CrazyTime and Monopoly, should we trust?

[traderethereum]

I don't know for sure because it could have been manipulated by the casino secretly and it's likely that they will give people wins so they will keep playing and in the end, they will lose.
I saw in the video that person was lucky to win some money from that game.
I just hope that the gambler can quit that game and get his money before he suffers a loss.
If he could stop in time, maybe he could enjoy his victory.

[coin-investor]

So far on the poll, people here do not trust this game

Yes   - 4 (28.6%)
No   - 10 (71.4%)
Total Voters: 14

I also voted no the house has a big chance to win the game and he can easily manipulate the game by using devices, honestly, I have not played this kind of game because the chances are in favor of the house based on a calculation I prefer playing in a game where I can check the fairness of the game.

[pawanjain]

It's hard to trust such live casinos because we don't know what's happening in the backend.
We can never tell how corrupt the people can be. May be the casinos would have paid enough to the authorities to let them manipulate the rolls.
This is why I prefer online gambling which has a provably fair system so that everyone can verify that their rolls are in fact genuine.

[ryzaadit]

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Motor, brake, electromagnetic what every you are calling.

In youtube already have some video, the wheels is not stopped and keep spinning. It's already one of the proof that can be easy to manipulated, and yes the person who spins the wheel does not control the outcome.

There has some other person/team behind the monitor who controls the outcome ~XD

[Saisher]

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Motor, brake, electromagnetic what every you are calling.

In youtube already have some video, the wheels is not stopped and keep spinning. It's already one of the proof that can be easy to manipulated, and yes the person who spins the wheel does not control the outcome.

There has some other person/team behind the monitor who controls the outcome ~XD

I agree that could be people behind it that can control the wheel the person that spin the wheel cannot do that but he must make it appear that the spin and the results are natural, I trust dice or crash game that this Monopoly game, I have this feeling that everything is staged so they can make it appear natural to avoid the misconception that it's rigged.

[darxiaomi]

We have also a problem between gamblers. Why? Because all the people who are gamblers and say "I only gamble for fun" so this people doesnt care if they lose or they win (i really dont think in the end they doesnt care), and made a endorsement to the casinos.

If all the people really cares about that the control made for the players itself was more more big, but between the addicts and the peoples i called before its really dificult because the wheel keep spining.

OT
And in other things man if you play for fun, a advice i give to you, STOP LIE TO YOURSELF. IF you want fun why dont play without money? Why dont play games with other peoples? why dont play serious games?.

[KTChampions]

Motor, brake, electromagnetic what every you are calling.

In youtube already have some video, the wheels is not stopped and keep spinning. It's already one of the proof that can be easy to manipulated, and yes the person who spins the wheel does not control the outcome.

There has some other person/team behind the monitor who controls the outcome ~XD

Why all this complexity and such risk (at least a few people know about this fraud and can turn everyone in to the police) if the mathematical model of the game allows the casino to always win without any fraud? I don't believe in people's honesty, but if it's profitable to be honest, then the vast majority of people will be honest. Like the casino in this case.

[ryzaadit]

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- Jurisdiction
- Cost money
- You don't know about the provider.

Other reasons, but most of them are because of this issue why people don't want to report the case of manipulation games. Also, license provider who provider for the gambling is not doing anything.

They just only release the online license, take money and that's it.

[darxiaomi]

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- Jurisdiction
- Cost money
- You don't know about the provider.

Other reasons, but most of them are because of this issue why people don't want to report the case of manipulation games. Also, license provider who provider for the gambling is not doing anything.

They just only release the online license, take money and that's it.

Yes.
The vast mayority of frauds on the internet made worldwide are for little money (up to 2500 or 5000 usd). Why? Because a lawyer and open a real investigation cost you too much money than this. And yo dont know if can be resolve and take a lot of years for nothing.
Im not only talking about betting games. Pishing scams etc.
Like this Scam i show up to show, enjoy this video its really amazing. Look how a Hacker catch the scammers (i know its near OT but its fantastic).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUNRzYJcyr8

[South Park]

It's hard to trust such live casinos because we don't know what's happening in the backend.
We can never tell how corrupt the people can be. May be the casinos would have paid enough to the authorities to let them manipulate the rolls.
This is why I prefer online gambling which has a provably fair system so that everyone can verify that their rolls are in fact genuine.

I think the same, the number of ways in which a game can be rigged are basically infinite so live casinos despite how attractive they could be to some people are simply too risky, people can cheat right in front of your eyes and unless they tell you it is impossible to catch them, can you imagine how easy it is to do this when you are not even present in the same room and you are only watching a video? So a game like this is not something in which I am interested at all.

[timerland]

I personally don't think so.

You could make the argument that they are regulated, sure, but in reality a lot of casinos which are regulated end up being rogue.

I don't trust anything that is not 100% provably fair. So even if that means a bit less entertainment, I'm willing to cop that.

