Extended Ranks Proposal

[Lucius]

This is a Bitcoin forum. I think it would be useful to know how many members actually believe in Bitcoin. Maybe a badge for all members who hold more than a certain level of Bitcoin. Perhaps 0.1 would be useful at its current value.

This would require everyone to sign a message from their BTC address, which would mean they have to sacrifice their privacy, and someone would have to check it all before the badge is awarded - it doesn’t seem very applicable.

Maybe there could be a badge for the longest BTC holder in signature campaigns - someone who hasn’t spent a satoshi in years - I know for sure there are such members

[Little Mouse]

someone would have to check it all before the badge is awarded - it doesn’t seem very applicable.

It can be automated. As long as "address" has BTC, they will have the badge, once they don't have BTC, badge will be removed. So, it will be changing everyday depending on the holding lol.
But still, this is something which people have to attach their address with the forum and make it public as you said people will have to sacrifice their privacy, I too agree this is something not a good idea. I'm not sure if Jet Cash did a joke here lol but his tone seems to be serious.

[noorman0]

Some farmers pump this rank in a short time. This rank has turned into something like a Newbie

There is no short time, the terms of the rank-up calculating time remain the same as 10 years ago. Anyway I haven't seen this one yet, and if you know when you said it there were a lot of members who were offended that until now they haven't gone 1 level higher since the start of 2018. Let alone wanting all of their accounts to rank up, they would even feel lucky if just one of their accounts made it to the new rank.

[Bitcoin SV]

There is no short time, the terms of the rank-up calculating time remain the same as 10 years ago. Anyway I haven't seen this one yet, and if you know when you said it there were a lot of members who were offended that until now they haven't gone 1 level higher since the start of 2018. Let alone wanting all of their accounts to rank up, they would even feel lucky if just one of their accounts made it to the new rank.

Have you noticed that some people reach Legendary rank on time. While others waiting a long time.
And all due to the fact that the Legendary rank does not have clearly defined requirements for activity.
Therefore, it is imperative to enter at least one more rank above Legendary

At now the Legendary rank achievement is very buggy

[Rikafip]

While it definitely is something that artificially changes the way users act, it does actually provide motivation. When there's a limited rank that only a select few will ever reach, then some genuine users will be motivated by that.

Yeah I understand that, but we have so many things already at our disposal to make distinction between power user and just some casual forum member. Right there on profile you can see someone else's activity and merit, and then if you have that browser extension you can see bpip ranking, DT status etc so is another rank really needed? And what when many people reach that rank, should we get new ones, making forum look like some endless mmorpg grind.

A long time ago Legendary rank sounded proud and divine. But now Legendary rank means nothing.

You mean back in the good ol' days where all you had to do is write one mindless shitpost each day (might as well been one of those bounty authentication posts) and in a couple of years you got Legendary rank. Classic rose-tinted glasses case.

Some farmers pump this rank in a short time. This rank has turned into something like a Newbie

In what universe is 2-3 years short period of time? You can farm as much merit as you want, but you can't speed the activity.

At now the Legendary rank achievement is very buggy

It's not buggy, it just has some RNG element to it. AFAIK, activity number needed to reach Legendary is decided when you create the account. I personally wouldn't mind if its fixed number like for other lower ranks, but don't mind this either. What's the rush anyway, is there something that you can do with Legendary that you can't with Hero rank?

[LeGaulois]

You propose news ranks but you don't give arguments on why they should be added and it's the most important thing you should have mentioned to convince.

Conservation of current system of ranks is a direct path to degradation. Many reaching Legendary rank lose motivation for further useful deeds.

People need in development

A long time ago Legendary rank sounded proud and divine. But now Legendary rank means nothing. Some farmers pump this rank in a short time. This rank has turned into something like a Newbie

What degradation? Just because some members have the legendary rank doesn't mean they have more deeds than a newbie, junior, or another member.
We shouldn't give a fuck to the ranks because they don't mean much other than a member is a long time user (or not)

It's just a discussion platform to talk with like-minded people. We don't come here to show who has the biggest cock. I don't think I have to do more than others, we all have to be considered at the same level, no matter the rank.

Some farmers pump this rank in a short time

I see what you mean, but don't worry, members are not blind, even if they're silent

[Bitcoin SV]

Proposal updated

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[libert19]

^ at least rank was making sense, why would you want to separate staff and mods?

[Maestro75]

What degradation? Just because some members have the legendary rank doesn't mean they have more deeds than a newbie, junior, or another member.
We shouldn't give a fuck to the ranks because they don't mean much other than a member is a long time user (or not)

You put is nicely but I do not think alot of people will agree with you as they see the difference in ranks to mean superiority and intelligence. Even signature campaigns make that statement. If not, there will not be difference in payments. Campaigns will not pay someone in my rank the same thing as legendary members eventhough I have been long here in the forum before them.

