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January 27, 2022, 11:34:02 AM
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You decide to get vaccinated and you visit the nearest government approved health center to take your shot of the COVID vaccine. These are all the vaccine options available;

Moderna - Which is approved for people who are  12 years and older, two standard dosage required.

Pfizer-BioNTech - Which is approved for people who are 5 years and older, two standard dosage required.

AstraZeneca - Which is approved for people who are 18 years and older, two standard dosage required.

Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) - Which is approved for people who are 18 years and older, one standard dosage required.

If you have the opportunity to select the vaccine you want to take? Which vaccines (give reasons) will you prefer as your first and second dosage? (Mixed dose schedules)


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January 30, 2022, 06:31:48 PM
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You have left out Omicron. This is nature's vaccine,and it is the most effective. It is also the safest.

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January 30, 2022, 07:15:11 PM
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None. I'll let my own immune system handle this shit.

Chose one of them randomly If you are >60. At that age If you don't die from covid19, you'll either die from a heart attack, diabetes or just flu so it really don't make a difference. Get one if you give af. If not, still get none.

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January 31, 2022, 11:49:56 PM
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None. Last April/May I already got two jabs and it's enough for me. Actually, I had opportunity to choose from these 4 vaccines and took Pfizer without thinking much. I just wanted to stay away from Astra Zeneca. Though, even without getting vaccinated, most likely that I would have light covid - I'm young and healthy person. In general, I got vaccinated just get covid passport.
But now, when omicron is spreading, vaccination is more or less pointless. For most people it have mild symptoms and vaccine don't give much protection from getting infected. Omicron is best vaccine now.

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February 01, 2022, 09:33:44 AM
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In Mexico they have healthy buffet on offer from vending machine. No ID needed.

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February 05, 2022, 08:10:37 PM
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In Mexico they have healthy buffet on offer from vending machine. No ID needed.

In the meantime, Mexico has one of the highest fatality rates from Covid-19, or are these statistics also rigged by big pharmaceuticals? I don't understand where you got the information that Ivermectin is effective against Covid, it's an antiparasitic for worms, unless you're a horse, I don't see much use.

On top of that, you anti-vaxxers are hilarious, you are against vaccinations because they haven't been "tested" enough, according to your claims, however, you'll trust a drug which has no ties with treating Covid-19, but is actually used for parasites. Since when is a vending machine in Mexico providing medical advice?

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February 05, 2022, 08:37:23 PM
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In Mexico they have healthy buffet on offer from vending machine. No ID needed.

In the meantime, Mexico has one of the highest fatality rates from Covid-19, or are these statistics also rigged by big pharmaceuticals?

These 'developing world' countries are given a quota to hit or they don't get the IMF and World Bank funding to run their countries and pay off their politicians.  They report whatever they are told to by the globalists (who assign most of their political leaders), but it really doesn't mean anything on-the-ground.

The media were reporting swamped hospitals on the same day I went to one to try to get a sick girl some help and found it to be for all intents and purposes mothballed.  The one I found which was open (to 'negative PCR test' people only) was very very empty, but they at least gave her a hospital bed for 10 days to keep her from dying.  Cost me a lot out of pocket though.  More than the average person could save in 10 years.

I don't understand where you got the information that Ivermectin is effective against Covid, it's an antiparasitic for worms, unless you're a horse, I don't see much use.

On top of that, you anti-vaxxers are hilarious, you are against vaccinations because they haven't been "tested" enough, according to your claims, however, you'll trust a drug which has no ties with treating Covid-19, but is actually used for parasites. Since when is a vending machine in Mexico providing medical advice?

In my household we all got some interesting long-running series of minor cold then minor flu things.   As I reported earlier, after three days I finally took some of my Ivermectin and, whatever it was, it was totally gone in 6 hours.

One of my house-girls had the thing linger on while the rest of us got over it.  After a few weeks we got her a massage and I gave her some Ivermectin.  After the first dose she was almost back to normal with minor re-occurrences.  After the second dose (several days later) it totally disappeared.

