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March 04, 2022, 03:09:34 PM
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So they want to create and start spreading NFTs in exchange for donations? Just to get the attention of donors I think this move is pretty crazy. I think they have initiated their own future political collapse without clashing with any country. On the other hand, NFT is still much debated because it has the potential to be used as a mediation in dirty politics.

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March 04, 2022, 03:17:16 PM
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It's sad to see some youtubers and even those who are frustrated have failed to understand the meaning of donations they were donating for a noble cause to help the invaded nation to survive and Ukrainian government might have planned for airdrop as a return gesture but due to overwhelming response or other priorities they might have not been able to fulfill the same since they got much bigger problem to deal with at their doorstep as Russians are barraging on them from various front.

It's not right to expect something profitable out of fund which has been given as donation.









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March 05, 2022, 03:36:48 AM
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Rug pull is when you ask people to invest they are asking for donation in the first place they launch an airdrop to thank those who donate in fact they can do away with the airdrop and they will still receive a lot of funds if you are an investor and you think it's a rug pull it's on you if you think you have been scammed you have the wrong thinking why not think it's for the good of a country battered by series of aggression.

Exactly, people nowadays are always thinking of crypto as a quick place to become rich overnight even they see donation as a chance to enrich them.
People with basic logic should understand this, they are asking for donations because they are in a war. How the hell does they see it as investment and expect something in return, they might have a plan to drop the airdrop but it is not their obligation to do that, they wanted to do it because they want to express their thanks for helping them. So when they decided to not do it, we should not be angry and tell people they had rug pulled us which is wrong.

Come on man, this way of thinking is wrong.

I don't fault with Ukraine ask how many time donation trough cryptocurrency but I looks disagree with their way why asking donation on cryptocurrency but they ask to exchange platform banned all Russian user. Looks not fair with them although respect and try tp give donation but never ask about banned Russian cryptocurrency user, maybe have some user from Russian make donation to Ukraine and not logic ask help to other but try to banned who have helped them.
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March 05, 2022, 04:19:01 AM
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Why are you saying this as a rug pull? This is a donation mate and hoping to get NFTs from there was a bonus and if you are the real donators and you will not expect something from what you have been donated. Calling this as a rugpull didn't fit with the fact if ukraine was looking for the donation but he was thinking NFT as a payback or award to the donators.
It sounds weird if i heard that there was a youtuber that called this as a rug pull when this is about people donated to the ukraine to be able to keep itself from the rusia attack.
I think that this is not good to call that as a rug pull.

But I am confused why the NFT is given to donors as a reward,
even though some of them donate really out of concern for the citizens and the ukraine state itself.
Some people have told me that this is their way of attracting sympathy to get more donations, I don't know if this is the truth because there is no real proof about it.
The thing I also think about is why they canceled the airdrop, instead they focused on distributing NFT to donors as a reward.
I know it's not good to talk about the problems of other people's countries, I'm only concerned about their citizens who really don't want to be involved in war,
 even I think the airdrop will be distributed to them soon.

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March 05, 2022, 12:17:24 PM
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I hate it when people do not keep to their promises. If they'd promised their state owned token, then that is what they should be airdropping, not NFTs. No matter what their reasons are, it is totally unacceptable.

that's the reason people on Twitter were also screaming rug pull to Ukraine. of course, people will understand that they are under attack and need funds but they just can't just do that. they have to be honest in what they are saying.

i thought this will be the start where countries will really be releasing thier own token. i have it in my crystal ball already that once the state-owned token of Ukraine will be up and distributed many countries will look at it positively.



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March 05, 2022, 12:25:19 PM
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I hate it when people do not keep to their promises. If they'd promised their state owned token, then that is what they should be airdropping, not NFTs. No matter what their reasons are, it is totally unacceptable.

that's the reason people on Twitter were also screaming rug pull to Ukraine. of course, people will understand that they are under attack and need funds but they just can't just do that. they have to be honest in what they are saying.

i thought this will be the start where countries will really be releasing thier own token. i have it in my crystal ball already that once the state-owned token of Ukraine will be up and distributed many countries will look at it positively.

