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"unexpected surprises"
As an example "unexpected surprise" I can add my situation with some gambling pages. By the law, on the territory of my country I can gamble on the pages approved by government (this pages got licenses). For example I can not register or even open sportsbet.io page, as my provider blocks that page. But I can register on roobet, betfury, duelbits for example. Another but - I can play slots and table games there, but betting sections is "restricted for my country". On one hand I can gamble there, on the other these pages are restricted for my country, however they are accessible. Advice - when choosing a casing, select the one where you have full access to offered services.
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January 21, 2022, 08:58:44 AM |
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I think that this is a good way, but unfortunately when you operate with small amounts, there may not be any special problems. However, if you began to constantly use some kind of casino and suddenly won a large amount that you are going to withdraw to your account, then unexpected problems may arise for you. For example, you will be required to have KYC, which you did not do when you started using the casino, or some other form of identity verification. These unexpected "surprises" often spoil all the fun of the game, forcing players to engage in stupid correspondence with support.
When we expect too much in a casino we tend dissapoint, sometimes we cant gst all what we want in a single casino like in playing cards or when it comes in betting or sportspetting. We need to find a site were they much excel with which have a particular attraction but must have both a good background and support system that is anle to solve problems fast especially when it comes to deposit and withdrawals as well as being fair. Not only in gambling but all other aspects of life once you except too much from a thing you end up disappointed because you place high value most especially gambling that is associated with lots of addictions and this can lead to losses because of the demands and quest to recover from previous loses.
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January 21, 2022, 10:03:35 AM |
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Hello am new here and am interested in gambling but with the rate of scams casino I am finding it difficult to know the right site that don't scam players?
Yes, there are some platforms that have low or no reputations in gambling. It is because most of them scam or deceive their users in the terms of services, withdrawal, bonuses, and some others. So far, I will check them in the scam accusation whether they are there or not. Then, I will also prefer to choose gambling platforms or casinos that are promoted by the popular or trusted members here, with no negative trust. Advice - when choosing a casing, select the one where you have full access to offered services.
And sometimes, some platforms obligate us to do KYC to enable us to use all accessor services, moreover including to withdrawal.
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January 21, 2022, 10:40:47 AM |
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Hello am new here and am interested in gambling but with the rate of scams casino I am finding it difficult to know the right site that don't scam players?
Yes, there are some platforms that have low or no reputations in gambling. It is because most of them scam or deceive their users in the terms of services, withdrawal, bonuses, and some others. So far, I will check them in the scam accusation whether they are there or not. Then, I will also prefer to choose gambling platforms or casinos that are promoted by the popular or trusted members here, with no negative trust. Advice - when choosing a casing, select the one where you have full access to offered services.
And sometimes, some platforms obligate us to do KYC to enable us to use all accessor services, moreover including to withdrawal. KYC is also important for casinos and providers. Some key vendors tend to avoid providing games in countries that are restricted somehow. For instance, you can't play NetEnt's games in Australia. You can't access those games if you are trying to play them directly from Australia. You can do it if you use VPN or something, and this is for this case they use additional KYC.
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January 21, 2022, 11:07:58 AM |
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And sometimes, some platforms obligate us to do KYC to enable us to use all accessor services, moreover including to withdrawal.
That's really happening and you have to understand that before you sign up, it's on their terms and agreement that they can implement such rules that are favorable to them. And if they ask for it, there's a reason why they do that. When they've caught a customer and they have suspicions with him, they're going to ask for KYC during the withdrawal and that's going to be annoying somehow for the customer. But do you have an option? You don't have and you have to bear with the process and rule that you've signed up for.
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AicecreaME
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January 21, 2022, 12:16:48 PM |
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Hello am new here and am interested in gambling but with the rate of scams casino I am finding it difficult to know the right site that don't scam players?
First, this shouldnt be on this board and should be on Gambling discussion. Next, in regards with the topic then i do understand your point and hesitancies but looking in this board alone would really solve out your queries or questions in mind. Best way on choosing? 1. Reputation 2. Fairness 3. Good support 4. Instant withdrawal 5. Good/Decent promotions. In overall, just looking with popularity and reputation will include all of those aspects. I definitely agree with everything that you have listed. It's really of importance to set a list of characteristics of what you want in a gambling casino before actually entering and deciding to make it as your go-to. Researching and background checking about them would certainly help you in making decisions. The moment you researched would be the moment you should check about the reviews about them. The reputation, products and service, processing and transaction time, fees, and conflict resolution and customer service should be considered when you want to pick the best casino for you to play everytime. You can check all of these by proper researching and not only relying on one source of information, but in many to assure it is not biased and altered. You can also check the reviews here in forum that could help you out if there are casinos you are already eyeing for. Just check the gambling discussion section as most posts about it are located there.
