User @ratas scam for 1263e

[younger41]

Hello guys, i meet one guy on this forum, he is from Portugal, his username is "ratas" and he is member of forum July 2019
We chat 2 weeks about bookmakers and he offered me very good sites, to bet together.
After a while i got a little trust in him and we wanted to start betting together, he asked me to send a deposit and i agreed.

Scammers Profil link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2649315

Amount Scammed: 1263e

Payment Method: Skrill and Neteller

Proof of Payment: https://ibb.co/rmbCv8V         https://ibb.co/nCpPkZB

His name is Rui Francisco and live in Vila franca xira (Portugal)
His first telegram account: https://ibb.co/8c254Ry
Of course he blocked me right away, but he send message tomorrow from a new telegram account, I was shocked
https://ibb.co/5rs1TRJ
https://ibb.co/MnscDnD
https://ibb.co/Yt50v1q

With this post I invite all members who know him to advise him to send the money back, otherwise it will not end well I swear.

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[javier26]

I know this guy . I was looking to sell my Skrill and he showed interest. Asked me to send first and was giving me all kinds of weird instructions to follow, and saying that he only wanted to help me . I could smell a rat and decided to send nothing and broke contact.

He claimed to be working in the Betting industry and his English as you would also know is very funny.

You got scammed for over a 1000 Euros, sorry to know but that's a big money mate.

How do you plan to make him pay if he doesn't return which scammers usually don't ? If you indeed got scammed I hope you teach him a lesson as all scammers need to be.


https://i.ibb.co/zGGn8fq/IMG-20220109-234613.jpg

There as you can see he is trying to lure me into a deal in PMs, I had a long conversation with him on Telegram which I deleted later on. He has been making all sorts of tall claims about how he has a VIP Skrill account and he is a big turnover account user . Lol

Also telling me how he doesn't trust Indians ( I am an Indian ) and Bangladeshis who are known scammers , and that he would only exchange 100-200 USD out of my 3000 USD Skrill balance because he doesn't like to deal with Indians , which could harm the reputation of his VIP Skrill Status lol. I knew this guy is a scammer but am surprised to read his chat with you now where he's claiming to be on road and has no money for personal expenses. This forum has many such bankrupt people who have lost money on gambling and other addictions and are now on lookout of people whom they can scam and compensate their losses . Be very very careful in this place.

[JeromeTash]

Can both of you @javier26 and @younger41 please add the telegram links or handles which ratas uses?

I am trying to connect the dots to prove how ratas is linked to the telegram accounts. I will tag and flag the account if he is proven to be a scammer or suspicious

[javier26]

https://i.ibb.co/RvpF2Sc/IMG-20220110-001101.jpg

To me he provided the telegram address as @prego13 which can be confirmed in the screenshot of the PM above.

[younger41]

Can both of you @javier26 and @younger41 please add the telegram links or handles which ratas uses?

I am trying to connect the dots to prove how ratas is linked to the telegram accounts. I will tag and flag the account if he is proven to be a scammer or suspicious

he wrote to me from 2 accounts, but both deleted

first account name is Trevo

Second account i already post photo

https://ibb.co/9vJPxxk

There are photos of sending money from neteller and skrill, emails and his real name

[Slow death]

just to be clear did you send him money so he would make a bet for you and he would send you profits? Is that?

[younger41]

just to be clear did you send him money so he would make a bet for you and he would send you profits? Is that?

Yes i send him money to bet, like deposit from me, to be safe....

[Slow death]

just to be clear did you send him money so he would make a bet for you and he would send you profits? Is that?

Yes i send him money to bet, like deposit from me, to be safe....

I understand, I have already left negative feedback on the scammer account, if he is actually from Portugal (I also speak Portuguese and because of the Portuguese he writes he seems to be a Brazilian citizen but who lives in Portugal, but the way he writes appears to be a Brazilian citizen ) so you can report this to the Portuguese police and you can also report this case to neteller and skriil over the phone, in which case it would be more advantageous if you could speak Portuguese because the guys from neteller in Portuguese are very quick to act in this situation

PS: in case he's serious about paying you 200 euros each month, wouldn't that be something you could accept? who knows he wants to redeem himself? but I was thinking how would you have a guarantee that he would pay and I can't think of anything

[JeromeTash]

PS: in case he's serious about paying you 200 euros each month, wouldn't that be something you could accept? who knows he wants to redeem himself? but I was thinking how would you have a guarantee that he would pay and I can't think of anything

It looks like he's a serial scammer because the second person received similar kinds of messages, meaning he could probably be doing the same thing to many other members

I also don't understand how OP trusted a complete stranger with 1,263 Euro.

