[Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

If I'm not mistaken, both of them are in Top Rank? Nevertheless, I agree with you that the odds is somewhat really favorable on Shakur. But we all know that Valdez has a good chance to win or even score a devastating knock out with his left hook. Shakur looks for knock out no doubt, but it could be on the body and not on the face against Valdez. And this is what I'm thinking that Shakur will do, target Valdez body early to slow him down and so that his power will diminished because of that crushing body blows that he will throw on Valdez.

[cabron]

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

If I'm not mistaken, both of them are in Top Rank? Nevertheless, I agree with you that the odds is somewhat really favorable on Shakur. But we all know that Valdez has a good chance to win or even score a devastating knock out with his left hook. Shakur looks for knock out no doubt, but it could be on the body and not on the face against Valdez. And this is what I'm thinking that Shakur will do, target Valdez body early to slow him down and so that his power will diminished because of that crushing body blows that he will throw on Valdez.

The more they could just arrange something for a price since they are both in Top Rank. Big fight like this suppose to make money for Top Rank but I'm probably just too paranoid when it comes to this seeing how many underdog today from MMA to boxing had won their battle unexpectedly. Of course both of them can potentially beat each other. Who knows they may even be right about the odds they settle. If Shakur win by close points in UD, I would assume theory correct and Top rank helped him to  go way over his head.

[Smartprofit]

Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.

But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.

Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.

People are motivated by defeat, not victory. 

When a boxer wins too often, he gets the feeling that he is invincible.  It seems to him that he is stronger than any of his opponents.  However, this is a false feeling.  On the contrary, after winning the ring, you need to train even harder.  However, Shakur Stevenson gives the impression of a confident person.  And that's bad...

At the same time, Oscar Valdes is learning from his mistakes.  Oscar understands that he needs to train hard to win this fight. 

He's had bad luck in the past (I mean his bad fight with Conceicao) and now he wants to win. 

I think we are in for a very interesting and exciting boxing match.

[bisdak40]

Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.

But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.

Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.

People are motivated by defeat, not victory. 

When a boxer wins too often, he gets the feeling that he is invincible.  It seems to him that he is stronger than any of his opponents.  However, this is a false feeling.  On the contrary, after winning the ring, you need to train even harder.  However, Shakur Stevenson gives the impression of a confident person.  And that's bad...

At the same time, Oscar Valdes is learning from his mistakes.  Oscar understands that he needs to train hard to win this fight. 

He's had bad luck in the past (I mean his bad fight with Conceicao) and now he wants to win. 

I think we are in for a very interesting and exciting boxing match.

You've got a point there mate, however, i do think that both fighters are too motivated to win this historic match as only a few boxers have unified the four prestigious belts though Shakur seems to underestimate Oscar sometimes but that is a part of selling off this fight.

Oscar has a lot of bad fights (fights where the outcome doesn't meet expectations) but that is all part of the game, all boxers knew that and forget about it as this upcoming fight is a different one.

Yeah, we are in a very interesting fight as rarely in boxing that we have a hard time predicting on who's gonna win and this is one of them though i lean a little bit towards Oscar because of him being a heavy puncher.

[yazher]

Oscar Valdez might not gonna enjoy this one because Stevenson is capable of turning the table of this fight once he can take the punches against Oscar. This is how Unification bout should be and as we all know, they are not really that popular compared to the other boxers and they need to sell this fight with their good performances and some unforgettable events that would gonna escalate the pay-per-view sales of their next fight.

[Russlenat]

Oscar Valdez might not gonna enjoy this one because Stevenson is capable of turning the table of this fight once he can take the punches against Oscar. This is how Unification bout should be and as we all know, they are not really that popular compared to the other boxers and they need to sell this fight with their good performances and some unforgettable events that would gonna escalate the pay-per-view sales of their next fight.

If Stevenson will go toe to toe it will be the advantage of Valdez because it's his style, he can throw and take punches as well, that's what I like about this guy because he is fun to watch, and though he is an underdog here, I would still think his chance legit to win and I see that value on the betting odds.

