China's strategy on the Ukraine invasion war

[Mauser]

I don't think China will follow b.) remain neutral and just observe. Russia is an ally of China, and China has been in a currency war with USA for years now. So if they have the chance to weaken the west they will do so. First of all I would expect China to block any major resolutions against Russia in the UN. Another step for China could be to directly support Russian. Russian banks will be blocked from Swift and they have no more access to western refinancing markets. China could use this opportunity to give out loans to Russia at high interest rates. In the end China will follow the path that strengthen their own position and not what is best for humanity. This is also why USA doesn't want to get involved to deeply in Ukraine, because their main concern these days is China and not Russia anymore.

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[oHnK]

Zelensky promised to join Nato and EU before he became a president, that was literally the platform he ran on and people voted for him because they wanted to join EU as well, and that is how he became the president and this was during Trump, Biden wasn't even elected. Then Ukraine officially declared they want to join and only thing Biden could be guilty of would be saying they are fine with Ukraine joining and Russia should back off.

I confirm the condition of the President of Ukraine's alignment with NATO and the EU long before Biden became president, but you cannot deny that the close relationship between the President of Ukraine and Biden is related to an energy business.  Since Trump's time, he has asked the President of Ukraine to summon Biden's son regarding his business matters.  Is it possible that the political lobby always has us someone in office?  I do not condone Russia's actions, but Ukraine must be wise in responding to its country's geopolitical conditions, which indeed cannot ignore the existence of Russia with its strongest army, let alone being a compatriot.

[Haunebu]

This is also why USA doesn't want to get involved to deeply in Ukraine, because their main concern these days is China and not Russia anymore.

I disagree. You are over-estimating China and under-estimating Russia. US doesn't want to get involved just like many other countries because it could start WW3 which is detrimental to the entire world.

Putin already kept nukes on standby which goes to show that he isn't bothered about the fact that his actions could start WW3.

[Jemzx00]

This is also why USA doesn't want to get involved to deeply in Ukraine, because their main concern these days is China and not Russia anymore.

I disagree. You are over-estimating China and under-estimating Russia. US doesn't want to get involved just like many other countries because it could start WW3 which is detrimental to the entire world.

Putin already kept nukes on standby which goes to show that he isn't bothered about the fact that his actions could start WW3.

USA's main concern isn't China or Russia rather it's about the conflict that it will produce once they provided assistance to the latter. What do you think will happen once USA helps Ukraine at this time? Just as Haunebu said, it could trigger a much larger conflict such as World War III.
As long as, no other countries or government will be involved between the two countries, things will stay the same.

[tvplus006]

I don't think China will follow b.) remain neutral and just observe. Russia is an ally of China, and China has been in a currency war with USA for years now. So if they have the chance to weaken the west they will do so...

The Chinese government will watch from the sidelines as Russia economy weakens, thanks to the war and international sanctions. I think they will get some preferences, although I do not rule out that China will also join international sanctions in certain areas of the economy.

[Hiveonm]

After ten years of rapid development, China is no longer the China of the past, but many people do not know much about the China of today.
Neutrality is the philosophy that China has always adhered to. If others don't provoke me, I will not provoke others, but I am asking a question. If Ukraine defeats Russia, will China feel a sense of crisis?

[sana54210]

USA's main concern isn't China or Russia rather it's about the conflict that it will produce once they provided assistance to the latter. What do you think will happen once USA helps Ukraine at this time? Just as Haunebu said, it could trigger a much larger conflict such as World War III.
As long as, no other countries or government will be involved between the two countries, things will stay the same.

I do not think that it would trigger something like ww3 if they help with humanitarian stuff. Like if they send food and clothes and when the war is over maybe help with rebuilding and all of that? That wouldn't cause anything, it is the human thing to do and it is what Ukraine needs as well.

I mean sure Ukraine needs war planes and other stuff as well, giving them tanks and ammonization and armor and so forth would be lovely for them right now, but that doesn't mean that food and clothes and heating systems and energy and so forth is not wanted neither, they need everything they can right now and if USA supplied survival stuff then it would be fine. It is the defensive system stuff that would be risky.

