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Question: Who will win this fight?
Alvarez - 36 (83.7%)
Bivol - 5 (11.6%)
Draw - 2 (4.7%)
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March 08, 2022, 08:38:56 AM
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Another Russian? I think he is just representing Russia (hope politics wont be involved in this fight), but originally he is from Kyrgyzstan. I am not sure if there is a huge difference in boxing schools, but his style will be more close to GGG. Some might think that thanks to reach advantage, Dmitry Bivol will have an advantage over Canelo. But I think we will see copy/paste of Kovalev vs Canelo fight. I would love to see Canelo vs Artur Beterbiev fight. I bet Artur can give Canelo lots of troubles, as his power is greater compared to Bivol. Beterbiev ended all of his fight by TKO or KO.

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March 08, 2022, 10:08:30 AM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.

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March 08, 2022, 11:37:37 AM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.

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March 08, 2022, 12:11:59 PM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.
Exactly, though USA is against the Russia and they are giving them sanctions. We should be optimistic, this fight will happen and we will see an entertaining fight again. After this fight, Canelo is set to fight GGG as per report which also has a blood of a Russian.

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March 08, 2022, 12:14:38 PM
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entertainment

That is the proper word to use. Punishing athletes just because they have specific passport or nationality is wrong. The world should stop that practice. This time someone is banned because his county has started a war, next time someone will be banned because he has a different point of view. If you ban everyone, there will be one left who will entertain you.

Canelo has already beated everyone in his division. If the world ban Russians, there will be less unbeaten opponent left. What should he do next then? Retire or fight with guys he had beaten for second or third time? Or wait for new generation of boxers to grow up? Or wait till Ryan Garcia will be ready for him?  Grin

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March 08, 2022, 12:21:21 PM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.
I don't think it will be suspended, Canelo is the face of boxing and if they did with his first fight for this year, this might send a bag signal for all Russian boxers, and it's not be good for the sports. Boxing fans wanted to see Canelo this year against a tough fighter in Bivol and hopefully this politics and sports should be separated.

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March 08, 2022, 03:44:47 PM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.

Same here, even without the fact that we haven't seen Canelo fighting this year, I do hope that this fight will continue and not just this fight but for other Russian Athletes as well that have some games or fight scheduled even before the implementation was posted. These industries is for sports and entertainment, and not for politics. They should've let the elected country leaders deal with it.

Anyways, did you guys saw the viral news about Vladimir Putin's statement for FIFA? If not, here it is.
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FIFA must not enter into war politics, The National Football team of Russia will play FIFA World Cup in Qatar, or there won’t be WORLD CUP at all” -Putin
Source: https://twitter.com/sokapatriots/status/1500168891988852737?s=20&t=zVxqdMIHLJzKJXnwdONTKw
 

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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.

Same here, even without the fact that we haven't seen Canelo fighting this year, I do hope that this fight will continue and not just this fight but for other Russian Athletes as well that have some games or fight scheduled even before the implementation was posted. These industries is for sports and entertainment, and not for politics. They should've let the elected country leaders deal with it.

Anyways, did you guys saw the viral news about Vladimir Putin's statement for FIFA? If not, here it is.
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FIFA must not enter into war politics, The National Football team of Russia will play FIFA World Cup in Qatar, or there won’t be WORLD CUP at all” -Putin
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That statement is very positive, it's a go on his side but hopefully the same on the side of other countries or the organizers of the boxing event. When politics will come into the picture, everything will become biased and that will kill the excitement. Just let them fight, at least in times of war we can still entertain ourselves.

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March 08, 2022, 07:11:23 PM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.
I don't think it will be suspended, Canelo is the face of boxing and if they did with his first fight for this year, this might send a bag signal for all Russian boxers, and it's not be good for the sports. Boxing fans wanted to see Canelo this year against a tough fighter in Bivol and hopefully this politics and sports should be separated.

Hopefully, as we don't know what is the effect of this ongoing war with sport industry. We can't conclude if they can proceed or if the governing concerns will not interrupt to this upcoming fight. We do want Canelo inside the ring and facing a much bigger Bivol we will
see how tough Canelo's preparation went thru.

Aiming for Canelo to win and see more upcoming fight being settled for him with more heavy and skilled fighters. Roll Eyes Cool

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March 08, 2022, 08:01:12 PM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.
I don't think it will be suspended, Canelo is the face of boxing and if they did with his first fight for this year, this might send a bag signal for all Russian boxers, and it's not be good for the sports. Boxing fans wanted to see Canelo this year against a tough fighter in Bivol and hopefully this politics and sports should be separated.

Right, maybe this is just the initial reaction of some sporting bodies to the news. And hopefully they will have to change their stance because this boxers should also not be a victim of the war. This is a highly anticipated match and if it will not happen, then the boxing schedule will have to readjust again and Bivol will have to wait. The question is will he have a second chance against Canelo if the fight will not be allowed in May? Another waste of time and opportunity for him to fight the current pound for pound fighter.

