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Question: Who will win this fight?
Alvarez - 36 (83.7%)
Bivol - 5 (11.6%)
Draw - 2 (4.7%)
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March 28, 2022, 11:23:20 AM
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Without a doubt this is a good news, after all the possibility of the fight being canceled or delayed was real, as right now there is a very strong call to boycott anything and anyone that comes from Russia, so I applaud the decision of the WBA to keep sanctioning this fight as without a doubt it does not seem as if Bivol is in favor of the war and as such it would be unjust to punish him for something that is completely outside his control.

Actually, the world is just making sure that Russian athletes won't be harmed since not all people can understand the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. That's why on other sports, they ban Russian athletes. There might be a case that fans will throw shits to the Russian athletes in a certain event regardless if those are in favor or not in the war. That will be unfair treatment to them.

Here in Canelo vs Bivol fight, the venue will be on US soil and there might be fans on the venue that will treat Bivol badly. Although he's not totally lived in Russia, his hometown is part of the USSR. The US has backed up Ukraine and Bivol might end up not being respected by the fans on the day of the fight.

They are just ensuring the match will not lead to protest or rally inside the arena.
Because they won't know what will possibly transpire during the day of the fight.
So yes, it is good that they are assessing the situation here before it happens.
But most Russian athletes are condemning Putin's move, but they can't do much about it.
They are like one of the collaterals of this war. Most of them haven't seen this coming.
Exactly, they are just the victims of the war led by their President. Bivol has nothing to do with it so that is unfair for him if the fight is going to be cancelled or there could be protest or rally inside or outside. He is just a boxer trying to make his dreams come true by fighting one of the best in our generation and hopefully, who knows he could upset Canelo.

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March 28, 2022, 03:25:40 PM
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Without a doubt this is a good news, after all the possibility of the fight being canceled or delayed was real, as right now there is a very strong call to boycott anything and anyone that comes from Russia, so I applaud the decision of the WBA to keep sanctioning this fight as without a doubt it does not seem as if Bivol is in favor of the war and as such it would be unjust to punish him for something that is completely outside his control.

Actually, the world is just making sure that Russian athletes won't be harmed since not all people can understand the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. That's why on other sports, they ban Russian athletes. There might be a case that fans will throw shits to the Russian athletes in a certain event regardless if those are in favor or not in the war. That will be unfair treatment to them.

Here in Canelo vs Bivol fight, the venue will be on US soil and there might be fans on the venue that will treat Bivol badly. Although he's not totally lived in Russia, his hometown is part of the USSR. The US has backed up Ukraine and Bivol might end up not being respected by the fans on the day of the fight.

They are just ensuring the match will not lead to protest or rally inside the arena.
Because they won't know what will possibly transpire during the day of the fight.
So yes, it is good that they are assessing the situation here before it happens.
But most Russian athletes are condemning Putin's move, but they can't do much about it.
They are like one of the collaterals of this war. Most of them haven't seen this coming.
Exactly, they are just the victims of the war led by their President. Bivol has nothing to do with it so that is unfair for him if the fight is going to be cancelled or there could be protest or rally inside or outside. He is just a boxer trying to make his dreams come true by fighting one of the best in our generation and hopefully, who knows he could upset Canelo.

He will have hostile crowds knowing that he is from Russia and Canelo has a good motivation to beat him, I have this feeling that he will beat him so bad that his corner might stop the fight, Canelo will be the sentimental favorite here because of what's happening between Russia and Ukraine and Bivol will be the victim, I hope is the best form of his life, he is up against the current pound for pound champion.

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March 28, 2022, 05:22:57 PM
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He will have hostile crowds knowing that he is from Russia and Canelo has a good motivation to beat him, I have this feeling that he will beat him so bad that his corner might stop the fight, Canelo will be the sentimental favorite here because of what's happening between Russia and Ukraine and Bivol will be the victim, I hope is the best form of his life, he is up against the current pound for pound champion.

Hope to see him fighting back and also try to prove something in his career, Alvarez will be the heavy favorite but Bivol is also familiar in this division, maybe he can take and survive Alvarez punches, if he does, his fighting chance will be much better. As long as he's willing to take the challenge and he will show his skills, maybe upset or maybe he will be beaten thru UD.