Ukraine is in the tight spot and they are looking for ways where to get funding and all. Don't expect too much from the airdrop because it can easily go sideways as the development of their own token is not a priority right now. Their utmost attention is how to survive in this war and how to fight Putin. So if you are going to participate in this airdrop, expect nothing in return. Just treat it as your help to Ukraine. We can't expect them to think clearly in the middle of this war.
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March 05, 2022, 12:44:03 PM
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I hate it when people do not keep to their promises. If they'd promised their state owned token, then that is what they should be airdropping, not NFTs. No matter what their reasons are, it is totally unacceptable.

that's the reason people on Twitter were also screaming rug pull to Ukraine. of course, people will understand that they are under attack and need funds but they just can't just do that. they have to be honest in what they are saying.

i thought this will be the start where countries will really be releasing thier own token. i have it in my crystal ball already that once the state-owned token of Ukraine will be up and distributed many countries will look at it positively.

Ukraine is in the tight spot and they are looking for ways where to get funding and all. Don't expect too much from the airdrop because it can easily go sideways as the development of their own token is not a priority right now. Their utmost attention is how to survive in this war and how to fight Putin. So if you are going to participate in this airdrop, expect nothing in return. Just treat it as your help to Ukraine. We can't expect them to think clearly in the middle of this war.

People should not be too hard on Ukraine they are losing their people and their properties and their cities are under devastation stop blaming and accusing Ukraine of rug pull we should in fact do our share to help the Ukrainian people treat your donation as a donation, not as an investment, don't think to make profit from this war and from what's happening to Ukraine.
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March 05, 2022, 01:40:46 PM
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Rug pull? Its far from that.

We've seen people donating Bitcoin, Ethereum, Tether and even DOGE to their address and they successfully donated much that will help the country.
There is somebody who also made a Ukraine flag NFT and they bought it and the money went from the government.

This is the short definition of a rugpull base on Coinmarketcap. LINK
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A rug pull is a malicious maneuver in the cryptocurrency industry where crypto developers abandon a project and run away with investors’ funds

I didn't see any developers here nor a project and no run away with investor's funds. Investors and donators donated the money because they want to help and calling it as a rug pull is very irrelevant and out of the topic. Lets just think that all of the money that they got has been given thru initiative and not because they want to invest in a project whatsoever. There is no project here but just a donation and those who want to donate will just donate.

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March 05, 2022, 01:45:04 PM
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i was watching the NLW breakdown today and was amazed to see Ukraine plans to airdrop thier own nation-state token to those who will donate to their war. the funds raised up to $54M based on this article from cnbc and this is after the Ukrainian government announced this airdrop. Mykhailo Fedorov )Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Digital Transformation) the next day tweeted, they are not distributing Ukraine coins but instead NFTS.  https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1499348177002151937

this guy from youtube also talked about his frustration about this rug pull. notice her girl roaming behind him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGwy85r98k

this could have a positive effect on crypto if the country really sends out government-backed tokens. do you think the IMF also advised Fedorov not to pursue this Ukrain coins?  what do you think stopped them from releasing?

Since they are asking for donations (like in any other causes), we don’t expect anything in return especially coins, tokens and NFTs. I don’t call this a rug pull because we are donating for something very important for our brothers and sisters in Ukraine.

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March 05, 2022, 01:56:07 PM
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what do you think stopped them from releasing?
I do not really know, and to be honest it doesn't really matter what or if they are going to send out, it remains a win-win situation for all, except for the fact that this is a war, and sadly people are losing their lives, becoming homeless and quite a lot of things being destroyed. But on the other hand, positively crypto is serving as a means to help Ukraine in this difficult period, and to everyone who has sent something out to them, i must say thank you, secondly, crypto has definitely become more popular cause it is being mentioned in an issue that has attracted the attention of the entire world, i just hope this war comes to an end pretty fast, and if it does, i would not be surprised if crypto turns out to be very popular in Ukraine and other parts of the world, and it is going to be a big step to mass adoption.