One of the silver linings of this plandemic is that I found out about Ivermectin.  In my experiences so far it seems to be a fuckin wonder-drug.  Whoever found it should get a Nobel prize in medicine for the discovery.  Oh wait, they did!

  https://newsrescue.com/2015-nobel-prize-winning-ivermectin-inhibits-infection-by-hiv-1-and-denv-studies-reported/

Effective against a couple of the globalist's favorite little gifts for the 'overpopulated' countries.  HIV and DENV.  Worse still, the peeps can afford it.  No wonder the globalists and their media propaganda machine hate it so much!


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February 05, 2022, 10:21:08 PM
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If there is no omicron vaccine I will chose pfzier because their products are always good and recommended. But as it stands now, the International common law Court of justice has banned the sale, use, distribution or application of all this vaccines so I won't choose any again .
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February 06, 2022, 04:25:46 AM
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In Mexico they have healthy buffet on offer from vending machine. No ID needed.

In the meantime, Mexico has one of the highest fatality rates from Covid-19, or are these statistics also rigged by big pharmaceuticals?

These 'developing world' countries are given a quota to hit or they don't get the IMF and World Bank funding to run their countries and pay off their politicians.  They report whatever they are told to by the globalists (who assign most of their political leaders), but it really doesn't mean anything on-the-ground.

The media were reporting swamped hospitals on the same day I went to one to try to get a sick girl some help and found it to be for all intents and purposes mothballed.  The one I found which was open (to 'negative PCR test' people only) was very very empty, but they at least gave her a hospital bed for 10 days to keep her from dying.  Cost me a lot out of pocket though.  More than the average person could save in 10 years.

I don't understand where you got the information that Ivermectin is effective against Covid, it's an antiparasitic for worms, unless you're a horse, I don't see much use.

On top of that, you anti-vaxxers are hilarious, you are against vaccinations because they haven't been "tested" enough, according to your claims, however, you'll trust a drug which has no ties with treating Covid-19, but is actually used for parasites. Since when is a vending machine in Mexico providing medical advice?

In my household we all got some interesting long-running series of minor cold then minor flu things.   As I reported earlier, after three days I finally took some of my Ivermectin and, whatever it was, it was totally gone in 6 hours.

One of my house-girls had the thing linger on while the rest of us got over it.  After a few weeks we got her a massage and I gave her some Ivermectin.  After the first dose she was almost back to normal with minor re-occurrences.  After the second dose (several days later) it totally disappeared.

One of the silver linings of this plandemic is that I found out about Ivermectin.  In my experiences so far it seems to be a fuckin wonder-drug.  Whoever found it should get a Nobel prize in medicine for the discovery.  Oh wait, they did!

  https://newsrescue.com/2015-nobel-prize-winning-ivermectin-inhibits-infection-by-hiv-1-and-denv-studies-reported/

Effective against a couple of the globalist's favorite little gifts for the 'overpopulated' countries.  HIV and DENV.  Worse still, the peeps can afford it.  No wonder the globalists and their media propaganda machine hate it so much!


You're providing no valid sources whatsoever, while still claiming that a drug that still doesn't have sufficient testing against Covid-19, is a safe and effective treatment for patients. In the meantime, you're against vaccinations which have already proven effective, it doesn't make any sense.

On top of that, Ivermectin founders have indeed won the Nobel prize, but that has nothing to do with Covid-19, but only for its ability to battle parasitic worms. Winning the Nobel prize doesn't make it a Covid-19 treatment.

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You're providing no valid sources whatsoever, while still claiming that a drug that still doesn't have sufficient testing against Covid-19, is a safe and effective treatment for patients. In the meantime, you're against vaccinations which have already proven effective, it doesn't make any sense.

On top of that, Ivermectin founders have indeed won the Nobel prize, but that has nothing to do with Covid-19, but only for its ability to battle parasitic worms. Winning the Nobel prize doesn't make it a Covid-19 treatment.

I said nothing whatsoever about 'covid-19'.  I said whatever I (and seemingly practically everyone I know in the country) had recently was in my case, and several people's, put to an end with Ivermectin.

Looks like 'covid-19' is a catch-all for a variety of similarly developed biological agents released onto a population, and also a re-name for various other ordinary ailments such as seasonal influenza.  Also the label the stick on ailments such as bacterial pneumonia and fungal infections which are significantly aggravated by careful chosen policies such as recommending/demanding the use of cloth masks.