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March 28, 2022, 07:35:53 PM
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Without a doubt this is a good news, after all the possibility of the fight being canceled or delayed was real, as right now there is a very strong call to boycott anything and anyone that comes from Russia, so I applaud the decision of the WBA to keep sanctioning this fight as without a doubt it does not seem as if Bivol is in favor of the war and as such it would be unjust to punish him for something that is completely outside his control.

Actually, the world is just making sure that Russian athletes won't be harmed since not all people can understand the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. That's why on other sports, they ban Russian athletes. There might be a case that fans will throw shits to the Russian athletes in a certain event regardless if those are in favor or not in the war. That will be unfair treatment to them.

Here in Canelo vs Bivol fight, the venue will be on US soil and there might be fans on the venue that will treat Bivol badly. Although he's not totally lived in Russia, his hometown is part of the USSR. The US has backed up Ukraine and Bivol might end up not being respected by the fans on the day of the fight.

They are just ensuring the match will not lead to protest or rally inside the arena.
Because they won't know what will possibly transpire during the day of the fight.
So yes, it is good that they are assessing the situation here before it happens.
But most Russian athletes are condemning Putin's move, but they can't do much about it.
They are like one of the collaterals of this war. Most of them haven't seen this coming.
Exactly, they are just the victims of the war led by their President. Bivol has nothing to do with it so that is unfair for him if the fight is going to be cancelled or there could be protest or rally inside or outside. He is just a boxer trying to make his dreams come true by fighting one of the best in our generation and hopefully, who knows he could upset Canelo.

He will have hostile crowds knowing that he is from Russia and Canelo has a good motivation to beat him, I have this feeling that he will beat him so bad that his corner might stop the fight, Canelo will be the sentimental favorite here because of what's happening between Russia and Ukraine and Bivol will be the victim, I hope is the best form of his life, he is up against the current pound for pound champion.

An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.

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March 29, 2022, 02:50:45 PM
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He will have hostile crowds knowing that he is from Russia and Canelo has a good motivation to beat him, I have this feeling that he will beat him so bad that his corner might stop the fight, Canelo will be the sentimental favorite here because of what's happening between Russia and Ukraine and Bivol will be the victim, I hope is the best form of his life, he is up against the current pound for pound champion.

Hope to see him fighting back and also try to prove something in his career, Alvarez will be the heavy favorite but Bivol is also familiar in this division, maybe he can take and survive Alvarez punches, if he does, his fighting chance will be much better. As long as he's willing to take the challenge and he will show his skills, maybe upset or maybe he will be beaten thru UD.

Doesn't matter though if this is his division, he will be facing the best boxer of this era, at this prime, so it's really hard to overcome Canelo at his peak. Maybe he can land some shots and got lucky, but that chances are very slim. Of course, as he can extend the fight to 12 rounds, maybe his chances are going to multiple, but I don't that Canelo can be upset between 160-175 lbs. He is too good and his boxing IQ is one of the best.

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March 29, 2022, 02:53:34 PM
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An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.
The mentality of the Bivol fighter is ready to face the ridicule that hits the opponent's ground, but I'm afraid he's not ready to accept criticism about the Russo-Ukrainian war because it could disrupt his concentration. I hope the fans uphold sportsmanship not to involve him in conditions he doesn't want. Bivols should really focus on the boxing match for a fair fight result without booing the opponent excessively during the match.

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March 29, 2022, 04:31:20 PM
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An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.
The mentality of the Bivol fighter is ready to face the ridicule that hits the opponent's ground, but I'm afraid he's not ready to accept criticism about the Russo-Ukrainian war because it could disrupt his concentration. I hope the fans uphold sportsmanship not to involve him in conditions he doesn't want. Bivols should really focus on the boxing match for a fair fight result without booing the opponent excessively during the match.
I think the fight will test the mentality of the bivols in the ring , as we all know if the russian invasion of ukraine clearly affected the sport as it is today, and boos will probably still come out of the mouths of the crowd in that fight, but that's what bivol needs in the fight is to stay calm and focus on facing the opponent, I think maybe the promoter needs to carry out the fight behind closed doors so as not to cause anything bad from the audience, because I think the russian invasion of ukraine is a very sensitive subject right now on russian athletes .

