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March 05, 2022, 02:59:24 AM
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Here is the statement from the 4 governing bodies of boxing:

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The four governing organizations responsible for overseeing boxing title matchups around the world -- the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO -- announced in a joint statement that they won't sanction any such bouts in Russia because of the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33381629/boxing-governing-organizations-sanction-title-bouts-russia-due-invasion-ukraine

So it clearly states that any fight in Russia will be sanction. It didn't mention about Russian fighters not able to fight outside of Russia. So I think this is still a go fight in May 7.

I hope there's no hindrance to this big fight, we are just speculating now but you have a point and I agree with you. The fight will not take place in Russia, it will be outside the country so the fight has to be realized. We have been waiting for this patiently and we don't want to be disappointed anymore.

This war really f**k up everything, and just like Covid-19 everyone seems to be affected by it.

And all we can do is wait and hopefully this fight is going to happen in May. And it will be US soil so it should be sanction by the boxing bodies. And this is a Canelo that we are talking the cash cow of boxing so for sure they are considering the fight to happen as plan in the US this May.

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March 06, 2022, 11:49:44 AM
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Here is the statement from the 4 governing bodies of boxing:

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The four governing organizations responsible for overseeing boxing title matchups around the world -- the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO -- announced in a joint statement that they won't sanction any such bouts in Russia because of the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33381629/boxing-governing-organizations-sanction-title-bouts-russia-due-invasion-ukraine

So it clearly states that any fight in Russia will be sanction. It didn't mention about Russian fighters not able to fight outside of Russia. So I think this is still a go fight in May 7.

I hope there's no hindrance to this big fight, we are just speculating now but you have a point and I agree with you. The fight will not take place in Russia, it will be outside the country so the fight has to be realized. We have been waiting for this patiently and we don't want to be disappointed anymore.

This war really f**k up everything, and just like Covid-19 everyone seems to be affected by it.

If we can just stay aside our difference and being biased, for sure this fight can still happen.

And all we can do is wait and hopefully this fight is going to happen in May. And it will be US soil so it should be sanction by the boxing bodies. And this is a Canelo that we are talking the cash cow of boxing so for sure they are considering the fight to happen as plan in the US this May.

As you have said, this is business, the money being involved in this fight is huge specially for Canelo. And perhaps someone can pull the string to make this fight in the US. I think this is just another hindrance, but knowing the personalities involved, this fight will push through as per schedule.
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March 06, 2022, 02:03:34 PM
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This war really f**k up everything, and just like Covid-19 everyone seems to be affected by it.

And all we can do is wait and hopefully this fight is going to happen in May. And it will be US soil so it should be sanction by the boxing bodies. And this is a Canelo that we are talking the cash cow of boxing so for sure they are considering the fight to happen as plan in the US this May.

The world is just starting out to heal from the pandemic but then there it is again the war between Russia and Ukraine that cause losses of properties and lives again in the affected area. As much as we wanted to see Canelo and Dmitry inside the ring trying to defend or winning the title belt but then yeah all we can do is wait for the final announcements and hopefully the fight may take place on the scheduled date without any hindrances like because of the conflicts of the countries like political conflicts because sports are not covered by the political aspects.
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March 06, 2022, 03:58:57 PM
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I'm interested in the 2nd part, a GGG vs Canelo Trilogy if he wins this fight.

Well, in terms of chances, I guess GGG and Canelo has a high chance of beating their respective opponent, so the fight that is almost impossible is going to happen soon, hopefully this year.

