GASTY4 APPEAL

[Igebotz]

he signed a message from this address BTC address bc1qer09xsqpn0gsxf9dqyt7zrkccd8lmy4h6smnuu in the past on the OGnasty thread, can he sign a message from the same address and present it as evidence?

In such instance, retrieving the account is nearly impossible because there is no staked address

I hope the so many users here who haven't staked their addresses will see a reason in what OP is passing through to warrant them taking necessary action to do that now.

Address: bc1qer09xsqpn0gsxf9dqyt7zrkccd8lmy4h6smnuu
Message: Gasty4 is a member of bitcointalk. 2/1/2022
Signature: ICrkWjvWDUP7b5jxyeqBYXnNxHfzc0Y2x2fYB6pbOZk1b2tD8KVR/npsBJjF9CRySGUMveBaBJLJWMdHgfkDi9M=

[LoyceV]

he signed a message from this address BTC address bc1qer09xsqpn0gsxf9dqyt7zrkccd8lmy4h6smnuu in the past

I asked that in post #3

the BTC address associated with the account is from exchange, making it impossible to sign messages

Depositing a large amount of Bitcoin into the address could make ownership plausible, but I don't think Cryptios would accept it.

email access has been lost, and there is no other method to prove ownership?

Let's notify and ask the experts: alanst, 3dOOm, Rizzrack

[Igebotz]

he signed a message from this address BTC address bc1qer09xsqpn0gsxf9dqyt7zrkccd8lmy4h6smnuu in the past

I asked that in post #3

I just looked it up, and I didn't like the OP's explanation; yes, he used it to get merit from OG, but then what? he tossed away the private key? What was the point of the thread, after all, if not to teach newbies how to sign a message and stake their address? Only he has the ability to save himself from his hacker.

the BTC address associated with the account is from exchange, making it impossible to sign messages

Depositing a large amount of Bitcoin into the address could make ownership plausible, but I don't think Cryptios would accept it.

Large amount? Why a large sum if the only goal is to shows that he owns the wallet and has the ability to send and receive money? Don't you think any amount should suffice as long as it proves something?

[hosseinimr93]

Large amount? Why a large sum if the only goal is to shows that he owns the wallet and has the ability to send and receive money? Don't you think any amount should suffice as long as it proves something?

Since that address belongs to an exchange, he is not able to send bitcoin from that. In the case he makes a withdrawal, the fund will probably be sent from the exchange's hot wallet.
Also, sending bitcoin to that address can't prove the ownership. Because everyone is able to do so. If he sends a large amount to that address, it probably means that he owns the wallet. Because he will lose the fund if he is lying.  

[Hispo]

In my opinion something is fishy here, assuming he is using a popular e-mail provider like Google, it should be relatively easy to re-gain access to it if it is associated to a cell number, security key or Authy.
In the worst case it may take a couple of days and even deal with some Google costumer support, but still doable, I believe.

This makes me think that OP is not very familiar with 2 Factor authentication whatsoever, which it is a pity...

[LoyceV]

assuming he is using a popular e-mail provider like Google, it should be relatively easy to re-gain access to it if it is associated to a cell number

The opposite is also true: it would make it easy for an attacker to gain access to your Gmail account after gaining access to your phone number. I consider my Gmail password much more secure than access to my phone number. Countless employees at the phone company could mess with it, while nobody can mess with my password. For that reason I've disabled all "restore options" a long time ago. If I lose access, it's gone.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I have seen several users registering an account on the forum with temporary mail. If this happened to the OP, accessing his account was just a matter of time.

[Hispo]

assuming he is using a popular e-mail provider like Google, it should be relatively easy to re-gain access to it if it is associated to a cell number

... For that reason I've disabled all "restore options" a long time ago. If I lose access, it's gone.

Yes, thats is true SIM swap attacks are a thing and they are the reason one should not use one's phone number for anything money-related or perhaps in any case at all.

I simply find a bit baffling the fact OP did not have a backup plan to acceess his account, I mean, it does not have to be a phone number.
Security key, Google Autheticator, Authy, even a secondary email adress...

