Russia's Stock Market Amidst War Against Ukraine

[Sterbens]

It's not good for us that we don't know exactly what the two countries are fighting for. We can only watch and hope it stops, no one knows how it will turn out until the stock market is carried away by the actions of both countries. This is a question of sovereignty and power that will never end if Ukraine and Russia continue to insist on taking the road of war. The path of peace was negotiated, but the young Ukrainian president was carried away mentally and always showed strength. Though the impact is on the people around the war zone. Not only that, the economy of the people living in the vicinity was also destroyed.

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[CaVO32]

War is terrible for people but inevitable when egos clash and people cannot come to the negotiating table. They also happen when a single person or entity holds too much power. (Like Putin). Despite all this, you cannot just fault the Russians for this. Throughout the world, countries have been constantly at war for political gains and geopolitical control. Nobody has done this more than the West.

My honest question is, what does it profit a country to rise up in war against another country?

Its never country versus country but just old men versus old men. In this case, its Putin versus Zelinsky, the Ukrainian head who had been actively wooing NATO to the chagrin of Russia. Now that things have reached to this end, Putin will do everything to get rid of him and get Ukraine back into the fold, atleast ideologically and away from Western influence. So even though there aren't any direct profits, countries just go to war over disagreements turning into ego clashes.

Putin doesn't want Ukraine to be part of NATO, so somewhat for me, it is more on ego here. Let Ukraine lead their own government. But Putin feels that they own Ukraine, thus, waging a war. No one gains from this war. A lot of casualties, civilians and innocent people will lose their lives. But I don't think Putin will spare those lives as he has another agenda. Maybe, one last time, he wants to show what kind of power he has. As we know, the past wars that he had been, he all won.

Stock market in both countries will collapse. And their people will be the ones affected. Hunger and other sufferings will come next if this will continue.

[TheNineClub]

The shot below is the current situation of Russia's stock market while the war against Ukraine is on.
My honest question is, what does it profit a country to rise up in war against another country?
To me, this and many other stuffs happening around confirms what the book of revelation says that during the end, brothers shall rise up in war against brothers, community against community, town against town, state against state and countries against countries.

Here is the shot I wish to share

Screenhshot Source: Telegram

There is a lot that official statistics and charts will not show when it comes to war profits. Long gone are the days of one country taking other countries' gold and jewels as spoils. Modern war profiteering is more in the nuances of weapon trading, commodities trading (oil, gas) that inevitably go up, military budgets that get increased, private security contracts, and future power balances that can, in the long run, make a profit. So there are still, unfortunately, a lot of economic reasons to go to war.

[South Park]

The shot below is the current situation of Russia's stock market while the war against Ukraine is on.
My honest question is, what does it profit a country to rise up in war against another country?

All the stock markets have been registering some losses as they adapt to the situation, however by far the one that was losing the most was the stock market of Russia as many sanctions are expected against banks, politicians and Russian companies, so it is natural that people are selling their stocks for very low prices and trying to get their money out of Russian banks as well, however most likely the Russian government knew about of this and think that despite all of this they can win something out of this war.

[teosanru]

The shot below is the current situation of Russia's stock market while the war against Ukraine is on.
My honest question is, what does it profit a country to rise up in war against another country?
To me, this and many other stuffs happening around confirms what the book of revelation says that during the end, brothers shall rise up in war against brothers, community against community, town against town, state against state and countries against countries.

Here is the shot I wish to share

Screenhshot Source: Telegram

All this is just temporary, Governments especially when it comes to war don't see Market outlook, they know markets work on the auto-correction mechanism, even if today they are slightly dumping once things settle it will definitely come back to normal, Governments are more concerned about economic outlook before declaring the war, the inflation in the economy, the growth rate that could be hampered, the loss of supply chains of essentials, etc. and dependency on the enemy country for trade, etc. These are the things that matter the more to the government. However, profitability, you are right is never the idea behind any war and can never be an idea behind the war.

