Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION

[Baskin198]

I have unlocked the thread as I have a question for stake

Since you believe some games were fixed, have you refunded any players who lost money on those games?

And please post the result of the player investigation. Its been 40 days lets see how long it takes if any investigation is actually going on

Probably investigation about your case is over.

Don't know if you are able to read or just rushed through the comment but the investigation is NOT OVER. If the investigation is over as you said, then they must tell me which game they found was fixed and provide the proofs/report along with it.

I don't know why some are blindly taking sides but freezing the account just because I won 29/32 is terrible.

I was allowed to gamble all this while, if they deemed I shouldn't be able to withraw then what was the logic on allowing me to gamble?

A few questions to stake and @stunna please answer them straightforward


1- Please name the matches that you claim are fixed and provide enough evidence
2- Why I was not allowed to withdraw but allowed to gamble?
3- 5 days back my account was put to withdraw only mode, even then I was not able to withraw. When I asked support they simply removed the withdraw only mode silently.
4- If a player is winning 50 bets straight, does that give you the ability to call them match fixer? If yes please mention that in your terms & conditions

Mind you while I was winning bets on TT, I was also placing 20+ bets on other games like LOL, DOTA2, etc .. the same amounts if NOT MORE that I placed on table tennis. If I was doing match-fixing, why would I gamble on other events that big?

5- Are you going to refund the players who lost money to a fixed match? If not then how do you justify taking away funds from the winners? You win in both situations!
6- IMPORTANT - If you said I submitted fake documents then that should put me into ineligible category and you should not allow a player ineligible to place bets, how do you explain that?

[rohang]

While I am having to greatly redact what I can share due to an ongoing investigation and not wanting to reveal our internal integrity measures. I will provide some insight into this situation. It is of our firm belief that user is engaged in match fixing and these concerns were echoed by our odds provider who independently warned us of your activity. On this thread you are witnessing some members of this match fixing ring all desperate to get their cut of this money.

OP found some information regarding fixed table tennis matches as he started taking maximum amount of profit from bets there where he never wagered before like that. His own XRP address had a transaction sent to a prior caught match fixer which looks like a payout for the information he got via him.

This link to the above match-fixing ring, in hindsight, likely gave the customer access to funds that subsequently increased staking - 75% of the accounts turnover occurred between Nov 2021 and 12th Jan after being operative since Nov 2019.

The customers Table Tennis activity on 8th Jan was flagged by our  team after the user suspiciously bet on a very precise result as the match went Live. Within 22s the user bet on the match to finish 3-0 for €6.5k at 2.0; 50s later €5.7k at 2.6 on there being exactly 3 games in the match; 26s later, another €700 on Correct Score 3-0 at 2.2; and then 2x more for €1.5k total on exactly 3 games 3mins later; total loss from user on this match was -€17.5k

This most recent example was backing against a player which user then proceeded to back against on two more occasions on the 10th and then 11th of January - another sign of match-fixing with a syndicate in contact with, or ‘having their hooks into’, a player.

During January on Table Tennis the customer had 32 bets, all on a specific Table tennis competition, winning 29 of them at avg odds of 2.23. We laid €266k of Table Tennis bets in this time - an avg of €8.3k per bet Vs an avg. of €423 (1,965% increase) per bet since the accounts 1st bet in Nov 2019. The 3 bets which lost saw us make €5.4k profit, but in total during the month of January on Table Tennis we lost -€229.4k to the user — highly suspicious activity. The players in question are being investigated by the organizers of the table tennis tournament.

This situation was made even worse by OP trying to pass a variety of suspected fake identification documents as his own, all of which were rejected by our integrity team. This resulted in a block of your account. You sent us 4 different ID's all of them with different names, different numbers, and even different nationalities and places of birth.