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January 21, 2022, 01:17:39 PM |
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"unexpected surprises"
As an example "unexpected surprise" I can add my situation with some gambling pages. By the law, on the territory of my country I can gamble on the pages approved by government (this pages got licenses). For example I can not register or even open sportsbet.io page, as my provider blocks that page. But I can register on roobet, betfury, duelbits for example. Another but - I can play slots and table games there, but betting sections is "restricted for my country". On one hand I can gamble there, on the other these pages are restricted for my country, however they are accessible. Advice - when choosing a casing, select the one where you have full access to offered services. You should add besides full access there should be a good reputation if that's the only criteria you will end up playing on casinos with bad reputations like 1XBIT, I'm glad that I'm in a territory where I can access the majority of casinos listed in this forum and I'm playing on some of them when checking a casino be sure to read reviews coming from the community and from gambling reviewers which write fair reviews.
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January 21, 2022, 01:49:19 PM |
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"unexpected surprises"
As an example "unexpected surprise" I can add my situation with some gambling pages. By the law, on the territory of my country I can gamble on the pages approved by government (this pages got licenses). For example I can not register or even open sportsbet.io page, as my provider blocks that page. But I can register on roobet, betfury, duelbits for example. Another but - I can play slots and table games there, but betting sections is "restricted for my country". On one hand I can gamble there, on the other these pages are restricted for my country, however they are accessible. Advice - when choosing a casing, select the one where you have full access to offered services. You should add besides full access there should be a good reputation if that's the only criteria you will end up playing on casinos with bad reputations like 1XBIT, I'm glad that I'm in a territory where I can access the majority of casinos listed in this forum and I'm playing on some of them when checking a casino be sure to read reviews coming from the community and from gambling reviewers which write fair reviews. Of course, it is right to study the casino as long as you start transferring money to it. But I was interested in one question about all these reviews of the players of this casino. Indeed, sometimes in a large casino there are a lot of reviews, both good and negative, you should read them, but how long will it take for such reading until at least some clarity appears. And you will understand what is really happening in the casino. And if you choose from several casinos, then, accordingly, the time spent on these researches is multiplied by the number of such casinos. And the question arises, is it worth it to meticulously study the issue of casino reliability, or is it better to quickly start playing and find out everything yourself. Well, of course, first with small amounts that you can afford to lose painlessly?
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Hello am new here and am interested in gambling but with the rate of scams casino I am finding it difficult to know the right site that don't scam players?
Yes, there are some platforms that have low or no reputations in gambling. It is because most of them scam or deceive their users in the terms of services, withdrawal, bonuses, and some others. So far, I will check them in the scam accusation whether they are there or not. Then, I will also prefer to choose gambling platforms or casinos that are promoted by the popular or trusted members here, with no negative trust. Advice - when choosing a casing, select the one where you have full access to offered services.
And sometimes, some platforms obligate us to do KYC to enable us to use all accessor services, moreover including to withdrawal. KYC is also important for casinos and providers. Some key vendors tend to avoid providing games in countries that are restricted somehow. For instance, you can't play NetEnt's games in Australia. You can't access those games if you are trying to play them directly from Australia. You can do it if you use VPN or something, and this is for this case they use additional KYC. To gamble, individual gambler need to pay attention to restricted areas to avoid been locked up with notice. There are some areas which are majorly restricted to different gambling platforms. To pay close attention, one need to read or go through the site terms and restricted areas that are not allowed to prevent lost of funds.
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January 21, 2022, 02:33:39 PM |
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KYC is also important for casinos and providers. Some key vendors tend to avoid providing games in countries that are restricted somehow. For instance, you can't play NetEnt's games in Australia. You can't access those games if you are trying to play them directly from Australia. You can do it if you use VPN or something, and this is for this case they use additional KYC.
Most of people currently more likely to pick the casinos not KYC required so they usually will avoid casinos with KYC verified and about it i think it's always be debatable for KYC purpose that most of players doesn't like this feature because want to stay anonymous while gambling and contradict to the players that some of casinos KYC required because they have the particular reasons why this mandatory and also using VPN not recommended while visiting the casinos because some of them doesn't allowed the players use this or it's more likely against their TOS if the players gambling using VPN Yes, it is. But we are okay if the KYC is limited for those who win for more than some amount because we know that some casinos apply limitations for withdrawal. If someone passes the limit, he should verify his account by filling out the KYC to withdraw his money. The KYC's purpose is to help the casino know if their members will not use the money from the illegal activity. Before we want to use VPN, we can ask them to make sure if using VPN is allowed so we do not break any rules. Some casinos will not have a problem using VPN as long as we do not break the other rules.
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January 21, 2022, 02:54:47 PM |
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KYC is also important for casinos and providers. Some key vendors tend to avoid providing games in countries that are restricted somehow. For instance, you can't play NetEnt's games in Australia. You can't access those games if you are trying to play them directly from Australia. You can do it if you use VPN or something, and this is for this case they use additional KYC.
Most of people currently more likely to pick the casinos not KYC required so they usually will avoid casinos with KYC verified and about it i think it's always be debatable for KYC purpose that most of players doesn't like this feature because want to stay anonymous while gambling and contradict to the players that some of casinos KYC required because they have the particular reasons why this mandatory and also using VPN not recommended while visiting the casinos because some of them doesn't allowed the players use this or it's more likely against their TOS if the players gambling using VPN Terms are changing from time to time including about KYC related thing. These days, KYC seems to be something very common in this gambling industry due to license and regulation. Unlike what we can see several years back when crypto gambling industry is still in the beginning stage as well as on the other crypto industry such as exchanges. Regarding KYC, always ask the support first so we can be sure about the rule in the casino.
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Terms are changing from time to time including about KYC related thing. These days, KYC seems to be something very common in this gambling industry due to license and regulation. Unlike what we can see several years back when crypto gambling industry is still in the beginning stage as well as on the other crypto industry such as exchanges. Regarding KYC, always ask the support first so we can be sure about the rule in the casino.
I think we all have noticed that change, years ago being able to gamble without going through any form of KYC was pretty much a given in most casinos, however since then governments have pressured all kind of centralized entities to try to identify their clients, they claims this is done to reduce crimes but we know that what they really want is to identify how big are your holdings, and if they can to tax those holdings and try to get a cut from the money you have been saving in bitcoin for years.
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January 21, 2022, 09:20:51 PM |
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Terms are changing from time to time including about KYC related thing. These days, KYC seems to be something very common in this gambling industry due to license and regulation. Unlike what we can see several years back when crypto gambling industry is still in the beginning stage as well as on the other crypto industry such as exchanges. Regarding KYC, always ask the support first so we can be sure about the rule in the casino.
I think we all have noticed that change, years ago being able to gamble without going through any form of KYC was pretty much a given in most casinos, however since then governments have pressured all kind of centralized entities to try to identify their clients, they claims this is done to reduce crimes but we know that what they really want is to identify how big are your holdings, and if they can to tax those holdings and try to get a cut from the money you have been saving in bitcoin for years. and in response to what panjul said, one can always check the terms of the site in terms of kyc. but if it is not yet clear to you and want to confirm the kyc related stuffs, yes, you can contact the support. at least it is coming from their end. but if you are a player who is very careful, you should always browse their ToS before anything else. because usually, player will only read it after they incurred a violation and their funds are put on hold. a lot of accusations are rooting from the player's violation of ToS and not from the site's end.
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Yes, it is. But we are okay if the KYC is limited for those who win for more than some amount because we know that some casinos apply limitations for withdrawal. If someone passes the limit, he should verify his account by filling out the KYC to withdraw his money. The KYC's purpose is to help the casino know if their members will not use the money from the illegal activity. Before we want to use VPN, we can ask them to make sure if using VPN is allowed so we do not break any rules. Some casinos will not have a problem using VPN as long as we do not break the other rules.
Unfortunately, that's one of the issues when withdrawing a huge amount, most casinos don't state any limit on when they'll carry out KYC unlike in exchanges where they show you the exact limits. For the case of using VPN I think nearly all casinos don't recommend us to use it knowing it could easily break one of their terms and conditions. On the other hand not all casinos are strict when it comes to using VPN even if it's in their terms and conditions there are gamblers who get away with using VPN for several months or even longer.
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January 22, 2022, 04:15:10 AM |
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For me, it's always the reputation. Everything stems from it so you can't really go wrong, they wouldn't have a good rep if they are cheating their customers or if they are being rude to them right? So I am pretty sure that reputation would be the greatest indicator that something is right with that casino that we are choosing.
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traderethereum
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January 22, 2022, 05:08:00 AM |
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Yes, it is. But we are okay if the KYC is limited for those who win for more than some amount because we know that some casinos apply limitations for withdrawal. If someone passes the limit, he should verify his account by filling out the KYC to withdraw his money. The KYC's purpose is to help the casino know if their members will not use the money from the illegal activity. Before we want to use VPN, we can ask them to make sure if using VPN is allowed so we do not break any rules. Some casinos will not have a problem using VPN as long as we do not break the other rules.
Unfortunately, that's one of the issues when withdrawing a huge amount, most casinos don't state any limit on when they'll carry out KYC unlike in exchanges where they show you the exact limits. For the case of using VPN I think nearly all casinos don't recommend us to use it knowing it could easily break one of their terms and conditions. On the other hand not all casinos are strict when it comes to using VPN even if it's in their terms and conditions there are gamblers who get away with using VPN for several months or even longer. Hopefully, the casino can state the limit on withdrawing the money on their TOS so we know how much we can withdraw not to break their rules. I think the casino will allow people to withdraw their money less than $1,000 without verifying their account so that will not give us a problem in the future. But somehow, the casino can change their rules anytime, making us careful when withdrawing the money. If I am not mistaken, I already read that some casinos still allow us to use VPN, but we need to verify our account using our real IP and then we can use VPN without a problem, but I forgot the site's name. Yes, we should not risk our account using a VPN if their terms say it is not recommended.
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robelneo
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January 22, 2022, 06:41:27 AM |
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Yes, it is. But we are okay if the KYC is limited for those who win for more than some amount because we know that some casinos apply limitations for withdrawal. If someone passes the limit, he should verify his account by filling out the KYC to withdraw his money. The KYC's purpose is to help the casino know if their members will not use the money from the illegal activity. Before we want to use VPN, we can ask them to make sure if using VPN is allowed so we do not break any rules. Some casinos will not have a problem using VPN as long as we do not break the other rules.
Unfortunately, that's one of the issues when withdrawing a huge amount, most casinos don't state any limit on when they'll carry out KYC unlike in exchanges where they show you the exact limits. For the case of using VPN I think nearly all casinos don't recommend us to use it knowing it could easily break one of their terms and conditions. On the other hand not all casinos are strict when it comes to using VPN even if it's in their terms and conditions there are gamblers who get away with using VPN for several months or even longer. Hopefully, the casino can state the limit on withdrawing the money on their TOS so we know how much we can withdraw not to break their rules. I think the casino will allow people to withdraw their money less than $1,000 without verifying their account so that will not give us a problem in the future. But somehow, the casino can change their rules anytime, making us careful when withdrawing the money. If I am not mistaken, I already read that some casinos still allow us to use VPN, but we need to verify our account using our real IP and then we can use VPN without a problem, but I forgot the site's name. Yes, we should not risk our account using a VPN if their terms say it is not recommended. If there's a change of their TOS casinos will always send a notification through their newsletter provided that you are subscribed some casinos opted their members when they sign up, and always check their chat board and their announcement for changes of rules and TOS, your safety very much depends on how you follow the updated TOS, you can't give an alibi that I read when I sign up because TOS changes from time to time, so be sure to always be updated.
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DoublerHunter
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January 22, 2022, 08:49:48 AM |
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For me, it's always the reputation. Everything stems from it so you can't really go wrong, they wouldn't have a good rep if they are cheating their customers or if they are being rude to them right? So I am pretty sure that reputation would be the greatest indicator that something is right with that casino that we are choosing.
^ This is not enough for me, reputation sin not enough if the services have a failure or have massive fees per payout. There should be enough features that satisfied us as a gambler, look at this thread made by Karl https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382430.0, it is a voting pool about a good feature of a gambling site and I think the choices that list on the pool is quite all good. Upon picking a good gambling casino, not only 1 feature that we look at to determine the best casino, it should be more than 5 features to be considered as good.
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ScamViruS
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January 22, 2022, 09:11:19 AM |
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For me, it's always the reputation. Everything stems from it so you can't really go wrong, they wouldn't have a good rep if they are cheating their customers or if they are being rude to them right? So I am pretty sure that reputation would be the greatest indicator that something is right with that casino that we are choosing.
Casinos with a good reputation often create conflicts with their customers, which goes against that customer. Now if a good reputable casino doesn't have enough games then it may not be your choice. So taking the opinion of the community can be a good way to choose a casino. Because if an experienced player gives a good review about a casino, then new players are interested in doing more research about it. A casino's reputation will be good as long as they work honestly with their customers.
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tabas
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January 22, 2022, 10:07:50 AM |
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For me, it's always the reputation. Everything stems from it so you can't really go wrong, they wouldn't have a good rep if they are cheating their customers or if they are being rude to them right?
Well, that's the shortcut but it's a fact. If someone would want to stay safe then check out the reputation of the casino. You'll get to see people telling what's good about them and will definitely support and recommend them. So I am pretty sure that reputation would be the greatest indicator that something is right with that casino that we are choosing.
And that goes with the reviews of the other gamblers but still, you need to check if those are legitimate reviews then because the fake reviews are also rampant. But in here in crypto gambling, majority of us here knows what are the good and bad ones.
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