[ajochems]

Rising up in war against brothers is a good point actually, I leave the war started for nothing and none will get profit out of this between these two counties who are directing participating this war. Stock markets will fall during this time especially the centralized markets in these two countries while I heard many people are trying to take cash from the banks in Ukraine and leave this country as soon as they can, while the government ordered the banks to do not give any cash to people(a Ukrainian friend of mine told me that.) also the other problem in Ukraine is about finding gas stations. All these bad situations will affect these two countries in the long term while other countries like China are taking benefit from it.

This fight is like a brothers fight.Even in the home,brother use to fight.Elder of the family will solve the issue between the brothers fight.So the developed country should had their words towards the fight.The current scenerio is Swedan had raised their voice against the fight and supported the Ukraine.Russia had huge words and suport,only the small brother need the support from the people of the world.Canada,America should made their statement against this fight.

[Hydrogen]

My honest question is, what does it profit a country to rise up in war against another country?

It seems to me that russia wants the land adjacent the capathian mountain range as a natural defensive perimeter. That would appear to be one tangible gain they're targeting.

Whether their ambitions run beyond that, I cannot guess. Russia has threatened to invade nearby states like finland and sweden who are not members of NATO in the past.

Stock markets rise and fall. In this case, I do not think it will negatively affect russia's economy which carries low percentage national debt. Russia's GDP is greater than $2 trillion with a deficit of around $400 billion. Debt to GDP ratio is around 20%, which is far far lower than most major nations of the world. Russia appears to be well structured to handle sanctions, war, a stock market crash and whatever else is thrown at them.

By contrast nations like japan and china appear to be buying up large swathes of land in foreign countries. Rather than war, that could be a better approach to global expansionism. Although I think russia itself would be barred and banned from attempting something similar.

[adaseb]

I looked into this and this really doesn’t affect Russia as much as you think. Most of the shares are owned by people outside of Russia, typically Americans. So they are the ones taking the brunt of the loses and not Russian population.

The fact that they closed the markets and banned short selling you can see why it fell close to 50%. I think on CNN or Bloomberg they said this was the worst stock market crash in any nation ever since the creation of the stock markets. And it was mostly due to poor liquidity and massive panic.

[Sithara007]

I looked into this and this really doesn’t affect Russia as much as you think. Most of the shares are owned by people outside of Russia, typically Americans. So they are the ones taking the brunt of the loses and not Russian population.

The fact that they closed the markets and banned short selling you can see why it fell close to 50%. I think on CNN or Bloomberg they said this was the worst stock market crash in any nation ever since the creation of the stock markets. And it was mostly due to poor liquidity and massive panic.

I don't think that the majority of the shares are owned by foreigners. It is the Russian federal government which owns a majority of the shares in the largest companies (Gazprom, Rosneft, Russian Railways, Inter RAO, Sberbank, Transneft, Rosatom, Tatneft.etc). So in the end, it is the Russian government which will find itself in a difficult situation, if the share prices go down. Now coming to the stock index, it rose by around 30% during Friday after the record crash on Thursday. But the long term perspective looks bleak.

[Obito]

We should expect something like that, it's not like the country with it's landmass is the one that aft kinv the cle i . I directed the othe tomak create tokens. Hopefully there's a card that can help me deal with those tokens to help me wipe them off the table. Hope that Ukraine will be able to defend in this perilous situation.

[el kaka22]

Obviously Russia will suffer for this. However, the problem is that Putin will not suffer because of it, Russians will but Putin will not. We have seen Russian people on the streets condemning the war even against a dictator, they know they will be jailed or killed and yet they still got out and protested the war. Because, they know that this war will only bring death and destruction and chaos to their nation as well.

So, the only reason for this war is Putin, nobody else, no other person is responsible for this, maybe some high ranked officials with Russia, or maybe some generals, but I am sure that even 90% of the soldiers would rather be at home right now.

[Strongkored]

The shot below is the current situation of Russia's stock market while the war against Ukraine is on.
My honest question is, what does it profit a country to rise up in war against another country?

