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March 12, 2022, 04:18:04 PM
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Its obvious that weapon manufacturers are the one who gains a lot when there is a war since they are the suppliers of ammo and guns used in war. No one really gets benefits in war beside them, a lot of people loses a family member in a war, a country loses a lot of soldiers, and soldiers loses confidence.

War manufacturing is not worth than the lives of the innocent people. They can't just hope for the war so that their deadly weapon industry booms.
Personally, i would say that no one gains from war.

But the question here is who gain's from war? Obviously the weapon manufacturers because they are the one responsible for the weaponry of the military. Nations pay them for weapon supply for sure, without them maybe the weapons used in wars are still both axes and swords or spears. But I agree, people that is affected by this war will not gain anything.
I have to agree, the manufacturers of these armed weapons have gained from this war, and no one else. Both Ukraine and Russia have their own casualties. Deaths and damages of all infrastructures have become worst as the war continues. I just hope that this war will soon be stop because we can't afford to see lot of children losing their families, the nation will certainly be full of the cries of all victims.

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March 12, 2022, 09:08:26 PM
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I think that here those who win in the war are those who first provide weapons (their manufacture) and economic entities by nature, those who have the resources such as:

1.-Gas
2.-Oil
3.-Gasoline

  In this order, I think they will be the main winners, because it is obvious that all this will explode with a clear lack of almost a continent that will need these resources, and most of them have a high consumption of them, so I think that this war, like any war It will make rich many who have a monopoly or business model, which in this case are the nations with the greatest export capacity.
I think that every country already has a weapon in stock with them in preparation for a surprise attack so they might not need a new weapon from their supplier and for the gas and oil, it was said that Russia has a lot of them but Russia has been put into sanctions right now. They cant export these goods so making money and getting rich is not possible for them, same with other countries, they are also blocked from exporting their goods to Russia.

What some users said here was true that there is no real winner from wars. Aside from the two countries that are now damaged, the other countries are also affected but I think Russia won't care at all about this but they are happy that they did what they want.

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March 13, 2022, 05:11:34 AM
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I think that here those who win in the war are those who first provide weapons (their manufacture) and economic entities by nature, those who have the resources such as:

1.-Gas
2.-Oil
3.-Gasoline

  In this order, I think they will be the main winners, because it is obvious that all this will explode with a clear lack of almost a continent that will need these resources, and most of them have a high consumption of them, so I think that this war, like any war It will make rich many who have a monopoly or business model, which in this case are the nations with the greatest export capacity.
I think that every country already has a weapon in stock with them in preparation for a surprise attack so they might not need a new weapon from their supplier and for the gas and oil, it was said that Russia has a lot of them but Russia has been put into sanctions right now. They cant export these goods so making money and getting rich is not possible for them, same with other countries, they are also blocked from exporting their goods to Russia.

What some users said here was true that there is no real winner from wars. Aside from the two countries that are now damaged, the other countries are also affected but I think Russia won't care at all about this but they are happy that they did what they want.
Two countries that suffer now are no winner at all, people will be hunger and if this war will continue more lives

will be sacrifice, I just wish that both leaders will listen to the people who voted for them to take the higher sits, those
people are the one who really affected in the first place.

No way to say that someone wins aside from the pride that still running inside the brain of both leaders.
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March 13, 2022, 01:39:19 PM
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It is certain that during a war there will be very high inflation because production and stock are not normal, the most benefiting during a war is a country that has a supply of weapons, food and oil, of course the country closest to the conflicted country can control prices so that they benefit the most.



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March 13, 2022, 02:32:11 PM
Last edit: March 13, 2022, 04:08:58 PM by sarmrakib
 #145

First. We don't want war more .The civilians are surviving a lot and the bad things are that some of the countries are trying to get benefited from this war by selling weapons .The both countries who are in this war are loosing their fighter and many economical losses .We have seen Russia are on many prohibition on different sector .So its cost the m a lost on other hand Ukraine are loosing their everything .USA has prohibited the oil from Russia so that other countries who sell it trying to get the advantages from here .So there are many things we are really surviving for this happen .We just wanna peach and i think world leader should need to solve the issue for what its happening .

