CrazyTime and Monopoly, should we trust?

[qwertyup23]

That was a tough question if it's about putting our trust. I rarely bet on that type of game but I do before. I even think it was fair since even it's pre-recorded or I don't know the term to call it if I bet it right, I will win. But too much for speculation now as my conclusion now is, I won't play on those games from now.

Not saying I don't trust them but not comfortable risking money at live games.

I definitely agree with your point.

The problem with live games is that they are prone to manipulation at some point and they are not probably fair. The developers have complete freedom to at least manipulate the odds in their favor, even if this is not likely the case. At this kind of gambling, what you are risking is the trust that you have over the online gambling website. But for the safest bet and odds, it is better to avoid or bet a minimum amount in case something happens.

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[Hamphser]

That was a tough question if it's about putting our trust. I rarely bet on that type of game but I do before. I even think it was fair since even it's pre-recorded or I don't know the term to call it if I bet it right, I will win. But too much for speculation now as my conclusion now is, I won't play on those games from now.

Not saying I don't trust them but not comfortable risking money at live games.

I definitely agree with your point.

The problem with live games is that they are prone to manipulation at some point and they are not probably fair. The developers have complete freedom to at least manipulate the odds in their favor, even if this is not likely the case. At this kind of gambling, what you are risking is the trust that you have over the online gambling website. But for the safest bet and odds, it is better to avoid or bet a minimum amount in case something happens.

If you dont care about those possible issues then go ahead and play with it because there are feelings which live games could really give out something unlike into those others thats why there are still people

who do still prefer on playing even with those trust issues if you couldnt bare it up then you  could always skip up and find out other things which you do much prefer and interest on.
We couldnt really conclude out if they arent fair since it wasnt proven out in the first place.

[MCVXYZ]

That was a tough question if it's about putting our trust. I rarely bet on that type of game but I do before. I even think it was fair since even it's pre-recorded or I don't know the term to call it if I bet it right, I will win. But too much for speculation now as my conclusion now is, I won't play on those games from now.

Not saying I don't trust them but not comfortable risking money at live games.

I definitely agree with your point.

The problem with live games is that they are prone to manipulation at some point and they are not probably fair. The developers have complete freedom to at least manipulate the odds in their favor, even if this is not likely the case. At this kind of gambling, what you are risking is the trust that you have over the online gambling website. But for the safest bet and odds, it is better to avoid or bet a minimum amount in case something happens.

If you dont care about those possible issues then go ahead and play with it because there are feelings which live games could really give out something unlike into those others thats why there are still people

who do still prefer on playing even with those trust issues if you couldnt bare it up then you  could always skip up and find out other things which you do much prefer and interest on.
We couldnt really conclude out if they arent fair since it wasnt proven out in the first place.

He may conclude out because its subjective but there will be problems when we are talking about  evidences to approve anything about this, which is of course objective.

[carlfebz2]

He may conclude out because its subjective but there will be problems when we are talking about  evidences to approve anything about this, which is of course objective.

Of course you would be needing this because pointing out fingers and accusing something which do really need out that sufficient proof so that they would really be facing up some charges but how you would do it?
You are trying out to go up against with a big business and just been said above that as long you could not really able to give out some solid proof then those things would remain as hunches and presumptions.
If you do have those kind of feelings then you could just simply ignore them out.

[madnessteat]

As I expected, most gamblers do not trust this kind of games and this is not surprising because the algorithm of such a wheel is impossible to check and it carries additional risks for the player. In addition, the leading that spins the wheel must be paid and the payment comes out of the players' pockets. That is why the chances that you will lose are always higher.

It's not that they don't trust those games but rather, those people do have a bad experience playing those games. They didn't realize that in whatever form of gambling, there's no such thing as easy money. The same goes on their result playing on luck-based games like dice, slots, roulettes.

If they think those games are not trusted, then better shift career at those gambling types where they can apply their skills.

What makes you think that?

For example I have not played this kind of games because I think they are cheating and I do not need to have experience playing such games to understand it. And I'm sure there are a lot of people like that.

Any gambling in the long run leads to losing. And I have not only the understanding of it but quite a lot of personal experience but I still like to spend time playing poker or slots.

[gantez]

He may conclude out because its subjective but there will be problems when we are talking about  evidences to approve anything about this, which is of course objective.