The benefit is only on the leader who declares war to show his power and arrogance, unfortunately such a leader does not realize that his citizen also suffer not only the country he is fighting, his country will be very likely to experience bankruptcy and make his people suffer even more because there will be many investors who leave the country.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think profit from wars and winning a war is a long debated topic.

That's an understatement if I ever heard one. 

I'd expect Russia's stock market to plummet at the beginning of...whatever this is they're doing.  I would call it an invasion and I'm not sure what constitutes a war--but in any case, I think Putin isn't thinking about economics.  So far I haven't heard on any news sites any word about what he's thinking about, except for vague speculation about bringing Ukraine back into the fold.  What's to gain from doing that is beyond me.

There was just an announcement that Russia was going pro-bitcoin, and I kind of scratched my head when I read that since it came right when the pot was ready to boil over with respect to Putin's act of aggression.  Sometimes I think leaders of countries are pure psychopaths--maybe 1% aren't, and some of them don't behave like Putin or Saddam Hussein or Pol Pot, but there's a strong stink of psychopathy nonetheless.

[Reid]

It's all just boasting the recent power acquired. I see no big reason behind it. Another one is cutting the ties to form a group which could lead to a revolution someday. Yes, resources may also be a part of it but damn a country like Russia is big enough, I don't think they have depleted all the resources there.
It's just to say something to other countries using bombs and other destructive stuffs and for them to know they have the power to fight back now unlike before.

[Gyfts]

War's an investment in national security, not a profitable business enterprise. The investment is you hold power and secure safety for your citizens, and that you're willing to pay significant capital in order to maintain security. Russian stock market will continue to tumble with what ever sanctions the U.S. and EU decide to play on Russia, but Putin does not have that in mind. He views the west as a threat to Russia's existence and felt the need to invest in an invasion of Ukraine so that he wouldn't face as much geopolitical pressure from NATO. The only way we'd see if the investment was worth its cost is if Russia is successful in capturing Ukraine. Odds are in their favor.

[Lucius]

And because of Russia’s stock market drops, some of the billionaires there have most of their wealth wiped out in just one day.

Although it may seem like a lot of money to you, for the Russian elite it is almost insignificant - they are not naive and tied only to Russia, but have effective methods of hiding money through various tax havens and will continue to live as luxuriously as before. After the war, they will surely become even richer, and the highest price will, as always, be paid by the poor who go to war for the interests of their politics.

The Russians have been preparing for this since they occupied Crimea and eastern Ukraine, and sanctions will not harm them as some have hoped - at least not in the short term.

[marilynmanson21]

I don't think anyone will benefit if there is a war, where as we know there is war because of natural resources that we want to control,
And Ukraine has such long-term economic value that Putin wants to own it
here just hope that the war will end soon so that not many civilians die in vain

[gantez]

Hope that Ukraine will be able to defend in this perilous situation.

Russia is not being reasonable in attacking of Ukraine. No Ukraine won't be able to face the Russian military except intervention from other countries like US and that is very dangerous thing to happen. Russia has threatened to fight any country coming into this and making plans for retaliatory sanctions. The best is for this attacks to stop because there won't be gain but losses at the end.

[Odusko]

This war is a political power shown by a higher power word countries Russia vs Ukrain and both countries have to negotiate to defend/protect the sovereignty of the country and this crash in the stock market is expected after all war is a bad thing nothing can survive during wartime and the sharp drop in the price of many stocks is as a result of limited liquidation which leads to non-resistance, with hope things may return to normal but. until then the panic sell-off will continue.

[timerland]

What's on Putin's mind is far more than monetary outcomes.

But yeah, it does seem like a huge hit on the regular citizens of Russia. Most of the sanctions are going to be hitting hard on the citizens as opposed to high ranking government officials or the oligarchs. The citizens will be the ones left holding the bag, unable to transact with the rest of the world, being censored etc.

Makes me wonder though if these Russian stocks would be worth a buy at some stage as a value bet?