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March 29, 2022, 11:59:22 PM
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I think the fight will test the mentality of the bivols in the ring , as we all know if the russian invasion of ukraine clearly affected the sport as it is today, and boos will probably still come out of the mouths of the crowd in that fight, but that's what bivol needs in the fight is to stay calm and focus on facing the opponent, I think maybe the promoter needs to carry out the fight behind closed doors so as not to cause anything bad from the audience, because I think the russian invasion of ukraine is a very sensitive subject right now on russian athletes .

That's what I'm thinking. Bivol is having that thing on his mind and even by 1%, it will still affect his mentality and purpose to win the fight against Canelo. He said in the interview that he has families and friends living in both Russia and Ukraine and those who live in the latter are always on his mind as they are the ones being attacked. Even he is a professional boxer, he's still a human being after all.

Since it's about months to go before the fight, I hope something miraculous will happen and will put an end to the ongoing conflict between Putin and Ukraine. Bivol and other Russian athletes will surely be happy about that and can remain focused now on their goals.
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An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.
The mentality of the Bivol fighter is ready to face the ridicule that hits the opponent's ground, but I'm afraid he's not ready to accept criticism about the Russo-Ukrainian war because it could disrupt his concentration. I hope the fans uphold sportsmanship not to involve him in conditions he doesn't want. Bivols should really focus on the boxing match for a fair fight result without booing the opponent excessively during the match.

Yeah, probably a very hostile crowd for Bivol because of the ongoing war. Nevertheless, as an athlete, he should learn how to shut down the noise around him and concentrate on the fight.

We can't control the crowd, who knows, maybe there will be pro Russians that is going to watch the fight live to cheer him . So just imagine how the crowd will behave, but hopefully there will be no untoward incident in the arena and there should be more securities around.

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An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.
The mentality of the Bivol fighter is ready to face the ridicule that hits the opponent's ground, but I'm afraid he's not ready to accept criticism about the Russo-Ukrainian war because it could disrupt his concentration. I hope the fans uphold sportsmanship not to involve him in conditions he doesn't want. Bivols should really focus on the boxing match for a fair fight result without booing the opponent excessively during the match.

Yeah, probably a very hostile crowd for Bivol because of the ongoing war. Nevertheless, as an athlete, he should learn how to shut down the noise around him and concentrate on the fight.

We can't control the crowd, who knows, maybe there will be pro Russians that is going to watch the fight live to cheer him . So just imagine how the crowd will behave, but hopefully there will be no untoward incident in the arena and there should be more securities around.

We can't control that the rivalry of racest is way deeper from these two nations. I like that idea Bivol should focus
in how to beat Alvarez, it's a sport that they can showcase their skills and prove how tough they are in this field, allowing Canelo to dominate him will give more confidence to knock him down.

It's too early to say, but both fighters are surely waiting for this fight and prove something personal.

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March 30, 2022, 02:59:26 AM
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An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.
The mentality of the Bivol fighter is ready to face the ridicule that hits the opponent's ground, but I'm afraid he's not ready to accept criticism about the Russo-Ukrainian war because it could disrupt his concentration. I hope the fans uphold sportsmanship not to involve him in conditions he doesn't want. Bivols should really focus on the boxing match for a fair fight result without booing the opponent excessively during the match.

Yeah, probably a very hostile crowd for Bivol because of the ongoing war. Nevertheless, as an athlete, he should learn how to shut down the noise around him and concentrate on the fight.

We can't control the crowd, who knows, maybe there will be pro Russians that is going to watch the fight live to cheer him . So just imagine how the crowd will behave, but hopefully there will be no untoward incident in the arena and there should be more securities around.

We can't control that the rivalry of racest is way deeper from these two nations. I like that idea Bivol should focus
in how to beat Alvarez, it's a sport that they can showcase their skills and prove how tough they are in this field, allowing Canelo to dominate him will give more confidence to knock him down.