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March 14, 2022, 02:24:26 PM
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Two countries that suffer now are no winner at all, people will be hunger and if this war will continue more lives

will be sacrifice, I just wish that both leaders will listen to the people who voted for them to take the higher sits, those
people are the one who really affected in the first place.

No way to say that someone wins aside from the pride that still running inside the brain of both leaders.
It is not even just two nations neither. I mean Russia is suffering heavily right now and that is known, even if this war is over, Russia will keep on suffering, Ukraine did suffer a lot and will keep on suffering but nations will get together and help them rebuild whereas whatever was lost from Russia will not come back that easily.

However, west loses a lot too, between high oil prices, high wheat prices, high gas prices, that causes high inflation. We are going to see the west nations like Europe and the USA to suffer these as well. This is why I do not think that it is just two nations, almost everyone is getting suffrage because of it.
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March 15, 2022, 02:49:15 AM
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Primarily those who produces weapons, ammunitions, specialized and modern weapons and all those who produces military equipments from the very basic gear up to the most advanced weapon technology. Also those mainstream media and other financial firms that creates panic during the war that causes every market to be down, just like what happen today, including cryptocurrency.
Other than that, nothing else.
War is not a gain on someone, it is a loss for the whole humanity.
I hope this is not the start of the WWIII.

I agree that it is the owners and makers of the armaments who are the luckiest above all the growing pains, this condition was due to during the previous president's presidency.  He claims that only during his time Russia did not touch any country, so the sales of arms manufacturing companies declined.  There are opinions that say, this war is only part of the marketing of these weapons companies to sell their sales.
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March 15, 2022, 02:55:13 AM
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I think it all depends on what type of war we are talking about. There’s differences between every war. What the war is all about will of course determine who gains what or who gains the most. Sure it’s good for press and the news, and I’m sure it means more money for them. Same thing with weapons manufacturers. It said that were are in the year 2022 and still having to deal with nonsense like this. Smh

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March 16, 2022, 02:18:00 PM
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Two countries that suffer now are no winner at all, people will be hunger and if this war will continue more lives

will be sacrifice, I just wish that both leaders will listen to the people who voted for them to take the higher sits, those
people are the one who really affected in the first place.

No way to say that someone wins aside from the pride that still running inside the brain of both leaders.
It is not even just two nations neither. I mean Russia is suffering heavily right now and that is known, even if this war is over, Russia will keep on suffering, Ukraine did suffer a lot and will keep on suffering but nations will get together and help them rebuild whereas whatever was lost from Russia will not come back that easily.

However, west loses a lot too, between high oil prices, high wheat prices, high gas prices, that causes high inflation. We are going to see the west nations like Europe and the USA to suffer these as well. This is why I do not think that it is just two nations, almost everyone is getting suffrage because of it.

I get your point and there's no doubt that this war includes every nation around the world.

The implication is far wider, I just focus on a much bigger damage and that's two main concern countries,
Ukraine and Russia are heavily damage and with how things continue to move, still no update regarding
to any peace process between these two countries, hopefully a good mediator will go in between and let
the peace process starts as soon as possible.
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March 16, 2022, 08:26:58 PM
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Not the journalists, they're professionals although their industry is a big business that will surely gain. But I agree to Oasisman that it's the arms dealer and manufacturers that will be the majority at gain when it comes to war.

But with their gain, a lot of lives are lost and there will be more casualties and collateral damage that will happen. The world is monitoring this war between Ukraine and Russia. This should have been avoided if.....well. I just hope that no other countries will join as Putin has warned no country should join this.
It's certainly the armed manufacturers that are gaining every time a war happens. But i'm not seeing it as totally more of gains but rather a loss for everyone seeing this war has took thousands of lives and end up both countries damaging all its infrastructures leaving all the roads, buildings and even power supplies totally off. So i just hope this war will come to an end and that peace will take over.
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March 16, 2022, 09:44:24 PM
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Not the journalists, they're professionals although their industry is a big business that will surely gain. But I agree to Oasisman that it's the arms dealer and manufacturers that will be the majority at gain when it comes to war.