All the above mentioned facts in conjunction with the ongoing investigation that confirmed your links to a well known match-fixer, support our decision of blocking your account and we will be pursuing the return of any funds.

hey stunna/stake/odds provider etc,

For my argument I am going to take your comment as 100% truth.

can u answer why stake still has russian TT games available to bet on ?
If u are that worried and sure about matches being fixed , why not stop offering these markets weeks ago?

are u not free rolling users then ? U can always decline to payout citing fixed games but did ANYONE get a refund on those games who payouts u withheld ?

obviously stake is doing very  well right now, YET u are still offering the dodgy games that you yourself say have match fixers.

IMO this just shows the greed and immorality of stake.com management.

[examplens]

Don't know if you are able to read or just rushed through the comment but the investigation is NOT OVER. If the investigation is over as you said, then they must tell me which game they found was fixed and provide the proofs/report along with it.

yes, I saw that the investigation was still ongoing. I also saw that the investigation went to a higher instance.
it can certainly be interesting if it turns out that there was some kind of rigging of the results it is good for you if you have submitted false documents, you will avoid responsibility with complicity.

During January on Table Tennis the customer had 32 bets, all on a specific Table tennis competition, winning 29 of them at avg odds of 2.23. We laid €266k of Table Tennis bets in this time - an avg of €8.3k per bet Vs an avg. of €423 (1,965% increase) per bet since the accounts 1st bet in Nov 2019. The 3 bets which lost saw us make €5.4k profit, but in total during the month of January on Table Tennis we lost -€229.4k to the user — highly suspicious activity. The players in question are being investigated by the organizers of the table tennis tournament.

[QuickAccount]

1- Please name the matches that you claim are fixed and provide enough evidence
2- Why I was not allowed to withdraw but allowed to gamble?
3- 5 days back my account was put to withdraw only mode, even then I was not able to withraw. When I asked support they simply removed the withdraw only mode silently.
4- If a player is winning 50 bets straight, does that give you the ability to call them match fixer? If yes please mention that in your terms & conditions

1. According to Stunna, atleast from my understanding, it wasn't the amount won or how many times you won, but the dead accuracy of your match bets, and the fact thats the funds from your XRP wallet was linked to other match fixers.

2. Im guessing this is due to their legal obligation to need KYC before payout, but not to gamble.

3. Must have been a mistake on the staffs part which they fixed but you still complain about

4. I have a feeling you didn't read the probably 30 or so pages of Terms of Service that you agreed to when you signed up for this casino.

[Baskin198]

1- Please name the matches that you claim are fixed and provide enough evidence
2- Why I was not allowed to withdraw but allowed to gamble?
3- 5 days back my account was put to withdraw only mode, even then I was not able to withraw. When I asked support they simply removed the withdraw only mode silently.
4- If a player is winning 50 bets straight, does that give you the ability to call them match fixer? If yes please mention that in your terms & conditions

1. According to Stunna, atleast from my understanding, it wasn't the amount won or how many times you won, but the dead accuracy of your match bets, and the fact thats the funds from your XRP wallet was linked to other match fixers.

2. Im guessing this is due to their legal obligation to need KYC before payout, but not to gamble.

3. Must have been a mistake on the staffs part which they fixed but you still complain about

4. I have a feeling you didn't read the probably 30 or so pages of Terms of Service that you agreed to when you signed up for this casino.

I'll wait for Stunna to reply because your answers neither matter nor make sense. No TOS would have a rule like winning 29 bets from 32 is not allowed lmao

[QuickAccount]

1- Please name the matches that you claim are fixed and provide enough evidence
2- Why I was not allowed to withdraw but allowed to gamble?
3- 5 days back my account was put to withdraw only mode, even then I was not able to withraw. When I asked support they simply removed the withdraw only mode silently.
4- If a player is winning 50 bets straight, does that give you the ability to call them match fixer? If yes please mention that in your terms & conditions

1. According to Stunna, atleast from my understanding, it wasn't the amount won or how many times you won, but the dead accuracy of your match bets, and the fact thats the funds from your XRP wallet was linked to other match fixers.

