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February 25, 2022, 09:50:12 PM
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.... could it be the journalist alone ?
I believe most journalists who covered real war got some high praise and awards. Those recognition would later turn to more opportunities and financial gain like promotion or other media deals. That's the only benefit I could think of. How abou you? It's quite odd that you thought of journalist first and not the arm dealers.

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February 25, 2022, 10:26:37 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

Actually,the people who behind the war will be the benefit person.The most affected people of the war is,the people from both the country which engaged in war.Because the government will stop all the tax leviation to the people and most backward section of the society.It also the affect the poor people who doesn't below to the war involvement.So the war should be end for the welfare of all people.
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February 25, 2022, 10:39:27 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
Yes the media goes to a frenzy because they can report the content 24x7 and they can make a lot of money if they could attract users with their war contents and even people who do not watch television normally would tune into to see the updates of a war and thereby getting more advertisement and the weapons manufacturers are the other sector that is going to make a lot of money during situations like this. US is supply Ukraine with weapons and this boost their sales. War is always about strategic positioning and profit making.
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February 25, 2022, 11:35:45 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
Yes the media goes to a frenzy because they can report the content 24x7 and they can make a lot of money if they could attract users with their war contents and even people who do not watch television normally would tune into to see the updates of a war and thereby getting more advertisement and the weapons manufacturers are the other sector that is going to make a lot of money during situations like this. US is supply Ukraine with weapons and this boost their sales. War is always about strategic positioning and profit making.
Those where the least beneficiaries from the war. But honestly, everyone is affected with this war and no one will gain from this in the long run. We can expect that there will be lot of consequences having this war and those may include mass destruction of cities and definitely will create long lasting effects on a country's economy. And to think that the country's head should prioritize first the welfare of the people, now its all gone. Everyone falls as victims.

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February 25, 2022, 11:47:12 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

It is simple, weapon and war equipment manufacturers gain lots of money from war.  Same thing with the pharmaceutical companies gaining huge amounts of money from pandemics.  It has a direct effect on the sector that caters to military demand.

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February 26, 2022, 01:57:09 AM
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Sure, there are gainers in wars, but they are too few compared to the losers. I don't even agree that the benefits one gets from entering a war outweigh that of the losses. The loss of human lives alone, many of them innocent, is already too high a price to pay for any gain. The loss of properties, the trauma that people experience, the disruption of education, economy, commerce, and so on are huge losses that cannot be compensated.

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February 26, 2022, 03:02:19 AM
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Generally there is a saying “When the rich wage war it’s usually the poor who die”. And that statement is true. There are many who will benefit from war. Certain stocks like arms and military equipment manufacturing. Price of crude is thru the roof. Many benefitted from that who knew the invasion would happen.

Who loses? Everybody else. Inflation is crazy high. Will get higher with higher gas prices. Food will cost more, so will everything else pretty much. War is good for a small number of people but for most it’s bad.

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February 26, 2022, 03:04:44 AM
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I believe most journalists who covered real war got some high praise and awards. Those recognition would later turn to more opportunities and financial gain like promotion or other media deals. That's the only benefit I could think of. How abou you? It's quite odd that you thought of journalist first and not the arm dealers.
Arms dealers would benefit but not in the current war, most of them operate and do business during times of peace, most sold arms are sold by countries during wartime, remember US in WW2? They were the arms dealer if I was right. I think the one that benefits here are the 1%, they're able to get away from the warzones with all their money intact unlike the common civilians.
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February 26, 2022, 04:02:23 AM
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War is not good for us, it mostly brings pain and not gains. But of course, there are people who gain from war, and that’s what is called the War Profiteer; they are the ones who are profiting from war by selling weapons or other goods to both parties at warfare.

So, there are definitely people who are benefitting from war, but at the end does it make any sense at all? War brings pain and children suffer it the most. Families are separated from their love ones and people die for it, the economy of the countries involved in the war goes down, just like what we are seeing right now that has been happening. So, war has always been a NO for me. Leaders who truly have people in their mind, would do everything possible to avoid it, because it’s mostly the poor masses that suffers.

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February 26, 2022, 05:30:29 AM
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I believe most journalists who covered real war got some high praise and awards. Those recognition would later turn to more opportunities and financial gain like promotion or other media deals. That's the only benefit I could think of. How abou you? It's quite odd that you thought of journalist first and not the arm dealers.
Arms dealers would benefit but not in the current war, most of them operate and do business during times of peace, most sold arms are sold by countries during wartime, remember US in WW2? They were the arms dealer if I was right. I think the one that benefits here are the 1%, they're able to get away from the warzones with all their money intact unlike the common civilians.
Journalists can always get news sources through people who can be trusted for the validity of the news but they can also be whistleblowers for one thing. But in this case, arms dealers benefited more because they had long-standing orders for weapons from countries that wanted to go to war. The arms dealer has even sent a lot of weapons to these countries without the media knowing. In addition, other parties who might benefit are people behind the war who are interested in controlling more of each country involved in the war or neighbouring countries.

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February 26, 2022, 08:33:51 AM
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Place where journalist work? But, there are still journalist on there and they can be among of the people that spread news so they earn as well but people living on those country are not blind and they know the true situation of their country because they can also see it. Journalist cant lie and say that there is a good news everyday because that is unbelievable when in fact there is a war that currently happens.