But with their gain, a lot of lives are lost and there will be more casualties and collateral damage that will happen. The world is monitoring this war between Ukraine and Russia. This should have been avoided if.....well. I just hope that no other countries will join as Putin has warned no country should join this.
It's certainly the armed manufacturers that are gaining every time a war happens. But i'm not seeing it as totally more of gains but rather a loss for everyone seeing this war has took thousands of lives and end up both countries damaging all its infrastructures leaving all the roads, buildings and even power supplies totally off. So i just hope this war will come to an end and that peace will take over.
Weapon Manufacturer
Real estate builders
etc.

Here's some good list of example: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/02/21/military-spending-defense-contractors-profiting-from-war-weapons-sales/39092315/

They saying that war is a business then it is actually true but in exchange of peoples lives which do really sucks or his terrible reality that we are living on.

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March 16, 2022, 09:58:37 PM
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I think it all depends on what type of war we are talking about. There’s differences between every war. What the war is all about will of course determine who gains what or who gains the most. Sure it’s good for press and the news, and I’m sure it means more money for them. Same thing with weapons manufacturers. It said that were are in the year 2022 and still having to deal with nonsense like this. Smh
Both that you've mentioned really benefits from the war and the other industries that are needed to make war, they're the ones who gain from this.
The world is problematic about the price of crude oil and that has been also one of the gainers from this war. Because of the war, the price of crude oil has skyrocketed. But there's good news for next week as the price in the world market recently decreased but it's not yet even half of what it had increased since the war started.

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March 16, 2022, 10:50:36 PM
 #153

Not the journalists, they're professionals although their industry is a big business that will surely gain. But I agree to Oasisman that it's the arms dealer and manufacturers that will be the majority at gain when it comes to war.

But with their gain, a lot of lives are lost and there will be more casualties and collateral damage that will happen. The world is monitoring this war between Ukraine and Russia. This should have been avoided if.....well. I just hope that no other countries will join as Putin has warned no country should join this.
It's certainly the armed manufacturers that are gaining every time a war happens. But i'm not seeing it as totally more of gains but rather a loss for everyone seeing this war has took thousands of lives and end up both countries damaging all its infrastructures leaving all the roads, buildings and even power supplies totally off. So i just hope this war will come to an end and that peace will take over.
Weapon Manufacturer
Real estate builders
etc.

Here's some good list of example: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/02/21/military-spending-defense-contractors-profiting-from-war-weapons-sales/39092315/

They saying that war is a business then it is actually true but in exchange of peoples lives which do really sucks or his terrible reality that we are living on.

It is sad that there are people who have no morality by profiting from war. Which war makes many people suffer, even to the point that many people
lose their lives due to war. Humans are actually scary creatures, being able to profit from war is something I don't think should happen. Why do
we gain profit but make others suffer. I think there should be a policy for weapon sales, weapons manufacturing factories should not sell to countries
that are about to attack other countries. Because I think weapons are used for self-defense, instead of being used to attack other people, let alone
to kill innocent people. No wonder why big countries like war, because there is big business behind it and it benefits some people.

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March 16, 2022, 11:00:54 PM
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Who gain's from War ?

The authorities in power, as it is always the people that suffers from it!
Most probably they are because they have been prepared for this before the war started. But its sad to see the people are suffering the consequences of their actions. A lot of lives have been put into danger because they put the law into their own hands. Sanctions are not enough. People have become homeless and lose their families and these authorities in power should pay for it.

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March 16, 2022, 11:16:08 PM
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Not the journalists, they're professionals although their industry is a big business that will surely gain. But I agree to Oasisman that it's the arms dealer and manufacturers that will be the majority at gain when it comes to war.

But with their gain, a lot of lives are lost and there will be more casualties and collateral damage that will happen. The world is monitoring this war between Ukraine and Russia. This should have been avoided if.....well. I just hope that no other countries will join as Putin has warned no country should join this.
It's certainly the armed manufacturers that are gaining every time a war happens. But i'm not seeing it as totally more of gains but rather a loss for everyone seeing this war has took thousands of lives and end up both countries damaging all its infrastructures leaving all the roads, buildings and even power supplies totally off. So i just hope this war will come to an end and that peace will take over.
Weapon Manufacturer
Real estate builders
etc.

Here's some good list of example: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/02/21/military-spending-defense-contractors-profiting-from-war-weapons-sales/39092315/

They saying that war is a business then it is actually true but in exchange of peoples lives which do really sucks or his terrible reality that we are living on.