Of course you would be needing this because pointing out fingers and accusing something which do really need out that sufficient proof so that they would really be facing up some charges but how you would do it?
You are trying out to go up against with a big business and just been said above that as long you could not really able to give out some solid proof then those things would remain as hunches and presumptions.
If you do have those kind of feelings then you could just simply ignore them out.

In such things yes you will need very solid prove to show that you have a good case against a business or any one. Making assumptions of manipulation or something really is not healthy. Before we do allege of something we don't have to assume that can give some charges against you. To assume is very dangerous until you have a prove.

As I expected, most gamblers do not trust this kind of games and this is not surprising because the algorithm of such a wheel is impossible to check and it carries additional risks for the player. In addition, the leading that spins the wheel must be paid and the payment comes out of the players' pockets. That is why the chances that you will lose are always higher.

This could be a good reason but don't expect that gambling games should be easy to win. We need the remainder that the owners come for business of profit like you also so no body want to just pay the other person that way. I look at gambling that way too.

[timerland]

I definitely agree with your point.

The problem with live games is that they are prone to manipulation at some point and they are not probably fair. The developers have complete freedom to at least manipulate the odds in their favor, even if this is not likely the case. At this kind of gambling, what you are risking is the trust that you have over the online gambling website. But for the safest bet and odds, it is better to avoid or bet a minimum amount in case something happens.

Especially when you look at the various proofs that they are cheating - it becomes quite convincing in my opinion.

It might not happen much but the third party providers are definitely shady at best. There are so many clips of unnatural spins on crazy time that it drives me insane.

The physical manipulation aside, it is easy to manipulate the outcome of centralized games as well, so I would not put any trust in that either.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I definitely agree with your point.

The problem with live games is that they are prone to manipulation at some point and they are not probably fair. The developers have complete freedom to at least manipulate the odds in their favor, even if this is not likely the case. At this kind of gambling, what you are risking is the trust that you have over the online gambling website. But for the safest bet and odds, it is better to avoid or bet a minimum amount in case something happens.

Especially when you look at the various proofs that they are cheating - it becomes quite convincing in my opinion.

It might not happen much but the third party providers are definitely shady at best. There are so many clips of unnatural spins on crazy time that it drives me insane.

The physical manipulation aside, it is easy to manipulate the outcome of centralized games as well, so I would not put any trust in that either.

My trust percentage in this game is 30:70 I still give 30% confidence because sometimes this game still gives big wins but still not worth if we want to win big
because the chance to win big is low only happens at certain moments or when the players get bored with bad results then that's when the provider gives a big win, to increase the player's confidence.

[carlfebz2]

He may conclude out because its subjective but there will be problems when we are talking about  evidences to approve anything about this, which is of course objective.

Of course you would be needing this because pointing out fingers and accusing something which do really need out that sufficient proof so that they would really be facing up some charges but how you would do it?
You are trying out to go up against with a big business and just been said above that as long you could not really able to give out some solid proof then those things would remain as hunches and presumptions.
If you do have those kind of feelings then you could just simply ignore them out.

In such things yes you will need very solid prove to show that you have a good case against a business or any one. Making assumptions of manipulation or something really is not healthy. Before we do allege of something we don't have to assume that can give some charges against you. To assume is very dangerous until you have a prove.

There would be always a risks when you do tend to destroy the reputation of some businesses intentionally without having those solid proofs.If you have been doing this on real world then you're fucked up

when things goes against you in return because trying out to destroy someones reputation would really be needing that sufficient and solid proof but people are way too confident on doing this stuff on this

market because it is really hard for you to traced it up which it is really very common to have these kind of unsure or non verified claims.

[harizen]

If you dont care about those possible issues then go ahead and play with it because there are feelings which live games could really give out something unlike into those others thats why there are still people who do still prefer on playing even with those trust issues if you couldnt bare it up then you  could always skip up and find out other things which you do much prefer and interest on.

Regardless if those games are manipulated or pre-recorded (as others say), gamblers will still play on it due to the fact that; a) they have a high winning chance playing there b) gamblers think they can ride on it c) just for entertainment and fun.

