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April 01, 2022, 02:06:48 PM
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An unfriendly crowd is expected in their fight especially if the Russia-Ukraine war is still hot during the day of the fight, there will be someone or group of people that will discourage Bivol on the said venue or even a loud booing will heard on his entourage. What he should do is cancel all that nonsense noise and we know that boxers are used to that even before that they will fight on the opponents soil, so he shouldn't be affected after all. I also hope that he can fight with all his best and give an entertain fight to the fans and people who waited for this.
The mentality of the Bivol fighter is ready to face the ridicule that hits the opponent's ground, but I'm afraid he's not ready to accept criticism about the Russo-Ukrainian war because it could disrupt his concentration. I hope the fans uphold sportsmanship not to involve him in conditions he doesn't want. Bivols should really focus on the boxing match for a fair fight result without booing the opponent excessively during the match.

Yeah, probably a very hostile crowd for Bivol because of the ongoing war. Nevertheless, as an athlete, he should learn how to shut down the noise around him and concentrate on the fight.

We can't control the crowd, who knows, maybe there will be pro Russians that is going to watch the fight live to cheer him . So just imagine how the crowd will behave, but hopefully there will be no untoward incident in the arena and there should be more securities around.

We can't control that the rivalry of racest is way deeper from these two nations. I like that idea Bivol should focus
in how to beat Alvarez, it's a sport that they can showcase their skills and prove how tough they are in this field, allowing Canelo to dominate him will give more confidence to knock him down.

It's too early to say, but both fighters are surely waiting for this fight and prove something personal.

Why personal? Is this fight even personal between the two athletes? I don't think so. There is nothing personal here except the challenge to be the better boxer. But this is not something as if their desire to defeat the other is born out of a personal hatred towards the other. There is nothing really personal about this fight. Canelo is not from Ukraine. And Bivol is not somebody who's willing to bomb a country to the ground. I think both Canelo and Bivol are acting only as boxers in this fight. Both of them don't have a beef with each other.

I definitely agree about that, these two boxers doesn't hold any grudge on each other nor they are representing Ukraine and Russia. Bivol and Canelo are just two famous boxers who are fighting for the belt and championship, the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.

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April 01, 2022, 04:20:50 PM
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I think the fight will test the mentality of the bivols in the ring , as we all know if the russian invasion of ukraine clearly affected the sport as it is today, and boos will probably still come out of the mouths of the crowd in that fight, but that's what bivol needs in the fight is to stay calm and focus on facing the opponent, I think maybe the promoter needs to carry out the fight behind closed doors so as not to cause anything bad from the audience, because I think the russian invasion of ukraine is a very sensitive subject right now on russian athletes .

That's what I'm thinking. Bivol is having that thing on his mind and even by 1%, it will still affect his mentality and purpose to win the fight against Canelo. He said in the interview that he has families and friends living in both Russia and Ukraine and those who live in the latter are always on his mind as they are the ones being attacked. Even he is a professional boxer, he's still a human being after all.

Since it's about months to go before the fight, I hope something miraculous will happen and will put an end to the ongoing conflict between Putin and Ukraine. Bivol and other Russian athletes will surely be happy about that and can remain focused now on their goals.
I also surely hope so that the conflict between Ukraine and Russia would end sooner not just because of Bivol's incoming but for those people who are in the middle of this conflicts and that Putin would come to his senses that it's not just the Ukrainian are victims but also his own citizens as well because the world leaders are putting tough sanctions to the Russia.

We cannot take away Bivol's feelings here even if he is a professional boxer because no one has been trained to go deaf or blind in this conflict, so as an ordinary human being, it's only natural that he is worried about his family, friends and relatives and sadly that will make a toll in his upcoming fight.

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April 02, 2022, 05:52:35 PM
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I definitely agree about that, these two boxers doesn't hold any grudge on each other nor they are representing Ukraine and Russia. Bivol and Canelo are just two famous boxers who are fighting for the belt and championship, the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.
I think moving the fight to Dubai could make sense, probably this is something that Canelo is not very happy about as there are a lot of Mexicans living at the US so he would be guaranteed to have the support of the public if the match took place there, but since the attendance could be compromised due to the nationality of Bivol then it makes sense to consider other avenues to hold the fight which will not have as much of a problem with the fact that Bivol is a Russian athlete.
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April 02, 2022, 07:08:27 PM
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I definitely agree about that, these two boxers doesn't hold any grudge on each other nor they are representing Ukraine and Russia. Bivol and Canelo are just two famous boxers who are fighting for the belt and championship, the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.
I think moving the fight to Dubai could make sense, probably this is something that Canelo is not very happy about as there are a lot of Mexicans living at the US so he would be guaranteed to have the support of the public if the match took place there, but since the attendance could be compromised due to the nationality of Bivol then it makes sense to consider other avenues to hold the fight which will not have as much of a problem with the fact that Bivol is a Russian athlete.