The current odds for Valdez is +500, that's very attractive.

[stadus]

Oscar Valdez might not gonna enjoy this one because Stevenson is capable of turning the table of this fight once he can take the punches against Oscar. This is how Unification bout should be and as we all know, they are not really that popular compared to the other boxers and they need to sell this fight with their good performances and some unforgettable events that would gonna escalate the pay-per-view sales of their next fight.

Well, if he would just run and Valdez is leading the score, there's no way he will beat Valdez here. They have different style probably but they have to be convincing to the judges if they want to win, and when the fight is close, based on what I see on the previous fights, the aggressor usually get the votes of the judges.

[stadus]

He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight.

I judge his attitude of confidence to have been willing to fight Valdez, so I don't think those words were meant to attack personally but we enjoyed it, because before the game starts there will be a lot of controversy news between the two, although one may be cold and choose to show in the punch in the boxing ring.

Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.

Based on the top rank, Valdez seems to dominate because he has a record of 23 KO and Stevenson with a score of 9 KO, so that in every boxing match, the attitude of the potential winner will maintain his ego after winning a boxing match.

He may have that confidence but that won't help him to beat Valdez especially in the long run, experience-wise and stamina-wise I certainly thinks that Valdez have those advantages as surely numbers won't lie. But yes, you're right, that's just his own way to market the fight even if those words will make him regret once he is on the ring.

As I said, number won't lie. Valdez have more IQ in the ring as he do have more experience than Shakur who's just starting to build his own career.

[Distinctin]

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

Yes, it's true that Oscar Valdez is labeled as an underdog despite of his KO capabilities and good defensive style, him being the underdog is good for us because the odds are much prettier than the crowd and sports favorite Shakur Stevenson who's record isn't that much attractive together with his KO capabilities. Aside from betting, my support also goes for Valdez.

[Russlenat]

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

Yes, it's true that Oscar Valdez is labeled as an underdog despite of his KO capabilities and good defensive style, him being the underdog is good for us because the odds are much prettier than the crowd and sports favorite Shakur Stevenson who's record isn't that much attractive together with his KO capabilities. Aside from betting, my support also goes for Valdez.

I'm also confused why Valdez is the underdog because his records is indeed more impressive than Stevenson. As for the odds, might as well take advantage of this chance while we can take this odds because I have a feeling that this odds will move and not be this pretty until the day of the fight.

Any speculations here on how would this fight ends? I'm thinking that this will be a split or unanimous.

[kaya11]

As I said, number won't lie. Valdez have more IQ in the ring as he do have more experience than Shakur who's just starting to build his own career.

This may be true but, how many champions have lost their belts because of relying of them being an experienced fighter? A hard hit on a chin can knock him out, so it is still early to tell whether the odds of Shakur's winning is zero. Let's wait and see for ourselves if Shakur really has the chances of winning which is I am rooting for.

[freedomgo]

As I said, number won't lie. Valdez have more IQ in the ring as he do have more experience than Shakur who's just starting to build his own career.

This may be true but, how many champions have lost their belts because of relying of them being an experienced fighter? A hard hit on a chin can knock him out, so it is still early to tell whether the odds of Shakur's winning is zero. Let's wait and see for ourselves if Shakur really has the chances of winning which is I am rooting for.

Agreed but if we're not basing it on their experience then where will we base it? We have this discussion to help the bettors like us and give a good opinion. I understand why you said that because you're rooting for Shakur, I won't argue you on that. However this is a discussion about these two and I'm not a fan of Valdez either but seriously looking on their stats it makes me side with Valdez too.

Nobody was saying that Shakur's chances is zero though

[LUCKMCFLY]

But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.

You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over.

Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight.

