China says it will trade normally with Russia

[TheNineClub]

China not stopping trading with Russia is not a surprise all that much. Actually, what surprised me was that China withheld its content for Russia, staying basically neutral regarding a UN condemnation, and that actually speaks volumes on that China will not have Russia's back. But with 50% of Russia's GDP coming from trading with Europe, continuous trading with China will not change all that much in the end. It would have been better, yes, but it won't really save Russia.

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[Johnyz]

China not stopping trading with Russia is not a surprise all that much. Actually, what surprised me was that China withheld its content for Russia, staying basically neutral regarding a UN condemnation, and that actually speaks volumes on that China will not have Russia's back. But with 50% of Russia's GDP coming from trading with Europe, continuous trading with China will not change all that much in the end. It would have been better, yes, but it won't really save Russia.

Chinese banks also imposes some restrictions against Russia but not that much, they remain neutral since China also have dealings with Ukraine and seriously, they are also afraid for the western sanctions so they can’t fully support Russia on their decision to declare war with Ukraine. China also need Russia because as far as I know, they are also suffering for some sanctions and they have to be more friendly with Russia so they can get the supplies they needed, they just can’t afford to intervene especially about the war.

[Findingnemo]

China makes more money by exporting goods all around the world so they never going to announce sanctions to any countries because it is going to affect their economic growth. And China is doing this for very long time with the neighbouring countries so they can't really speak out this is immoral.

[DoublerHunter]

China makes more money by exporting goods all around the world so they never going to announce sanctions to any countries because it is going to affect their economic growth. And China is doing this for very long time with the neighbouring countries so they can't really speak out this is immoral.

^ I like the mindset of the Chinese government they are very practical when it comes to business and make more money on it. We never know that the Chinese government also have to deal with Ukraine even though China was close to Russia, as we know that country of China is the main source of all goods all over the world. No wonder China trade normally in Russia because they are an allied country but China was not showing it because they are in business and trading goods is one of the sources of their economic growth. Just my opinion only.

[Webetcoins]

Lol sometimes I just feel China is some kind of a weird country. I am yet to fully understand what really led to this attack on Ukraine, haven’t really seen any news site that would break it down and state the actual reason why they are fighting. But whatever the reason may be, I am not the type of person that supports violence in anything, there are better ways I believe, which things can be done.

Anyways, like the White House has said, the E.U and US sanctions would be a big blow to Russia. But, I think they would have been far much dealt with if China should also do the same thing. Anyways, only China wouldn’t be enough, unless other countries happens to do likewise.

[kaya11]

I think it is how they show their side of being neutral. If they put sanctions on Russia, Putin will have a bad impression on them so they remain silent about it. Other countries too are like that, if they see China put sanctions and they don't, it's as if they are contradicting they idea ang giving their country bad impression to China, especially countries in SEA, which has current disputes on China. In case a WW3 breaks out, their friendly moves would bring a factor that they won't be a target andthey could go with other solution like diplomacy. It is just my opinion and if a Great leader loves his fellow citizens, he would do everything just let them survive, and we have that kind of leader.

[Gyfts]

Lol sometimes I just feel China is some kind of a weird country. I am yet to fully understand what really led to this attack on Ukraine, haven’t really seen any news site that would break it down and state the actual reason why they are fighting.

You could write a book on why Russia is invading Ukraine - to sum it up for you: Putin wants to maintain national security and relive the glory days of the USSR. Ukraine is getting too close to the west and might've been on the verge of joining NATO, and Putin does not want geopolitical pressure so close to his borders.

Anyway, we already knew China and Russia were indirect allies. This comes as no shock to anyone paying attention to China's foreign policy. China understands the Russian invasion will help them invade Taiwan because they recognize the international community is doing nothing to get involved. China will continue to strengthen their economy and sees no reason to stand diplomatically with the west. For reference, China still supplies North Korea, so their moral compass is exactly aligned with the rest of the world.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

One of the largest economy in the world could help to keep stability to Russia's economy? May be this will not be enough but it seems Putin have already planned for it. I saw a data where it shows Russia has 13% of their total reserve in Yuan. They knew a sanction will come so they reduce their dollar reserve to only 16%. A great move from Putin can not deny it.

Putin already has everything planned out. Before even the attack began he knew the westerners won't interfere and just incase any of them were thinking of doing something, he made a threatening statement to stop such ambition. This Ukraine and Russia war is more of like two siblings fighting and when that's the case you there not come between them as at the end of the day, they might settle and put all the blames on you. Russian is like a big brother to Ukraine, they can settle this if Ukraine wasn't trying to suck NATO's ass.