That's what I'm excited about as well. I would love to see GGG and Canelo in one ring. Canelo still has to do his best on this match so he could surely move forward with his fight with GGG. That will be a tough match so Canelo must be ready not just with his match with Bivol but also with his possible match if he'll win this fight. I hope he wouldn't feel too pressured but rather motivated.
Without a doubt that is the match that everyone is waiting for and I do not have any doubts now that we are going to see it, the only doubt that I have is the physical shape in which GGG will get to that fight, after all due to the pandemic his fight with Murata has been delayed and as we know he is not a youngster anymore, and every month that he is spending without boxing it is just another month wasted for him.
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March 06, 2022, 04:20:16 PM
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And all we can do is wait and hopefully this fight is going to happen in May. And it will be US soil so it should be sanction by the boxing bodies. And this is a Canelo that we are talking the cash cow of boxing so for sure they are considering the fight to happen as plan in the US this May.
As you have said, this is business, the money being involved in this fight is huge specially for Canelo. And perhaps someone can pull the string to make this fight in the US. I think this is just another hindrance, but knowing the personalities involved, this fight will push through as per schedule.

Yes, there is still a lot of time as this fight is scheduled on the month of May and I'm also quite sure that both camps and other boxers are appealing to the bodies somehow give some special case on them and maybe the fight in the North will cease even before this fight. Also these fights has been agreed and pursued even before the Russia invades Ukraine so I guess they will give some exception about this one.

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March 06, 2022, 04:22:48 PM
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I'm interested in the 2nd part, a GGG vs Canelo Trilogy if he wins this fight.

Well, in terms of chances, I guess GGG and Canelo has a high chance of beating their respective opponent, so the fight that is almost impossible is going to happen soon, hopefully this year.

That's what I'm excited about as well. I would love to see GGG and Canelo in one ring. Canelo still has to do his best on this match so he could surely move forward with his fight with GGG. That will be a tough match so Canelo must be ready not just with his match with Bivol but also with his possible match if he'll win this fight. I hope he wouldn't feel too pressured but rather motivated.
Without a doubt that is the match that everyone is waiting for and I do not have any doubts now that we are going to see it, the only doubt that I have is the physical shape in which GGG will get to that fight, after all due to the pandemic his fight with Murata has been delayed and as we know he is not a youngster anymore, and every month that he is spending without boxing it is just another month wasted for him.

GGG vs Murata is where we can possibly see if GGG still has it. It's still not set of course so Alvarez vs GGG might not happen when the old man can not make an impression. The delay I think is good so there will be long months for preparation.

Don't you think that whenever there is an upset to the fight of Canelo against Bivol, Canelo will eventually fight GGG instead and cancel Murata fight?
Just to give the GGG the chance to settle what was left.


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March 06, 2022, 06:40:05 PM
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This war really f**k up everything, and just like Covid-19 everyone seems to be affected by it.

This is much worse than covid 19. Covid wasn't really threatening people who are fit, like boxers. If they were rescheduling fights it was only due to stupid government restrictions, restrictions that people around the world were protesting against. Canada is a good example of that.
In this case young, fit people who survived covid and would live for decades are being murdered over nothing. Relly there's nothing to win from this stupid war. It only brings destruction and in the end both countries involved will lose.

I'd love the fight to happen, but I fully support the decision of making it happen outside Russia. People wouldn't be able to go there anyway because it's a no fly zone.

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This is much worse than covid 19. Covid wasn't really threatening people who are fit, like boxers. If they were rescheduling fights it was only due to stupid government restrictions, restrictions that people around the world were protesting against. Canada is a good example of that.
In this case young, fit people who survived covid and would live for decades are being murdered over nothing. Relly there's nothing to win from this stupid war. It only brings destruction and in the end both countries involved will lose.
I am also not supporting the war but to built a narrative that players and athletes from participate in competitions is not the way we should move forward as they have no voice over the war and they cannot prevent the war even if they wanted to make a difference. There is protest even in Russia to stop the war and i am expecting the match up between Canelo Alvarez and Dmitry Bivol will carry on as proposed.
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This is much worse than covid 19. Covid wasn't really threatening people who are fit, like boxers. If they were rescheduling fights it was only due to stupid government restrictions, restrictions that people around the world were protesting against. Canada is a good example of that.
In this case young, fit people who survived covid and would live for decades are being murdered over nothing. Relly there's nothing to win from this stupid war. It only brings destruction and in the end both countries involved will lose.
I am also not supporting the war but to built a narrative that players and athletes from participate in competitions is not the way we should move forward as they have no voice over the war and they cannot prevent the war even if they wanted to make a difference. There is protest even in Russia to stop the war and i am expecting the match up between Canelo Alvarez and Dmitry Bivol will carry on as proposed.