2. Im guessing this is due to their legal obligation to need KYC before payout, but not to gamble.

3. Must have been a mistake on the staffs part which they fixed but you still complain about

4. I have a feeling you didn't read the probably 30 or so pages of Terms of Service that you agreed to when you signed up for this casino.

I'll wait for Stunna to reply because your answers neither matter nor make sense. No TOS would have a rule like winning 29 bets from 32 is not allowed lmao

Read my above post a few times over, its not the fact that you won 29/32, its the fact that they were dead accurate bets with low probability.

[Baskin198]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

[QuickAccount]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

Please show us the "proof" you have of these events.

[Baskin198]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

Please show us the "proof" you have of these events.

I can't post proofs anytime a stranger asks me mate, once Stunna or anyone reputed wants me to show them, I'll gladly share.

Stunna won't ask though because he already knows it.

[QuickAccount]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

Please show us the "proof" you have of these events.

I can't post proofs anytime a stranger asks me mate, once Stunna or anyone reputed wants me to show them, I'll gladly share.

Stunna won't ask though because he already knows it.

What's the point of publicly claiming you have proof when you won't publicly share it?

[Baskin198]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

Please show us the "proof" you have of these events.

I can't post proofs anytime a stranger asks me mate, once Stunna or anyone reputed wants me to show them, I'll gladly share.

Stunna won't ask though because he already knows it.

What's the point of publicly claiming you have proof when you won't publicly share it?

Because in case stake denies my claims, I can then post proofs.

[QuickAccount]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

Please show us the "proof" you have of these events.

I can't post proofs anytime a stranger asks me mate, once Stunna or anyone reputed wants me to show them, I'll gladly share.

Stunna won't ask though because he already knows it.

What's the point of publicly claiming you have proof when you won't publicly share it?

Because in case stake denies my claims, I can then post proofs.

It seems that you might not be getting your match-fixed money, check your trust.

[actmyname]

Mind you while I was winning bets on TT, I was also placing 20+ bets on other games like LOL, DOTA2, etc .. the same amounts if NOT MORE that I placed on table tennis. If I was doing match-fixing, why would I gamble on other events that big?

Chapter 4: Cover Tactics

To draw away heat, advantage players cannot bet perfectly but must disguise their betting behavior by sacrificing some value. In the example of sportsbetting, the team placed their fixed match bets alongside other smokescreen bets on the latest big matches. They hedged their bets perfectly across the team and were undetectable. There were many other techniques, of course, and they had to alternate between them to maintain caution.

[Maasdamer]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

Please show us the "proof" you have of these events.

I can't post proofs anytime a stranger asks me mate, once Stunna or anyone reputed wants me to show them, I'll gladly share.

Stunna won't ask though because he already knows it.

What's the point of publicly claiming you have proof when you won't publicly share it?

Because in case stake denies my claims, I can then post proofs.

It seems that you might not be getting your match-fixed money, check your trust.

Bitch Stunna wrote this days ago. He is a pathetic liar anyway, perfect guy to represent a scam site like stake.

[CoinsRUs123]

IMPORTANT

I just recall something which is worth sharing.

In 2020, I was asked for KYC and I submitted documents that were declined but I was able to place bets and withdraw funds, because I was losing. I am wondering if declined KYC documents is such a huge problem for them, why was I allowed to gamble/withdraw that time?

Another thing, few months ago some of my bets were settled as win and I cashed out the funds. Then hours later I was told that the bets were settled by mistake and must be voided and that I need to return the funds or my account is locked. I deposited and returned them the funds back then, if I was involved in something wrong, would I ever deposit back and pay them? Instead of just creating a new account.

I have got proofs for both the events so please don't come up with stories this time.

Please show us the "proof" you have of these events.

I can't post proofs anytime a stranger asks me mate, once Stunna or anyone reputed wants me to show them, I'll gladly share.

Stunna won't ask though because he already knows it.

What's the point of publicly claiming you have proof when you won't publicly share it?

