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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7  (Read 3061 times)
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March 02, 2022, 09:57:22 PM
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He did fight at this weight class before, betting Kovalev and win the belt (WBO).

So he is familiar with how to make the weight, no problem for him. As for the size advantage, I don't think that Bivol has one, Canelo is known to punished boxers who is taller than him so that negate everyone who thins that their height will be be a problem for him. Bivol is a strong puncher if you look at his record, but Canelo can take anyone at 168 to 175 lbs because his chin is solid.

Team Canelo took that Kovalev fight because they saw that he was the weakest on the light heavyweight division at that time and after they won they did not defend the belt instead they move down so i think this Bivol fight will be an acid test for Canelo as the former is a strong puncher and would be much bigger than him.

If this will push through, will this be still a championship fight?

Have read that WBA won't sanction because of Bivol being a Russian.

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March 02, 2022, 11:32:24 PM
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Have read that WBA won't sanction because of Bivol being a Russian.

If that's the case then it seems the first fight of Canelo in his moving up journey will be just an ordinary fight since no title will be at stake. In other words, a waste of time on his followed timeline of future opponents and the only good reward he will get on his fight is the big money. If only they anticipate, which seems impossible, Canelo's camp can instead shift gears and fight another boxer.

Well, since it's about a couple of months to go there might be changes and possibly, will sanction as a title fight, where it supposed to be.

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March 03, 2022, 02:30:38 AM
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Here are the boxing records of these fighters.
At first glance, I notice that this Russian boxer Dmitry Bivol is really an underdog when it comes to the records. But if you take a look at his records, undefeated, which is for me, this is his only ace for this fight compared to the Mexican boxer.
Another thing is the reach and height of Dmitry Bivol is also an advantage. This is really exciting match for me.

I don't go for records I go for who he fought and how good he is offensively and defensively, he is good on his offense but lacks good defense and this is going to be big loopholes, Canelo will just exploit the loopholes just like what he did to Plant, what I like about Canelo is he is very methodical he is not in a hurry and frustrates his opponent until they give in, some of the fighters Canelo fought are ahead in the scoring until they couldn't stand Canelo's attack

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March 03, 2022, 07:19:59 AM
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If this will push through, will this be still a championship fight?

Have read that WBA won't sanction because of Bivol being a Russian.

I also heard about that yesterday but WBA haven't released any updates about that yet. Today, WBA and the sanctioning bodies have answered about this issue and said that this fight won't be sanctioned anymore together with other Russian athletes as the Russia still continues their bloody invasion in Ukraine. Meanwhile, in other sports and sports organizations are banning Russian Athletes from participating any games.

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Meanwhile, boxing’s four sanctioning bodies have united to not sanction any bouts in Russia while the groups’ leaders mull what to do with fighters like Bivol on a case-by-case basis.

Russian fighters will not be allowed to wear their flag on their fight clothing, the WBA decided earlier this week. The Russian national anthem also cannot be played before fights and contenders

Source: https://www.usatodaysportsplus.com/story/boxing/2022/03/02/canelo-alvarez-vs-dmitry-bivol-sanctions-impact-title-fight/9351468002/

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March 03, 2022, 12:51:04 PM
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Yes, every Russian athletes have been affected by the war between the two countries.

So there is a chance that this fight won't happen unless the war is over. So we will see how everything will turn out, of course we wanted to see this fight, it's surely a very interesting one specially that Canelo will fight an unbeaten Russian fighter. But it is what it is, if the governing body is not going to sanction this, then  the fight won't simply happen.
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March 03, 2022, 01:01:31 PM
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Yes, every Russian athletes have been affected by the war between the two countries.

So there is a chance that this fight won't happen unless the war is over. So we will see how everything will turn out, of course we wanted to see this fight, it's surely a very interesting one specially that Canelo will fight an unbeaten Russian fighter. But it is what it is, if the governing body is not going to sanction this, then  the fight won't simply happen.
US said they are not against the Russian people but only against Putin, so I don't see any reason to blame other people and to treat them like they are the one who started the war, so let's hope this fight will push through because Canelo is already all set for this trilogy and the contract is too huge, he can't afford to lose on this one.

Bivol is a good boxer, but I still see Canelo has the advantage here and might take the bell, this is just 2 months away, let's see if they are going to treat Bivol as a boxer and not as Russian who many people already throw hate to ordinary Russians.
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March 03, 2022, 03:01:05 PM
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Have read that WBA won't sanction because of Bivol being a Russian.