Heck, there are even emergency one-time use backup codes in for cases like this one, even thought the security of these are debatable, they can safe one's neck in situations like OP's.

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/1187538?hl=en (Source)

Anyways, hopefully OP can find a way to recover his account.
I must feel terrible to lose one's account like this after the effort invested...

[LoyceV]

I must feel terrible to lose one's account like this after the effort invested...

Gasty4 has only 119 posts. It's not that bad.

[Pmalek]

In my opinion something is fishy here, assuming he is using a popular e-mail provider like Google, it should be relatively easy to re-gain access to it if it is associated to a cell number, security key or Authy.

It also doesn't have to be associated with anything. I have created temporary Hotmail accounts in the past, and they don't require that you add a recovery (secondary) email or a phone number that you can use to get a PIN code to during the creation process. But after a week or so, they start asking you to do it during the login process. So if you intend to use that email in the future, you have to do it, otherwise you can't log in to it anymore. Not sure what happens if you tick the option to remain logged in forever, but I am sure it's the same thing. Even if he had such security measures, he could have used the same password across all sites, so he effectively lost everything.

I am not sure why Gasty didn't take my advice seriously. I have suggested that he makes a video of his screen while he logs into that exchange that generated his Winz.io address. That proves that the person trying to recover the account has access to the exchange and address that was used before the alleged hack took place to receive signature payments.   

[Gaasty8]

Like I buy you advice and idea of doing the video, like I had it already the moment you said that, but what if I still don't get it ?
It's painful you see, I felt down @ Pmalek.
@ lovesmayfamilis thanks for your advice, I'm the blame here no doubts, at times life's humbles you when you're going too fast, and a step backwards make a double step forward.

Since I'm a newbie and I can't post the video, what should be done then ?

[Pmalek]

Gasty4 has only 119 posts. It's not that bad.

He also received 35 merits. A number that could mean a lot to him.

Like I buy you advice and idea of doing the video, like I had it already the moment you said that, but what if I still don't get it ?

You don't get what? If you have the video, you can submit it to the account recovery team because that's the only piece of proof that you have for your Bitcointalk account.

Since I'm a newbie and I can't post the video, what should be done then ?

There is no reason to post it here unless you want the community to give you some feedback. If that's what you want, you can always upload it on YouTube or Vimeo, for example. I know that Imgur allows users to upload videos as well, but I am not sure if they have to be downloaded or if they can be watched online on the platform. After that, you just share the link to it. Have you checked your video to make sure it doesn't contain any identifiable information or hints to your password?

[virasog]

Like I buy you advice and idea of doing the video, like I had it already the moment you said that, but what if I still don't get it ?

You don't get what? If you have the video, you can submit it to the account recovery team because that's the only piece of proof that you have for your Bitcointalk account.

I think by this time he has no idea where to submit his appeal. Posting the proof here or discussing more about it won't help him recover the account.
He need to contact the account recovery team which i am sure he haven't done till yet. Better if someone guide him how exactly to contact the recovery team.

[Igebotz]

Like I buy you advice and idea of doing the video, like I had it already the moment you said that, but what if I still don't get it ?

You don't get what? If you have the video, you can submit it to the account recovery team because that's the only piece of proof that you have for your Bitcointalk account.

I think by this time he has no idea where to submit his appeal. Posting the proof here or discussing more about it won't help him recover the account.
He need to contact the account recovery team which i am sure he haven't done till yet. Better if someone guide him how exactly to contact the recovery team.

The recovery contact link is on the first page of the thread, so he already knew what to do. Posting a video is another way to prove it, but don't you think the hacker would also try to steal the exchange if the email associated with the account is also linked to the exchange?

The recovery team are also members of the forum and must have seen this discussion, however they will not take any further action unless they are contacted with the correct information.

[Cookdata]

In my opinion something is fishy here, assuming he is using a popular e-mail provider like Google, it should be relatively easy to re-gain access to it if it is associated to a cell number, security key or Authy.

Do you mean the same Google where a single mobile phone number can routinely be used to create tens to hundreds of Gmail accounts? If the OP has joined his Gmail account with a phone number that is not his, the account is no longer will be hard to retrieve, and the chances of him having that account back is slim, my friend.