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

[Scripture]

If you dont care about those possible issues then go ahead and play with it because there are feelings which live games could really give out something unlike into those others thats why there are still people who do still prefer on playing even with those trust issues if you couldnt bare it up then you  could always skip up and find out other things which you do much prefer and interest on.

Regardless if those games are manipulated or pre-recorded (as others say), gamblers will still play on it due to the fact that; a) they have a high winning chance playing there b) gamblers think they can ride on it c) just for entertainment and fun.

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

That’s why you have to play on a better site, even if there’s a doubt just enjoy playing and look forward for your winnings. This is gambling after all, and the house will always win regardless of your strategy so don’t stress yourself and play the game that you love. Live games are fun to play, its just like you’re in a physical casinos that’s why many are playing those games.

[Lanatsa]

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

Trust is indeed a big word on which as a user you would really be needing to trust up a particular platform on which you do make out some deposits and just part of self awareness and common sense you would choose up on whats the current best platform or site to have on which you do play specially with live games even though it isn't proven its provably fair but with having that current reputation that it
has then you would definitely say that you could trust this one out.

[CaVO32]

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

Trust is indeed a big word on which as a user you would really be needing to trust up a particular platform on which you do make out some deposits and just part of self awareness and common sense you would choose up on whats the current best platform or site to have on which you do play specially with live games even though it isn't proven its provably fair but with having that current reputation that it
has then you would definitely say that you could trust this one out.

Based from the poll, gamblers here are not trusting this kind of live games. And yet, many gamblers are playing this game. So if you don't trust this game, why are you playing?   So yes, for me, if you have doubt about the provable fairness of the game, better choose a trustworthy casino. At least, they are tested with a lot of players and if they are running shady operations, it will be expose by users.

[KennyR]

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

Trust is indeed a big word on which as a user you would really be needing to trust up a particular platform on which you do make out some deposits and just part of self awareness and common sense you would choose up on whats the current best platform or site to have on which you do play specially with live games even though it isn't proven its provably fair but with having that current reputation that it
has then you would definitely say that you could trust this one out.

Based from the poll, gamblers here are not trusting this kind of live games. And yet, many gamblers are playing this game. So if you don't trust this game, why are you playing?   So yes, for me, if you have doubt about the provable fairness of the game, better choose a trustworthy casino. At least, they are tested with a lot of players and if they are running shady operations, it will be expose by users.

When you find something shady make a research and reveal it to the people. Through this thread more users who have used these kind of games now think of the past spending. It is a good work, and it is always good to move away from such platforms than spending.

We've got more number of trusted platforms with provably fair working. Even with those platforms there were bugs that doesn't work fair. Further after reporting this has been solved. So, having an error is different than the entire system being an error. With these games the entire system is an error.

[goinmerry]

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

Trust is indeed a big word on which as a user you would really be needing to trust up a particular platform on which you do make out some deposits and just part of self awareness and common sense you would choose up on whats the current best platform or site to have on which you do play specially with live games even though it isn't proven its provably fair but with having that current reputation that it
has then you would definitely say that you could trust this one out.

Based from the poll, gamblers here are not trusting this kind of live games. And yet, many gamblers are playing this game. So if you don't trust this game, why are you playing?   So yes, for me, if you have doubt about the provable fairness of the game, better choose a trustworthy casino. At least, they are tested with a lot of players and if they are running shady operations, it will be expose by users.

When you find something shady make a research and reveal it to the people. Through this thread more users who have used these kind of games now think of the past spending. It is a good work, and it is always good to move away from such platforms than spending.

We've got more number of trusted platforms with provably fair working. Even with those platforms there were bugs that doesn't work fair. Further after reporting this has been solved. So, having an error is different than the entire system being an error. With these games the entire system is an error.

With regards to live games, there's no way we can find out if it's real or not therefore even with how hard we put on research, we can't have a fair result.

More importantly, just have fun betting at those live games if it's on the reputable casinos since no way they will cheat on us as building a reputation takes years to progress.

I doubt they will cheat on us as it will result in bad reviews in return.

[bitbollo]

Based from the poll, gamblers here are not trusting this kind of live games. And yet, many gamblers are playing this game. So if you don't trust this game, why are you playing?  So yes, for me, if you have doubt about the provable fairness of the game, better choose a trustworthy casino. At least, they are tested with a lot of players and if they are running shady operations, it will be expose by users.