[Jet Cash]

My comment was serious. Obviously it would be optional  and many members have a Bitcoin address in their profiles or signatures, so privacy is not really an issue.

[Shamm]

Proposal updated

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In my own perspective. Must be better if the next color of the half gold and silver coin must be full silver and it's very nice to view, color gold next on half is very redundant, I think that if we have a new coin badge under the staff and moderators names we must choose a other color of the coins or it may silver coins until in the end.

Just a suggestion for these proposals.

[Peanutswar]

IMHO we dont need to add another title for the ranks because its already good enough, better not having like super legendary can be adjusted to like tier, for example

Code:

3 Tier for FM
FM I
FM II
FM III

4 Tier for SR
SR I
SR II
SR III
SR IV

5 Tier for Hero/Legendary
Hero/Legendary I
Hero/Legendary II
Hero/Legendary III
Hero/Legendary IV
Hero/Legendary V

Or just adding a token symbol for the additional ranks i guess make more simple too.

[Pmalek]

Why stop there? Why not introduce Semi-Newbie > Newbie > Uber-Newbie and apply that to all ranks.
The suggestion doesn't improve the forum at all, so the chances that theymos introduces these new ranks are slim to none.

Instead of introducing new ranks, I would recommend more merit requirement per rank. Well it's not to make the process harder to rank up but to make it more precise. I mean 100 merit for Full Member really sounds too low and so does the above ranks.

However you justify it, the end result will be that it will become harder to rank up. I don't like it. It's better if it stays the way it is. The requirements that you had to fulfill should be the same as those that new members have to respect when they join in my opinion. 

[Rikafip]

Instead of introducing new ranks, I would recommend more merit requirement per rank. Well it's not to make the process harder to rank up but to make it more precise. I mean 100 merit for Full Member really sounds too low and so does the above ranks.

Another bad suggestion that was shared many times before in the pas as its not like we have bunch of quality new users that are ranking up very fast. On the contrary, situation is completely different and it's not an easy task for an average member to reach Full Member, let alone Legendary.

Keep in mind that one of the main purposes of merit system is to simply prevent spammers and shitposters ever reaching higher ranks and not to make it very hard for decent members to rank up.

[Bitcoin SV]

Even altcointalks has more ranks


https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=183665.0

[Rikafip]

Even altcointalks has more ranks

That's just another proof that bitcointalk doesn't need more ranks in order to be successful.

Looking now at their ranks and on top of totally overdoing it, some of their rank don't even make much sense. Take for example "Padawan" rank which is the 2nd highest rank on altcointalk. That word comes from Star Wars universe and generally means apprentice, begginer, someone who just started learning while for them that's one of the highest possible ranks. If anything, that should be one of the lowest ranks.

[kawetsriyanto]

Even altcointalks has more ranks

Why we should compare Bitcointalk and Altcoinstalks? Do you think our forum policy must follow Altcoinstalks policy? Anyway, having many ranks doesn't make Altcoinstalks forum better than Bitcointalk. To be honest, I don't see any advantages to having the Mythical and Padawan ranks. That only makes a more complicated rank system on the forum. So, why we must follow it?

Mate, if we want to appreciate those people who have dedicated their efforts and time here, doesn't mean should grant them with new higher ranks in this forum. Admin can choose other ways that can be more efficient than creating new ranks. For example, by making a different color on their tags. That is simpler and easier, isn't it?

[Bitcoin SV]

Even altcointalks has more ranks

Why we should compare Bitcointalk and Altcoinstalks? Do you think our forum policy must follow Altcoinstalks policy? Anyway, having many ranks doesn't make Altcoinstalks forum better than Bitcointalk. To be honest, I don't see any advantages to having the Mythical and Padawan ranks. That only makes a more complicated rank system on the forum. So, why we must follow it?

Current ending Legendary rank - is a dead end

Superhumans with more than 10,000 activity/merits will soon appear. Are you going to ignore them?

It's time to stop thinking in obsolete patterns

[Pmalek]

Superhumans with more than 10,000 activity/merits will soon appear. Are you going to ignore them?

But where does it end? Someone will have 10.000 activity points tomorrow, and they get a higher rank than Legendary. What happens when someone gets 20.000 activity points, or 30.000 if anyone ever gets to that? Will theymos continue creating new ranks for each significant milestone or do we stop somewhere?
It's just new badges and glitter, it doesn't make the forum better in any way.

[Lafu]

Current ending Legendary rank - is a dead end

Why is it a dead end ?
The most of the Users dosnt get to that Rank and dont care about it .
I guess it makes no sense to add a new or more Ranks , for sure it can be some encourage for a few but not for all.
We still waiting for the badges from theymos and i think we will not get new Ranks in the next years.

It's time to stop thinking in obsolete patterns

Then you should start with yourself.