[Slow death]

PS: in case he's serious about paying you 200 euros each month, wouldn't that be something you could accept? who knows he wants to redeem himself? but I was thinking how would you have a guarantee that he would pay and I can't think of anything

It looks like he's a serial scammer because the second person received similar kinds of messages, meaning he could probably be doing the same thing to many other members

I also don't understand how OP trusted a complete stranger with 1,263 Euro.

It's sad to see a guy who kept talking in the Portuguese local section and who seemed honest to have done what he did, It is possible that he was using a lot of alts here on the forum, he writes like someone from Brazil but he said he lives in Portugal, he also had a post where he talks about real ( Brazilian currency ), maybe @TryNinja knows more about him

[younger41]

PS: in case he's serious about paying you 200 euros each month, wouldn't that be something you could accept? who knows he wants to redeem himself? but I was thinking how would you have a guarantee that he would pay and I can't think of anything

It looks like he's a serial scammer because the second person received similar kinds of messages, meaning he could probably be doing the same thing to many other members

I also don't understand how OP trusted a complete stranger with 1,263 Euro.

He seemed really honest, we talked for 2 weeks, I sent him 500 first and everything was ok, after one hour rest and he was gone hahah.

His last thread is ridiculous hahaha    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378506.msg58811888#msg58811888

is there any other information about him?

[Slow death]

PS: in case he's serious about paying you 200 euros each month, wouldn't that be something you could accept? who knows he wants to redeem himself? but I was thinking how would you have a guarantee that he would pay and I can't think of anything

It looks like he's a serial scammer because the second person received similar kinds of messages, meaning he could probably be doing the same thing to many other members

I also don't understand how OP trusted a complete stranger with 1,263 Euro.

He seemed really honest, we talked for 2 weeks, I sent him 500 first and everything was ok, after one hour rest and he was gone hahah.

is there any other information about him?

maybe this user @TryNinja  can have more information about him, I saw in the scammers historical post that he was talking to @TryNinja

By the way, don't you consider accepting his offer to pay you 200 euros a month?

if you get in contact with neteller and skrill I believe they will forward this case to the police and block his account

[younger41]

PS: in case he's serious about paying you 200 euros each month, wouldn't that be something you could accept? who knows he wants to redeem himself? but I was thinking how would you have a guarantee that he would pay and I can't think of anything

It looks like he's a serial scammer because the second person received similar kinds of messages, meaning he could probably be doing the same thing to many other members

I also don't understand how OP trusted a complete stranger with 1,263 Euro.

He seemed really honest, we talked for 2 weeks, I sent him 500 first and everything was ok, after one hour rest and he was gone hahah.

is there any other information about him?

maybe this user @TryNinja  can have more information about him, I saw in the scammers historical post that he was talking to @TryNinja

By the way, don't you consider accepting his offer to pay you 200 euros a month?

if you get in contact with neteller and skrill I believe they will forward this case to the police and block his account

He already spend money and neteller/skrill can not help, they say it is my responsibility.

If someone really believes that he will pay back, let him send me 1263 first and he should wait for the @ratas every month for 200 hahaha

[TryNinja]

maybe this user @TryNinja  can have more information about him, I saw in the scammers historical post that he was talking to @TryNinja

He would often ask me for help on Telegram about which crypto wallet to use, which network to use for X coin, etc... I even received his DAI and converted to BTC for him once. I never thought he would do something like this.

I have no extra info about his IRL info and looks like he deleted our chat history, for some reason.

[Poker Player]

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Leaving aside that the guy is a scammer, I don't quite see what convinced you to send money for a guy to bet on you. What kind of game are we talking about? Sports betting? Casino games?

This forum has many such bankrupt people who have lost money on gambling and other addictions and are now on lookout of people whom they can scam and compensate their losses . Be very very careful in this place.

This forum does not moderate scams, but I think this quote should be well visible in several parts of the forum: in the gambling and lending sections at least and for when someone sends you a PM for the first time as well.

[martingalecalculator.com]

i think i understand what happened to you
some guys scam others by using 1xbit demo money means fake money to practice in 1xbit after that they contact you in telegram and they show you the betting history from 1xbit of course its demo/fake money as 1xbit offer demo accounts  then you think oh go this dude a high ruler he is legit so you send him money probably he said he know so guaranteed table tennis games and he needs a partner or things like that

was i correct about he showed you 1xbit history ? and you thought that was real money ?
and another bonus  1xbit it self a scam so be careful


also why do you think that's his real name and address ? did he show you his passport or ID card while he holding it next to his face in web camera ?
if not then the name of the neteller or skrill might be fake as many sell and buy such accounts for the scam

