Does Loyce, Bpip & Ninjastic collecting IP-data of visitors?

[Bitcoin SV]

Does Loyce, Bpip & Ninjastic collecting IP-data of visitors?

• loyce.club
• bpip.org
• ninjastic.space

If so, then the safety of bitcointalk users is under big menace

If you know any other bitcointalk-associated services - add here for consideration

[o_e_l_e_o]

News flash: Every website you have ever visited is doing a lot more spying and privacy invasion than just looking at your IP address.

Use Tor.

[TryNinja]

I don't store any IP or data that can identify users for the ninjastic.space website. But you can't know that, so do what o_e_l_e_o said.

[Bitcoin SV]

I consider that on these sites should be a warning of big large words, which indicates whether IP addresses are collected or not

• loyce.club
• bpip.org
• ninjastic.space

This is important for bitcointalk- and crypto- community. Otherwise, all this talk about decentralization and anonymity is complete nonsense.

[logfiles]

If so, then the safety of bitcointalk users is under big menace

If they do, so does Bitcointalk.org, or you needed to be reminded?

and https://bpip.org/privacy.aspx

So, again... What's your point?

Otherwise, all this talk about decentralization and anonymity is complete nonsense.

It's complete nonsense if your lazy ass can't download Tor browser or use a good VPN to mask your online identity. Not the other way round.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This is important for bitcointalk- and crypto- community. Otherwise, all this talk about decentralization and anonymity is complete nonsense.

I'd like to point out that nothing is as black and white in crypto as you're implying it should be, and that goes for both decentralization and anonymity.  Hell, if you want to be completely anonymous with your dabbling in crypto you'd stay off of forums and related sites altogether and not risk possibly exposing your IP address to any of them.

I'm not sure what IP address tracking and decentralization have to do with one another, by the way.  If BPIP or any of the other sites did keep a record of such, what does that centralize exactly?  And I've said this numerous times before, "decentralization" has become a sort of buzzword for a kind of idyllic state of being, but it's nothing of the sort.  Some systems work better when they're centralized, some when they're decentralized....and as far as LoyceV or anyone else knowing what your IP is, the term just doesn't apply.  Unless you can explain how it does, of course.

[suchmoon]

Obviously I can see everyone's IP address in my hollowed-out volcano lair. For example korner's IP is 127.0.0.1 and the Queen of England has the same address so take it for what you will.

[Bitcoin SV]

https://bpip.org/privacy.aspx

Okay

I don't store any IP or data that can identify users for the ninjastic.space website.

Okay


Waiting for Loycev's reply

[examplens]

Waiting for Loycev's reply

I saw LoyceV in the local store selling IP addresses, collected from the Bitcointalk forum. I told him, don't do this, someone will raise that question but he just ignored it.

[LoyceV]

I use Apache with default log settings. That means it stores traffic data. I can access it and so can my webhost. I have better things to do than look at log files and start guessing who the IP-address belongs to.

Logs can come in handy though, for instance when some very agressive scraper was using thousands of different IPs, which caused a high server load. But that instance lead me to ban innocent IPs too, so it didn't really work.

By all means:

Use Tor.

I set no limitations. Not even a captcha.

[Bitcoin SV]

I use Apache with default log settings. That means it stores traffic data. I can access it and so can my webhost. I have better things to do than look at log files and start guessing who the IP-address belongs to.

Logs can come in handy though, for instance when some very agressive scraper was using thousands of different IPs, which caused a high server load. But that instance lead me to ban innocent IPs too, so it didn't really work.

Okay. You give an impression of a decent person. Thanks you for the honest answer.

[MCVXYZ]

News flash: Every website you have ever visited is doing a lot more spying and privacy invasion than just looking at your IP address.

Use Tor.

I see reviews about Tor, Someone said: ,,Tor secretly routes your system's Internet traffic over several places on the Internet, thus hiding the real source of the communication, and securing your personal identity. Tor itself can't guarantee your privacy and security if you're not concerned enough.'' Is this safe to use based on your experience?

[logfiles]

I see reviews about Tor, Someone said: ,,Tor secretly routes your system's Internet traffic over several places on the Internet, thus hiding the real source of the communication, and securing your personal identity. Tor itself can't guarantee your privacy and security if you're not concerned enough.'' Is this safe to use based on your experience?

Maybe you should read through the whole "review" rather than just quote out the part that excites your eyes.

Let me help you with the link The Do’s and Don’ts of Tor Network
You are welcome 

[Quickseller]

I consider that on these sites should be a warning of big large words, which indicates whether IP addresses are collected or not

It is not possible to know with certainty if any of these sites are collecting personal information. You should assume that the operators are collecting information on their users.

[DooMAD]

If so, then the safety of bitcointalk users is under big menace

Something tells me you're less concerned about the safety of other users and more scared that someone might uncover the evidence they need to have your myriad sockpuppet accounts nuked for ban-evasion.

[Bitcoin SV]

If so, then the safety of bitcointalk users is under big menace

Something tells me you're less concerned about the safety of other users...

You're wrong.
I want to be an useful bitcointalk member.

friendly BSV ecosystem should be integrated to bitcointalk

[DooMAD]

friendly BSV ecosystem should be integrated to bitcointalk

You'd have to be delusional to think there is even a chance of that.

There's nothing friendly about it.  BSV is a hostile entity.  As are you.

[actmyname]

I see reviews about Tor, Someone said: ,,Tor secretly routes your system's Internet traffic over several places on the Internet, thus hiding the real source of the communication, and securing your personal identity. Tor itself can't guarantee your privacy and security if you're not concerned enough.'' Is this safe to use based on your experience?

Can't guarantee your security, for instance if you decide to log into your favorite Facebook account and start surfing the web with your myriad email accounts and interlinked services. Even if some new IP "***.***.*.**" or fingerprint A is unknown at the start, if they start doing things that link them to you... should go read into the help guide.I see no point of this thread. Whether these entities answer in one way or not, their recognition of the affirmative is not evidence thereof.

At the end of the day, you're trusting the words and intentions of others: if you aren't comfortable with that, use any sort of mechanism you have to for obfuscation. There are ways.

[Bitcoin SV]

friendly BSV ecosystem should be integrated to bitcointalk

You'd have to be delusional to think there is even a chance of that.

There's nothing friendly about it.  BSV is a hostile entity.  As are you.

No, you wrong. BSV is an integral part of total crypto- ecosystem

I see no point of this thread.

This is not for you to judge, but for the consensus of the majority

Because if FBI take by the gills admins of these log servers - safety of users will be in big danger

[LoyceV]

Because if FBI take by the gills admins of these log servers

You know all the FBI has to do is ask Cloudflare, right? They know much more about Bitcointalk users than any third-party website.

safety of users will be in big danger

If your safety depends on logging on websites you visit, it's already too late for you.