If that's the case then it seems the first fight of Canelo in his moving up journey will be just an ordinary fight since no title will be at stake. In other words, a waste of time on his followed timeline of future opponents and the only good reward he will get on his fight is the big money. If only they anticipate, which seems impossible, Canelo's camp can instead shift gears and fight another boxer.

Well, since it's about a couple of months to go there might be changes and possibly, will sanction as a title fight, where it supposed to be.

We never know what will happen if there're changes that will take place, but fans are excited to see Canelo inside the ring after deciding to jump up to this new division, a great challenged since Bivol is known as also a powerful fighter, though it's all depends to how things will develop between this two camps, if they choose to proceed or there's change in plan,

the only thing we have for now is to wait with any information regarding to this upcoming fight.

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March 03, 2022, 03:45:17 PM
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Yes, every Russian athletes have been affected by the war between the two countries.

So there is a chance that this fight won't happen unless the war is over. So we will see how everything will turn out, of course we wanted to see this fight, it's surely a very interesting one specially that Canelo will fight an unbeaten Russian fighter. But it is what it is, if the governing body is not going to sanction this, then  the fight won't simply happen.

Some Russian athletes are appealing to the governing bodies and said that this is sports and not a politics but as of now they don't have any choice but to wait for some updates regarding this matter. Hence, this decision is a retaliation towards Russia's invasion and for Vladimir Putin.
About this fight, they still have a month or so to wait but if ever this issue won't be resolved soon then I guess this fight won't happen because surely neither of them wants an unsanctioned fight.

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March 03, 2022, 05:33:54 PM
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We never know what will happen if there're changes that will take place, but fans are excited to see Canelo inside the ring after deciding to jump up to this new division, a great challenged since Bivol is known as also a powerful fighter, though it's all depends to how things will develop between this two camps, if they choose to proceed or there's change in plan,

the only thing we have for now is to wait with any information regarding to this upcoming fight.

Well I guess as long as the sports industry well not be affected by the politics industry I don't think so there will be a hindrance on the upcoming fight between Canelo vs. Bivol. I just hope that both leaders of these two countries Russia and US will not going to end up on a decision like preventing their people from this kind of socialization, yes they are a citizen but their people have the rights to do and decision what's best for them. Well, as you have also said mate, let's wait for further announcement because I am also excited to see Canelo again inside the ring.
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We never know what will happen if there're changes that will take place, but fans are excited to see Canelo inside the ring after deciding to jump up to this new division, a great challenged since Bivol is known as also a powerful fighter, though it's all depends to how things will develop between this two camps, if they choose to proceed or there's change in plan,

the only thing we have for now is to wait with any information regarding to this upcoming fight.

Well I guess as long as the sports industry well not be affected by the politics industry I don't think so there will be a hindrance on the upcoming fight between Canelo vs. Bivol. I just hope that both leaders of these two countries Russia and US will not going to end up on a decision like preventing their people from this kind of socialization, yes they are a citizen but their people have the rights to do and decision what's best for them. Well, as you have also said mate, let's wait for further announcement because I am also excited to see Canelo again inside the ring.
I wont be surprised if there would be some changes in related with that Russian issues as of this moment yet other industries does really have some sort of problems into something like this which i could say that it is a bit

already not ethical to do so just because of their nationality on which it does affect their current careers or activities but lets hope that it wont really get that far and its true that we are longing to see Canelo in the ring

once again and just like on what others been saying about Bivol then this one is a tough and good fighter which still considerable to have some good match up.

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March 04, 2022, 12:14:03 AM
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8-0 in favor of Canelo, it seems like no one believes that Canelo will lose in this fight.

I honestly don't hear the name of his opponent,  I think he is not popular, so I guess Canelo's chance to win here is very high. I read some comments in this thread and the other that after this fight if Canelo wins, he has a chance to face GGG which is a mega fight, so I would follow this fight as I love to witness a trilogy of the two huge names in boxing.

The poll here is just a reference. When you take that poll outside this forum, Canelo is still favored but Bivol should also have great votes.

Canelo is just more popular but you are wrong that Bivol is not. He is also popular and to clear things here, Canelo is the one considered to fight him and not the other way round. It means Canelo is the one who challenges Bivol.