In the worst case it may take a couple of days and even deal with some Google costumer support, but still doable, I believe.

Account recovery without an original key or a cell phone number will be a waste of time and effort, and support will do nothing since they may believe it's an impostor, just like everyone else does right now.

[Igebotz]

In my opinion something is fishy here, assuming he is using a popular e-mail provider like Google, it should be relatively easy to re-gain access to it if it is associated to a cell number, security key or Authy.

Do you mean the same Google where a single mobile phone number can routinely be used to create tens to hundreds of Gmail accounts?

Gmail accounts only permit one phone number per account, but it's optional and only used for password recovery. I've tried to use the same phone number for numerous accounts, but it never worked. I'm not sure if the rules have changed.

In the worst case it may take a couple of days and even deal with some Google customer support, but still doable, I believe.

Account recovery without an original key or a cell phone number will be a waste of time and effort, and support will do nothing since they may believe it's an impostor, just like everyone else does right now.

Full name, Date of Birth, Secret question are other means to retrieve an account via customer support.

[Pmalek]

Posting a video is another way to prove it, but don't you think the hacker would also try to steal the exchange if the email associated with the account is also linked to the exchange?

That's possible if he connected the same accounts to the one email that got hacked. But he stated that he has already created the video, he just doesn't know where to post it.

Are you maybe trying to say that we could be talking to an imposter who is trying to recover someone else's account? That same imposter could have access to the victim's exchange account. That's something that can't be ruled out either. But if that's true, the question is, what happened to the real owner and where is he? The Gasty4 account was active throughout January until the alleged hack happened. Seems unlikely that he would disappear at the same time when someone else started claiming that the account got hacked. Right now, there is only one user saying he is the rightful owner of the Gasty4 account. If there was a 2nd person, it would be much harder to prove who is who. 

[lovesmayfamilis]

If there was a 2nd person, it would be much harder to prove who is who. 

There is another Gaasty, he registered a day earlier than the OP. It looks like an account with 35 merits is going viral . Are you so reassuring for the owner to recover if he sends the video, and everyone is sure that the moderators will agree with his evidence?
But this story is getting more interesting every day.



How long does this? OP is wasting time. During this time, he could, with diligence, collect his lost merits, at least a part.

[Igebotz]

Posting a video is another way to prove it, but don't you think the hacker would also try to steal the exchange if the email associated with the account is also linked to the exchange?

Are you maybe trying to say that we could be talking to an imposter who is trying to recover someone else's account? That same imposter could have access to the victim's exchange account. That's something that can't be ruled out either. But if that's true, the question is, what happened to the real owner and where is he?

No! What I'm trying to imply is that the hacker isn't far away and may be monitoring this post as well, and may take advantage of the situation to hack his exchange account if the OP reviews it here. But his email address was not shown on his profile, I'm still certain that someone close to him hacked the account. Outsider would have been completely unaware that such an email existed.

There is another Gaasty, he registered a day earlier than the OP. It looks like an account with 35 merits is going viral . Are you so reassuring for the owner to recover if he sends the video, and everyone is sure that the moderators will agree with his evidence?
But this story is getting more interesting every day.

That's what we don't know, but it's better to try than to do nothing at all; this is the only evidence he has at the moment, and perhaps the recovery team will find it useful.

[Hispo]

In my opinion something is fishy here, assuming he is using a popular e-mail provider like Google, it should be relatively easy to re-gain access to it if it is associated to a cell number, security key or Authy.

Do you mean the same Google where a single mobile phone number can routinely be used to create tens to hundreds of Gmail accounts?

Gmail accounts only permit one phone number per account, but it's optional and only used for password recovery. I've tried to use the same phone number for numerous accounts, but it never worked. I'm not sure if the rules have changed.

In the worst case it may take a couple of days and even deal with some Google customer support, but still doable, I believe.

Account recovery without an original key or a cell phone number will be a waste of time and effort, and support will do nothing since they may believe it's an impostor, just like everyone else does right now.

Full name, Date of Birth, Secret question are other means to retrieve an account via customer support.

Exactly, It may difficult to deal with Google's customer service,but not imposible, imo.