[arallmuus]

honestly, I have not played this kind of game because the chances are in favor of the house based on a calculation

For the sake of love, please point me to a game in casino that is favouring the players. I bet you cant because the RTP will always be lower than 100% theoretically. Its about time for people to realize that gambling site is a business designed to favour the site and not the players

In youtube already have some video, the wheels is not stopped and keep spinning. It's already one of the proof that can be easy to manipulated, and yes the person who spins the wheel does not control the outcome

Of course it is 'manipulated' in some ways to balance out the RTP otherwise the game might ended up to keep on paying because some of the game host could be getting pretty lucky with their spins or could be secretly trying to make the players win by trying to manipulate the wheel with their spins which is why the wheel is 'controlled' to avoid those thing to happen but as long as it stays on average of the advertised RTP of the game then it is not really a manipulation though

[ryzaadit]

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If take that from RTP situation. ~XD

But people thinking the wheels is naturally spinning energy without a machine or brake, well can't talk to much anymore about these. People already know is manipulated, do everyone who playing wheels game from Evoluation is legit.

The only things people do is, praying they are play at the time casino give some win to player side during they're playing. I also one of the stupid person, I know is manipulated but still playing the game ~XD

My highest multiplier only 100x in Pachinko Games.

[Oilacris]

-snip-

Motor, brake, electromagnetic what every you are calling.

In youtube already have some video, the wheels is not stopped and keep spinning. It's already one of the proof that can be easy to manipulated, and yes the person who spins the wheel does not control the outcome.

There has some other person/team behind the monitor who controls the outcome ~XD

I agree that could be people behind it that can control the wheel the person that spin the wheel cannot do that but he must make it appear that the spin and the results are natural, I trust dice or crash game that this Monopoly game, I have this feeling that everything is staged so they can make it appear natural to avoid the misconception that it's rigged.

We couldnt really trust it up 100% even if they would try to show about fairness or something that prove out that it isnt staged but we couldnt be sure on whats happening behind the camera

this is why i dont really blame out people on having some doubts.Is there something that we can do? Lets just embrace the reality and for those people who dont
like this way then there are lots of options that they could choose in the market.

[Quidat]

-snip-

Motor, brake, electromagnetic what every you are calling.

In youtube already have some video, the wheels is not stopped and keep spinning. It's already one of the proof that can be easy to manipulated, and yes the person who spins the wheel does not control the outcome.

There has some other person/team behind the monitor who controls the outcome ~XD

I agree that could be people behind it that can control the wheel the person that spin the wheel cannot do that but he must make it appear that the spin and the results are natural, I trust dice or crash game that this Monopoly game, I have this feeling that everything is staged so they can make it appear natural to avoid the misconception that it's rigged.

We couldnt really trust it up 100% even if they would try to show about fairness or something that prove out that it isnt staged but we couldnt be sure on whats happening behind the camera

this is why i dont really blame out people on having some doubts.Is there something that we can do? Lets just embrace the reality and for those people who dont
like this way then there are lots of options that they could choose in the market.

Until now, there's no one could able to prove it out and thats the reason why they are still on business,right?

[jostorres]

I don't know for sure because it could have been manipulated by the casino secretly and it's likely that they will give people wins so they will keep playing and in the end, they will lose.
I saw in the video that person was lucky to win some money from that game.
I just hope that the gambler can quit that game and get his money before he suffers a loss.
If he could stop in time, maybe he could enjoy his victory.

I think in most cases they manipulate the game and they will choose if who will make them win based on the players bet or that player has a special connection with them. There are live games like this before. They do that so that they wont lose or they only lose lesser than if they will run the game fairly.

Even though they are not fair, they are doing their best to make game the look like it was fair but i think some people already know their secret because they are also leaked videos on the web where you can see their tactics. Good point of the op for bringing this up, this can be a warning to other gamblers that are new to this and are on their way to try the game.

[ipanks]

Until now, there's no one could able to prove it out and thats the reason why they are still on business,right?

While people are trying to prove it, the casino will still profit from the players. People who try to prove it will find it difficult because the casino can hide cheating. We can just try to enjoy the game while we still want to keep playing and try to stop as soon as possible before things change drastically. Maybe we can win in one or two rounds, but there is no guarantee we will still win in the next round. So, believe it or not, it will come back to each person.

[KTChampions]

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- Jurisdiction
- Cost money
- You don't know about the provider.

Other reasons, but most of them are because of this issue why people don't want to report the case of manipulation games. Also, license provider who provider for the gambling is not doing anything.

They just only release the online license, take money and that's it.

I did not understand how at least one of the points answers my question. Mathematics works the same in any jurisdiction, and if it makes a profit, then why cheat? Similarly with the remaining two points - why complicate the scheme if the casino wins anyway? This happens regardless of the value of money and whether the game provider is used or not.

[Cling18]

^

I don't trust such games either and I think that the probability of players being cheated is quite high. Of course I have no reliable proof of these words, but in my opinion it is very similar to the TV show "shopping on TV" in which people thanks to advertising and supposedly huge discounts buy cheap and unnecessary things at triple the price.

I couldn't trust this game either and the scary part is, it could easily be manipulated. People are now being too skeptical and most of us know what to trust and what to avoid. I would still prefer traditional yet trusted games though there's nothing wrong in trying new games. It's just that the fairness of the game is important.

[madnessteat]

^

As I expected, most gamblers do not trust this kind of games and this is not surprising because the algorithm of such a wheel is impossible to check and it carries additional risks for the player. In addition, the leading that spins the wheel must be paid and the payment comes out of the players' pockets. That is why the chances that you will lose are always higher.