Sanctioning everyone could not be the best solution to stop the war, so I'm also hopeful that the fight will push through based on a schedule. The government made its own decision and I'm pretty sure no citizen would choose war over a diplomatic approach as we all want to make peace, not war.

Let's not worry about this fight, let's stay optimistic that no hindrance will stop this from happening.

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March 06, 2022, 08:52:40 PM
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Fighting Canelo is like winning the lottery, similar to what Pacquiao is before, that's why many fighters wanted to have the opportunity not only to fight but have a good pay check as well.

Everyone can intimidated his opponent, but if you don't have the tools then your opponent will just laugh at you. So you also have to back it up and I'm sure Bivol is not going to be intimidated here because he know that he has a puncher's chance.
Without a doubt Bivol has the opportunity of a lifetime, originally Canelo was supposed to move to the cruiserweight division, however there were a lot of issues about who was supposed to be his next opponent.

So it seems that at least for the time being Canelo is not going to move to the cruiserweight division and instead he will fight on the light heavyweight division, even if Bivol losses not only he will get a huge sum of money, sooner or later he will have another shot at winning another belt, and if he happens to win then the rematch would be epic, so no matter what happens Bivol will win a lot with this fight.
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March 06, 2022, 09:28:18 PM
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Fighting Canelo is like winning the lottery, similar to what Pacquiao is before, that's why many fighters wanted to have the opportunity not only to fight but have a good pay check as well.

Everyone can intimidated his opponent, but if you don't have the tools then your opponent will just laugh at you. So you also have to back it up and I'm sure Bivol is not going to be intimidated here because he know that he has a puncher's chance.
Without a doubt Bivol has the opportunity of a lifetime, originally Canelo was supposed to move to the cruiserweight division, however there were a lot of issues about who was supposed to be his next opponent.

So it seems that at least for the time being Canelo is not going to move to the cruiserweight division and instead he will fight on the light heavyweight division, even if Bivol losses not only he will get a huge sum of money, sooner or later he will have another shot at winning another belt, and if he happens to win then the rematch would be epic, so no matter what happens Bivol will win a lot with this fight.

but for canelo's camp, don't get too confident because in the recent boxing matches, we have seen upsets. i am confident with canelo's power here but you'll never know once inside the ring. he has to be prepared and his opponent knows his the underdog with about 3.75 odds on him, whereas, canelo is at 1.25, which clearly shows that bookies will favour canelo on this match.
for bivol, it will be a challenge for him, so he won't go inside the ring unprepared. but no matter what, both will have fat pockets afterwards.

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March 06, 2022, 09:53:16 PM
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Fighting Canelo is like winning the lottery, similar to what Pacquiao is before, that's why many fighters wanted to have the opportunity not only to fight but have a good pay check as well.

Everyone can intimidated his opponent, but if you don't have the tools then your opponent will just laugh at you. So you also have to back it up and I'm sure Bivol is not going to be intimidated here because he know that he has a puncher's chance.
Without a doubt Bivol has the opportunity of a lifetime, originally Canelo was supposed to move to the cruiserweight division, however there were a lot of issues about who was supposed to be his next opponent.