Cryptocurrency traders and investors are not a victim here but it was part of the market where prices can fall and its not only cause by the wars alone. Two countries might have damage but there must be one of them that at least won the battle. That can also be considered to as gain.
I am 100% sure that there are news channels that spread "good news" in a lie format somewhere in the world even about this. We have a channel in our nation that shows how all other nations are doing horrible whereas we are doing fine. Sure there are some economical problems but the reality is that we are doing just a tad bit worse whereas other nations are doing horrible.

The reality is much different, we all know other nations are doing much better than us, and yet we are talking about how it is good on that channel. So that means there are journalists who lie even during a war, they just ignore the war and talk about something else. They can literally decide to never talk about the war, and they get away with it as well.
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February 26, 2022, 08:35:11 AM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

I think we can call them evil people... and you can find evil people almost everywhere, among all classes! They earn on other people's misery! They can be part of the government, paramilitary formations, different industries, and businesses that don't mind selling to evil people... and all the middlemen... imagine how much war industries are earning?!

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In the same book, authors say there's no country in the world that earned more on human suffering than Switzerland... Germans were buying so many things with gold (imagine where that gold came from) and Switzerland was the middleman!

I am from Balkan, so I guess we have many war profiteers here, some of them are millionaires and billionaires now! And you have many others who became hardcore criminals after wars...

As always, innocent people are the ones who suffer most! People who don't have weapons and desire to fight and kill others!

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February 26, 2022, 08:39:49 AM
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This is typically profitable only for those who deal in weapons. Each and every one of us is in pain. Although it may appear that they have already obtained the land, a large number of people have died on it. As a result, no one will be victorious after the war. They are only wealthy because they manufacture the items required for war. As a result of the current situation, which affects people all over the world, hopes are high that peace talks will be successful; however, I believe this is an unrealistic expectation.
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In modern wars there are no real winners. In modern wars even the victors suffers by other means like loss of life and economically. In previous centuries the victors gained if the victory was a quick decisive and overwhelming victory. The only real gainers in modern wars are the parties that provides the weaponry as it keeps factories going and provides work.

There is an old cliché: War is not about who is right but who is left. War only leads to death and destruction.
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Other governments will benefit from it in terms of selling weapons or guns. But the result of the war will make things worse not just for the prople of Ukraine and Russia but also in terms of economic status of other countries like what is seen now in price decline of stocks and crypto. There’s no gain after all for many that are affected from this war that will result in disruption of their living and fear in their lives.
this is very correct for me in my opinion as well.

Because aside of journalist of course the one that can gained on these situation are those countries the selling expensive and high tech weapons. And surely after that war both country Russia and Ukraine will have an economic problem because of their expenses and some factors that can make their growth rate keep decreasing.. Win or lose both country cannot get benefits because of that war.
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February 26, 2022, 01:00:56 PM
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He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
Yes, your partner said at least he was right in that talk, meaning he knows the history of the war.

Which has additional economic and profit, is not a belligerent country, but a supporting country, they can sell combat equipment to the country they support, the journalist side is also profitable, the news that is uploaded can generate a good economy for them, their website, newspaper or magazine is selling well in the market, your partner has a point.

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February 26, 2022, 01:09:29 PM
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It is the governments that are into production of war equipments. When there happens a war, countries that are neutral without supporting any of the country will indirectly support war. In my view these countries indirectly supporting or staying neutral are the one to benefit out of war. Trade of war equipments is a big business, because every country used to spend major part of its budget into it.

Journalist and medias have news for some time period, apart they aren't gonna make big business out of it.
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February 26, 2022, 01:58:28 PM
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It is the governments that are into production of war equipments. When there happens a war, countries that are neutral without supporting any of the country will indirectly support war. In my view these countries indirectly supporting or staying neutral are the one to benefit out of war. Trade of war equipments is a big business, because every country used to spend major part of its budget into it.

Journalist and medias have news for some time period, apart they aren't gonna make big business out of it.

Your points are right, countries that will sell weapons will benefit from the war, also the journalists that are in neighbouring countries to will benefit from the war.  The war may also affect neighbouring countries that share boundaries with Russia and Ukraine because if war should happen citizens in this countries will shift to neighbouring countries and this will cause increase in population and if it is a country that do not have good economy it may cause some effect.

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February 26, 2022, 02:02:56 PM
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Nobody can have gains with wars on long run. Sometimes tyrants, mercenaries, black market dealers and sadistic people in general may think they are having some advantages through military conflicts, but just look what happened to these individuals previously through the world's story. It has never ended well for them. For a short period of time they achieve great deeds, profit and cause a lot of suffer and pain to their victims, but everything they cause to others, returns to themselves later. There is no gains on it at all. Greedy, egocentrism and wickedness always lead to ruin.
The bad thing about this is the fact that a lot of innocent people suffer because all these evil leaders, sadists, and tyrants.  There are indeed people who in this life don’t like to the peace and prosperity, they just prefer to see a world that is turned upside down.

I wish that the world would come together one day and start standing up against these bad leaders that we have, and start pushing for what they believe is right. If we keep on following these people and doing whatever they want, at the end they don’t really suffer much from it, although they do face the consequences later in life, but it takes a long time before it happens.

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When war happens both nations suffer it most. It's heartbreaking that we find ourselves in midst of bloodsucking and demonic leaders that don't value people's lives. No country that has experienced war remains the same both financial and otherwise.
The war between Russia and Ukraine should be taken to the sea, not on lands where lives and properties are destroyed.
All the ammunition Russia used are been produced in Russia, likely, they won't buy from any country. Ukraine is on the losing side cos the war is happening in their city. Ukraine are most likely to lose

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