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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.
I don't think it will be suspended, Canelo is the face of boxing and if they did with his first fight for this year, this might send a bag signal for all Russian boxers, and it's not be good for the sports. Boxing fans wanted to see Canelo this year against a tough fighter in Bivol and hopefully this politics and sports should be separated.

I support the war but a match that was already prepared before the war should not be stopped because of the politics of war, I like this fight to happen let's see if a young guy from Russia who is touted to be the next big thing will have a chance to go against a guy considered to be a pound for pound, of course, people will go for Canelo, the audience will see it as a way to revenge Ukraine against Russia, honestly this is going to be a good fight for Canelo another added fight to his legacy.

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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.
I don't think it will be suspended, Canelo is the face of boxing and if they did with his first fight for this year, this might send a bag signal for all Russian boxers, and it's not be good for the sports. Boxing fans wanted to see Canelo this year against a tough fighter in Bivol and hopefully this politics and sports should be separated.

I support the war but a match that was already prepared before the war should not be stopped because of the politics of war, I like this fight to happen let's see if a young guy from Russia who is touted to be the next big thing will have a chance to go against a guy considered to be a pound for pound, of course, people will go for Canelo, the audience will see it as a way to revenge Ukraine against Russia, honestly this is going to be a good fight for Canelo another added fight to his legacy.
It is really sad that everything is been tied up and its true that there's should really be some exclusions on things that had been already set earlier and there should be some exemptions.
Yeah this guy had been touted to be the next big thing which i could see that he would really be giving out some good shot against Canelo but although this would really be just
like on breaking a huge wall even though chances are slim but its not impossible.

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March 08, 2022, 11:55:38 PM
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I support the war but a match that was already prepared before the war should not be stopped because of the politics of war, I like this fight to happen let's see if a young guy from Russia who is touted to be the next big thing will have a chance to go against a guy considered to be a pound for pound, of course, people will go for Canelo, the audience will see it as a way to revenge Ukraine against Russia, honestly this is going to be a good fight for Canelo another added fight to his legacy.

As far as the progress goes, I think there will be no delays nor cancelling the fight just because of the current conflict that happening between Ukraine and Russia. It was already set and go and the fight should be push no matter what as it will affect each boxer's timeline for their next possible lineup of fights.

I don't think though that Canelo winning here will be considered by the audience as a revenge against Russia.

I don't see how people will end up on that thinking. It's not making sense for me.

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March 08, 2022, 11:58:17 PM
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I support the war but a match that was already prepared before the war should not be stopped because of the politics of war, I like this fight to happen let's see if a young guy from Russia who is touted to be the next big thing will have a chance to go against a guy considered to be a pound for pound, of course, people will go for Canelo, the audience will see it as a way to revenge Ukraine against Russia, honestly this is going to be a good fight for Canelo another added fight to his legacy.

As far as the progress goes, I think there will be no delays nor cancelling the fight just because of the current conflict that happening between Ukraine and Russia. It was already set and go and the fight should be push no matter what as it will affect each boxer's timeline for their next possible lineup of fights.

I don't think though that Canelo winning here will be considered by the audience as a revenge against Russia.

I don't see how people will end up on that thinking. It's not making sense for me.

Some rising ideas are really not making sense anymore. People are getting angry to Russians even hatred. But we need to put ourselves in their shoes. Do they want this crisis to happen? Most of them are condemning the acts of their leader, but they couldn't do much. They also have the privilege to live. Only unfortunate that they are holding Russian passports but for sure, their hearts go to their Ukrainian brothers as well. But anyway, even without this war, I think, people will be rooting for Canelo because of his record and performance, though, Bivol has zero loss on his record here.
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March 09, 2022, 01:39:25 AM
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The only thing that makes this fight anticipated is that this involves Canelo Alvarez. Other than that, the anticipation is not this high. That Dmitry Bivol is Canelo's opponent does not make this fight anticipated. It does not make this fight exciting at all. The odds says it all. But I am still considering the possibility of an upset. Bivol has the youth in him and has the advantage in terms of stats. If he only keeps Canelo at a distance he will make it to a unanimous decision. But this is still an uphill battle for him.

Still very exciting as Bivol is undefeated, has a good knock out percentage. So there is slight chance of an upset if Bivol hit him square. We haven't seen Canelo being tested since the GGG fight, all his opponents in 168 just breaks down from Canelo's attack. I think Bivol will be a tough match for him at the Light Weight so this will be a good match up.

Since this is the first time that Canelo will fight after deciding to move up, we are all ended up speculating on who's the dominate one to each other. It's good that Bivol is the one that targeted by Canelo to test his skills.

Bivol should not be treated as heavy underdog on this fight even most are eyeing for Canelo to win.