So it seems that at least for the time being Canelo is not going to move to the cruiserweight division and instead he will fight on the light heavyweight division, even if Bivol losses not only he will get a huge sum of money, sooner or later he will have another shot at winning another belt, and if he happens to win then the rematch would be epic, so no matter what happens Bivol will win a lot with this fight.

but for canelo's camp, don't get too confident because in the recent boxing matches, we have seen upsets. i am confident with canelo's power here but you'll never know once inside the ring. he has to be prepared and his opponent knows his the underdog with about 3.75 odds on him, whereas, canelo is at 1.25, which clearly shows that bookies will favour canelo on this match.
for bivol, it will be a challenge for him, so he won't go inside the ring unprepared.
Exactly, no boxer would come unprepared especially if you are fighting one of the best in his generation, so Bivol's camp is surely studying the weakness of Canelo so Bivol will be effective inside the ring and will give him some trouble. The odds of Bivol is very attractive, but knowing how Canelo beat most of his opponents in a dominance passion, it's hard to bet against him.

but no matter what, both will have fat pockets afterwards.
That's for sure, but winnig is still the main objective of every boxer.

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but for canelo's camp, don't get too confident because in the recent boxing matches, we have seen upsets. i am confident with canelo's power here but you'll never know once inside the ring. he has to be prepared and his opponent knows his the underdog with about 3.75 odds on him, whereas, canelo is at 1.25, which clearly shows that bookies will favour canelo on this match.
for bivol, it will be a challenge for him, so he won't go inside the ring unprepared. but no matter what, both will have fat pockets afterwards.

They never show too much confidence in all the fights they are in, what we like about Canelo's camp is they are good in their assessment they never go to the fight without a strategy, Canelo always go to the fight fully aware of his opponent's strength and weaknesses and he beat them all on what they are good at I don't see Bivol having a good chance against Canelo, he's defense is not that good.

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March 07, 2022, 12:39:13 AM
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the vote stands 29-2 ? damn that is frustrating in Bivol side if he finds out about the votes here  Grin

anyway it is indeed Alvarez is the favorite here and seeing the standing? who would bet for Bivol to win here?

but of course boxing is always a Fight of chances , and also the other team is using the popularity of Alvarez to make his Name in the future.

I am for Canelo as well here.

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They never show too much confidence in all the fights they are in, what we like about Canelo's camp is they are good in their assessment they never go to the fight without a strategy, Canelo always go to the fight fully aware of his opponent's strength and weaknesses and he beat them all on what they are good at I don't see Bivol having a good chance against Canelo, he's defense is not that good.

It won't take too long before he beats Bivol and surprises him with how strong he is inside the ring. Looks like he doesn't have any good defensive strategy to counter Canelo's punch unless he works hard to acquire new traits in boxing but that too is easy for Canelo because he can also adopt and counter his opponent and destroy their rythms to knock them out. This is not an easy fight for Bivol as he is a total underdog here, it would be crossing a giant wall which doesn't really budge at all.

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March 07, 2022, 01:42:12 AM
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The only thing that makes this fight anticipated is that this involves Canelo Alvarez. Other than that, the anticipation is not this high. That Dmitry Bivol is Canelo's opponent does not make this fight anticipated. It does not make this fight exciting at all. The odds says it all. But I am still considering the possibility of an upset. Bivol has the youth in him and has the advantage in terms of stats. If he only keeps Canelo at a distance he will make it to a unanimous decision. But this is still an uphill battle for him.
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The only thing that makes this fight anticipated is that this involves Canelo Alvarez. Other than that, the anticipation is not this high. That Dmitry Bivol is Canelo's opponent does not make this fight anticipated. It does not make this fight exciting at all. The odds says it all. But I am still considering the possibility of an upset. Bivol has the youth in him and has the advantage in terms of stats. If he only keeps Canelo at a distance he will make it to a unanimous decision. But this is still an uphill battle for him.

Still very exciting as Bivol is undefeated, has a good knock out percentage. So there is slight chance of an upset if Bivol hit him square. We haven't seen Canelo being tested since the GGG fight, all his opponents in 168 just breaks down from Canelo's attack. I think Bivol will be a tough match for him at the Light Weight so this will be a good match up.