It is sad that there are people who have no morality by profiting from war. Which war makes many people suffer, even to the point that many people
lose their lives due to war. Humans are actually scary creatures, being able to profit from war is something I don't think should happen. Why do
we gain profit but make others suffer. I think there should be a policy for weapon sales, weapons manufacturing factories should not sell to countries
that are about to attack other countries. Because I think weapons are used for self-defense, instead of being used to attack other people, let alone
to kill innocent people. No wonder why big countries like war, because there is big business behind it and it benefits some people.
No moral or ethics or something in related wouldnt really be that a problem as long they could make out some money or profits or revenue to it then that what surely counts. Business is business
even though it would shed out some blood not only a few but lots of innocent lives is on the line.Lets just face up the reality that there are people who do really
gains or make money out of these wars.
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March 18, 2022, 05:53:58 PM
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From the citizen's perspective, no one. Families ripped apart, economy takes a hit, and you essentially end up with destabilized countries that give way for power vacuums to form, which has been the case in the Middle East for years. On the other hand, the military industrial complex, rich private energy firms that might capitalise on new natural resources over any captured regions, all the rest, absolutely love going to war. The only profitable enterprises that gains from these wars are those that can get ahead of the game, meanwhile everyone else suffers.
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March 19, 2022, 04:52:28 PM
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A lot has been said about those who will gain and who, on the contrary, will lose from the war. I would like to say who will lose, but have thought they would win. Some large companies, such as Leroy Merlin, Burger King, Spar have not left the russian market, despite the fact that this is a manifestation of the position to which they are now actively paying attention. I think they were hoping to get a monopoly on the market, because most of their competitors stopped working there. However, it did not happen as expected. These companies are suffering huge losses, not only because the purchasing power of the russians themselves has fallen sharply, but also because people trying to stop visiting their affiliates in other countries. This is an example for reflection for those who want to profit from the war.

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Today, I think war for territory or resources may be rare. Now "third parties" have a huge influence on the development of events between countries, these are countries not directly involved in the conflict. But they have their own interest in fomenting war. It may be the weakening of countries. Or deliberately create a turbulent situation in order to do their own business and no one could see it and there was no way to control their activities

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March 19, 2022, 09:02:16 PM
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Primarily those who produces weapons, ammunitions, specialized and modern weapons and all those who produces military equipments from the very basic gear up to the most advanced weapon technology. Also those mainstream media and other financial firms that creates panic during the war that causes every market to be down, just like what happen today, including cryptocurrency.
Other than that, nothing else.
War is not a gain on someone, it is a loss for the whole humanity.
I hope this is not the start of the WWIII.

I agree that it is the owners and makers of the armaments who are the luckiest above all the growing pains, this condition was due to during the previous president's presidency.  He claims that only during his time Russia did not touch any country, so the sales of arms manufacturing companies declined.  There are opinions that say, this war is only part of the marketing of these weapons companies to sell their sales.
As I said before, here those who win first are the rulers, then those who will win the most are the countries that have a lot of oil and gas production, if we take into account that Europe can fall into total chaos due to the lack of gas and fuel. , is something that makes it an infallible necessity, the case of the USA that first looks for Venezuela and then Colombia goes and talks to Biden through its president, changes all the rules and makes negotiations with them when he had already talked about Venezuela, it is clearly that they are desperate, and that they do not mind turning to anyone to meet their needs.

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March 20, 2022, 02:01:06 PM
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Most probably they are because they have been prepared for this before the war started. But its sad to see the people are suffering the consequences of their actions. A lot of lives have been put into danger because they put the law into their own hands. Sanctions are not enough. People have become homeless and lose their families and these authorities in power should pay for it.
When there is war, those in power or the authorities would send their children out of the country and to a safer location where they wouldn’t be affected by the war. And they themselves will also be the location where the war will also not affect them.

It is usually the poor people that just goes in at their orders to fight against themselves and lose their lives for these elites. So, it never even affects those at the top. Their own is just to sit there and make orders, while the poor people die for the decision that they make and they do not care at all because they and their families are not the ones that are being affected by the war they start.
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