I doubt that the fight will be moved to Dubai though, the money to be made in in the US based on Canelo's fans. This is scheduled on Cinco de Mayo or at least in that week wherein they are celebrating that holiday.

I think the boxing fans just wanted to see a good fight regardless of Bivol's nationality. And maybe if Bivol will make it a very interesting fight, like what we expect of him, perhaps there will be no animosity but just for pure entertainment for us.
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April 02, 2022, 07:13:09 PM
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I definitely agree about that, these two boxers doesn't hold any grudge on each other nor they are representing Ukraine and Russia. Bivol and Canelo are just two famous boxers who are fighting for the belt and championship, the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.
I think moving the fight to Dubai could make sense, probably this is something that Canelo is not very happy about as there are a lot of Mexicans living at the US so he would be guaranteed to have the support of the public if the match took place there, but since the attendance could be compromised due to the nationality of Bivol then it makes sense to consider other avenues to hold the fight which will not have as much of a problem with the fact that Bivol is a Russian athlete.


If that will help to promote this fight better for the promoters to consider that possibilities, though you are right Alvarez will have good numbers of crowd/fans if ever the fight will take place around US, but in good faith and consideration, Dubai will be a good place possible
to lessen or completely no hate for Bivol since he's a Russian nationality.

Let's wait if that will be considered or what will be the decision of the promoters regarding to this avenue. Whatever it takes seeing both inside the ring will be enough to entertain the fans.

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April 03, 2022, 02:16:15 PM
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I definitely agree about that, these two boxers doesn't hold any grudge on each other nor they are representing Ukraine and Russia. Bivol and Canelo are just two famous boxers who are fighting for the belt and championship, the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.
I think moving the fight to Dubai could make sense, probably this is something that Canelo is not very happy about as there are a lot of Mexicans living at the US so he would be guaranteed to have the support of the public if the match took place there, but since the attendance could be compromised due to the nationality of Bivol then it makes sense to consider other avenues to hold the fight which will not have as much of a problem with the fact that Bivol is a Russian athlete.

I doubt that the fight will be moved to Dubai though, the money to be made in in the US based on Canelo's fans. This is scheduled on Cinco de Mayo or at least in that week wherein they are celebrating that holiday.

I think the boxing fans just wanted to see a good fight regardless of Bivol's nationality. And maybe if Bivol will make it a very interesting fight, like what we expect of him, perhaps there will be no animosity but just for pure entertainment for us.

I've read that before that they are considering to move this fight in UAE specifically in Dubai because of the said reasons as there is still conflict in Russia and Ukraine but when it's about money talks, they have figured out afterwards that it's more suitable if the fight will remain in its original location which is in Las Vegas.

By the way, the fight is on the 7th of May.

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April 04, 2022, 03:43:36 AM
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the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.

I don't think that's the situation today. People are not treating Bivol as the enemy. It's just that putting Bivol or any Russian athletes into something uncommon treatment (not a bad one) will put pressure on the Russian President as their sports representative and athletes are now affected.

Yes, it's 100% unfair to the Russian athletes as most of them are also against the ongoing conflict but most countries are doing their best to slow down Russia as this war is a sh*t and the conflict is just between the leader's pride and not country vs country.

Regardless of the venue, the fight will surely generate big revenue. Both boxers' names are big in the boxing industry and there will always be fans that will spend money to watch this fight. Champion vs Champion, it will be jampacked.

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April 04, 2022, 03:34:13 PM
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the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.

I don't think that's the situation today. People are not treating Bivol as the enemy. It's just that putting Bivol or any Russian athletes into something uncommon treatment (not a bad one) will put pressure on the Russian President as their sports representative and athletes are now affected.

Yes, it's 100% unfair to the Russian athletes as most of them are also against the ongoing conflict but most countries are doing their best to slow down Russia as this war is a sh*t and the conflict is just between the leader's pride and not country vs country.