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March 07, 2022, 11:58:45 PM
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The only thing that makes this fight anticipated is that this involves Canelo Alvarez. Other than that, the anticipation is not this high. That Dmitry Bivol is Canelo's opponent does not make this fight anticipated. It does not make this fight exciting at all. The odds says it all. But I am still considering the possibility of an upset. Bivol has the youth in him and has the advantage in terms of stats. If he only keeps Canelo at a distance he will make it to a unanimous decision. But this is still an uphill battle for him.

Still very exciting as Bivol is undefeated, has a good knock out percentage. So there is slight chance of an upset if Bivol hit him square. We haven't seen Canelo being tested since the GGG fight, all his opponents in 168 just breaks down from Canelo's attack. I think Bivol will be a tough match for him at the Light Weight so this will be a good match up.

Since this is the first time that Canelo will fight after deciding to move up, we are all ended up speculating on who's the dominate one to each other. It's good that Bivol is the one that targeted by Canelo to test his skills.

Bivol should not be treated as heavy underdog on this fight even most are eyeing for Canelo to win.

On the possibility of fighting GGG, regardless of the result of this fight, Canelo might likely to push the fight against GGG.

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March 08, 2022, 12:11:48 AM
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The only thing that makes this fight anticipated is that this involves Canelo Alvarez. Other than that, the anticipation is not this high. That Dmitry Bivol is Canelo's opponent does not make this fight anticipated. It does not make this fight exciting at all. The odds says it all. But I am still considering the possibility of an upset. Bivol has the youth in him and has the advantage in terms of stats. If he only keeps Canelo at a distance he will make it to a unanimous decision. But this is still an uphill battle for him.

Still very exciting as Bivol is undefeated, has a good knock out percentage. So there is slight chance of an upset if Bivol hit him square. We haven't seen Canelo being tested since the GGG fight, all his opponents in 168 just breaks down from Canelo's attack. I think Bivol will be a tough match for him at the Light Weight so this will be a good match up.

Since this is the first time that Canelo will fight after deciding to move up, we are all ended up speculating on who's the dominate one to each other. It's good that Bivol is the one that targeted by Canelo to test his skills.

Bivol should not be treated as heavy underdog on this fight even most are eyeing for Canelo to win.

On the possibility of fighting GGG, regardless of the result of this fight, Canelo might likely to push the fight against GGG.

Bivol is indeed dangerous opponent. Canelo experience is only his advantage since Bivol has a high IQ fighter like Mayweather which Canelo only lose on his career. But still this fight is much easier choice for him compared to other division champions which far more dangerous to him.

Mt bet will still goes to Canelo but I will toss some bucks to Bivol in case shit happened in the ring.  Cheesy

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March 08, 2022, 01:17:59 AM
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The only thing that makes this fight anticipated is that this involves Canelo Alvarez. Other than that, the anticipation is not this high. That Dmitry Bivol is Canelo's opponent does not make this fight anticipated. It does not make this fight exciting at all. The odds says it all. But I am still considering the possibility of an upset. Bivol has the youth in him and has the advantage in terms of stats. If he only keeps Canelo at a distance he will make it to a unanimous decision. But this is still an uphill battle for him.

Still very exciting as Bivol is undefeated, has a good knock out percentage. So there is slight chance of an upset if Bivol hit him square. We haven't seen Canelo being tested since the GGG fight, all his opponents in 168 just breaks down from Canelo's attack. I think Bivol will be a tough match for him at the Light Weight so this will be a good match up.

Since this is the first time that Canelo will fight after deciding to move up, we are all ended up speculating on who's the dominate one to each other. It's good that Bivol is the one that targeted by Canelo to test his skills.

This is not the first time Canelo is fighting in this weight class. Canelo has already defeated Kovalev in a light heavyweight title fight way back in 2019. It wasn't just a defeat, Canelo in fact knocked out Sergey. So this match against Bivol is the second match of Canelo at the 175 pounds limit. I think both Kovalev and Bivol are also 6 feet tall. It is interesting that Canelo is facing another Russian fighter in his light heavyweight return. We will see whether the younger Bivol will somehow avenge the loss of Kovalev.
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