On the possibility of fighting GGG, regardless of the result of this fight, Canelo might likely to push the fight against GGG.

Yes, but the magnitude of the hype between the two will double up if both will win their respective fights.

Bivol might be the underdog, but this is his weight class so for sure he is more familiar as compare to Canelo although he has fought in this division already, will have to make the move again. Bivol will have to embrace his underdog status but prove it differently in the right and we hope that it will really be a competitive fight.

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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.

This is right but as we have always observed or even experienced first hand, sports and politics are oftentimes closely intertwined more than we could imagine. Politics have so much influence not just in matters pertaining to governance but also in almost aspects of public life.

I hope this fight will still push through but in case WBO and other boxing organizations around the world are ordered to remove Russian players from their leagues I think they can do nothing but comply.
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March 09, 2022, 07:45:28 AM
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I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.

Yes I hope it will not be suspended too and sports should not be mixed with politics but we see a lot of leagues including FIFA and UEFA ban Russia in participating to their league. Let's just hope the WBO won't suspend the fight i wanted to see Canelo fight again in the ring.

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March 09, 2022, 09:25:38 AM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.

Same here, even without the fact that we haven't seen Canelo fighting this year, I do hope that this fight will continue and not just this fight but for other Russian Athletes as well that have some games or fight scheduled even before the implementation was posted. These industries is for sports and entertainment, and not for politics. They should've let the elected country leaders deal with it.

Anyways, did you guys saw the viral news about Vladimir Putin's statement for FIFA? If not, here it is.
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FIFA must not enter into war politics, The National Football team of Russia will play FIFA World Cup in Qatar, or there won’t be WORLD CUP at all” -Putin
Source: https://twitter.com/sokapatriots/status/1500168891988852737?s=20&t=zVxqdMIHLJzKJXnwdONTKw
 

That statement is very positive, it's a go on his side but hopefully the same on the side of other countries or the organizers of the boxing event. When politics will come into the picture, everything will become biased and that will kill the excitement. Just let them fight, at least in times of war we can still entertain ourselves.

Indeed, it was. It is just really unfair for these boxers and other athletes to be treated this way and be banned from certain games just because their president started an invasion and war in the far north. I mean, c'mon! They're aren't taking part on the war, they are just here to make money while entertaining people.

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March 09, 2022, 09:49:29 AM
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Wouldn't it be suspend because of the Russia invasion? many sports league already removed Russia in their competition but the WBO does not yet? or they doesn't care about politics? In this match I think I would go in Alvarez, I see his previous matches and I think he can't easily beat by Bivol though Bivol doesn't have much professional boxing career his previous career in non professional boxing is great too. This is very exciting match.
I hope it will not be suspended, we have not seen Canelo having a fight this year yet unlike last year when he fight 3 times in a year IIRC. Sports should not be mixed with politics as its main purpose is just entertainment, so I hope we will see our expectations.

Same here, even without the fact that we haven't seen Canelo fighting this year, I do hope that this fight will continue and not just this fight but for other Russian Athletes as well that have some games or fight scheduled even before the implementation was posted. These industries is for sports and entertainment, and not for politics. They should've let the elected country leaders deal with it.

Anyways, did you guys saw the viral news about Vladimir Putin's statement for FIFA? If not, here it is.
Quote
FIFA must not enter into war politics, The National Football team of Russia will play FIFA World Cup in Qatar, or there won’t be WORLD CUP at all” -Putin
Source: https://twitter.com/sokapatriots/status/1500168891988852737?s=20&t=zVxqdMIHLJzKJXnwdONTKw
 

That statement is very positive, it's a go on his side but hopefully the same on the side of other countries or the organizers of the boxing event. When politics will come into the picture, everything will become biased and that will kill the excitement. Just let them fight, at least in times of war we can still entertain ourselves.

Indeed, it was. It is just really unfair for these boxers and other athletes to be treated this way and be banned from certain games just because their president started an invasion and war in the far north. I mean, c'mon! They're aren't taking part on the war, they are just here to make money while entertaining people.

The statement of the sanctioning bodies and other giants in the sports industries are heavily biased, they cannot just ban those said athletes and get the fights unsanctioned just because their nationality is Russian is really unreasonable and wrong.

If this cases will remain, then I don't doubt that a time will come that they won't let the said athletes or fighters to join such games or events just because they do not share the same beliefs or views.

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March 09, 2022, 10:36:53 AM
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Like all the other early big fights of Canelo he is the heavy favorite, here only two people out of 30 voters here believe Bivol can beat Canelo, I have this feeling Bivol is the weakest opponent Canelo will face, he lacks defense doesn't have a good lateral movement and flatfooted, something Canelo exploits with that kind of moves.


Alvarez   - 27 (90%)
Bivol   - 2 (6.7%)
Draw   - 1 (3.3%)
Total Voters: 30
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