It's too early to say, but both fighters are surely waiting for this fight and prove something personal.

Why personal? Is this fight even personal between the two athletes? I don't think so. There is nothing personal here except the challenge to be the better boxer. But this is not something as if their desire to defeat the other is born out of a personal hatred towards the other. There is nothing really personal about this fight. Canelo is not from Ukraine. And Bivol is not somebody who's willing to bomb a country to the ground. I think both Canelo and Bivol are acting only as boxers in this fight. Both of them don't have a beef with each other.
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An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.
The mentality of the Bivol fighter is ready to face the ridicule that hits the opponent's ground, but I'm afraid he's not ready to accept criticism about the Russo-Ukrainian war because it could disrupt his concentration. I hope the fans uphold sportsmanship not to involve him in conditions he doesn't want. Bivols should really focus on the boxing match for a fair fight result without booing the opponent excessively during the match.

Yeah, probably a very hostile crowd for Bivol because of the ongoing war. Nevertheless, as an athlete, he should learn how to shut down the noise around him and concentrate on the fight.

We can't control the crowd, who knows, maybe there will be pro Russians that is going to watch the fight live to cheer him . So just imagine how the crowd will behave, but hopefully there will be no untoward incident in the arena and there should be more securities around.
Well, there's a possibility for the crowd to react that way but its better for him to just ignore and focus on the fight. He is a Russian, but he has nothing to do with the chaos happening between the two country so people should understand that. He is a boxer and his goal is to win and defend his title.

Anyway, Im more excited to see the victory for Canelo because there's a possibility that he will face GGG again (if ever GGG win his upcoming fight) that will be an exciting event.

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^^ Or better yet, let's just enjoy the fight whether we watch it live or PPV with friends. We are not there to judge Bivol being a Russian, he is a sports man and fighting for himself alone. It this is Olympics, yeah you are representing your country. But this is professional level now, everything is on the line, your dreams, and specially the money that he is going to earn. So it's better for him to concentrate on the fight and not be bothered by what's going on in his country.

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^^ Or better yet, let's just enjoy the fight whether we watch it live or PPV with friends. We are not there to judge Bivol being a Russian, he is a sports man and fighting for himself alone. It this is Olympics, yeah you are representing your country. But this is professional level now, everything is on the line, your dreams, and specially the money that he is going to earn. So it's better for him to concentrate on the fight and not be bothered by what's going on in his country.

Agree with it, sports should not be mixed with politics as it will kill the entertainment value we should be getting. Yes, we know that Bivol is a Russian, but should we hate all the Russians because of their actions invading the Ukraine, for me, that's very political and I cannot judge their actions and I'm sure hating all the Russians is not the solution to this war.

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Agree with it, sports should not be mixed with politics as it will kill the entertainment value we should be getting. Yes, we know that Bivol is a Russian, but should we hate all the Russians because of their actions invading the Ukraine, for me, that's very political and I cannot judge their actions and I'm sure hating all the Russians is not the solution to this war.

Bivol has nothing to do with the current war and the other athlete who was trying hard to win a championship. they've been playing and enjoying their profession since before the war. It's not right that we put the blame on the country, or the race, especially the people who don't have anything to do with it. This upcoming fight it's all about sportsmanship and 2 boxers who wanted to prove to themselves and the others that they are stronger against each other. There's nothing personal or war crime involved, it's just pure sports.

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March 30, 2022, 01:11:06 PM
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Bivol has nothing to do with the current war and the other athlete who was trying hard to win a championship. they've been playing and enjoying their profession since before the war. It's not right that we put the blame on the country, or the race, especially the people who don't have anything to do with it. This upcoming fight it's all about sportsmanship and 2 boxers who wanted to prove to themselves and the others that they are stronger against each other. There's nothing personal or war crime involved, it's just pure sports.

Exactly and appropriately mate, Bivol has nothing to do with the war and he himself couldn't also afford to bother himself about it because he is a sporty man not a man in a war. I just do hope that this fight may push through despite of the incidents because sports like boxing is not related to war. Instead, Bivol should focus on the fight and focus on the training because his opponent Canelo Alvarez is known as an undefeated champion.
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Without a doubt this is a good news, after all the possibility of the fight being canceled or delayed was real, as right now there is a very strong call to boycott anything and anyone that comes from Russia, so I applaud the decision of the WBA to keep sanctioning this fight as without a doubt it does not seem as if Bivol is in favor of the war and as such it would be unjust to punish him for something that is completely outside his control.