More and more the word 'covid-19' is synonymous with gene therapy side-effects which is exactly what I predicted would happen before they even started mass-jabbing people under EUA.

Anyway, looks like Ivermectin was kind of a sleeper wonder-drug which helps with a very wide range of issues.  To the degree that the gene therapies work by infecting cells with designer genetics, Ivermection may well be effective against harm from the so-called 'covid-19 vaccines' as well.  No wonder they went full-court press on stamping out Ivermectin.  As usual, the sheeple took the 'horse pasted narrative' hook-line-sinker...and many extra will be maimed or die because they did.


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February 06, 2022, 02:42:33 PM
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Pretty sure I had the Delta vaccine..

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February 06, 2022, 07:56:57 PM
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None. I'll let my own immune system handle this shit.

Chose one of them randomly If you are >60. At that age If you don't die from covid19, you'll either die from a heart attack, diabetes or just flu so it really don't make a difference. Get one if you give af. If not, still get none.

Your thoughts are childish.
You don't have to leave yourself to fate, you have to fight.

The vaccine is designed to protect us from covid.

Yes, I don't disagree that there will be some side effects, but are you staying healthy without the vaccine?
Doctors would not insist on taking the vaccine again and again if the vaccine did too much harm.

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None. Last April/May I already got two jabs and it's enough for me. Actually, I had opportunity to choose from these 4 vaccines and took Pfizer without thinking much. I just wanted to stay away from Astra Zeneca. Though, even without getting vaccinated, most likely that I would have light covid - I'm young and healthy person. In general, I got vaccinated just get covid passport.
But now, when omicron is spreading, vaccination is more or less pointless. For most people it have mild symptoms and vaccine don't give much protection from getting infected. Omicron is best vaccine now.

Unfortunately, I had no option to choose which vaccine I should take. The educational institution was opened in a hurry and the only condition was to be vaccinated. And the vaccine called AstraZeneca was being given at the health complex next to where I live. Since I didn't have much time, I took the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Even after getting the vaccine, I was exposed to a new wave called Omicron, Bad Luck! Not only me but almost everyone has been affected. I think one should be careful not to rely entirely on vaccines. Nose masks and hand sanitizers should be used. It will be possible to reduce this epidemic if everyone is alert from their respective places.  But not to mention the vaccine, after the discovery and adoption of the vaccine, however, the Corona situation returned to normal.

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You have left out Omicron. This is nature's vaccine,and it is the most effective. It is also the safest.
Sincerely, this is the piece of information that is not really made relayed to individuals before vaccine administration and I feel its very wrong. Of course the names might be mentioned but with the free nature of it and the fact that, only a type might be administered within a region by government authorised agencies, one is left without the option of choice.

Even after getting the vaccine, I was exposed to a new wave called Omicron, Bad Luck! Not only me but almost everyone has been affected. I think one should be careful not to rely entirely on vaccines. Nose masks and hand sanitizers should be used. It will be possible to reduce this epidemic if everyone is alert from their respective places.  But not to mention the vaccine, after the discovery and adoption of the vaccine, however, the Corona situation returned to normal.
Just like this user rightly said, he got exposed after taking a vaccine. I get the point that, government and its agencies are doing what they could to ensure the vaccines is made available to everyone within a short time but, merely asking what are the allergies a person might have doesn't seem like enough as, a few others aren't even aware if they've got one.
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I already got the Pfizer one - but only because the choice was either that or Sinovac. So far hasn't died yet and hopefully not dying within 5 years.
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I prefer the mRNA ones because they have the "cleanest" process. They're 100% created synthetically in a lab, with no ingredients from animals, and they contain just the lipid-encased mRNA and some inactive ingredients which I consider to be about as harmless as water. The flu vaccine for comparison is usually either grown in chicken eggs or in cells taken from dogs, which I see as a much "dirtier" process. Between Pfizer and Moderna, there doesn't seem to be a big difference. Pfizer has seen wider usage and testing, while Moderna seems to evoke a stronger immune effect. If I was worried about vaccine side-effects, then perhaps I'd prefer Pfizer, while if I had a weakened immune system, perhaps I'd prefer Moderna.

