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January 28, 2022, 10:57:36 PM
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Or, you can just hold. Remove the stress in trying to invest and just keep on investing. Learning the bare minimum together with investing in coins that would develop in the long run, and not just built up hype, would help you a lot. Honestly, short-term is not really something I'd let someone new to trading do, heck even long-term traders would probably say that they don't particularly like something like day trading. It's just way too much stress imo, especially for newbie traders.
Can one be wiser than the market? Cause I see no way or reason why an investor we think of cheating the market when it's always end in tears. The market has its own way of balance the market movement and trend. There many things one has to learn form the market because its very volatile and versatile with different aspect. one has to learn and understand the brain behind such actions.

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January 28, 2022, 11:04:05 PM
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Or, you can just hold. Remove the stress in trying to invest and just keep on investing. Learning the bare minimum together with investing in coins that would develop in the long run, and not just built up hype, would help you a lot. Honestly, short-term is not really something I'd let someone new to trading do, heck even long-term traders would probably say that they don't particularly like something like day trading. It's just way too much stress imo, especially for newbie traders.
Can one be wiser than the market? Cause I see no way or reason why an investor we think of cheating the market when it's always end in tears. The market has its own way of balance the market movement and trend. There many things one has to learn form the market because its very volatile and versatile with different aspect. one has to learn and understand the brain behind such actions.
You're right mate. As the market is still unpredictable, we neither to say that we can make such thing right and all we do is just our speculations, and we acted upon on it based on what we understand. That is why we have to keep our patience stronger and able to remain calm in every situation to come especially during the bear market otherwise, we just fail.

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January 28, 2022, 11:19:05 PM
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-snip-That is why we have to keep our patience stronger and able to remain calm in every situation to come especially during the bear market otherwise, we just fail.
Patience is an important thing so that the strategy that we made earlier continues to run even though the tempo is slightly hampered due to market conditions that do not allow it. Stay calm in any condition, and have a reserve of funds will be very helpful to buy at the lowest price. Rest assured the bear market will not always dominate, the bull market will also come soon.

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January 28, 2022, 11:28:43 PM
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Trading requires a good strategy because then we can determine the right time to sell or buy coins. The ups and downs of the crypto market are commonplace and often happen and as traders, we inevitably follow the flow of the crypto market. it's just that we also have to be able to take advantage of the existing moment if there is a good moment. failure in trading is not the end of everything, after all, if we can learn from our mistakes we will not get continuous failure. it is true that if it fails then try again tomorrow, do the best we can to be able to learn again and become better at trading.

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January 28, 2022, 11:46:52 PM
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Confused enough, what is wise in the crypto market, and what makes we don't be wiser than the market?
I don't think that everyone needs to limit their wisdom in facing every market situation. Even we don't know what will happen to the crypto market in the future, as long as the wise decisions will help, it is okay enough.
We are aware of how cruel is market sometimes, how the market can break our limits and dream so sudenly. But, the fact that we stillneed wise insead of greedy and panic is really essential.
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January 28, 2022, 11:50:00 PM
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Just come to think of it.

When someone wants to be wiser in the market, there are lots of ideas on his mind.

Isn't it better to be like that so that they will work on how to deal with the market trend either it's bullish or bearish?

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January 28, 2022, 11:52:21 PM
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When Bitcoin price increases by 10%, everyone will say "the dip is over!"

When Bitcoin price decreases by 10%, "damn bullshit bear is coming!"

There are really times that people are dragged by the hype. It's common. But to predict something out from that reference only, it's inappropriate. Never ever be wiser than the market but instead, be wise on our strategy how to go with the flow with the market.

You can strategize on how to take advantage of the market, whether it is in bearish or bullish season. A smart trader can always earn profit no matter what the condition of the market is. It would be a challenge for everyone to find a good technique on how to lessen losses let alone earn profits. But it takes experience on how to survive in this market. If you will give up easily, you won't achieve what you desire in this market.

But not all can do that. For me, it's best that some people will think negatively with just a small bit of price movement.