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March 05, 2022, 02:18:56 PM
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like a real joke. If you donate, there is no problem. But what does it mean that we will airdrop to donors? So, I think that they have given up the war and pursued commercial activities completely. Frankly, even if I can help in such discourses, it does not come. But it is a fact that the war between Russia and Ukraine has seriously affected the whole world, and if it continues, I think the stock markets will be in a very bad state.
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March 05, 2022, 02:29:25 PM
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It don’t seem as a rug pull . Some People are donating just for the fact that they want to help Ukraine and didn’t expect anything in return. Some don’t have any idea that there is a Airdrop that they can receive. The war is not intended to happen this soon and Ukraine just keep on fighting and finding ways how to win their country. They think also somehow the airdrop can attract more donations that can help them each day since they need it to fight until that the war ends.

That's right when you help those in need you don't expect anything from them rather it is your way of easing their situation since they were suffering. Ukraine is not in the right place to give us something after we help them. they just need to use that money for their needs and didn't need to pay us back in anything. I don't really care if I receive any airdrop after donating or not, what's important is, I did all I can to help them in a way that I know.
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March 05, 2022, 04:38:23 PM
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They not rug me, because i didnt donation. 🤣
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March 05, 2022, 05:05:45 PM
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Ukraine is NOT going to scam anyone, the state authorities don't do things like that in this country. Also, it's not merely 'their war', it's a war for democracy, for the right of a nation to choose its own path. And it's delusional to believe that Putin's going to stop at Ukraine if he indeed manages to move forward, so it's very much the beginning of WW3 right now, but most countries are silently hoping that they'll be left untouched, that they can sit it out. If something's not being issued in time by the Ukrainian state, it's because the war is happening right now, so, you know, a lot of things to do and Ministries can't work properly and do everything on time.

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There's no rug pull and if there's an airdrop, it's just a goodwill that Ukraine has to be done because of the people that loved them and donated in good faith.
I have never expected any return when someone donates and if they've done that, it's only a sign that they're happy and trying to give back to their donators. Whether they make an airdrop or none, people shouldn't be disappointed on what has been decided.

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March 05, 2022, 06:48:50 PM
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I am still a little confuse here, why will people be eager to receive state owned coins over donations? isn't that suppose to be the so-hated cbdc version if the coin will be created and regulated by the state? or where they going to actually create a decentralized coins within a short time frame and in the middle of a crossfire. Huh

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I assume that most people who gave money to Ukraine didn't do it because they assumed they could make money from it. I mean what did they expected, Ukraine to get out of war, give them some tokens and somehow that token to have some worth? Hell in that case NFT is even better, it is like "I helped" badge that you can show around, and the ones who haven't could just buy from you to act as if they did.

I believe that you shouldn't have donated to a nation that is getting bombarded just because you were hoping for profits. Any person that gave money to Ukraine right now with the hopes of making more later on did something unethical and I am happy that Ukraine is not giving them tokens, I also hope they give NOTHING back, this is donation, not investment.

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March 05, 2022, 08:59:46 PM
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I am still a little confuse here, why will people be eager to receive state owned coins over donations? isn't that suppose to be the so-hated cbdc version if the coin will be created and regulated by the state? or where they going to actually create a decentralized coins within a short time frame and in the middle of a crossfire. Huh
They already studying cryptocurrency even before this war started so technically they have the knowledge already and maybe, they already new that war is possible to happen that’s why they quickly adopt cryptocurrency. This is a donation drive, nobody forces you to send money and its all your choice so for me there’s no rug pull here and the main concern here is not about the donation, instead the safety of their own people.
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They don't need to reward those people who donate from them, they are simply giving some and never expecting anything from Ukraine. If they are able to airdrop some coins, it is better to give them to those who are literally in need or might have to keep them as they can use them in the other place.

Hearing some appreciation is enough for me, it was an absolute help that requires nothing to get back. They need support and so people are doing this. Well, everyone who donates is happy to be appreciated.
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March 05, 2022, 11:43:55 PM
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Well done people. People donate and when the party that gets donations didn't give the award for them = rug pull? People are losing their minds. i personally think that if this is how people who donated the money are still hoping to get back a token or something like that they can sell it to the market. They are not rug pulling you but they just wanna try to give feedback for those who have been donated for the ukraine.
I think that you are misunderstanding about that. Do you know what rugpull is? it's not even matching with it.

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