I am not surprised because we have motto "Don't Trust! Verify!"
How you could verify a game like this? Can you trust blindly an audit society and their work?
Personally I cannot trust and I will play just for fun (without expecting nothing back, I mean just for entertainment)

[Silberman]

With regards to live games, there's no way we can find out if it's real or not therefore even with how hard we put on research, we can't have a fair result.

More importantly, just have fun betting at those live games if it's on the reputable casinos since no way they will cheat on us as building a reputation takes years to progress.

I doubt they will cheat on us as it will result in bad reviews in return.

It is true that a casino with a good reputation is not going to take their chances to scam a player just to earn a few more dollars, however even in that instance I do not think I would feel comfortable playing a game like that because as it has been stated by other players there is no way to verify the results at all, and when this is the case there is no way to make sure that you are not being cheated, and in a market where people like to make this kind of verification from time to time just to have some peace of mind this is a huge flaw that cannot be tolerated.

[Lanatsa]

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

Trust is indeed a big word on which as a user you would really be needing to trust up a particular platform on which you do make out some deposits and just part of self awareness and common sense you would choose up on whats the current best platform or site to have on which you do play specially with live games even though it isn't proven its provably fair but with having that current reputation that it
has then you would definitely say that you could trust this one out.

Based from the poll, gamblers here are not trusting this kind of live games. And yet, many gamblers are playing this game. So if you don't trust this game, why are you playing?   So yes, for me, if you have doubt about the provable fairness of the game, better choose a trustworthy casino. At least, they are tested with a lot of players and if they are running shady operations, it will be expose by users.

When you find something shady make a research and reveal it to the people. Through this thread more users who have used these kind of games now think of the past spending. It is a good work, and it is always good to move away from such platforms than spending.

We've got more number of trusted platforms with provably fair working. Even with those platforms there were bugs that doesn't work fair. Further after reporting this has been solved. So, having an error is different than the entire system being an error. With these games the entire system is an error.

With regards to live games, there's no way we can find out if it's real or not therefore even with how hard we put on research, we can't have a fair result.

More importantly, just have fun betting at those live games if it's on the reputable casinos since no way they will cheat on us as building a reputation takes years to progress.

I doubt they will cheat on us as it will result in bad reviews in return.

There would be no bad news because those bets or games couldn't really be verified to be fair on the first place that's why its not surprising that we would able to make out conclusions that they are doing

fair business whether we could be sure on that or not.It isn't really been proven out but since they do have that kind of reputation and popularity then we could really tell on ourselves that they are running
on good terms.Yes, reputation couldn't be build on short term which means that they are really protecting this stuff since this is a long term business to have.

[KTChampions]

Based from the poll, gamblers here are not trusting this kind of live games. And yet, many gamblers are playing this game. So if you don't trust this game, why are you playing?   So yes, for me, if you have doubt about the provable fairness of the game, better choose a trustworthy casino. At least, they are tested with a lot of players and if they are running shady operations, it will be expose by users.

You can trust only if you can check the honesty, in this case it cannot be done, so the "do not trust" option is obvious to anyone who thinks logically. But given the reputation and other factors (lack of information about fraud), many people play it because they believe that the risk of dishonesty in this game is at an acceptable level.

[South Park]

Trust is a big word. If you are playing those games at those reputable sites already, then assume that everything is fair.

Trust is indeed a big word on which as a user you would really be needing to trust up a particular platform on which you do make out some deposits and just part of self awareness and common sense you would choose up on whats the current best platform or site to have on which you do play specially with live games even though it isn't proven its provably fair but with having that current reputation that it
has then you would definitely say that you could trust this one out.

Based from the poll, gamblers here are not trusting this kind of live games. And yet, many gamblers are playing this game. So if you don't trust this game, why are you playing?   So yes, for me, if you have doubt about the provable fairness of the game, better choose a trustworthy casino. At least, they are tested with a lot of players and if they are running shady operations, it will be expose by users.

I am quite sure that those that do not trust in these kind of games are not playing them either, only a small minority of people will decide to engage in a game they do not trust, this is similar to what we see with casinos in general, if a casino has a bad reputation in the forum and people know about it then the chances that they will actually play there are incredibly low, as they will not want to take such a risk when there are so many other casinos in which they can play and which are known to be trusted by the community.