[Slow death]

i think i understand what happened to you
some guys scam others by using 1xbit demo money means fake money to practice in 1xbit after that they contact you in telegram and they show you the betting history from 1xbit of course its demo/fake money as 1xbit offer demo accounts  then you think oh go this dude a high ruler he is legit so you send him money probably he said he know so guaranteed table tennis games and he needs a partner or things like that

was i correct about he showed you 1xbit history ? and you thought that was real money ?
and another bonus  1xbit it self a scam so be careful

this must not be the real story, in fact this theory you have is far from the truth, my theory:

OP is a very experienced person in the gambling world, he has used all sports betting sites and he was banned from some sites, because he is a person very well known for gambling sites he used these scammers to get the scammer create an account on the gambling sites and make a bet for the OP, I think the scammer would earn some money doing this kind of business, but after the OP gave a good amount to the scammer for the scammer to bet, the scammer could not resist and got away with all the money.

The question here is why does the OP need other people to place bets for him? Wouldn't that be against gambling sites' TOS?

also why do you think that's his real name and address ? did he show you his passport or ID card while he holding it next to his face in web camera ?

good question, i'm curious to know the answer

[martingalecalculator.com]

i think i understand what happened to you
some guys scam others by using 1xbit demo money means fake money to practice in 1xbit after that they contact you in telegram and they show you the betting history from 1xbit of course its demo/fake money as 1xbit offer demo accounts  then you think oh go this dude a high ruler he is legit so you send him money probably he said he know so guaranteed table tennis games and he needs a partner or things like that

was i correct about he showed you 1xbit history ? and you thought that was real money ?
and another bonus  1xbit it self a scam so be careful

this must not be the real story, in fact this theory you have is far from the truth, my theory:

OP is a very experienced person in the gambling world, he has used all sports betting sites and he was banned from some sites, because he is a person very well known for gambling sites he used these scammers to get the scammer create an account on the gambling sites and make a bet for the OP, I think the scammer would earn some money doing this kind of business, but after the OP gave a good amount to the scammer for the scammer to bet, the scammer could not resist and got away with all the money.

The question here is why does the OP need other people to place bets for him? Wouldn't that be against gambling sites' TOS?

also why do you think that's his real name and address ? did he show you his passport or ID card while he holding it next to his face in web camera ?

good question, i'm curious to know the answer

i understand your point . i once wagered well in Stake and went in top 3 during the daily race my stats were visible and my name was the same name i use in telegram so i was contacted by some scammers where  most of them they use the same trick and same scinario like hey i have secret tips look to my betting history i bet like 20000euro per game and i need betting partners  ofcourse they showed me 1xbit demo account i knew it was a scam i just wasted their time

my theory came because in the screenshot of the conversation with the scammer the scammer said he lost the money on 1xbit

secondly  if the op is well known as you say and he tried a lot of betting sites how come he will end up asking a person to open account at 1xbit i epeat  1xbit its the oldest scam site every newcomer to betting in crypto know that site is a scam never pays and you say the op tried all the betting sites to end up in 1xbit ? it doesnt make sence if the op  didnt scam him 1xbit will do .

[younger41]

No, I certainly didn't ask him to open an account on 1xbit or betcoin... as a Portuguese citizen he can open an account on their bookmakers which are very good and there are several, and he already had open accounts in all bookies becouse he bet too. All are regulated by Portuguese law, and they can not void bets or close account as in online bookmakers, especially those who have a license in Curacao  (99% are fraudsters, everyone knows that). Who is a little longer in the world of betting know what it means and how much such bookmakers are worth.

I met another Portuguese who also had problems with him, and he told me his name and city where live.

I met one Russian here, we made 2.5k profit in a week, you can hear his experience if you don't believe me.

[joker_josue]

His name is Rui Francisco and live in Vila franca xira (Portugal)
His first telegram account: https://ibb.co/8c254Ry

First of all, I regret this situation! It's always very annoying to suffer a blow.
I'm from Portugal and I also spoke with him via telegram and here on the forum.

Since I never gave him much confidence and so I did not analyze the conversations and information indicated by him.

When I learned about this topic, I went to analyze the information I have, to see what I could help.

And making a more careful analysis of the way he wrote, despite not being a bad Portuguese, it was a very careless way. Which is not normal.
As I said at the time, I understood that, but I didn't care, because he never asked me for anything either.

He also told me that he was from Vila Franca de Xira, but honestly, I have my doubts.

His telephone number associated with the Telegram is +31 687767940. This is not a Portuguese number. I hadn't noticed it before, until today.
This is a number from the Netherlands and I found other information that regrettably indicates that it is possible fraud:
https://opgelicht.avrotros.nl/forum/handelsites-bv-marktplaats-en-ebay-f26/s-r-wilkens-uit-middelburg-t34326.html

Today I still tried to talk to him via Telegram, but he didn't answer of course. I regret not having more information to give.

But if I can help with anything else, just say so.