Russian are just reacting out of paranoid because if they were to lose Ukraine to the NATO then that'll mean they'll be having military personnel and equipment from their enemies inches away from their country which isn't safe. China has no issue with Russia mainly because they don't roll with the westerners. What ever sanctions they implemented doesn't concerned them. They have nothing to gain from the sanctions instead they have all to gain if the westerners were to stop trading with Russia.

[mindrust]

What did you expect? You thought China was going to sanction Russia too? China is about to invade Taiwan and soon they will themselves in a similar situation like Russia. It is natural for China to ignore Russia. China, Russia, Iran block can survive forever even if they don't do any trades with the west but can the west survive without the Russian gas&oil? We will see.

[macson]

We all know how Russia's relationship with China, China's relationship with the US and Russia's relationship with the US are, so the war between ukraine and russia will have no effect on china.  China and Russia are strong allies, Besides that, the products of Russia ^{(gas and oil)} are very tempting to many countries.  the US sanctions on Russia must be very happy for China.

[TimeTeller]

What did you expect? You thought China was going to sanction Russia too? China is about to invade Taiwan and soon they will themselves in a similar situation like Russia. It is natural for China to ignore Russia. China, Russia, Iran block can survive forever even if they don't do any trades with the west but can the west survive without the Russian gas&oil? We will see.

There's no surprise about China's reaction towards this war as they are known to be allies.
And yes, it is true, Russia is just ahead of this invasion. Because China has long been eyeing of this possible Taiwan invasion.
Russia and China are the biggest countries in the world (top 1 & 3, respectively), so high possibility that they can survive on their own.
So even if with this impending cut off in SWIFT with Russia, I believe, Putin already considered this scenario and he has back up plans already.
He wants to go all in in this war, so he knows what he's doing and he's prepared for these possible consequences.
We will see the impact maybe after a month or two after this invasion. Their people will be the most affected on this war crisis.

[savetheFORUM]

China not stopping trading with Russia is not a surprise all that much. Actually, what surprised me was that China withheld its content for Russia, staying basically neutral regarding a UN condemnation, and that actually speaks volumes on that China will not have Russia's back. But with 50% of Russia's GDP coming from trading with Europe, continuous trading with China will not change all that much in the end. It would have been better, yes, but it won't really save Russia.

China is doing so for their economy I guess, they would rather stay neutral and maintain their business since they are mainly into exportation which is a big source for their economy.

But, china buying wheat from Russia is not enough, other countries that makes the most order has decided to cut them off, so that would definitely make a better impact in their GDP, than whatever impact china would make from their import. Remember that it is not just only Europe, but the US as well, and there are also others and more to come, so it is just a matter of time before they begin to feel the heat.

[el kaka22]

Trading normally would be something okay, nobody expects them to have sanctions. As long as China is not overtly and openly supporting Russia and their claims on Ukraine, there is no problem in this situation. I am quite happy that China (which I despise normally) do not really approach this situation as a way to "stick it to west". They love to do that, they keep talking about how much they hate Americans and Europeans, and so does the politicians on the other side do it to Chinese, and then they make deals and have trades because billionaires need each other.

In order for the rich people to make money, they need to build stuff in China and sell in the west. So, China needs to keep it kosher with west, but also show no disconnect with Russia as well.

[cabron]

China not stopping trading with Russia is not a surprise all that much. Actually, what surprised me was that China withheld its content for Russia, staying basically neutral regarding a UN condemnation, and that actually speaks volumes on that China will not have Russia's back. But with 50% of Russia's GDP coming from trading with Europe, continuous trading with China will not change all that much in the end. It would have been better, yes, but it won't really save Russia.

China is doing so for their economy I guess, they would rather stay neutral and maintain their business since they are mainly into exportation which is a big source for their economy.

But, china buying wheat from Russia is not enough, other countries that makes the most order has decided to cut them off, so that would definitely make a better impact in their GDP, than whatever impact china would make from their import. Remember that it is not just only Europe, but the US as well, and there are also others and more to come, so it is just a matter of time before they begin to feel the heat.

China will make business whoever makes things convenient to them. When Trump sanctioned China in thier trade war, they also felt the negative effect but thier businesses with other countries still go on, particularly with Russia. The sanctions made these countries more resilient and found ways to be sanctioned proof. They didn't change thier system of doing business.

Sanctions hurt thier economy for a while after that, they get used to it and find ways. Like when we were kids that got grounded but after it, we as kids found ways not to get caught again.

[Findingnemo]

China makes more money by exporting goods all around the world so they never going to announce sanctions to any countries because it is going to affect their economic growth. And China is doing this for very long time with the neighbouring countries so they can't really speak out this is immoral.

^ I like the mindset of the Chinese government they are very practical when it comes to business and make more money on it. We never know that the Chinese government also have to deal with Ukraine even though China was close to Russia, as we know that country of China is the main source of all goods all over the world. No wonder China trade normally in Russia because they are an allied country but China was not showing it because they are in business and trading goods is one of the sources of their economic growth. Just my opinion only.

They seems to be neutral even though they are on the side of Russia and they are going to trade with everyone since they can make more money by doing it. Meanwhile if the war continues for long then this will be the spark of third world war if I am not wrong and probably the beginning of human extinction since we all have nuclear weapons.

[Mometaskers]

Coz China currently have no problems with Russia, there's really no reason for it to stop trading. In fact, China might benefit from this arrangement. Sanctions would basically push Russia towards China, same way that North Korea ended up. NoKor basically dump their raw goods for cheap on China coz they can't sell it to anyone else.

And what is the EU and NATO going to do to China anyway? It's not like they'd sanction it too just for continuing what it has always done.

[Sterbens]

Coz China currently have no problems with Russia, there's really no reason for it to stop trading. In fact, China might benefit from this arrangement. Sanctions would basically push Russia towards China, same way that North Korea ended up. NoKor basically dump their raw goods for cheap on China coz they can't sell it to anyone else.

And what is the EU and NATO going to do to China anyway? It's not like they'd sanction it too just for continuing what it has always done.

China and Russia are allies who both want to strangle the US little by little. See what sectors Russia wants to re-establish? The Soviet Union seemed about to be awakened from its long slumber. Not necessarily Russia's sovereignty is supported by China because it does have the same goal. Where Russia invades Ukraine and China will invade Taiwan in the very near future. Depending on how Russia's position is now unstoppable, even NATO doesn't really want to go any further in Russia and Ukraine.

The trade war has been running since the era of world war 2 ended and that's when China built big aggression to conquer the US. What do we see? The US is too follow-up for now under Biden.

[qwertyup23]

China makes more money by exporting goods all around the world so they never going to announce sanctions to any countries because it is going to affect their economic growth. And China is doing this for very long time with the neighbouring countries so they can't really speak out this is immoral.

I definitely agree with your statement.

With China being the number one country for exporting not only products but also manpower, I doubt that countries would impose sanctions as they also benefit from this country. With manpower and labor relatively cheap for doing business, countries around the world rely on China in assembling their products or doing labor for the production of their goods.

China has all the power to at least trade normally with Russia as they are confident enough to understand that other countries need them also.

[arallmuus]

From the above, it does not look like China has any intentions of joining the mass in imposing sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine a couple of days ago. If China takes this direction, wouldn't it also encourage other countries to do likewise

Its because China also has the intention of 'invading' or taking back Taiwan so it would feel funny to impose sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine when they will do the same thing in the near future. Aside from that, China mostly do the opposite of what the US and europe do just to show that they have the supremacy to do so

Russian is like a big brother to Ukraine, they can settle this if Ukraine wasn't trying to suck NATO's ass.

Both Russia and NATO ( US ) are sly dogs that wants something from Ukraine. This could have taken the other way around instead of going for the war option

Russian are just reacting out of paranoid because if they were to lose Ukraine to the NATO then that'll mean they'll be having military personnel and equipment from their enemies inches away from their country which isn't safe.

The fact is that even if they occupied Ukraine somehow, they will be inches away from NATO as well because they will need to relocate some of their military to safe guard the occupied area otherwise it would be taken back

[lixer]

I like the mindset of the Chinese government they are very practical when it comes to business and make more money on it. We never know that the Chinese government also have to deal with Ukraine even though China was close to Russia, as we know that country of China is the main source of all goods all over the world. No wonder China trade normally in Russia because they are an allied country but China was not showing it because they are in business and trading goods is one of the sources of their economic growth. Just my opinion only.

Even though we don't know the deal between Ukraine and china but I guess China is treating it the same as they treat Russia and other countries. They think about their business and won't do any bad thing that will affect it but china as the main source of other countries? No I don't think so because every country has their specialty or there are only specific goods that can be found here but not on the other.

Even if china won't show their closeness with Russia, we can still figure it out because there are witnesses and they can spread the information that they see between these two countries online. They can't keep it a secret.