Regardless of the venue, the fight will surely generate big revenue. Both boxers' names are big in the boxing industry and there will always be fans that will spend money to watch this fight. Champion vs Champion, it will be jampacked.
I think the situation about these Russian athletes/fighters have cooled down a bit because we are not seeing any news about them not able to participate their specific sports and just like this fight, the sanctioning bodies have imposed a heavy implementation about this but later on they have changed their mind. To sum it all, it's much better this way that they can now participate because these Russian fighters like Bivol doesn't either support their president on its action, so it's only fair and just that they can continue their careers.

The T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas will surely be packed by the supporters of Bivol and especially Canelo. No doubt about that.


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April 04, 2022, 03:42:45 PM
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the situation is just a coincidental which makes Bivol as the enemy in the eyes of people just because of the mere fact that he is Russian. Isn't that unfair? I think that's why they are considering to take this fight in Dubai because in that country, the people are neutral and have no beef on Bivol's nationality.

I don't think that's the situation today. People are not treating Bivol as the enemy. It's just that putting Bivol or any Russian athletes into something uncommon treatment (not a bad one) will put pressure on the Russian President as their sports representative and athletes are now affected.

Yes, it's 100% unfair to the Russian athletes as most of them are also against the ongoing conflict but most countries are doing their best to slow down Russia as this war is a sh*t and the conflict is just between the leader's pride and not country vs country.

Regardless of the venue, the fight will surely generate big revenue. Both boxers' names are big in the boxing industry and there will always be fans that will spend money to watch this fight. Champion vs Champion, it will be jampacked.
I think the situation about these Russian athletes/fighters have cooled down a bit because we are not seeing any news about them not able to participate their specific sports and just like this fight, the sanctioning bodies have imposed a heavy implementation about this but later on they have changed their mind. To sum it all, it's much better this way that they can now participate because these Russian fighters like Bivol doesn't either support their president on its action, so it's only fair and just that they can continue their careers.

The T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas will surely be packed by the supporters of Bivol and especially Canelo. No doubt about that.


The hatred calm down because people are realizing that a lot of Russians are not supporting Putin's. So when it comes to sports, everyone should be equal. I don't think they will change the venue as the fight is about a month from now. People who want to watch need to book their flights/tickets. So would be a mess if they will change the venue last minute. I believe, they won't change it anymore, unless very important consideration is on hand, that changing the venue is the only solution.
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The hatred calm down because people are realizing that a lot of Russians are not supporting Putin's. So when it comes to sports, everyone should be equal. I don't think they will change the venue as the fight is about a month from now. People who want to watch need to book their flights/tickets. So would be a mess if they will change the venue last minute. I believe, they won't change it anymore, unless very important consideration is on hand, that changing the venue is the only solution.

You got a good point, not all the Russians are supporting the action of their leaders, they don't have options and in regard to sport athlete needs to perform and put away any personal concerns, considering the location it would be messed just like what you have said, those who wanted to watch the live fight needs to book their tickets it will be another expense maybe they will only consider that change if there's pressure that will force them to do so.

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I just encounter an article stating that if Canelo Alvarez will lose this fight, it will immediately remove the possibility of him taking on Gennadiy Golovkin in a trilogy match on September 17th. It means the progress of the trilogy between Canelo and GGG is now in the process and the pre-requisite of it is Canelo winning against Bivol even though not mentioned, GGG should also win against Murata.

I don't mind GGG as I'm sure he can take Murata but Canelo has a big task as he's fighting against a fellow prime boxer and a champion too. Bivol also sees a chance by some analysts that he can upset Canelo thru the right timing.

Canelo vs. Bivol: What if Alvarez LOSES to Dmitry?

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I just encounter an article stating that if Canelo Alvarez will lose this fight, it will immediately remove the possibility of him taking on Gennadiy Golovkin in a trilogy match on September 17th. It means the progress of the trilogy between Canelo and GGG is now in the process and the pre-requisite of it is Canelo winning against Bivol even though not mentioned, GGG should also win against Murata.

I don't mind GGG as I'm sure he can take Murata but Canelo has a big task as he's fighting against a fellow prime boxer and a champion too. Bivol also sees a chance by some analysts that he can upset Canelo thru the right timing.

Canelo vs. Bivol: What if Alvarez LOSES to Dmitry?

Interesting to read some comments there. Cheesy

Hmm interesting article, thanks for sharing!

Yes it's true that Canelo have more burden than GGG fighting against Murata who don't have any special abilities. IMO, Canelo's chance to be defeated is also the same chance that he can win, both of them is still in their prime but the only difference is that Bivol haven't tasted defeat yet and I'm seeing that as his strength. This is a fight of Champion vs Champion so it's a most anticipated fight not just because Canelo is there fighting but because this is a fight where he's getting tested by the Russian boxer.