J&J, AstraZeneca, and Sputnik-V are very similar to the mRNA ones in that they contain genetic code which causes your body to create spike protein, but instead of delivering the genetic code directly via mRNA, it's delivered via a modified adenovirus. Some people are concerned about being injected with genetic code, and such people should not feel any better about J&J/AstraZeneca/Sputnik-V than Moderna/Pfizer, since it's basically the same idea. Involving the extra adenovirus seems like an additional complication and source of possible side-effects to me, and it seems that these vaccines are somewhat less effective than the mRNA vaccines, so I don't like this technology as much as mRNA. J&J was originally touted as only needing one dose, but from what I've heard more recently, it sounds like this was mainly a difference in marketing, and J&J should've really had 2 doses as well to evoke the same immune response.

The mRNA vaccines have been very rarely associated with myocarditis (especially in young men), while the viral-vector vaccines have been very rarely associated with serious blood clots (especially in young women). If you have a choice between them, perhaps you should therefore take your sex into account. Myocarditis is a more common side-effect for the mRNA vaccines than the blood clots are for the viral-vector vaccines, but it's also less likely to be serious.

For those worried about the genetic code aspect, Novavax, Sinopharm, and CoronaVac use a more traditional vaccine manufacturing process where they inject you with inactivated versions of the virus (Sinopharm and CoronaVac) or just pure spike protein (Novavax). However, these types of vaccines need to contain an adjuvant, a drug which boosts your immune response. Sinopharm and CoronaVac use aluminium hydroxide as the adjuvant, which I would not particularly want to be injected with because there is some slight evidence that it could have neurological side-effects. Novavax uses an adjuvant which comes from the soap bark tree, which sounds a bit better to me because it's more natural, though there hasn't been much study on long-term effects of this AFAIK. I personally feel a lot better with the vaccines which don't need to contain this additional adjuvant drug, but if you're nervous about the genetic-code aspect, you might weigh the risks differently than me.

So my final ranking would be:
 1. Pfizer / Moderna
 2. AstraZeneca / J&J / Sputnik V
 3. Novavax
 4. Sinopharm / CoronaVac

If I was afraid of getting COVID, then I'd take even the Chinese vaccines if that was all that was available. They're probably no worse than some over-the-counter drugs in terms of safety, and they will provide some protection from COVID. If I would only be annoyed to get COVID, then I'd personally probably only accept the other 6 vaccines I mentioned, and I'd greatly prefer the mRNA ones.

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February 08, 2022, 03:15:15 AM
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OP, your first responder gives good advice. You waited this long why decide to get the potentially unsafe shots now?


You have left out Omicron. This is nature's vaccine,and it is the most effective. It is also the safest.

You nailed it perfectly, thank you good sir.
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February 08, 2022, 10:13:19 AM
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If I was afraid of getting COVID, then I'd take even the Chinese vaccines if that was all that was available. They're probably no worse than some over-the-counter drugs in terms of safety, and they will provide some protection from COVID. If I would only be annoyed to get COVID, then I'd personally probably only accept the other 6 vaccines I mentioned, and I'd greatly prefer the mRNA ones.

It seems the brands available did played a part in vaccine hesitancy. In my country it took months for vaccination to take off. What was mostly available from the national government was Sinopharm. Not much people show up that some vaccination centers close early in the afternoon. When polled people said they really wanted to take a vaccine and afraid of getting infected but they don't want anything from China. The local governments decided to buy Western brands and the national government eventually followed suit.

Got the Pfizer (the first non-China brand that arrived) and got 2 doses. Did felt slight chest pains initially though I haven't got myself tested yet (I'm broke). Convinced me to not take boosters.
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February 08, 2022, 02:08:36 PM
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It seems the brands available did played a part in vaccine hesitancy.

This may have happened to an extent in my country (UK) too, where AZ was the main vaccine, but became the subject of media scare-stories (driven in part, I'm sure, by some understandable anti-UK sentiment coming from the continent).

This has led to a situation where many people here are mixing vaccines. My first 2 shots were AZ, but the booster was Pfizer. I didn't have any choice over this, the decision was made for me by the NHS.

Interestingly, there are studies* that suggest a mix-and-match vaccine buffet may confer greater protection than staying with a single manufacturer.





* Anti-vaxxers take note: the Professor Snape in this video is not the character from Harry Potter.






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