[jhonjhon]

China has maintained good diplomatic relationship with both Russia and Ukraine. And both countries are big trading partner of China. I believe majority of people in China doesnt support war. So peace between the two countries is in China's best interest. At this moment the best solution for Russia and Ukraine to maintain negotation, and hopefully this war gonna end soon.

[mindrust]

China can and will trade with Russia freely and I am pretty damn positive NATO won't lift a finger against China. The problem is the west can't even afford to sanction China. Yes they half-ass sanctioned Russia (the west is still taking Russia's biggest export which is oil&gas) but they won't even do half of that to China.

People say the west is not doing enough against Russia, we will see what they will do when China invades Taiwan. I'll give you a hint. They will do nothing. Nothing. They will ignore China completely.

[Poker Player]

I, as soon as there is talk of a possible all-out war leading to nuclear cataclysm, believe that China somehow or other is not going to allow it. It is a few years away from surpassing the USA as the most powerful economy, I don't think it will allow everything to go to shit because of a crazy ally. That said, it can't control Putin 100 percent either. Some sources say China asked Russia to delay the invasion until after the Olympics and Putin paid no attention to them, although China has denied it.

In any case it is clear that Russia is an ally of China and USA, I wouldn't say that as of today it is an enemy but a competitor. I think it is in China's interest that the conflict does not escalate further, perhaps dividing Ukraine so that they can continue with their plans to take over half the world.

[sana54210]

I, as soon as there is talk of a possible all-out war leading to nuclear cataclysm, believe that China somehow or other is not going to allow it. It is a few years away from surpassing the USA as the most powerful economy, I don't think it will allow everything to go to shit because of a crazy ally. That said, it can't control Putin 100 percent either. Some sources say China asked Russia to delay the invasion until after the Olympics and Putin paid no attention to them, although China has denied it.

In any case it is clear that Russia is an ally of China and USA, I wouldn't say that as of today it is an enemy but a competitor. I think it is in China's interest that the conflict does not escalate further, perhaps dividing Ukraine so that they can continue with their plans to take over half the world.

That assumes that China and its leader is not as crazy as Putin but you are wrong. I mean just in the past decade, china has "attacked" Hong Kong for wanting freedom, attacked Taiwan for the same reason and if I did not hear wrong, they even had some arguments with India as well about a land too. So, China does exactly what we are seeing from Russia. China is further away from Europe so they are not doing it to European land. But they are still doing it in Asia.

If anyone understands what Putin is doing, that is Xi, because he does the same thing to his neighbors as well. Sure they would want economical warfare over real one, but Putin lost a ton of money to his people because of his decisions as well, so sometimes these crazy leaders do not care about economy and just attack to get what they want.

[Nora Olin]

Regarding events in Russia and Ukraine, it is no different from China and Taiwan. During the war between Russia and Ukraine, many major powers chose to sanction Russia. China remains neutral and chooses to continue trade with Russia, but wants the war to end as soon as possible. NATO doesn't really help Ukraine much.

[Roy Asher]

I remember an interview on an American TV show and the question was what is the best way to want world peace?
The host stood in front of the world map and threw the part that belonged to the United States in the trash.
The host is American...

[Maeve@]

How is China playing this?

a) Observing carefully as how the West is playing this crisis, how far they are willing to go when China invades Taiwan Russia invades Ukraine. How powerful is the response, how far is the West willing to go.

b) Keeping a distance from both sides, but not "the same distance" from both sides:

China criticized the Washington's response on Wednesday, saying the new US sanctions amounted to throwing "fuel on the fire" and were "irresponsible and immoral."

In a joint statement, Russia and China called on NATO to "ideologized approaches of the Cold War" and "respect the diversity of civilizational and cultural-historical patterns" in other countries.

As you can see, China is nothing but happy about this, as they are watching two potential enemies erode themselves and testing their strength. Lots of lessons will be learnt on the handling of this crisis and I would not say that Europe and Democracies are playing a great role in terms of intimidation, yet at least is managing to stay reasonably united.

China and Russia have always maintained close ties. The Chinese team is closely watching the war, but has no intention of participating in it. However, China's position is on Russia's side. Russia did not want to be shaken by NATO to its own country, so it took the initiative to resist.