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There’s nothing wrong with Canelo being ambitious, but he has over judged what he’s capable of. Some would argue that Canelo’s recent wins over the weak group of champions at 168 have fueled his ego, giving him a false perception of what he can do.
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April 06, 2022, 08:37:19 AM
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^^ Hmm, not the first article that I read that thinks that Bivol has a good chance to beat Canelo. But it's a prime Canelo that Bivol is going to face, he has been in this division before and can carry his power up to the 175 lbs. So I'm not sure what this boxing writers are saying after all. Of course, Bivol is good no doubt, but he hasn't face any competition such as Canelo so he might be surprise as how good Alvarez is and he might not have a chance to adjust and react to it.
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This writer is predicting that Bivol will wreck Canelo and make an example of what happens to a fighter who attempts to overreach his physical boundaries.

Not entirely true. I've seen someone who have been into 8 different weight division and wreck  every single one of them. Well, maybe he didn't became the example of a fighter who attempts to overreach physical boundaries lol.
Canelo doesn't just being ambitious on climbing the weight division ladder, but he rather have to challenge his physical limits. I mean true fighter don't just stay in a division where nobody can beat him.
That statement from the writter is nothing but pure hate towards Canelo.

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April 06, 2022, 09:39:02 AM
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This writer is predicting that Bivol will wreck Canelo and make an example of what happens to a fighter who attempts to overreach his physical boundaries.

Not entirely true. I've seen someone who have been into 8 different weight division and wreck  every single one of them. Well, maybe he didn't became the example of a fighter who attempts to overreach physical boundaries lol.
Canelo doesn't just being ambitious on climbing the weight division ladder, but he rather have to challenge his physical limits. I mean true fighter don't just stay in a division where nobody can beat him.
That statement from the writter is nothing but pure hate towards Canelo.

As the saying goes, "you can't please everybody", and this is so true with Canelo. I mean he has reached so many accolades already, cleaning up the division, meaning multiple belts and could become Mexico's GOAT. So it will be obvious that someone will hate as to what he has accomplished already. Maybe the writer has some inside of him and he is destroying Canelo in his article. Nevertheless, we all know that Canelo is far more superior, not even Bivol might have a chance against him.

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~snip~
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This writer is predicting that Bivol will wreck Canelo and make an example of what happens to a fighter who attempts to overreach his physical boundaries.

Not entirely true. I've seen someone who have been into 8 different weight division and wreck  every single one of them. Well, maybe he didn't became the example of a fighter who attempts to overreach physical boundaries lol.
Canelo doesn't just being ambitious on climbing the weight division ladder, but he rather have to challenge his physical limits. I mean true fighter don't just stay in a division where nobody can beat him.
That statement from the writter is nothing but pure hate towards Canelo.

As the saying goes, "you can't please everybody", and this is so true with Canelo. I mean he has reached so many accolades already, cleaning up the division, meaning multiple belts and could become Mexico's GOAT. So it will be obvious that someone will hate as to what he has accomplished already. Maybe the writer has some inside of him and he is destroying Canelo in his article. Nevertheless, we all know that Canelo is far more superior, not even Bivol might have a chance against him.

Correct! That's common whatever era we're in, there would be that someone out there who just hates whatever you do and everything you had accomplished doesn't really matter to them, it's like that they don't want you to be successful in life. And as of Canelo's case, he have this writer that really hates him and doesn't believe what he accomplished even if it's really clear in the picture.

Both of them will be tested as they're both champions but Canelo is much more superior. You cannot be an undisputed champion if you're not that strong and skilled.
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This writer is predicting that Bivol will wreck Canelo and make an example of what happens to a fighter who attempts to overreach his physical boundaries.

Not entirely true. I've seen someone who have been into 8 different weight division and wreck  every single one of them. Well, maybe he didn't became the example of a fighter who attempts to overreach physical boundaries lol.
Canelo doesn't just being ambitious on climbing the weight division ladder, but he rather have to challenge his physical limits. I mean true fighter don't just stay in a division where nobody can beat him.
That statement from the writter is nothing but pure hate towards Canelo.