Everyone wants a trilogy with GGG and that's for sure the most reason why people like to see Canelo win here.

In this fight it is not difficult to make the prediction, for many the best is Canelo and clearly as you say, everyone is waiting for GGG and him, but since this has become a business model where only the strongest managers of them they concentrate on making money, they want to do these events to give more spectacle, I have not yet gotten into the statistics for this fight, since I see boxing as a sport not only of contact but that handles a lot of intelligence, but seeing So much adrenaline here, that if Canelo I don't think this match will be very complicated for him.

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March 04, 2022, 06:48:30 AM
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Yes, every Russian athletes have been affected by the war between the two countries.

So there is a chance that this fight won't happen unless the war is over. So we will see how everything will turn out, of course we wanted to see this fight, it's surely a very interesting one specially that Canelo will fight an unbeaten Russian fighter. But it is what it is, if the governing body is not going to sanction this, then  the fight won't simply happen.
US said they are not against the Russian people but only against Putin, so I don't see any reason to blame other people and to treat them like they are the one who started the war, so let's hope this fight will push through because Canelo is already all set for this trilogy and the contract is too huge, he can't afford to lose on this one.

Bivol is a good boxer, but I still see Canelo has the advantage here and might take the bell, this is just 2 months away, let's see if they are going to treat Bivol as a boxer and not as Russian who many people already throw hate to ordinary Russians.

Yet the sports industry are banning these Russian athletes to participate their respective sports, same as this fight, the news is that WBO will not sanction this fight. So I guess this won't be a championship fight anymore if Canelo and Bivol will continue the fight. Anyway, we are still on the month of March and the scheduled fight will be on the month of May, so there could still be some changes along the way.

I'm still rooting for this fight to continue and hopefully it will be sanctioned by the governing bodies, so that after this we can also watch Canelo vs GGG.

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March 04, 2022, 08:56:25 AM
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Yes, every Russian athletes have been affected by the war between the two countries.

So there is a chance that this fight won't happen unless the war is over. So we will see how everything will turn out, of course we wanted to see this fight, it's surely a very interesting one specially that Canelo will fight an unbeaten Russian fighter. But it is what it is, if the governing body is not going to sanction this, then  the fight won't simply happen.

Some Russian athletes are appealing to the governing bodies and said that this is sports and not a politics but as of now they don't have any choice but to wait for some updates regarding this matter. Hence, this decision is a retaliation towards Russia's invasion and for Vladimir Putin.
About this fight, they still have a month or so to wait but if ever this issue won't be resolved soon then I guess this fight won't happen because surely neither of them wants an unsanctioned fight.

Still good though if athletes are going to appeal their case to the governing bodies and see how it goes. And hopefully Bivol can be given exception so that he can fight one of the biggest on his career in the next couple of months. It' just sad that the invasion really affected the whole sports but for sure logic will dictate that those Russian athlete should suffer from what their President did aainst Ukraine.

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March 04, 2022, 08:59:35 AM
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Yes, every Russian athletes have been affected by the war between the two countries.

So there is a chance that this fight won't happen unless the war is over. So we will see how everything will turn out, of course we wanted to see this fight, it's surely a very interesting one specially that Canelo will fight an unbeaten Russian fighter. But it is what it is, if the governing body is not going to sanction this, then  the fight won't simply happen.

Some Russian athletes are appealing to the governing bodies and said that this is sports and not a politics but as of now they don't have any choice but to wait for some updates regarding this matter. Hence, this decision is a retaliation towards Russia's invasion and for Vladimir Putin.
About this fight, they still have a month or so to wait but if ever this issue won't be resolved soon then I guess this fight won't happen because surely neither of them wants an unsanctioned fight.

Still good though if athletes are going to appeal their case to the governing bodies and see how it goes. And hopefully Bivol can be given exception so that he can fight one of the biggest on his career in the next couple of months. It' just sad that the invasion really affected the whole sports but for sure logic will dictate that those Russian athlete should suffer from what their President did aainst Ukraine.
Yes, we will have to see, most of the time governing bodies shows solidarity and not just in boxing, but in all other sports, they are putting a hammer ban athletes of Russian heritage.

So this case is like threading a needle for Bivol, of course we understand that the acts of their President doesn't constitute agreement of their population, but it already happen and this is what the sporting worlds reaction.