[Savannah99]

According to Ukraine and Russia, you can think of China and Taiwan, Ukraine and Taiwan are all involved with the United States, but the battlefield is bloody after all, Russia is not provoking the war for no reason, but the various media I have seen are sanctioning what Russia has done. , there is no real solution to Russia's problems. Ukraine's entry into NATO has broken Russia's bottom line. Russia can only solve the problem in an uncivilized way.

[goldkingcoiner]

China is going to watch both sides and take every opportunity to make a profit, no matter how inhumane. China has never done anything out of morality, so I would not expect them to start shedding tears over dead ukrainian children. But then again, these notions of mine come from a historical view of what China has been doing the past years and how opportunistic their actions have been.

In fact, if Russia wins this war, they will be on the Russians side. If they lose, they probably will make it seem like they were against Russia the whole time.

No point in saying I do not trust China.

Hope I am wrong.

[Strongkored]

China will certainly take advantage of any situation, even though China is an ally of Russia but I'm sure there are many things that China wants to take advantage of in Ukraine, as long as this can help, of course it's normal. I hope the war ends soon so that it doesn't cause financial and economic crises in the future.

Or vice versa, China sees potential in Russia that will give him an advantage. Russia is already isolated from the world economy but they still need connections and China the answer, Sanctions for Russia benefits For China, and the most defeated of this war is Russia.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/russian-banks-turn-china-sidestep-cutoff-payments-systems

China has always played a big role and if Russia wins then the opportunity for China is greater to do the same to a country they consider an enemy.

[YOSHIE]

How is China playing this?

If I relate your words Chinese strategy with what was said by Former FBI: China is 'big winner' of Russia-Ukraine war, former FBI agent who worked in China warns, this is really annoying, again china is taking advantage of the suffering and economy of Russia and Ukraine.

Now I realize that behind the sanctions, the decline in the ruble and the war between Russia and Ukraine was planned by China, to overthrow the United States as the leader of the global economy, as the FBI says.

I can't understand why it is only now that America, including the world, is only now realizing what I have quoted below, what is it called, that politics is cruel.

Although European countries have joined the US in imposing tough sanctions on Russia amid the Ukraine war, they have largely saved Russia's energy industry from such economic wars, as most of Europe depends on Russia for energy.

Sadly, politics took its toll on both Russia and Ukraine, the FBI is only now revealing that behind all this is China, the worst disaster for Europe.

[AicecreaME]

China is an ally to Russia so basically, Russia is doing them the favor and is really just waiting for any signal to whatever they're up to. As for economic sanctions, Russia has already taken the consequence while if it's for China. I doubt it that the US and its allies can put sanction to China.
With the last news I've seen about China and Taiwan, China's airforce have been rotating on the sides of Taiwan and they're also likely to get on them at any moment.

Yes, it is really known that China and Russia are allies. Although it was denied by China and said they are not allies, but partners and they cleared the speculations about them getting involved saying it is unlikely to happen. However, China is said to be lurking and watching over Taiwan these past few days. I really do hope so that they won't stir another commotion because Russia's invasion is already too much to handle. China is definitely watching and observing from afar regarding the next moves they would do. From the looks of it, I'm betting they won't do anything that would negatively affect them as of the moment because they have seen how countries in most parts of the world given Russia a sanction. I just really wish leaders won't be as coward and greedy. It just becomes so chaotic whenever people aspire for more and more power when they have more than enough.

[qwertyup23]

Yea, not hard to understand China's brain. But hard to realize the role and when they will play on the field. So far China will never support those supported by the US. This is basic logic, which means China supports Russia. More importantly, China always looks from where they could take advantage and they just follow their own strategy. However, the war wasn't expected and seems Russians do not intend to leave Ukraine. The war will be more dangerous if the US interferes there. Let's hope to stop the war.

I had a discussion with someone who is affiliated in the politics in our country. He extensively explained that during the arbitration between China and the Philippines over the Spratly Islands, China was never considering on going to war, although they released and stationed their troops on the islands they "claimed" to be theirs. Like what happened between Vietnam and China, though the latter attempted to "claim" that some of the islands were theirs, the former started releasing soldiers against China in which the latter failed to retaliate.

Again, China will always be there on the backlines observing the spoils of war. They fully understand that almost every country needs them since they are this economic and labor powerhouse where almost 90% of our household things are made.