As the saying goes, "you can't please everybody", and this is so true with Canelo. I mean he has reached so many accolades already, cleaning up the division, meaning multiple belts and could become Mexico's GOAT. So it will be obvious that someone will hate as to what he has accomplished already. Maybe the writer has some inside of him and he is destroying Canelo in his article. Nevertheless, we all know that Canelo is far more superior, not even Bivol might have a chance against him.
And even if he happened to lose who cares? I personally prefer someone that tries their hardest to improve and it is not afraid to lose than someone that is undefeated at their weight class and he is always looking at the best possible match for himself, looking at you Mayweather, not only the attitude is preferable this will also give us more interesting fights to watch, and is not that what we want as fans of boxing? As an example, Pacquiao gave Marquez a chance for a fourth fight despite winning 2 and drawing one, he lost the fourth one in a spectacular fashion but still I think we can appreciate the fact we could see a classic like that thanks to the fact Manny was not afraid to fight Marquez again.
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Correct! That's common whatever era we're in, there would be that someone out there who just hates whatever you do and everything you had accomplished doesn't really matter to them, it's like that they don't want you to be successful in life. And as of Canelo's case, he have this writer that really hates him and doesn't believe what he accomplished even if it's really clear in the picture.

Both of them will be tested as they're both champions but Canelo is much more superior. You cannot be an undisputed champion if you're not that strong and skilled.

Like what you just mentioned, it's clear that Canelo already achieved things that most boxers wanted to have, the writer is not in his right mind or just trying to attack Canelo to engaged with more possible readers, it's true that not all we can please especially for well-known personalities, there are still people who will hate you and will try to bring negative things on you.

Moving back to the fight, Canelo will again try to empress his fans, showing his skills when both fighters are already inside the ring.

Hope to see Bivol fighting toe-to-toe and try even harder to win this match.

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Correct! That's common whatever era we're in, there would be that someone out there who just hates whatever you do and everything you had accomplished doesn't really matter to them, it's like that they don't want you to be successful in life. And as of Canelo's case, he have this writer that really hates him and doesn't believe what he accomplished even if it's really clear in the picture.

Both of them will be tested as they're both champions but Canelo is much more superior. You cannot be an undisputed champion if you're not that strong and skilled.

Like what you just mentioned, it's clear that Canelo already achieved things that most boxers wanted to have, the writer is not in his right mind or just trying to attack Canelo to engaged with more possible readers, it's true that not all we can please especially for well-known personalities, there are still people who will hate you and will try to bring negative things on you.

Moving back to the fight, Canelo will again try to empress his fans, showing his skills when both fighters are already inside the ring.

Hope to see Bivol fighting toe-to-toe and try even harder to win this match.
We don't have to worry about that as Canelo is surely used about that already and the most important thing is that he have his own legacy that no one could deny that he is one of the best boxer in the industry and yes an undisputed boxer that not any ordinary boxer can attain.

We can already expect that this would be a good and entertaining fight with full of explosive punches while trying not to be knocked down first. As of Bivol, he is going to defend his title at all cost and I surely bet that he will give Canelo a nice fight.

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Correct! That's common whatever era we're in, there would be that someone out there who just hates whatever you do and everything you had accomplished doesn't really matter to them, it's like that they don't want you to be successful in life. And as of Canelo's case, he have this writer that really hates him and doesn't believe what he accomplished even if it's really clear in the picture.

Both of them will be tested as they're both champions but Canelo is much more superior. You cannot be an undisputed champion if you're not that strong and skilled.

Like what you just mentioned, it's clear that Canelo already achieved things that most boxers wanted to have, the writer is not in his right mind or just trying to attack Canelo to engaged with more possible readers, it's true that not all we can please especially for well-known personalities, there are still people who will hate you and will try to bring negative things on you.

Moving back to the fight, Canelo will again try to empress his fans, showing his skills when both fighters are already inside the ring.

Hope to see Bivol fighting toe-to-toe and try even harder to win this match.
We don't have to worry about that as Canelo is surely used about that already and the most important thing is that he have his own legacy that no one could deny that he is one of the best boxer in the industry and yes an undisputed boxer that not any ordinary boxer can attain.

We can already expect that this would be a good and entertaining fight with full of explosive punches while trying not to be knocked down first. As of Bivol, he is going to defend his title at all cost and I surely bet that he will give Canelo a nice fight.

I highly agree, he have his records that can back him up for those who are doubting at him and Canelo is already accustomed to it, it's not that he was just born yesterday for him not to used about that noise.

Anyway, back to the topic. I think this will not be an easy road for Canelo as he will about to face the defending champion of this division, Dmitry Bivol. But I don't have doubts that he can figure it out somewhere between each round how to defeat Bivol, just like he did into his previous fights.

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