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March 04, 2022, 11:25:28 AM
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Yes, every Russian athletes have been affected by the war between the two countries.

So there is a chance that this fight won't happen unless the war is over. So we will see how everything will turn out, of course we wanted to see this fight, it's surely a very interesting one specially that Canelo will fight an unbeaten Russian fighter. But it is what it is, if the governing body is not going to sanction this, then  the fight won't simply happen.
US said they are not against the Russian people but only against Putin, so I don't see any reason to blame other people and to treat them like they are the one who started the war, so let's hope this fight will push through because Canelo is already all set for this trilogy and the contract is too huge, he can't afford to lose on this one.

But as you can see there are a lot of sporting events that have been affected by the war itself:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388064.0

It's not my opinion, it's the whole world reacting to Putin and his war.

Bivol is a good boxer, but I still see Canelo has the advantage here and might take the bell, this is just 2 months away, let's see if they are going to treat Bivol as a boxer and not as Russian who many people already throw hate to ordinary Russians.

True, Bivol is a good boxer, but he doesn't have head movement and for sure Canelo knows this and will take advantage in the middle round and become aggressive and maybe go for a KO win.
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March 04, 2022, 01:07:35 PM
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Canelo is the one who has advantage on this coming match versus Bivol in my opinion. Other than his experience in boxing which is more than Bivol, Canelo is a power punching with his impressive footwork and traps that lure his opponent to enter his reach and then Canelo would deliver the combinations with counterpunch as a knockout move if delivered good in his opponent.
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March 04, 2022, 01:30:22 PM
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Here is the statement from the 4 governing bodies of boxing:

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The four governing organizations responsible for overseeing boxing title matchups around the world -- the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO -- announced in a joint statement that they won't sanction any such bouts in Russia because of the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33381629/boxing-governing-organizations-sanction-title-bouts-russia-due-invasion-ukraine

So it clearly states that any fight in Russia will be sanction. It didn't mention about Russian fighters not able to fight outside of Russia. So I think this is still a go fight in May 7.

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Here is the statement from the 4 governing bodies of boxing:

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The four governing organizations responsible for overseeing boxing title matchups around the world -- the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO -- announced in a joint statement that they won't sanction any such bouts in Russia because of the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33381629/boxing-governing-organizations-sanction-title-bouts-russia-due-invasion-ukraine

So it clearly states that any fight in Russia will be sanction. It didn't mention about Russian fighters not able to fight outside of Russia. So I think this is still a go fight in May 7.

I hope there's no hindrance to this big fight, we are just speculating now but you have a point and I agree with you. The fight will not take place in Russia, it will be outside the country so the fight has to be realized. We have been waiting for this patiently and we don't want to be disappointed anymore.

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March 04, 2022, 01:55:12 PM
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Canelo is the one who has advantage on this coming match versus Bivol in my opinion. Other than his experience in boxing which is more than Bivol, Canelo is a power punching with his impressive footwork and traps that lure his opponent to enter his reach and then Canelo would deliver the combinations with counterpunch as a knockout move if delivered good in his opponent.

Bivol is indeed a pretty good boxer, moreover he is now the king of light heavyweight since 2017 and I think his experience in boxing of course can't be doubted, even so Alvarez is also a boxer who has quite good technique in defending and attacking. But the problem now is whether the fight will be carried out?
Because as far as I know Bivol is a boxer from Russia, whereas nowadays many Russian athletes are banned from participating in many sports due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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March 04, 2022, 02:53:35 PM
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Here is the statement from the 4 governing bodies of boxing:

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The four governing organizations responsible for overseeing boxing title matchups around the world -- the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO -- announced in a joint statement that they won't sanction any such bouts in Russia because of the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33381629/boxing-governing-organizations-sanction-title-bouts-russia-due-invasion-ukraine

So it clearly states that any fight in Russia will be sanction. It didn't mention about Russian fighters not able to fight outside of Russia. So I think this is still a go fight in May 7.

You mean any fight in Russia will not be sanctioned.
I surely hopes so, if that is the case then why Dmitry Bivol is heavily affected together with Artur Beterbiev who is also set to fight Joe Smith Jr. in New York? As I read the article it also says that any major and minor title isn't exempted in this issue.
The governing bodies should consider for the fights that have been scheduled first before their statement was released.

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