is wrong? If so why?

As anyone can see I am not against frank but am interested in what he thinks.


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