I will admit I'm one of those who think that whenever Bitcoin price increase by 10% during the bear market, it's now the end of the bearish trend. It's something that I learn and realizes that a certain trend isn't going to vanish easily like that.
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January 28, 2022, 11:58:41 PM
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Trading requires a good strategy because then we can determine the right time to sell or buy coins. The ups and downs of the crypto market are commonplace and often happen and as traders, we inevitably follow the flow of the crypto market. it's just that we also have to be able to take advantage of the existing moment if there is a good moment. failure in trading is not the end of everything, after all, if we can learn from our mistakes we will not get continuous failure. it is true that if it fails then try again tomorrow, do the best we can to be able to learn again and become better at trading.

Of course, a good strategy is a must.

Actually, there's no perfect strategy. People will really end up using other strategies and find what's suitable and appropriate to use.

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January 29, 2022, 01:21:35 AM
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First, learn with your past mistakes.

If you've been trading for a few months or longer, you already have enough experience and knowledge that you can use to take advantage of those mistakes you did in the past.

Avoid being greedy and you should always target what's achievable. What's wrong with the new traders today, they're idealists but they're not realistic.
And they stick to what they think will work, but not taking it seriously. The reason why traders mostly fail is they never exert extra efforts so they can win their trades, because they believe that trading could make them instantly rich.

If you think you have potentials to make a good trade, enhance it. But don't be greedy and even think that you are good enough to overtake the market, because you will never win from the market.
Those that think that they can be rich with trading so quick, there's actually the fact that it's possible. But them coming from being a newbie, that's just so wrong and offbeat. Their mindset should go along with how to cope with the market and learn how to trade properly, how to handle the pressure and emotion that we're dealing of so hard.

First, learn with your past mistakes.

If you've been trading for a few months or longer, you already have enough experience and knowledge that you can use to take advantage of those mistakes you did in the past.

Avoid being greedy and you should always target what's achievable. What's wrong with the new traders today, they're idealists but they're not realistic.
I think the best way so we can avoid being greedy is to have satisfaction in the profits we have. Set aside the get rich quick mentality. We can be rich in time by trading but we can do it more slowly, and not to keep chasing the market. Overtrading will only make you a loser in the end because you end up gambling even your hard earned money.
Yeah, being satisfied and the content will help you to conquer the hardship of being greedy. It's not going to be easy but there's a way to overcome greediness and if someone is dealing with it, he should realize that he has to measure himself if he's going to the point of greediness.



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January 29, 2022, 02:00:16 AM
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Just come to think of it.

When someone wants to be wiser in the market, there are lots of ideas on his mind.

Isn't it better to be like that so that they will work on how to deal with the market trend either it's bullish or bearish?
But unfortunately, people seem not like that because they tend become panic when the market moves to the other side.
They can not see the opportunity that they can get from that instead still trying to chase the pattern but they still do not figure out what is happening to the market.
If you want to be wiser in the market, you need to have enough experience to look how bigger your chance to follow the market.
Trying to calm down can be one of the things to become wiser when the market changes the direction.

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January 29, 2022, 03:30:31 AM
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Just come to think of it.

When someone wants to be wiser in the market, there are lots of ideas on his mind.

Isn't it better to be like that so that they will work on how to deal with the market trend either it's bullish or bearish?
Yes, that's probably the thing but I think that what OP meant in this context is that you can't be overconfident when you are in the market because you don't know what's going to happen next so it's not advisable to be greedy or in this case wiser than the market because you'd end up losing money if you're not careful and you keep that carefree attitude.
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January 29, 2022, 01:40:28 PM
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Even the so-called gurus and experts out there aren’t wiser than the market. They can predict all they want, but it’s not accurate and perfect either. Newbies, beginners and average Joes out there are just falling prey to these gurus and experts thinking that they know what they’re doing when to buy or sell.

Of course, the technical analysis, candlesticks, patterns, etc., could help us a bit to analyze where the market is heading along with the potential bullish/bearish news around the corner that would highly influence BTC’s price. We’re not wiser than the market and never will be. It’s unpredictable and it can just change directions without warning and all of a sudden anytime.

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January 29, 2022, 01:40:47 PM
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That is the nature of trading.