In this fucking is where the biggest of my doubts comes in, bet that he will resist or Shakur's speed? I don't know, because for me the boxing that Valdez will manage will be something very intelligent, he knows that his strength is to reach more possible rounds than to kill everything by knockout, for me he does not have that style, on the other hand Shakur does, he he is a different kind of boxer.

In a bet right now I think I would go for VALDEZ, I would appeal to Valdez to manage his times more, resist and make him enter his field so that he can dominate, for me that is what will happen.

[bisdak40]

In a bet right now I think I would go for VALDEZ, I would appeal to Valdez to manage his times more, resist and make him enter his field so that he can dominate, for me that is what will happen.

Either by KO or by Decision, the odds for backing Valdez are too tempting while betting for Shakur is not attractive at all, especially the ML.

The fight will be on the weekend already and below are some options/markets on how to bet for the fight and I guess many will go for Oscar with the figures shown below.

Many analysts have said that Shakur is just too quick for Oscar but I think the latter could catch him in the middle rounds when Shakur is already tired and that might be the time Oscar will do damage to Shakur.

[Kemarit]

^^ Yeah, I like both of the odds, it's really very attractive because Oscar Valdez is the underdog although we all know that he has a good and solid power in both hands.

I'm sure that smart money might go with Stevenson, but those bettors who will back up Valdez as the underdog because of that great odds and I think the bookies might have put it wrong to have that kind of odds for him.

[Smartprofit]

Many players are now betting on the victory of Oscar Valdez.  Some experts believe that he is an outsider of the upcoming boxing match.  I don't think...

As far as I know, Valdes is actively preparing for the upcoming fight.  He probably trains his speed characteristics as well.  He really needs to move faster to knock out Shakur.  

If Shakur attacks from the very beginning, then Oscar Valdez will have the advantage.  Valedez is very good at defending himself from direct punches.  After repelling Shakur's attack, he will be able to go on a counterattack.  

The fight could end in a knockout.  In my opinion, Oscar Valdez will win the upcoming fight.

[Ararbermas]

Shakur need to be careful on this fight because surely he will have a big problem in the middle of the fight although he has speed and power punches as well but the technique there's a big difference and for me it's quite skeptical if we will make a comparison between two fighters, wherein surely there will be KO and maybe by Valdez.

[Questat]

Shakur need to be careful on this fight because surely he will have a big problem in the middle of the fight although he has speed and power punches as well but the technique there's a big difference and for me it's quite skeptical if we will make a comparison between two fighters, wherein surely there will be KO and maybe by Valdez.

That's what I wanted to see, technical fighters are boring to watch, except LOMA, so hopefully this fight is going to be a candidate for the fight of the year. I like the fact that they are giving us a good fight, an aggressive fighter versus a technical one, let's see if Shakur would still be able to do his thing when the pressure is high as we all know Valdez just loves to attack.

[freedomgo]

Shakur need to be careful on this fight because surely he will have a big problem in the middle of the fight although he has speed and power punches as well but the technique there's a big difference and for me it's quite skeptical if we will make a comparison between two fighters, wherein surely there will be KO and maybe by Valdez.

That's what I wanted to see, technical fighters are boring to watch, except LOMA, so hopefully this fight is going to be a candidate for the fight of the year. I like the fact that they are giving us a good fight, an aggressive fighter versus a technical one, let's see if Shakur would still be able to do his thing when the pressure is high as we all know Valdez just loves to attack.

Hopefully this fight will be an entertaining to watch and we can see what we expect from this fight as both of them is a different fighter of themselves, Shakur should not only rely on his speed because Valdez will read that movements for sure and could give him a dangerous spot if Shakur is a bit too aggressive as the latter will just be observing him most of the time before he starts to throw few connecting punches that could surely hurt the favorite.

[bisdak40]

Here is the video of the weigh-in.

Both fighters make the weight and they looked trim.

Oscar said that they are ready to bang if needed and well box if needed as well so I think we can witness world-class boxing a few hours from now, good luck with your bets as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9f6477jNvs&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing