China says it will trade normally with Russia

[oHnK]

Putin is one of the smartest presidents in my opinion because no matter how their economic condition is sanctioned by the world, they will still survive because Europe's oil supply is 40% supported by Russia.  How can a decision that Europe has taken not be so fatal to Russia?  That's because Russia's preparations to face this condition have actually been able to bear the existing burden.  Assess the effect of the United Nations on the country of influence.

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[Captain Corporate]

 Except, for the fact that the Russian economy is tanking, the ruble is tanking, the stock market is not open for obvious reason but the moment it is then it will crash and people will see the reality of how much, which will drop the ruble even more. The fact that people can't take more than 10k dollars out of their nation, the people who study abroad are sent back, the teams are kicked off the competitions, and many many many more sanctions are laid onto them. I am sorry but if you think that Putin is managing this well, then you are ignorant to all the things that are happening right now in Russia as well as all the future threats to the people of it as well. Putin may do fine, and some oligarchs maybe do fine in the end, but regular people are suffering because of the decisions Putin made, who is someone people did not vote for and get elected in fraud elections.

[wxa7115]

The Chinese leadership have always been close to Russia and it is mostly a one way trade. The only thing that Russia has to offer China is natural resources and China will happily take advantage of the situation, but Russia will earn a fraction of the amount they could be selling oil and gas for in Europe. Beyond energy supplies and probably a few other commodities, Russia is useless to China. China is playing a strategic game, where they make the most from Europe and USA, but want to keep a convenient dictatorship in power to agitate these countries. If the opportunity ever arises, probably necessitating neutralizing nuclear weapons, then China would take over Russia in a heart beat. The are friends of convenience, but it can be dropped by either side in a second if it becomes useful to re-align.

The Chinese government has a very clear idea of what they want to do and it is clear they never had any intention of sanctioning their ally, and if anything they may even offer support to Russia as a way to try to strengthen their economy.

To me this is a very clever strategy by the Chinese, while both the US, their allies and Russia get weaker due to the sanctions, China does not suffer at all and keeps growing and becoming stronger while they bid their time and wait until they can make their own strategic moves.

[KennyR]

Putin is one of the smartest presidents in my opinion because no matter how their economic condition is sanctioned by the world, they will still survive because Europe's oil supply is 40% supported by Russia.  How can a decision that Europe has taken not be so fatal to Russia?  That's because Russia's preparations to face this condition have actually been able to bear the existing burden.  Assess the effect of the United Nations on the country of influence.

Putin isn't the smartest. If he's smart enough, then he might've made other plans to restrict Ukraine, but what he did all of the sudden is the reality of his smartness. European nations were much dependent on Russia, now closing the doors will cause European countries a big blow. Always there will be neighbouring countries. So the oil and gas deal will happen through a third country that acquires and sells back to European nations.

[Similificator]

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The thing that triggered Russia is the application of Ukraine for NATO which is absolutely their right as an independent country. Russia sees this as a threat since the US and NATO has been expanding to the east a lot over the years and even got missile assembly on poland and Romania. I may not know a lot of things though, this is just how I understood things with what I have read. And of course no country leader wouldn't protect its countrymen, if not for the sake of the people, then for the sake of own's ego or legacy. And this very ego is what led US to do more than what they have already done.

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I sure hope that it really doesn't escalate to another world war. About the supplying, indeed there are supplies, the problem is manpower. No one wants to send any troops to help Ukraine because this may just lead into an all out war and may just turn into ww3. Russian government won't easily fire at anyone unless it really is necessary IMO, they already have enough problems in their hands so to speak.

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No one is naive and they are well aware of their actions. And even if there is really a benefit in blaming sides, I doubt it would change things as they already are nor bring back the lives and properties lost. China is a freaking bully. South china sea barely even counts as theirs territory wise. Even the tribunal ruling says so but they still insist on what they want like they don't care at all. Now although Russia and China are in good terms at the moment, I don't think it is an enough reason for Russia to openly support China. It would mean more problems for Russia by then.

[oHnK]

Putin is one of the smartest presidents in my opinion because no matter how their economic condition is sanctioned by the world, they will still survive because Europe's oil supply is 40% supported by Russia.  How can a decision that Europe has taken not be so fatal to Russia?  That's because Russia's preparations to face this condition have actually been able to bear the existing burden.  Assess the effect of the United Nations on the country of influence.

Putin isn't the smartest. If he's smart enough, then he might've made other plans to restrict Ukraine, but what he did all of the sudden is the reality of his smartness. European nations were much dependent on Russia, now closing the doors will cause European countries a big blow. Always there will be neighbouring countries. So the oil and gas deal will happen through a third country that acquires and sells back to European nations.

What ways can Russia take if the security of its country is disturbed by NATO by getting closer to Ukraine, if the Ukrainian president chooses a neutral path and does not take sides, Putin will not take this worst decision.  The invasion that was carried out would also have an impact on the people, the economic sanctions that occurred even though the Russian government must have thought of a solution still made it difficult for the people.  The Ukrainian president is also too egotistical so that the people are the most disadvantaged.  NATO does not need to be approached, so what?  at least they are independent that they have to ask for security protection from NATO.

[bittraffic]

China will not invade Taiwan, its already China. The people in Taiwan are Chinese themselves, been there same in Hongkong. Seeing the distruction of war, the Chinese would prefer Taiwan to join with them intact since the world needs the production of micro chips which China also wants to grab the market.

If they will plan a strtegy, Xijinping will rather prolong the war in Ukraine by supporting Putin with whats needed for their country to last for months to years so the whole Europe will feel the effect of sanctions. They know Europe is on the crossroad when they decide in supporting Ukraine.

[Sterbens]

The thing that triggered Russia is the application of Ukraine for NATO which is absolutely their right as an independent country. Russia sees this as a threat since the US and NATO has been expanding to the east a lot over the years and even got missile assembly on poland and Romania. I may not know a lot of things though, this is just how I understood things with what I have read. And of course no country leader wouldn't protect its countrymen, if not for the sake of the people, then for the sake of own's ego or legacy. And this very ego is what led US to do more than what they have already done.

If we see later that it is a bright spot that Russia has provoked NATO, including the US, to intervene, then Russia has a strong reason to launch an attack on NATO countries. If indeed insist on taking Ukraine to join. It seems we are all getting tired of how news stories are everywhere about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And not a few witnessed the impact felt by the citizens of Ukraine and Russia itself who experienced heavy sanctions. until I saw some Russian citizens say the prices of basic commodities and food have increased dramatically in the market due to the sanctions imposed by European countries.

[iv4n]

From the above, it does not look like China has any intentions of joining the mass in imposing sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine a couple of days ago. If China takes this direction, wouldn't it also encourage other countries to do likewise

Its because China also has the intention of 'invading' or taking back Taiwan so it would feel funny to impose sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine when they will do the same thing in the near future. Aside from that, China mostly do the opposite of what the US and europe do just to show that they have the supremacy to do so.

There's no way for China to join the boycott! As Arallmuus says, they have their goals set long ago... and I also agree that this could happen in the near future for China to take a step towards Taiwan! It would not be strange at all for them to do that soon, while the US is focused on Europe and Ukraine! But who will know what's in their heads, China is playing smart in the last decades, they are spreading their influence where they can, showing teeth here and there! On top of all that they like to counter the Americans in any way, whenever they can, to me it seems impossible for China to make a move against Russia!

[Viscore]

That’s because they and other countries like India, China and one more is there are directly involved in strategic partnerships with USA, UK and Russia. The thing is, if they give direct support to Russia or if they don’t support Russia they will get negative impression from both side.

I mean they have proper business and proper treaties with all the nations above so why would they show their support directly?

It’s not like they are gonna work normally with them, it’s just that they have commercial relationships with many countries and they do not want to be part of the WAR and any decisions made thereafter.

These countries are allies and sanctions will not let them interfere despite many countries will join in giving sanctions but these countries are more focus in their business and that they know how the economy will be affected. Russia in other ways know these at first that China will still support them even there are many countries who will against them.

Yeah, its all about business. China is a businessman and they jusf want to make money. They dont hold a gun to anyone's head and make them sign deals. Bags of cash maybe but not force Aside from that China is already Russia's primary trading partner. Sanctions or no sanction that will no change for a long time. As long as Russia provides China with cheap natural gas, nothing will happen to their relationship.

[CaVO32]

That’s because they and other countries like India, China and one more is there are directly involved in strategic partnerships with USA, UK and Russia. The thing is, if they give direct support to Russia or if they don’t support Russia they will get negative impression from both side.

I mean they have proper business and proper treaties with all the nations above so why would they show their support directly?

It’s not like they are gonna work normally with them, it’s just that they have commercial relationships with many countries and they do not want to be part of the WAR and any decisions made thereafter.

These countries are allies and sanctions will not let them interfere despite many countries will join in giving sanctions but these countries are more focus in their business and that they know how the economy will be affected. Russia in other ways know these at first that China will still support them even there are many countries who will against them.

Yeah, its all about business. China is a businessman and they jusf want to make money. They dont hold a gun to anyone's head and make them sign deals. Bags of cash maybe but not force Aside from that China is already Russia's primary trading partner. Sanctions or no sanction that will no change for a long time. As long as Russia provides China with cheap natural gas, nothing will happen to their relationship.

Maybe, this is the reason why Putin is confident about waging war with Ukraine because if nothing else, China is still on their side and they will survive even if all the other countries in the world will sanction them. But the ones who is suffering from this war, are the people under his regime. I am thinking that maybe sooner, these Russian people will have an uprising against Putin. If their people will unite, I think, they can remove Putin from his throne.

[jhonjhon]

That’s because they and other countries like India, China and one more is there are directly involved in strategic partnerships with USA, UK and Russia. The thing is, if they give direct support to Russia or if they don’t support Russia they will get negative impression from both side.

I mean they have proper business and proper treaties with all the nations above so why would they show their support directly?

It’s not like they are gonna work normally with them, it’s just that they have commercial relationships with many countries and they do not want to be part of the WAR and any decisions made thereafter.

These countries are allies and sanctions will not let them interfere despite many countries will join in giving sanctions but these countries are more focus in their business and that they know how the economy will be affected. Russia in other ways know these at first that China will still support them even there are many countries who will against them.

Yeah, its all about business. China is a businessman and they jusf want to make money. They dont hold a gun to anyone's head and make them sign deals. Bags of cash maybe but not force Aside from that China is already Russia's primary trading partner. Sanctions or no sanction that will no change for a long time. As long as Russia provides China with cheap natural gas, nothing will happen to their relationship.

Thats correct. With or without sanction on Russia, China will always purchase gas and oil from Russia. Therefore gas from Russia is absolutely necessary. Its on China's interest to secure a safe supply of gas from a friendly country.

And besides it is not China's fight. Both Russia and Ukraine are friend of China. China has no reason to suppport the war between the friends. And its very hard to take side when conflict happened and both side is your friend. What a friend only can do now is to defuse the tension rather than giving a weapons to create more harm.

[Frengki_cisco]

I think china understands russia is the biggest asset for china in trade especially Economy, where we know china is expert in trade.

In fact china has always avoided war, they prefer economic business to war, almost all countries have debts to china, the goal, other countries are reluctant to make war on china.

[noormcs5]

I think it was disastrous but that the US got yeeted out of Afghanistan was a blessing for them. They wouldn't be able to fight to preserve both Europe and Taiwan. I think China would wait until Russia breaks out of Ukraine into say, Poland, before it will attack Taiwan. That way the US would be stretched thin. It does heavylifting in NATO and in Asia its only partner that would fight to help defend Taiwan would be Japan.

Talking about the US and Afghanistan, the answer is that the US has suffered heavy losses and has produced nothing. What remains are only innocent victims, launching accusations from Western Intelligence who for years turned out to be gravely mistaken by disappointing information. That's the reason the US withdrew and had no intention of going to war against Afghanistan.
As we know at this time, NATO is still carrying out normal actions, namely guarding the borders of NATO countries. It means waiting for Russia to fish or indeed waiting to be provoked. Despite all that, I keep my ears open and hope that Ukraine will return soon under better conditions. There is still a peaceful path if you don't want any more victims to die in vain for following the selfishness of the two presidents. Regarding China, they will also invade Taiwan, the information is like that and it will definitely not be far from what Russia is doing.

Well that's pretty much what they can only do anyway. Haven't checked the news again but I suppose NATO is still playing safe and just preparing in case Putin gets greedy and launch attacks with its puppet Belarus.

And yes China will invade Taiwan, it's not a matter of if but of when. People just keep mentioning it since China can take the opportunity if NATO get its hands tied up in Ukraine and it breaks out into a larger conflict.

China and russia are friends and therefore china won't ban russian product and services. The world is divided into two parts, one who stands with russia and the other who stands with ukriane (USA + NATO).

If there is a nuclear war, then everyone will jump in and chinese will invade the taiwan. Lets see how this situation develops in march as this month will decide the fate for rest of the months and years to come.

[Sithara007]

I think china understands russia is the biggest asset for china in trade especially Economy, where we know china is expert in trade.

In fact china has always avoided war, they prefer economic business to war, almost all countries have debts to china, the goal, other countries are reluctant to make war on china.

China is one of the countries that always benefits from warfare. They are experts in stepping on two boats at the same time. Right now they are giving an impression that they are on the side of Russia. Now they will bargain hard with NATO and get additional relaxations from them in order to take a stricter stance against Russia. On the other hand, they will bargain with Russia and its allies like Belarus, and will make sure that Russia sells them crude oil, natural gas and other mineral resources at rates much below the normal market price.

[Obito]

That's expected, they're both a communist country so I am not surprised that they will be continuing as it is, and it's worth noting that China is known to always screw with Western powers because they've been able to do it for a long time now and they're unstoppable in doing so. This might be a big help to Russia to continue their campaign despite the economic sanctions.

[Sir Legend]

I think china understands russia is the biggest asset for china in trade especially Economy, where we know china is expert in trade.

In fact china has always avoided war, they prefer economic business to war, almost all countries have debts to china, the goal, other countries are reluctant to make war on china.

Other countries are reluctant to go to war with China because of their high dependence on China, almost all products from China are spread to the world, another thing about China is that by normal trading with Russia, you will get high profits, especially China is a country that borders directly with Russia. easy and low cost.

[moneystery]

Putin is one of the smartest presidents in my opinion because no matter how their economic condition is sanctioned by the world, they will still survive because Europe's oil supply is 40% supported by Russia.  How can a decision that Europe has taken not be so fatal to Russia?  That's because Russia's preparations to face this condition have actually been able to bear the existing burden.  Assess the effect of the United Nations on the country of influence.

putin is not a smart but cunning president, taking advantage of EU gas needs to be used as a shield is the devil's doing..

I would be very happy to hear putin burned by the Russian gas!
China and Russia are ruled by demons in human bodies, only money, power and terror they like..

[Sithara007]

Other countries are reluctant to go to war with China because of their high dependence on China, almost all products from China are spread to the world, another thing about China is that by normal trading with Russia, you will get high profits, especially China is a country that borders directly with Russia. easy and low cost.

China and Russia are natural allies. China is an energy consuming nation, while Russia is the top energy exporter in the world. Chinese factories need massive amount of natural resources such as iron ore, coal, aluminum, copper, manganese and other metals, while Russia is one of the top producers of these assets. And on the other hand, China is the manufacturing hub for electronics, household appliances, plastic products, textiles.etc, while Russia is one of the top importer of these commodities. Any economic partnership between these two countries will be extremely strong.

[mindrust]

Other countries are reluctant to go to war with China because of their high dependence on China, almost all products from China are spread to the world, another thing about China is that by normal trading with Russia, you will get high profits, especially China is a country that borders directly with Russia. easy and low cost.

China and Russia are natural allies. China is an energy consuming nation, while Russia is the top energy exporter in the world. Chinese factories need massive amount of natural resources such as iron ore, coal, aluminum, copper, manganese and other metals, while Russia is one of the top producers of these assets. And on the other hand, China is the manufacturing hub for electronics, household appliances, plastic products, textiles.etc, while Russia is one of the top importer of these commodities. Any economic partnership between these two countries will be extremely strong.

I wouldn't call them allies. In fact I don't think there are any alliances between countries. There are only partnerships and opportunities. China is ignoring Russia's actions because Russia is the enemy of their enemy (which is the US). Also, this creates an opportunity to get the Russian oil for nearly free. And there is even more, since they are about to invade Taiwan; soon they may find themselves in a similar situation so it makes sense to support a country which is already in this situation.