Indeed, that is the very nature of trading, to ride along the movement of the market. But doing technical analysis that enable traders to make decisions, based on the forecasted market movement plus the experiences, is just being wise but not necessarily competing with the market.
I have done with the TA, chart analysis, a lot of basis that we could use but none of these things will give us assurance, we're still facing in huge risks. To be wiser than the market is not important for me but what I need is to have a clear vision of what I do. It simply we can't avoid losses no matter what we do and this was because we can't make accurate forecasting, yet, it was still an anonymous trend to come that surely surprises us.

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January 29, 2022, 01:55:16 PM
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That is the nature of trading.

Indeed, that is the very nature of trading, to ride along the movement of the market. But doing technical analysis that enable traders to make decisions, based on the forecasted market movement plus the experiences, is just being wise but not necessarily competing with the market.
The market is dynamic and verse, also people trading the market should be more verse and dynamic. The traders need to be wiser in order to win the market.
There is a clear distinction between greediness and wiseness.
You need a primary strategy and also have some secondary or backup strategies, incase the market takes your major strategy unaware.
Remember to always check the market volume, demand and supply and make good use of the order nooks.
Market is a high tension, but it affects mostly the people without an insulator. What is your insular???

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We’re not wiser than the market and never will be. It’s unpredictable and it can just change directions without warning and all of a sudden anytime.

We can be wiser than the market even though it is an unpredictable market. If you are a winner always it means you are getting something right and wiser. If you are consistent failure you will be forced out of trade and a loser that meaning not being wiser. The unpredictable nature of market is what will also be looked at to be smarter and get required profit.
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Even the so-called gurus and experts out there aren’t wiser than the market. They can predict all they want, but it’s not accurate and perfect either. Newbies, beginners and average Joes out there are just falling prey to these gurus and experts thinking that they know what they’re doing when to buy or sell.

Of course, the technical analysis, candlesticks, patterns, etc., could help us a bit to analyze where the market is heading along with the potential bullish/bearish news around the corner that would highly influence BTC’s price. We’re not wiser than the market and never will be. It’s unpredictable and it can just change directions without warning and all of a sudden anytime.
Traders trained themselves to become wise and skillful, but no matter how good they are, they cannot win over the market. No trader can control the crypto market because of its volatility which makes it very unpredictable. Just think of it, if traders are more wise and brilliant than the market, then expect that all traders are bound to gain profits, and losses will be extinct. That way, the excitement and thrill in trading will start to fade.

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January 29, 2022, 03:35:15 PM
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It's one thing to learn and another thing to earn. It's one thing to know a strategy and another to use it against the market tragedy.
You're absolutely right there. This is one reason I've maintained that self discipline and emotional control make an acquired trading skill a success. No trader succeeds who doesn't have a grip of their emotions. It's the same way successful demo traders fail abysmally when it gets to real life trading. Emotional control is vital in crypto trading.

No one prohibit you to be wiser than the market. You have freedom to be like that IF you can.
But of course, you know that's impossible. The market is the master and has a mind of its own. It does whatever it wants. No one, I repeat, no one can be wiser than the market. Any attempt to do that is like mere mortals equating themselves with the immortality of God.

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January 29, 2022, 03:36:37 PM
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Crypto is indeed full of riddles that I myself still don't really understand. The market moves so fast when the price goes up and now let's come here. We will look for a joint solution of the mistakes that have existed, many traders experience the same mistakes over and over again because they have not found the right solution. All back again or depends on you.

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January 29, 2022, 04:11:10 PM
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Truly present moment isn't actually something I'd let another person to exchanging do, hell even long haul merchants would presumably say that they don't especially like something like day exchanging. Dissimilar to exchanging without knowing your against the pattern in light of the fact that to be straightforward its been my not unexpected mix-up and it resembles you're contending the market and obviously every one of the outcomes will be negative.
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I sincerely envy people who know how to trade for their own money without leverage... The theme really works here - buy cheaper and sell more expensive.  But I constantly encounter people who buy more expensive and sell cheaper. Why and why ...? And it lasts a very long time until the funds are completely drained. ...Fear and greed rule this market. Only mentally inadequate people are engaged in trading alone. There are no geniuses in this market. The market eats everyone up sooner or later. It is good if relatives and friends with credit funds are not affected. Many people's children are paying for the simple moronism of the players.
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