Actually, the world is just making sure that Russian athletes won't be harmed since not all people can understand the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. That's why on other sports, they ban Russian athletes. There might be a case that fans will throw shits to the Russian athletes in a certain event regardless if those are in favor or not in the war. That will be unfair treatment to them.

Here in Canelo vs Bivol fight, the venue will be on US soil and there might be fans on the venue that will treat Bivol badly. Although he's not totally lived in Russia, his hometown is part of the USSR. The US has backed up Ukraine and Bivol might end up not being respected by the fans on the day of the fight.
That is an interesting point that I have not really thought about it before, however I really think that people are very understanding, as long as the organizers take the time to make clear about the posture of Bivol and several other Russian athletes that are against the war and which would be unjust to treat that way people will understand it and treat them properly, after all those which oppose Putin and his policies inside Russia are our only hope to ever see Putin losing control over Russia, so we must encourage them and not punish them excessively.
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^^ Or better yet, let's just enjoy the fight whether we watch it live or PPV with friends. We are not there to judge Bivol being a Russian, he is a sports man and fighting for himself alone. It this is Olympics, yeah you are representing your country. But this is professional level now, everything is on the line, your dreams, and specially the money that he is going to earn. So it's better for him to concentrate on the fight and not be bothered by what's going on in his country.

Agree with it, sports should not be mixed with politics as it will kill the entertainment value we should be getting. Yes, we know that Bivol is a Russian, but should we hate all the Russians because of their actions invading the Ukraine, for me, that's very political and I cannot judge their actions and I'm sure hating all the Russians is not the solution to this war.

And for sure Bivol itself is not also in favor from that political action of the government, he's more on the sport side so like both of you, it's better to enjoy the fight, There's nothing we can do about the war but we can enjoy when these two boxers start throwing punches, the fans would love to see what both fighters have to offer. Looking forward to see value fight that really brings good entertainment to all the viewers and bettors.

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March 30, 2022, 09:33:15 PM
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I hope this will push through this fight is already plan before the invasion, they have to sanction this fight and then decide for all coming fights that involve Russian fighter, it's depriving both fighters and the boxing community a well deserve fight, so many efforts and money will be wasted if this fight will not push through, I have respect for the Klitschko brothers but not on this one, we can boycott Russian boxers after this fight

We have good news already that the fight will push as it is supposed to be.

No change of plans or getting a sanctioned that it will be a non-title bout. Let's be positive on that and hope that the situation between Russia and Ukraine will be solved thru diplomacy as we don't other industries like sports to be affected by the ongoing conflict. Not all Russians, especially athletes, want the war in the first place that's why it seems unfair that they are dealing with the consequences that their President is doing.

Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol will take place on May 7 without a problem. They should let the fight just push without a problem.

Thank you very much for the information and this is great news, I am very happy that this fight is going smoothly, it is true what you say the Russian athletes are not interested in a war, in fact I think most people do not want it to happen war and that everything can be fixed quickly, if this is so many things can be straightened out, both sports and other things for Europe, gas, oil, among other things.

This fight will be very interesting, May 7 is practically already, a month passes very quickly and I think this will make it more interesting because in some way many will be expecting this fight.

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March 31, 2022, 03:36:31 PM
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That is an interesting point that I have not really thought about it before, however I really think that people are very understanding, as long as the organizers take the time to make clear about the posture of Bivol and several other Russian athletes that are against the war and which would be unjust to treat that way people will understand it and treat them properly
We as spectators have to judge the match from the professional factor between the two boxers, although Bivol is a Russian fighter but he is not involved with the politics of the Russo-Ukrainian war, so it's all about judging and criticizing only during boxing matches and not involving any external issues. I really hope the audience is wise and doesn't bring down the concentration of boxers (not just Bivol) during the match with inappropriate ridicule.

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