Because in case stake denies my claims, I can then post proofs.

It seems that you might not be getting your match-fixed money, check your trust.

Bitch Stunna wrote this days ago. He is a pathetic liar anyway, perfect guy to represent a scam site like stake.

Yep- stunna is a piece of trash just like Eddie. Hopefully one day these guys get what they deserve. Scamming pieces of shit. Eddie living the good life right now but all good things come to an end.

[Baskin198]

Is there an update from the investigation Stunna? If you don't have an update or the players are found not guilty of match-fixing, then please release my funds. You have no reason to lock my funds for 6 months if the players are not involved in what you claim to be fixed games.

[Baskin198]

Mind you while I was winning bets on TT, I was also placing 20+ bets on other games like LOL, DOTA2, etc .. the same amounts if NOT MORE that I placed on table tennis. If I was doing match-fixing, why would I gamble on other events that big?

Chapter 4: Cover Tactics

To draw away heat, advantage players cannot bet perfectly but must disguise their betting behavior by sacrificing some value. In the example of sportsbetting, the team placed their fixed match bets alongside other smokescreen bets on the latest big matches. They hedged their bets perfectly across the team and were undetectable. There were many other techniques, of course, and they had to alternate between them to maintain caution.

Are you part of the stake team? If not then please let stake speak because I have NOT hedged any bets as you claim. I would like to see some proofs of what you are claiming here and if you don't have proofs I guess you were just paid by stake to help them.

[actmyname]

Are you part of the stake team? If not then please let stake speak because I have NOT hedged any bets as you claim. I would like to see some proofs of what you are claiming here and if you don't have proofs I guess you were just paid by stake to help them.

It's one example of what could be done.

I'm certainly no nuclear physicist, and it doesn't take anyone smart to come up with much more advanced strategies. Though, what I can offer is that I've seen many of these cases across the same topic of the sportsbook provider having taken action, across multiple casinos.

If someone is betting a large amount on fixed matches, their other bets can be easily excluded through a number of ways. Even generally, your statistical expectation is only that of the house edge. Considering any odds, if you're set to win 1:1 then you'd have 20+ bets at the same value betting with the sportsbook edge. Anything better than those odds only raise the margin you have, adding flexibility.

I wouldn't mind it if Stake paid me, but the truth is always free.

[Baskin198]

Are you part of the stake team? If not then please let stake speak because I have NOT hedged any bets as you claim. I would like to see some proofs of what you are claiming here and if you don't have proofs I guess you were just paid by stake to help them.

It's one example of what could be done.

I'm certainly no nuclear physicist, and it doesn't take anyone smart to come up with much more advanced strategies. Though, what I can offer is that I've seen many of these cases across the same topic of the sportsbook provider having taken action, across multiple casinos.

If someone is betting a large amount on fixed matches, their other bets can be easily excluded through a number of ways. Even generally, your statistical expectation is only that of the house edge. Considering any odds, if you're set to win 1:1 then you'd have 20+ bets at the same value betting with the sportsbook edge. Anything better than those odds only raise the margin you have, adding flexibility.

I wouldn't mind it if Stake paid me, but the truth is always free.

I have not hedged any bets man, I can show my bet history page and if you are saying I hedged from another account then please ask stake to show those bets I placed from other account to hedge the ones I placed. I don't know why you are confusing things. I am asking a simple question, is the investgation complete? The players are not guilty then please explan why you are holding my funds.

I am placing some 100k xrp bets in a day and considering the house edge is around 15% normally for sports, I would be losing 15k xrp for hedging as per your claim, why would I do that?

Stunna has the time to give merits on your posts but doesn't have the time to answer simple and straightforward questions? I will pay you $100 if you need man but at least be neutral and have some common sense, please?

[Baskin198]

Last page of bets

https://prnt.sc/m8udmeXV5yOT

I am winning 16 bets from some 20 bets and all on different events, does that mean I have fixed all the e-sports leagues around the world and table tennis and evetyhing?